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@billkonkel6325 Күн бұрын

Rouz Astro makes a passive cooling kit for ZWO uncooled cameras. I got one for my ASI585MC and it keeps it at ambient temperature, which works OK for temperature below 15C.

@julianmatthews3262 14 күн бұрын

Thanks for the review. What length are the M6 bolts needed to secure it, please? Thanks

@longhornastro 15 күн бұрын

Overall good video but in the future I would recommend either removing the window at the bottom right with your video feed or move the tools you are using in pixinsight because your video is covering up some of the options you are selecting. Also having the video window is distracting.

@waynespurling3668 17 күн бұрын

Very good tutorial! Have saved this to floor along with my own data! Thanks 👍

@j.s.3407 17 күн бұрын

So, where are the follow up videos? I'm particularly in seeing how you can screw your coma corrector directly to the focuser drawtube.

@astrotube3967 17 күн бұрын

Hi, sorry never got round to testing it as my mount died shortly after that video and I left the hobby and only just started up again. unfortunately I go on holiday soon and I’m not due for any clear sky before then, so it would be a few weeks before I can test it.

@j.s.3407 13 күн бұрын

I’m really curious where you can buy the threaded adapter needed to screw the coma corrector to the focuser and how much tilt you actually end up with on the telescope. Also am curious if your tube can support the weight of the massive focuser + image train without flexing and causing tilt problems. Have a nice holiday and be sure to post again after you try everything out Thanks

@b70dub 20 күн бұрын

Nice video. However, buyer beware. I ordered a similar mount last year from the only seller (Robert) on Alibaba. I never was able to test the unit out to see how well it performed due to significant quality issues. I tried returning, but the return was denied by the seller. Alibaba then dismissed my return request and prevented me from being able to return it. I ended up having to file a chargeback, and the seller failed to provide a means to return it for 3 months. This caused me to almost lose my chargeback claim and delayed my refund significantly. During this time, i found out that the seller had illegally bypassed customs during shipping, which made the return 10x more difficult. The seller later tried to get me to return it without filing the proper customs documentation or providing insurance. I will never buy from Alibaba or this company again as a result. Its too bad as i really thought the product had potential.

@astrotube3967 20 күн бұрын

Whilst I cannot comment on your supplier, my number 1 golden rule when buying Astro gear is to purchase from a reputable supplier in my own country to avoid such issues in the event you have faulty gear. It's fine to purchase the small cheaper items abroad but not expensive items as you have very little rights when buying from abroad.

@KJRitch 24 күн бұрын

Thanks for testing. I would like to see this mount with a C8 SCT, OAG and main camera, imaging at 1442mm and 2032mm. I would like to see the guiding performance. All reviews of strain waves seem to be refractors.

@andreasreiser314 25 күн бұрын

you can also use a switch that can withstand the switching current of the mount so you can do without the relay

@astrotube3967 25 күн бұрын

Can you share details of the switch you are referring too, as this may simplify the process further.

@julianmatthews3262 29 күн бұрын

Thanks you for this great video tutorial using many of the latest tools. Can I just ask what was your reason for stretching the image with GHS before removing the stars. Other vids I have seen remove the stars before stretching the image, so I am interested in why the difference? Thank you

@astrotube3967 21 күн бұрын

It's just the way I have always done it as if you stretch stars separately then your background levels won't match when you recombine the stars.

@julianmatthews3262 20 күн бұрын

Thanks

@julianmatthews3262 29 күн бұрын

Great idea to stop any damage to the hardware. So how does the set up actually stop the mount from moving when the two magnets come into contact? Is it the power of the magnets together, which I doubt would be stong enough if it crushed a telescope or does it stop the power to the mount? Do you have any wiring diagrams at the other end of the diagram to show how that connects to the solution, please?

