Llandow Sprint 2023 Mini 1360
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@mzaaimabakar243
@mzaaimabakar243 Күн бұрын
Brilliant
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 3 сағат бұрын
Thank you 👍 hope it was of help
@jonkristianstre1073
@jonkristianstre1073 4 күн бұрын
Sadly, this is not unusual her in Norway as well. I`m into restoring Escort Mk2`s, and has seen this before. On a RS2000 I had to rebuild the complete front end, exept the chassisrails. From the bulkhead and rearwards, I discussed with the customer, and we desided to keep it as it was done there.
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 3 сағат бұрын
Oh dear, seems it's more commonplace than thought then 👍
@timdeakin2524
@timdeakin2524 5 күн бұрын
There’s an important lesson to bodyshop owners here. Unless you’re charging £25,000 or £50,000, NEVER help people with their classic cars!
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 5 күн бұрын
I don't think whoever did this "helped" do you ?
@rayshortall588
@rayshortall588 6 күн бұрын
I've come to your channel via Barum Engines. I lick what they do.
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 6 күн бұрын
We like what they do too. Hence the making the journey to see them. Hopefully some of what we do will be of interest. Thanks for jumping aboard 👍
@adee-H1066
@adee-H1066 6 күн бұрын
Same here,I've been following Barum for a long time.looking forward to see this mini build.👍👍😎😎
@rayshortall588
@rayshortall588 6 күн бұрын
They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks. I've done many, many of these in my 50 years in the trade and have never lapped them in, and I give a bit more slack than you have.But I think I'll modify my thinking. I also think that opening up the grease track is a very good idea
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, in my racer I set them slightly slacker than this. Generally moving by hand not using the spanner. Glad you enjoyed the video 👍
@rayshortall588
@rayshortall588 6 күн бұрын
Interesting.
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 6 күн бұрын
Glad you think so 👍👍
@tones61
@tones61 6 күн бұрын
Nice collab guys🚗👌, Both turn out great work 👍
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 6 күн бұрын
Thanks very much 👍
@Oldenglishmini
@Oldenglishmini 6 күн бұрын
The best most useful video on KZfaq I have ever seen - period
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 6 күн бұрын
Wow, thanks! So glad you liked it. If there's anything you can think of that you would like to see in a video, please let us know 👍👍
@Peakwanderer
@Peakwanderer 8 күн бұрын
22:10 Are those Transtec CV joints I spot? I wonder what your thoughts are about those!
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 7 күн бұрын
They are indeed. Excellent joints. Been using them for years, no issues at all.
@Peakwanderer
@Peakwanderer 7 күн бұрын
@@thomasclassicandmodern 😲The ones I got from MED had a lot of rotational play at the drive-flange splines and the end below the end thread was too big a diameter to the point it would have splayed the C-washer out and then meant it would not have been the correct diameter in the drive-flange, and you'd struugle to get the c-washer off anytime in the future. Did the ones you have not have those issues?
@grahamwoodier5066
@grahamwoodier5066 8 күн бұрын
Great video (apart from the sound issue of course). One question though, if the grease groove needs to be wider and deeper why don't the manufacturers do this in the first place? Also, is the shallow groove the main reason why it can be so difficult to force grease into the joints when they are assembled?
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 8 күн бұрын
Thanks, apologies for the sound issue. Hopefully sorted that going forward. I guess it's the same issue with many mass produced parts, things change as they go along and probably easily sorted in the production process alas it's never been fixed. And yes the lack of grease path is indeed why the grease can sometimes be nigh on impossible to force through the joint.
@JeffFollett-un1wu
@JeffFollett-un1wu 9 күн бұрын
Very useful video... thanks
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 9 күн бұрын
Great to hear. Thanks for the feedback
@1983ashleybc
@1983ashleybc 10 күн бұрын
There’s a lot of audio missing from the video? Dunno if that’s intentional?
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 9 күн бұрын
There has been an issue raised with some copyright audio, so the sections that are sped up have lost the audio. Apologies I'm trying to fix it 👍
@andrewatkins3219
@andrewatkins3219 10 күн бұрын
Can’t wait for more episodes…Will help me with my rebuild….. Only disappointment was keep losing the sound ….
