If this fails I’m modifying some fatcones and canons

That’a a great idea

Your idea that wider trucks are more stable is true. Modern trucks are so inherently stable that you can sacrifice some of that stability for better agility, cornering, and braking force.

@@owencampbell777 I'm about pooping myself at 31mph topped out on my wowgo 3e. It blows my mind how these dudes go 60mph down a hill with a 25 inch wheelbase. I got Paris v3 7 inch RKP trucks 95A double barrel bushings with cup washers and 30 is ALL I want to do. However if I got riptides I'm sure I'd be more confident at 30. You downhill guys are nuts. I just got into skating in general a couple months ago due to falling head over heals in love with E skate.

Incredibly well

I also spent a good hour trying to install my riptide pivots, and had to sand the lip a lil bit lmao

It’s awesome to hear someone with a near identical experience. That’s great

Unfortunately I’m not planning on doing one. I had to give the set back to the owner. I think Downhill254 has a good review of those trucks

Thanks for the affirmation, bro. I’d love to work in product development

You're correct, smaller trucks are less stable. Downhillers used to use really wide trucks to maximize stability. As truck, wheel, and board technology got better, downhill skaters realized that modern gear is so good that you can sacrifice some stability in exchange for better turning, grip, and braking force in slides.

@@owencampbell777 oh that makes sense thank you. And have ever tried translucent bushings? Because i skate thunders and they always have clear bushings and they turn so good, and i also heard jamey foy saying the translucent bushings turn a lot better and i read some coments from people who work with urethane and they said the color effects how the urethane reacts and changes the durometer reading on it and they said when the urethane is slightly translucent it has better properties overall, so have ever tried translucent bushings?

@fyjypko4207 I buy Venom and Riptide bushings, and they don’t make translucent urethane

Thank you! I also like your videos btw :)

I saw that, and I'm considering trying it. My intuition tells me that the walls of the bushing seat do a lot to reduce slop in these trucks. Using a bushing shape that doesn't conform to the bushing seat might make the truck feel more fluid, but at the cost of performance during horizontal loading (sliding, cornering).

Bear could solve all of the conflict and suffering in the world if they release that damn 30 plate

Unfortunately, I see lots of people trying to use the "slalom venom bushing combo" on normal cast trucks. Sometimes I just decide to bite my tongue instead of tell them why the 73/78 - 95/97 bushings don't work on all trucks

I think that dude designs trucks. He should send me a set to review

@@owencampbell777 hmmmm, I'll ask him and see if he has an old set laying around. 🤔

Much appreciated!

I wonder how barrels would feel with the front truck to maybe make it turn a bit more. I know you can put two together and drill through the center to make them fit the trucks

That's great to hear, man. I'm glad you're getting value out of the content. Stoked to have you around

"Flop more than turn" is a great way to describe them

@@owencampbell777 Jonathan Harms deserves the credit for that. Pretty spot on description.

One day I’ll try to gather my thoughts on the subject

Thank you! Whenever I'm reviewing a product that I don't enjoy, I try to be extra thorough so that I can justify the criticism. Sometimes it has the reverse effect and changes my mind. This is not one of those times, lol

The first suggestion might work. I think the second suggestion would throw off the geometry too much

Just my opinion

@@owencampbell777 Hey, your opinion is appreciated. I went in blind when I bought my pair of 130mm's for my landyachtz ripper, as they don't have a lot of reviews. My problem is that the only thing I can compare them with are the 155mm TKP's that came with the ripper. So the only thing I can say is that they're turnier than TKP's, which would be sad otherwise. And that they have some weird overly loud clacking noise when going from side to side sometimes. I wanted a pair of RKP's in ~9inch/155mm for more freeride stuff, and was kind of undecided if I should go for aeon's or something else. So after your review I'm kinda glad I went for Caliber's (that literally arrived during me typing this). So I'll get to see how they compare soon, I suppose. Read a comment by Motion Boardshop that they have a review coming, so it'll be interesting to see what they have to say as well.

@@owencampbell777 hey, apparently my reply got lost in the void. I definitely appreciate your opinion, my reply wasn't sarcastic. I bought the 130mm's and could only compare them to the tkp's they replaced. But by now I can say I think you're completely right.

All my complaints have nothing to do with the width. I’ve skated 3 other trucks at 100mm and have experienced great performance

Hope it helps you make an informed decision!!

​@@owencampbell777Guess you just saved me 170 euros. Now what I need is one cast truck to have a 30 ish degree baseplate so also f*ck me I guess. :(

Use wedged risers!! It’s a cheap way to achieve any angle you want

@@owencampbell777 I just don't want my ride height to be, and I quote (paraphrase maybe), ridiculous. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

LMFAO I forgot I had a dart on that run

@@owencampbell777 fucking beast

🙌 thank you!!

Andy Samberg? That’s a new one!

Blank Checks

I just started riding the yellow 80a, so once I have a few solid sessions on those under my belt I’ll start filming

Yup! Jons design has been awesome