@astrotube3967 29 күн бұрын

I take ir you didn't actually watch the video then 😂 all the info you asked for is in the video including the wiring diagram

@julianmatthews3262 21 күн бұрын

@@astrotube3967 Slightly offended by that remark dude, I watched it twice but still had to ask the question. Some viewers rely on tutorials as our knowledge is not too great. I saw the wiring diagram and established that the two magnets are mounted on the mount and when they come together this triggers something to stop the mount progressing passed this point. I take it that it is the relay at the point the magnets come together powers down the mount to stop rotation?

@astrotube3967 21 күн бұрын

Hi Julian, i didn’t mean to offend. I’ve just had about a dozen people messaging me directly asking if I had a wiring diagram and asking for information that was already in the video, so I wrongly assumed you hadn’t watched it, so please accept my apologies.

@julianmatthews3262 20 күн бұрын

No worries, so basically cut the power lead and reattach with the relay in-between?

@astrotube3967 20 күн бұрын

@@julianmatthews3262 Before you cut any wires maybe consider putting the relay board in a little project box, and then putting a female 12v power connector on side of the box and have that wired the 12v input on the relay. Then from the relay output, wire it to a 12v male power tip then test it with a volt meter and then double check you got the polarity the right way round and test it on other 12v devices before plugging into your mount.

@leftoff3rd Ай бұрын

Hello. I am seriously considering by 2000mm HD11 weighing about 16 kg. As I pointed out to someone else, it seems that the HAE69EC with EC installed would be preferable for imaging at 2000mm. Could I get your opinion on this?

@astrotube3967 29 күн бұрын

It’s a hard one to call. I’ve seen a few complaints about the HAE69 having a bit of backlash due to the belt. Obviously the WD-20 is direct drive so has no belts. In terms of the encoder on the RA, it’s alway great to have an encoder as it allows for longer 2-3s guide pulses which help with seeing, but multi star guiding helps with that anyway. For me me I don’t think the extra 40% (2k) price increase is justified. I think it’s a rip off as you can get Renishaw absolute encoders for about 1k, and the EC is not using an absolute encoder.

@cbynum526 Ай бұрын

Surprised the manufactures don't have this already built into the mount. Maybe a later version will in the future.

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

The mount has software software limits as all mounts have - But software limits can fail if the mount crashes or if the user does not set the limits correctly and on the WD-20 forum tere has been at least 1 reported case of a person having their Takahashi crushed. So it's just an extra bit of protection that can be fitted for under £20 that is non-invasive and can be easily removed.

@terjelindstrom3628 Ай бұрын

This is good. Easy to understand even for me in Norway 😊 lots of details. First time I have understood how to get more of the blue region's in my pictures.

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

Thanks very much, glad the video was of some use. If was help, it would be great if you can give the video and thumbs up.

@user-tg5nx3tc4h Ай бұрын

Awesome test. I have an RC truss 10" (19kg total of accessories) and I'm interested in this mount. My RC is 180mm from the dovetail bar to the telescope center and I was wondering if this mount would hold up

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

Your 10” RC should be fine as my 10” newt has a similar distance from the dovetail in terms of the centre of mass. My scope is a very similar weight and probably a similar length, possibly a little longer. I have an 8” RC, but not had a chance to test it yet. Will be interested to see how it handles the longer focal length. That said lukomatic apparently uses a C11 on an AM5 with no issues.

@guidobel4860 Ай бұрын

Hi nice video, which gain did you use? 252 or lower?

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

Just the standard unity gain @ 252

@chamithathukorala1985 Ай бұрын

Sir is this wd 20 is good for c11 for watch mars with 2x or 4x powermates , and imaging too

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

Hi the mount can certainly handle the size and weight of the C11 as it's shorter and lighter than my 10" newt, but i'm not sure how it would handle the long focal length. Once you start getting above 1500-2000mm F/L then i'm not sure a Harmonic mount would be the best option. For Similar money i would be looking at either a CEM70 or an EQ8 as being better options. I see some users with C9.25" have been getting around 0.6" RMS when guiding at the native 2350mm F/L but at 5600mm then i think it would struggle. Imaging at F20 (5600mm) would need a high end mount to get the best results. I'm not a planetary imager, but i know a lot of planetary imager are using high end mounts with encoders. So for visual it would be fine, but for Imaging it wouldn't be my choice, especially not at the focal lengths you want to use.