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for pointing out I will get onto it.
@SILOZANE
@SILOZANE 10 күн бұрын
Does anybody else lose the sound around 4 minutes to around the 12-minute mark?
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out. I will get looking into that. Apologies
@deancook2377
@deancook2377 11 күн бұрын
Thank you Ross, looking forward to the follow-up videos.
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 11 күн бұрын
They are all scheduled to be out this week 👍
@alexouthwaite3740
@alexouthwaite3740 11 күн бұрын
Ooh..this will be topical! wait for all the comments about it being too tight and dangerous etc!
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 11 күн бұрын
I'd like to hope not but we shall see.
@johncoopermorris
@johncoopermorris 10 күн бұрын
Yes definitely too tight. 😮
@alexouthwaite3740
@alexouthwaite3740 9 күн бұрын
@@thomasclassicandmodern by the way, I don’t consider them to tight, i set them the same as they settle in quickly.
@MegaReddevil71
@MegaReddevil71 14 күн бұрын
Shouldnt get involved with rectifying other peoples work as anything u do on that car becomes yours now opening a tin of worms
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 12 күн бұрын
Not at all, we will always try and help people out if we can. And anything we do is clearly documented.
@chooiseah1377
@chooiseah1377 16 күн бұрын
Good job not cheap😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒Cheap job not good😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍just a Chinese saying
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 12 күн бұрын
Not a saying......more of a fact ha ha
@triumphstu
@triumphstu 19 күн бұрын
This has been ..for a novice like myself..invaluable, the most in depth tutorial out there. Many thanks, excellent stuff!
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 12 күн бұрын
Many thanks for your great feedback, if we've helped you we will call that a huge success. So glad you watched 👍👍
@catnip4885
@catnip4885 Ай бұрын
That is absolutely shocking. This 'restoration specialist' should be named and shamed to prevent others from falling into the same trap.
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern Ай бұрын
I'm sure when we have "rescued" it and it's resolved we will be able to.
@gillianpickles4002
@gillianpickles4002 Ай бұрын
That’s a total Bodge job
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern Ай бұрын
Unfortunately so 👍
@stevensondrake
@stevensondrake Ай бұрын
Why is there a bronze Bush and not a bearing on both sides?
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern Ай бұрын
They were never fitted with bearings both ends. Hence the whole ethos of this video. Returning it to as it should be 👍👍
@stevensondrake
@stevensondrake Ай бұрын
@thomasclassicandmodern yeah I know that but why a bronze Bush and not just two bearings originally? Was it a cost saving thing or some other reason?
@broomad
@broomad Ай бұрын
For a completed restoration, I would be really disappointed if this is what I was presented with - everything about it says lack of attention to detail. The missing protection in those hidden areas especially means that it would start to corrode the minute it was back on the road ☹
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern Ай бұрын
Exactly correct. But we have a plan to rescue it as best as we can 👍
@405_hive
@405_hive 13 күн бұрын
Just like they did originally…..😂
@mohay583
@mohay583 Ай бұрын
You deserve more than 728 subcribers !
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern Ай бұрын
Thank you and we are trying but it's all a bit alien to us how it all works. We will get there 👍👍
@joezanella8949
@joezanella8949 Ай бұрын
A dog with a new coat.
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern Ай бұрын
Indeed
@thomasfarmer9055
@thomasfarmer9055 Ай бұрын
I'm a believer in the saying that people in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones. Before you ask what I know, I've been doing this for 30 plus years, and I've never slagged off others' work. After all, nobody is perfect, and it's always easy to find faults.
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern Ай бұрын
I find it hard to believe that in 30 years in the business you've never seen anything such as this and felt the need to make people aware of it ??
