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@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 27 күн бұрын
Shortly after posting this video, then handle on the smoker came off entirely. I'm currently trying to solder it back on.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 24 күн бұрын
Soldering did not work. I am still handleless
@chadsadventures
@chadsadventures 14 күн бұрын
​@@PriTeshlacall ninja they will replace whatever
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 12 күн бұрын
@chadsadventures I should have updated the video description, but I did call and they actually sent me a whole new oven!
@chadsadventures
@chadsadventures 12 күн бұрын
@@PriTeshla really awesome lol they are the best have mine coming Monday...I have a Woodfire grill and love it
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 11 күн бұрын
@chadsadventures nice! I noticed that a lot of the recipes on their site that I’m interested in end up being for the grill.
@gabelastnamechannel8718
@gabelastnamechannel8718 2 ай бұрын
Once you get them repotted and fertilized and happy again, the new buds will be visible to your phone camera!
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 2 ай бұрын
I just repotted them! They seem to be putting out more leaves, I’m impatiently waiting for more blooms now!
@ixibladeixi2639
@ixibladeixi2639 2 ай бұрын
It’s been 5 years now owning S8 and no issues. Perfect coffee machine. I’m gonna wait until they fix the bugs on this one, but definitely getting this for sure due to cold brew. Looks like a great all around coffee machine.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 2 ай бұрын
Do you like the S8? That’s the one I was considering before I bought the Z10, but overall I’m happy with my decision.
@ixibladeixi2639
@ixibladeixi2639 2 ай бұрын
@@PriTeshla I love the S8. It’s bulletproof and easy to maintain. I’ve tried almost every brand of coffee bean, nothing beats Death Wish Dark Roast. Might be too strong to some, but it’s like a match made in heaven with S8. The only thing with the Z10 I wish the water container is not visible from the front, that design looks cheap but I’ll take that anytime for a cold brew option. I still want it lol.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 2 ай бұрын
The nice thing about the water container being easy to see is that it makes it easy to fill too! We never remove it, we just top it off with fresh water as needed. I will have to check out Death Wish, we’re stocked up on Lavazza … probably enough to last the rest of the year!
@ixibladeixi2639
@ixibladeixi2639 2 ай бұрын
@@PriTeshla Glad you have this amazing machine. I just discovered giga 10. Now it’s between this and giga 10 lol. I really like this one tho.
@SaraPurvey
@SaraPurvey 2 ай бұрын
@@ixibladeixi2639where do you purchase this coffee bean? I live strong coffee.
@ravengo6560
@ravengo6560 2 ай бұрын
Do you also clean the silicone milk hose after you make the latte? Or you just keep them with the milk container into the fridge?
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 2 ай бұрын
I keep them on there until the container is empty. At that point I’ll either wash manually using a tiny brush or I’ll use them on the cleaner and let them clean by the solution running through them
@papiwhisperer9275
@papiwhisperer9275 2 ай бұрын
You have to remove the plastic film around the buttons for the air quality sensor to measure correctly ☝️It’s basically covered.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 2 ай бұрын
Don’t worry, the plastic was removed shortly after this video and the purifier has been running flawlessly! The air sensor calls me out sometimes, if I fart too close to it it’ll instantly kick into high speed 😳
@jaydeepzap
@jaydeepzap 3 ай бұрын
What was the 3rd party warranty company you mentioned mate? I couldn't quite catch the name in the video.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 3 ай бұрын
Sorry about that. The company I got my warranty from is Mulberry www.getmulberry.com/
@1978Trevino
@1978Trevino 3 ай бұрын
From the time I unboxed it read 100% and hasn't changed. 🤔
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 3 ай бұрын
Maybe your air is just really clean 😅
@Mydogpenny1970
@Mydogpenny1970 3 ай бұрын
Same with mine and i doubt my air is clean
@craigmines255
@craigmines255 3 ай бұрын
