Do you think that’ll change for you eventually if mang0 stays active and winning? I respect the retirement but performing post 5gods/slippi era is worth a lot IMO

it was already kinda close when armada retired, then mango kept winning majors for five more years. idk how you can have this perspective anymore man

I respect your persepctives. Here’s why I disagree. I think the fact of “keep playing” does not add GOAT points to Mang0. Although he has won a few majors since Armada’s retirement, he has not dominated the field.

@@oui_chapeau Competing at the highest level for over 15 years straight, winning a major almost every year since 2008 is absolute insanity. It's not "keep playing", it's "keep winning majors". "Keep playing" is how you describe Hungrybox lol This is EASILY the toughest era of Melee, too. Everything should be taken into consideration, not just stats on a website. It's context that you're not adding. And it's context that is needed. Also, I think he has won over 10 majors since Armada retired. It's not just a "few" majors.

@@davedanger4414 This is all true! it’s not nothing. I’m just not putting him over Armada since Armada had such an edge over him and the rest of the field during his career. Almost every statistic are in Armada’s favor. Keep playing at a high level is not a factor strong enough for me to surpass him

Who is the goat to you then?

@@dominiquewoods7761 if it's not mang0, he's probably talking about hbox

​@@dominiquewoods7761Android's brudder

Yeah he is, and Hbox has said it as well

I mean he’s still number 1 factually lol

@@wettuna1769 obviously

That plus his healing pinky he had like a 150% buff this tourney

and on mother's day

Even on birthsday! Remember holiday bash!

and Armada was commentating for that rival buff

​@@yuomovaeh3028was it jusy me or was Armada having a hard time rooting for The Kid?

Wizzy shit

I'm sorry, BOAT?

​@@genericcultist9640 Best of all time. That being said, it takes multiple boats to be equal to an armada

​@@Neonradishexactly, Armada is the BOAT. Cody is an amazing solo Fox tho

@@TMFisms no, an armada needs multiple boats

​@@Neonradish one might say armada BOAT status is. . . Fleet-ing

Definitely with that recovery. Ultimate characters are so awful to try and edgeguard

hmmm

Cringe. Also learn how to spell.

Hey, sheik player here. I think a few things will help you a lot. Short hop needles beat CC or boost grab. Also you should prob be shielding more, Samus' grab is so slow that it's hard to deal with. Just be patient and don't get counterhit trying to extend combos. Hope this helps a bit :) my training partner is a Samus main

@@tetros5265 I have such a hard time at low percents in general. It really feels like needles and grabs are my only real options unless my opponent is in the air. Grabs are great and all but they're so unsafe. I usually end up having to tank some hits just to get some damage before they start tumbling. I also have no idea what to do against shield pressure against someone like Falco. It really feels like I have no option but to keep holding shield. The fact that they can follow anything up with shine makes it seem impossible. Maybe a SH Nair? I'm trying to incorporate it into my gameplay but, to me, it's one of the hardest techs in the game. I have better chance of landing a Samus super wavedash. So I'm kinda SOL.