@thomasfarmer9055
@thomasfarmer9055 Ай бұрын
@thomasclassicandmodern never said I've never seen it.. I said I've never slagged off somebody else's work. Karma has a way of getting you. I also said nobody is perfect if you look hard enough you'll find faults in every job. The only person who needs to be told is the customer, and that's if they ask you to look over it... they must of been happy with the job when it was done, or they wouldn't of accepted it and paid for it. You slag the paintwork off yet say you don't do it... you just restore the car. So what's the paintwork if that's not restoring it? Also, what was the budget of the customer? Let's say 5k would you do more work that takes more time which ultimately costs money if you don't get paid for it? Next time, please give a bit more context about the original job, if you don't have that, then stop baiting for clicks. Have a good day. Hopefully, for you, I never come across one of your "restoration " jobs.
@andrewsmith9933
@andrewsmith9933 Ай бұрын
@@thomasfarmer9055 Absolutley spot on, i've been restoring cars for 27 years and have done a lot of minis, the majority of bits hes moaning about are minor items that would be finished off/touched in and rectified as part of final prep. The main question as you have said is how much did the customer pay for the work, if they paid 100K then its not good enough, if it was 5k then they got a bargain. Its all too easy to criticise others but there is only so much money people will pay to have a car like this restored and it looks to me like its been done to a reasonable standard for what it is with some minor work required to finish it off. I would love to have a close look at something the original poster has done, I bet you could rip it to shreds very easily.
@richardsprojects
@richardsprojects 25 күн бұрын
If you are charging for work it should be right , its not up to the next person to sort out you're idleness inability , name and shame
@julianwoodward5360
@julianwoodward5360 Ай бұрын
sounds like a newport accent..greetings from barry island
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern Ай бұрын
Oh my days, is it that obvious 🤣🤣 hope the weathers good in Gavin n Stacey land
@heriotpayne
@heriotpayne Ай бұрын
The point is what did the customer pay for the work done and what would you have charged to do the work to your standards if he only paid a percentage of your price he might have got value for money . Minis rust soon after they left the factory the standard of work you are talking of far better then when it was new . As you say body shops repair cars not create show cars
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern Ай бұрын
Nope, again, it's nothing to do with what he paid. That's a very blinkered response, and I don't really think the value for money statement fits this in any way shape or form. Show cars are a different conversation altogether.
@user-dc3yw5wq4o
@user-dc3yw5wq4o Ай бұрын
To be honest I think you were, if anything less critical about the quality of work than I would have been. Everything you pointed out was justified and it shows your standards are high. It is a shame the owner didn't get the work checked before paying the bill.
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I'll be honest there were many more choice words used on the initial inspection !! It is such a shame but we have a plan to rescue it 👍👍
@rayhall4578
@rayhall4578 Ай бұрын
as a mini owner id be horrified if that was a resto on my car if i paid for it
@andrewohare3628
@andrewohare3628 Ай бұрын
Just started watching your videos , would love a video on brake pipes please
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern Ай бұрын
Welcome and thanks for watching, It is very high up the list so keep an eye out soon 👍
@Wearenotreallyhere
@Wearenotreallyhere Ай бұрын
Minis are particularly notorious for being badly restored and botched by chancers.
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern Ай бұрын
Apparently it's still very prevalent ! Such a shame, but we will rescue it. 👍
@georgeyboyhowe1685
@georgeyboyhowe1685 Ай бұрын
is that a japan import
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern Ай бұрын
Nope, British car this one 👍
@robertelliot9508
@robertelliot9508 Ай бұрын
Sadly,that is the condition of 95% of 'restored' cars for sale in the UK. Collecting Cars auction site is the place to find them.
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern Ай бұрын
And it's very difficult for buyers to sift out the wheat from the chaff sometimes and end up with a horror story
@danstewart8218
@danstewart8218 Ай бұрын
Bodgitt and Scarper...finest Rest or Ration....