Good jod i can do my stars thank you just pay close attention 😂😂
@zachmasters7397
@zachmasters7397 3 ай бұрын
The CFM rating is what you're supposed to look at, the winix is like 340 cfm's the shark with the supposed 5 year filter not the one had is only 220 at Sam's club and it is 435 cfm's, cfm is how much air it moves, people lie on the box on how many times it can filter a room in ine hour since what was the air quality during their test, i could get a 150 dollar air purifier with 250 cfm and filter a 1000 sqft room 4 times in one hour on max speed if the air quality started off in the upper 90's, shark starts their test with 60% air quality and it takes them an hour to bring the room to 99-100% air quality, the higher the CDR cfm the faster it moves the air, if one air purifier is 250 cfm and another is 430 cfm, the 430 cfm moves the air 60% faster, google the cfm of your new air purifier and cimpar it to the shark.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 3 ай бұрын
I disagree. CFM indicates air movement yes, but doesn’t take into account filter efficiency. If I take out the filter on my Winix it’ll have great air flow, but what’s the point? But I agree they do lie on the box, which was my beef with the Shark. The Winix is AHAM certified to do what it says and uses the standard CADR measurement to determine sqft. The Shark carried no certification of how it determined the cleaning capacity listed on the box, and even then it was listed in a misleading way.
@zachmasters7397
@zachmasters7397 3 ай бұрын
@@PriTeshla Shark air purifiers are all CARB certified ww2.arb.ca.gov/list-carb-certified-air-cleaning-devices
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 3 ай бұрын
Please read that link you posted. Specifically the 2nd paragraph.
@emanuelesteves2818
@emanuelesteves2818 4 ай бұрын
Coming from other machines I don't see the option to chose 8 10 12 16 ounces cup sizes
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 4 ай бұрын
I don’t think you can choose set sizes like that unless you program a drink for each size. But it does make it a bit difficult to figure out how much you’re getting if you’re making a milk drink because that goes by number of seconds of milk and number of seconds of foam instead of ml or oz. I kind of understand why they did that since there’s no good way to know how much milk will come out if you’re not using a specific type of milk.
@wayne7071
@wayne7071 5 ай бұрын
Also a good tip. If you have a small stain. Make sure to clean the whole area as there will be a clear Water mark.
@smoth0p3ratorc5
@smoth0p3ratorc5 5 ай бұрын
You should soak it more. Help the cleaner loosen the stain.
@light-tk3pj
@light-tk3pj 5 ай бұрын
Why exactly are there 2 different cleaners? When you hit spray, it sprays both?
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 5 ай бұрын
Yes, that’s right. The chemicals and water are kept apart and mix in the spray.
@ScottMicale
@ScottMicale 5 ай бұрын
So I have an R/O system as well. JURA I thought told me you can’t use R/O water with this unit. Curious what your thoughts are.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 5 ай бұрын
I've gone back and forth on it but my R/O machine doesn't completely remove everything, I still get a reading on the built-in TDS meter. For me, the biggest thing is that by the time (or if) the R/O water caused damage to the machine, I will have probably saved enough on not buying Jura's water filters that I can just buy the latest machine at the time!
@samp1568
@samp1568 2 ай бұрын
thats interesting whats the rationale for not using r/O water?
@ScottMicale
@ScottMicale 2 ай бұрын
@@samp1568 Not sure but I am using my R/O and so far no issues. I am also using the Jura filter.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 12 күн бұрын
@samp1568 There’s concern that RO water is actually slightly acidic and will leach the metals from the inside of the machine, eventually causing damage.
@ronaldpatton5906
@ronaldpatton5906 5 ай бұрын
Nobody in there right mind is going to pay that much for a bird feeder with a camera.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 5 ай бұрын
I did… wait what are you implying about my state of mind? 😂
@noluck8250
@noluck8250 4 ай бұрын
I did too, sounds like a you problem
@kmarcus5
@kmarcus5 4 ай бұрын
I did! Now if I can stop getting squirrels!
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 12 күн бұрын
Omg right?! I have to refill almost daily because of the fat squirrels eating all the food
@firstlast-pt5pp
@firstlast-pt5pp 5 ай бұрын
audio volume is too low
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 5 ай бұрын
Sorry about that, one of my first vids and still learning the editor programs, thanks for the feedback!
@DiscipleofChrist101
@DiscipleofChrist101 5 ай бұрын
Wait, so you ended up swnding this back and getting a Winix? How are you liking the Winix so far? Is it the same one at Costco? Debating on which to get.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 5 ай бұрын
Yes, that’s right. I sent it back because of its misleading claims on room size. Loving the Winix C909 from Costco, ended up getting two smaller refurbed C545 directly from Winix as well. Kind of annoying to set up the WiFi, but nice to be able to control them and monitor filter and air quality levels from my phone, which the Shark lacked.
@Sevendandra
@Sevendandra 19 күн бұрын
​@PriTeshla does that one have a true hepa filter?
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 12 күн бұрын
Yes, the Winix has a true HEPA!
@user-ym5io2ul1o
@user-ym5io2ul1o 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing the manual
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 5 ай бұрын
No problem!
@Tomek_Zyla
@Tomek_Zyla 5 ай бұрын
My Z10 is loud when I turn it off. I hear that your machine is also as loud as mine. Is it normal?
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 5 ай бұрын
Yup! Normal noises. We just hit 1776 drinks made, and it’s still doing fine.
@samp1568
@samp1568 2 ай бұрын
@@PriTeshlathats a decent amount of drinks! what time frame was that over?
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 12 күн бұрын
@samp1568 that was about a year in. We avg 4 to 5 drinks a day 🫣
@MatthewMcCarty
@MatthewMcCarty 5 ай бұрын
Very helpful. I prefer 140 for my lattes. 150 is what my Oracle Touch runs as standard, but all my coffee nerd friends say about 140 is best for lattes.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 5 ай бұрын
Good to know! Do you think that 133ish is enough?
@MatthewMcCarty
@MatthewMcCarty 5 ай бұрын
So if I make lattes every day, I have to go through that milk cleaning process with the tablets every day? That kinda sucks.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, a bit annoying but we’ve got a routine now. We let it clean at the end of the night and worry about dumping the pucks and drip tray in the morning. We started using Urex brand cleaning liquid and tablets. I compared the ingredients and they are similar to the Jura tabs and they seem to be working just as well at a significantly lower price.
@hotdoggravy
@hotdoggravy 6 ай бұрын
I'm taking mine back too, pos
@user-wx5uz7cg9u
@user-wx5uz7cg9u 6 ай бұрын
Can you please provide the name of the 3rd party with whom you purchased the warranty?
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 6 ай бұрын
Mulberry
@darylfortney8081
@darylfortney8081 6 ай бұрын
Better just to learn how to make real espresso drinks using a real espresso machine
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 6 ай бұрын
Maybe, but ain’t nobody got time for that!
@darylfortney8081
@darylfortney8081 6 ай бұрын
@@PriTeshla managing and cleaning this machine doesn’t look any faster. There’s no special milk cleaning tablets daily procedure or scale buildup on a real machine.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 6 ай бұрын
What about back flushing and cleaning steam wand etc. ? The daily procedure on this is set and forget.
@darylfortney8081
@darylfortney8081 6 ай бұрын
@@PriTeshla don’t need to back flush if you use a puck screen. Steam wand wipe is done while steaming milk takes absolutely no time or supplies.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 6 ай бұрын
Maybe when this thing breaks I’ll look into that then!
@suemc2974
@suemc2974 6 ай бұрын
How do you reset the filter indicator? The instructions included are for the C545 not the C909 😮
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 6 ай бұрын
The filter indicator light itself is a button, just press on it until it resets!