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern Ай бұрын
Indeed
@a.c.4732
@a.c.4732 2 ай бұрын
Everyone's Mum does a Sunday Roast slightly differently . You have to specify what YOU want from the outset , in writing , that way if something isn't done ("of merchantable quality" ) , then it goes back till it IS done, and done properly .Verbal agreements are worth nothing after the event.Too much wriggle room . Too much money at stake . Too much stress for all parties . Find out about the firm doing the work well in advance . Look around - nothing beats word of mouth . See their work . Bottom line : this is a Business Transaction . No sentiment ... My verdict ( for what it's worth ) on the above job : Slap dash / insufficient time / care / pride taken in the finished product . Did nobody inspect it before hand-over, even briefly ? ?
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
I guess this is the difficulty, some owners don't have the full skill set to be able to say what is needed, that's up to the repairers "expertise", we always work to a full written plan / outline of work, and usually it only ever increases as you get into it.
@barryelstone2992
@barryelstone2992 Ай бұрын
Hi, I started my apprenticeship in 1973 as a Panel Beater I had my own bodyshop for 5 years until the financial crash late 80s also owned a smart repair company with 6 partners then from 2011 till retiring in 2019 so I think I'm qualified to comment, bodyshop and restoration are two completely different operations, in my opinion your comments are completely justifiable, it was not a thing I did to find fault with other people's work but this mini is poor, poor paintwork little attention to detail when you look at the work involved the final finish is terrible, the amount of work to rectify this mini is immense. You lads who restore are a different breed to crash repair lads. In the 80s and 90s I worked on a lot of minis all the points you shown especially the front wing joints need to be crisp or they look terrible, good luck putting it right and you were correct to make the owner aware.
@NickyB62
@NickyB62 2 ай бұрын
At the end of the day it depends on the budget your customer gave them to work with. I used to sell these Minis when they were new alongside other BL, Austin Rover & Rover vehicles. I still drive one of the very last Rover 75 Tourers & will very soon have to decide to either get some work done to her or move the old girl on. Biggest problem is finding garage's one can trust to do it right 1st time
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
We hear this a lot, and get slightly confused by it, it has nothing to do with the budget the customer has, the work needed is the work needed and the cost of it is the cost of it, if the budget isn't there to do the work fully and correctly it doesn't get done, standards don't lower to fit the budget, we'll certainly not in our workshops. Do it once and do it right.
@chrispenn715
@chrispenn715 2 ай бұрын
Had some work done by Ross on my Rover Mini MPI a few years ago - top job and reasonable prices.
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
Many thanks for the comment. Hope you are keeping well and missing the mini 🤣👍
@chrispenn715
@chrispenn715 Ай бұрын
@@thomasclassicandmodern Cheers Ross - enjoyed my Mini, but ticked off a couple of other cars from my list since 🙂
@martin-jj9pe
@martin-jj9pe 2 ай бұрын
appalling paint job and all the other work I've seen DIY job 100 times better than that
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately that is very much the case.
@rachaelcook4614
@rachaelcook4614 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the run through Ross. Your comment about not getting restoration work done by a body shop has totally landed with me, it makes perfect sense to me now you’ve explained that. I know where I’ll be coming when I need my mini restoration work done. I appreciate your eye for detail and a desire for a job done well.
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the comment and for watching. We will gladly help if we can 👍 and If our shall videos bring some awareness then I'd say the channel is a success. Thank you 👍
@NickGreiner1988
@NickGreiner1988 2 ай бұрын
Alright if you're a millionaire
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
I don't think wether you have money or not that this is acceptable really,
@NickGreiner1988
@NickGreiner1988 2 ай бұрын
@@thomasclassicandmodern you'd hate to see my budget mk1 escort build. I don't take it to events because snobby people scoff at it, I just take it out for a thrash in the forest when I feel like it, beats hearing people complain "you should get it painted" when I say I don't have a spare $10,000 lying around they act surprised.
@kenmcleod8618
@kenmcleod8618 2 ай бұрын
Obviously not a restoration
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
We would agree 👍
@neilwharton720
@neilwharton720 2 ай бұрын
They have definitely had this guys pants down, very poor workmanship back street garage comes to mind!