@Miss-Laine
@Miss-Laine 6 ай бұрын
Well! After watching this video I’m no longer interested in purchasing it! You pay so much money and you get crappy customer service? No thank you! Thanks for sharing
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 6 ай бұрын
Definitely understandable! These things are not cheap!
@efulbright6499
@efulbright6499 5 ай бұрын
Purchased mine from Williams Sonoma and they are happy to assist you , but I find it very easy to use and it makes the most delicious Cappucinos and Americanos. It also looks great in the kitchen! Sorry you had a less than stellar experience.
@karcher1991
@karcher1991 6 ай бұрын
hey bud quick question, kinda new to the whole automatic coffee machines, so do u guys just use one type of beans, and that does or expresso/latte and regular coffee? if so then do buy expresso beans or how does work?
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 6 ай бұрын
We use all different kinds of beans. It’s a matter of just finding the right taste that you like and then trying to dial in the settings a bit. We’ve found that we prefer medium roast beans.
@laurasouthard1214
@laurasouthard1214 6 ай бұрын
Do you have to go through that milk cleaning process every time you have a milk based drink?
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 6 ай бұрын
It does a self rinse automatically after 8 minutes, but the full out milk system clean with the chemical is supposed to be done once a day
@billf9847
@billf9847 6 ай бұрын
What model
@billf9847
@billf9847 6 ай бұрын
What model
@randomname9758
@randomname9758 6 ай бұрын
I just got it 2 days ago. Calibration was such a pain in the ass for this light. You're also supposed to do it in the dark or a darker room.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 6 ай бұрын
Hmm I didn’t find the calibration to be too bad, but that may explain why my colors are still a bit off lol! How do you like the light though?
@melissasolorzano2974
@melissasolorzano2974 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your video. Fellow z10 member here. Curious if you kept a setting guide for different beans from Costco. Specifically Costco because we go through a lot of coffee and small bags just wont cut it.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I did not keep a list of the settings, but the only thing I really ever had to change between beans was the grind size; the ideal grind size seems to vary between medium and fine. I think I will start keeping a guide now though, great idea! Btw when you switch to bigger bags, I recommend looking into an Airscape container if you don’t already have something similar.
@808labradors
@808labradors 7 ай бұрын
Bought one of these just a few weeks ago and considering returning it. The milk system doesn't seem to work correctly. Milk doesn't flow smoothly. It sputters and splatters all over the place. Tried check lines for air leaks and everything seems good. Waiting on Jura to respond to our email to address this. If not, we are returning it. Kinda disappointing for the amount of money this machine costs.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's not normal behavior. We see that sometimes with soy milk, but it's not a constant occurance and it's usually just for a couple of seconds. Almost never see sputting when using whole milk. While I hope Jura responds to your email and helps you find a resolution, my experience with their customer service left a lot to be desired.
@TomPattison
@TomPattison 6 ай бұрын
The machine 'squeezes' the milk tube to slow the flow and heat the milk to a higher temp. I can't go above level 7 with oat milk as it is too thick and splutters. Perhaps try lowing the milk temp?
@964964limkyung
@964964limkyung 7 ай бұрын
sounds like this coffee machine has pro and con thing , though looks very interesting machine , sorry
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 7 ай бұрын
Yes, it does have its pros and cons. We use this thing 5 to 8 times a day! The hardest part has been being able to consistently find coffee beans that we like. But would I buy this machine again? I’m not sure. My wife is the main coffee drinker and she sticks to her one drink and does not deviate. I like to try different ones but I mainly stick to my one drink too.
@Maybaby1959
@Maybaby1959 7 ай бұрын
Not that hot
@TomPattison
@TomPattison 8 ай бұрын
This is extremely useful! Thanks so much for taking the time to do this 👍🏻 This machine does seem to be ticking all the boxes!
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 7 ай бұрын
You're very welcome!
@TomPattison
@TomPattison 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Would you say the milk temperature gets hot enough? I know it's a subjective thing but if you pre warm the cup etc, how do you find the milk temp once a drink is prepared? Thank you ☺
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 8 ай бұрын
That’s actually one of the things you can adjust! I’ve turned it down a little bit for my set drinks, but yes I would say the milk definitely gets hot enough. If you’d like I can take a temp reading of the hottest milk setting!
@TomPattison
@TomPattison 8 ай бұрын
@@PriTeshla ah that sounds promising then! If you wouldn’t mind measuring the temperature of the milk at some point, that’d be super helpful. Thanks so much!
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 8 ай бұрын
@tompattison Here you go! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rcWbgKR8qN7FoYk.htmlfeature=shared
@mstoy4xt121
@mstoy4xt121 8 ай бұрын
Salmon shouldn't smell. Have your wife soak it in water with lemon juice about 15 min. before cooking. 😊 My kid loves salmon. I cook it twice a week. No odors.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip! We’ll have to try it next time!
@matth7443
@matth7443 8 ай бұрын
How easy would you say it is to make two milk drinks in succession? That’s the only thing putting me off, not being able to make 2 in together.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 8 ай бұрын
It’s not an issue. That’s what we usually do; my wife will make her soy milk coffee and then she’ll usually make me a whole milk coffee right afterwards. We don’t do a rinse or anything in between, the only time delay is the machine spitting out the coffee puck and reseting itself which is usually less than 20 seconds, and however long it takes for you to place the milk tube into your choice of milk container. Not sure if I answered your question, let me know if you meant something else!
@wendydune18
@wendydune18 8 ай бұрын
I picked one up at Walmart and I'm actually taking it back. The cost of the 2 bottles of solution is a minimum of $32.47 at Walmart. Bissell cleaner is $10. And If you want to rinse, you have to take the blue bottle solution out and fill with water. On mine the nozzle didn't fit to the top for storage. Hopefully you enjoy your unit!
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 8 ай бұрын
I didn’t realize the refills were so expensive! I found the solution didn’t even work that well. I might see if I can just use a different solution. I just did the rinse without removing the blue bottle solution, bit of a waste I guess.
@smoth0p3ratorc5
@smoth0p3ratorc5 5 ай бұрын
Buy the other brand cleaner and use it in this one ......
@AmiraAsmar
@AmiraAsmar 2 ай бұрын
I believe you can use any cleaning solutions
@mage1915
@mage1915 8 ай бұрын
How much did u pay for it tho?
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 8 ай бұрын
$3700 USD. Bought it directly on the Jura website.
@Labios_Rotos
@Labios_Rotos 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Do you know if it can be used with Google Home/Google Assistant?
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 8 ай бұрын
It can! They just added support for Google Assistant. You can fully control it and get statuses like current indoor air quality.
@Labios_Rotos
@Labios_Rotos 8 ай бұрын
@@PriTeshla is that added support something you have to add to existing devices through a firmware update? Or how ?
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 8 ай бұрын
Nope! You just link the Winix app through Google Home by going to add a device and then selecting the “Works with Google” option.
@Platoface
@Platoface 8 ай бұрын
The app is crap. Not that it could be good. You have to be at the machine to put a glass underneath it so why use the app?
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. The app seems like more of a gimmick than anything. The interface of the app has improved since I made this video though... I mostly use the app just to monitor the maintenance statuses.
@Platoface
@Platoface 8 ай бұрын
I have a Jura S8 and love it. It’s 3 years old and has performed flawlessly.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 8 ай бұрын
That's good to hear, gives me some faith in this machine! Do you know if you're supposed to send it in to Jura at some point for like a deep clean/maintenance?
@sn1p3r847
@sn1p3r847 8 ай бұрын
Does it rinse cycle when it gets turned on, or when it gets turned off? Also, can you program it to automatically turn on every day at a certain time?