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
It would appear so I'm afraid
@deanrennie1004
@deanrennie1004 2 ай бұрын
Quite right to point all that bits out, that is very poor work, I’m with you on that one, do it right do it once, that’s why I spend the extra time on my minis to make sure they are right, my first mini I started restoring at 13 which was my first car is in better condition that that, I’m sure you will do your best to put it right or as best as possible without to much work 👍
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
Do it once do it right is a great ethos to follow 👍👍
@scootermanhappyman4043
@scootermanhappyman4043 2 ай бұрын
ok this job mite have been a quick cheap job not a restoration job now look at the job how much would you charge for this work and how much did they pay but i take it your not cheap
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
Hard to say as we can't quote from the original state of the car. But regardless of a it being quick cheap job the extent of the work tells otherwise. And again it's the standards issue: as for me being cheap. Cheap ain't good, good ain't cheap
@aussietruckphotosandmodels8510
@aussietruckphotosandmodels8510 2 ай бұрын
I've worked in truck, car and bike restoration, and race build shops. This kind of stuff happens all the time..Yes there is a big difference between a body shop that's pushing high volume insurance jobs out ever day, and a restoration / race shop that might manage 1 or 2 vehicles a month, with customers that have near limitless budgets. You inevitably work with a customer that don't have much idea about what's achievable for the budget they have to work with. Wires get crossed and everybody falls out. A pro shop that's been building it's name for years gets trashed by a bunch of key board warriors, that don't have any idea what the original brief actually was. Or if there was some kind of misinterpretation between the 2 parties First up, what was the customers brief to the body shop.... Did they say, they want it all mint, never mind the cost; and it has to win at all the shows, if so then there is a problem. If they said they'd like it nice, here's the max price, then the body shop did a good job. There's probably another 20 hours work in getting everything sorted out, if it was done pre prep in the body shop. The boot floor's another issue. as is the door. However there was probably one guy doing the main body in one area and another doing the removable part somewhere else. Chances are they were never married up and checked before they were all painted. But that's how body shops that work on insurance jobs operate. Decals on the side ???? fitment of arches...again, what was the brief. As for cleaning under the bonnet /engine bay, if the customer mentioned to the body shop it was going on to another shop for mechanical resto, they probably thought there's no point charging another hour or so to do work that 'll just get re done. I could go on, but you probably get the idea. If you want a restoration, go to a restoration shop and explain what you want..... If you dent your new Ford go to a body shop...
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
Your closing comment sums it up perfectly 👍👍
@lascm5237
@lascm5237 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately as the old adage goes ‘you get what you pay for’. This would never have been passed by a reputable body shop but would probably have cost honest money to begin with 👍
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
Very good point. Thanks for the feedback 👍👍
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 2 ай бұрын
all valid points , but ,,,, you dont know what the customer actually agreed to , the whole job may have been done down to a tight budget rather than up to a high standard , maybe this is an exceptional job for the price paid ,,, there are two sides to every story.
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
We hear this a lot, however, we would never work down to a budget, and certainly wouldn't lower our standards to meet such a budget, better would be do it over a longer timeframe to achieve a better result.
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 2 ай бұрын
@@thomasclassicandmodern but you didnt do the job , and you were not paying for the job so its really a moot point as to what you would do ,,,, I hear the '' we dont work that way '' a lot too , but the customer while not always being right , is still always the customer .
@mad4mac234
@mad4mac234 2 ай бұрын
Name and Shame
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
I'm afraid we don't know that info yet.
@a.c.4732
@a.c.4732 2 ай бұрын
Stevie Wonder
@thomasmacbride8006
@thomasmacbride8006 2 ай бұрын
Yeah that's shocking mate I restored my mini around seven years ago it was the first car iv ever done did everything myself including bodywork and paint and it still looks like a brand new mini iv allways thought that you can be a great mechanic and a great panel beater painter but if you dont have the eye to know when something looks right then you are going to struggle to do good work
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
Very true. We say it often, these little cars are not hard to work on but they're easy to get wrong.👍
@alexouthwaite3740
@alexouthwaite3740 2 ай бұрын
All valid points, most places have no idea of the standard anymore.
@thomasclassicandmodern
@thomasclassicandmodern 2 ай бұрын
Thank you 👍