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 8 ай бұрын
It does a quick rinse when you turn it on and a bit of longer rinse when you turn it off. You cannot program it to turn on at a certain time, but the startup doesn't take very long anyways.
@KeithStrang
@KeithStrang 9 ай бұрын
For me the big pull to this machine is the auto grind size adjustment. Have you found that it is worth it? I mean, if you're going to go automatic, go automatic.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 9 ай бұрын
For sure, that’s what really sold me on it and I love that feature the most. And I agree, I would’ve gone with something much cheaper otherwise, like a Philips. It’s also kinda cool to see the different grinds up close in the pucks it spits out.
@KeithStrang
@KeithStrang 9 ай бұрын
@@PriTeshla Thanks for the feedback. Looks like I'm getting the expensive one!
@mr.g702
@mr.g702 7 ай бұрын
The Z10 is too large for my space and was considering the ENA8. The only thing about the ENA8 is the 10g max instead of the 16g max of the Z10. Would like anyone who has tested both machines to share their thoughts please.
@KeithStrang
@KeithStrang 7 ай бұрын
@@mr.g702 is that the hopper size? I bought the Z10 and have been enjoying it. As long as you put good beans in, the coffee/espresso is delicious! I might have a need to buy the EN8 for a mobile application where I have less space.
@mr.g702
@mr.g702 5 ай бұрын
@@KeithStrang, No, it is not the hopper size but the grinding size per serving.
@gailoakley4010
@gailoakley4010 9 ай бұрын
This is a great review! Just a quick question, do you have to dial this machine in or does the machine do it automatically?
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 9 ай бұрын
It has an automatic adjusting grinder, which was the biggest selling point for me!
@gailoakley4010
@gailoakley4010 9 ай бұрын
@@PriTeshlathis is exactly what I was looking for in an espresso machine! My biggest problem is dialing in! I’m really interested in this machine now. Thank you!
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 9 ай бұрын
Glad I could help! Let me know if you have any other questions or want to see videos of specific things about the machine. I’ve found the default settings to be pretty spot on for my tastes, I haven’t had made any grinding size adjustments!
@gailoakley4010
@gailoakley4010 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much.
@Mountdrago1
@Mountdrago1 9 ай бұрын
Helpful overview of the machine. I notice the towel under the machine on the counter. Do you find it leaks? Is that why the towel is there?
@gailoakley4010
@gailoakley4010 9 ай бұрын
He probably put the towel there so he can slide the machine in and out easily.
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 9 ай бұрын
Towel is just to catch any coffee grounds or liquids as I’m pulling the drip tray out (Also, my wife thinks it looks nicer this way 😂)
@mikelonigro4391
@mikelonigro4391 10 ай бұрын
Does this machine actually make a good espresso shot? My S8 doesn't seem t have the espresso nuances, its more like a strong coffee. Just wondered if the newest/greatest makes it any better?
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 9 ай бұрын
I would say it’s a decent espresso shot, probably not much better than the S8. Although, supposedly they use a pulsed extraction technique that is different in this machine compared to previous. I typically make coffee drinks instead which it has been great for. I’ll post a short of it pulling a shot so you can see the color, creama, etc
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 9 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info8pZU_72sxx8?feature=shared
@mikelonigro4391
@mikelonigro4391 9 ай бұрын
Thanks, They do look good, just haven’t got one that tastes good.
@tokslut
@tokslut 10 ай бұрын
Thanks, you just cost me $200 ;) I went with the Aluminum Black front instead so I don't get your problem. Thanks! se.jura.com/-/media/global/images/home-products/z-line/z10/Z10-Aluminium-Black-EA-15488/image-gallery/Z10_Alu_Black_EA_15488_image2.jpg
@PriTeshla
@PriTeshla 9 ай бұрын
😅 I feel like at this point Jura should be paying me for all the extra money they’re making! If the aluminum black had been an option when I bought my machine I definitely would’ve gone with that!