@ScienceBeCurious Ай бұрын

seems like pretty good guiding for such a large scope

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

I'm hoping that with Multi-star enabled that it might lower it. Still have a bit more testing to do.

@southbronxny5727 Ай бұрын

These new strain wave mounts are incredibly good. With 30lbs, my am5 does .3 on crystal clear nights and .5 on average nights. That mount you have is even better.....enjoy and thanks for sharing.

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

I'm hoping to get the 40lb load of the Quattro down under 0.4 with multi-star guiding and a faster guide rater

@bradashbrook3943 Ай бұрын

Looking at purchasing the WarpAstron (or NYX-101) and I have a 10" newton which is a little under 16kg (I think) with everything. Looks like you have a counterweight attached for 18.5kg, would I need one? Thank you for posting.

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

Hi Brad, technically you don’t need a counterweight, but if you are using on a tripod, then a counterweight is recommended for balance so as not to tip the tripod, however you can just use a tripod hammock instead and fill it with rocks.

@bradashbrook3943 Ай бұрын

@@astrotube3967 hammock sounds good loaded with my EQG counter weights.

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

Yeah it’s also great if you can save a bit of money and reuse kit you already have. I used an old azgti bar and modified an existing iOptron counterweight, so cost me £5 to add my counterweight.

@montanausa329 Ай бұрын

Please tell me the bigger version is named wd-40

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

If they make a bigger mount in the future they might just call it that for fun.

@CuivTheLazyGeek Ай бұрын

Looks amazing! Do you have multi-star guiding off intentionally? You have much better seeing than I do :)

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

Hi Cuiv. No it's an issue with phd2 that I need to look at. If I start phd2 manually then it never works but if I launch guiding via Nina it works perfectly. The option is ticked, so need to do some troubleshooting.

@Earth_Gazing Ай бұрын

Nice to see a live guide graph on it. Thanks for sharing :)

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful, I just wanted to give people a live view so people can make up their own minds about the mounts capabilities.

@llignohj Ай бұрын

Great video shows what is possible

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

Many thanks, yes these new generation of mounts are fantastic. No more fighting backlash 😊

@hael8680 Ай бұрын

Nice but I would have loved to see a guide log analysis.

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

I've only had 2x1h sessions where i was testing different scopes and tweaking settings bit, so not a lot to share at the moment. Once i get a full night of imaging as upload the logs and post a link to them

@VaThor.SkyWatcher Ай бұрын

Many thanks for your very interesting review, which I can sign for 100% 😊 I switched from an unmodified DSLR to the uncooled SV705c and I'm happy with the results. For sure, cooled ones have advantages, but for beginners and/or if you don't want to spend too much money, an uncooled cam can be a reasonable alternative...in my opinion 😉 Greetings from Germany & CS

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

Yeah they really are great little camera. I initially bought it for planetary work but thought I’d give it a try on dos and was very surprised by the results.

@julianmatthews3262 Ай бұрын

Fab review thank you. On watching Cuiv's review of this mount I decided to buy this mount but have not taken possession of it yet. I was just wondering about the onstep software though, as Cuiv mentioned that he had an issue with the meridian flip and the onstep default settings. Did you have the same issue or concern over these settings? I think Cuiv later set the meridian limit East to zero degrees and west to 5 degrees or so. Having had time to use this mount now, are you still happy with it and would you still highly recommend it? Thank you

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

Due to bad weather I’ve only had 1 outing with the mount so still too early to say conclusively bit it was a very good first run. The meridian flip issues has been fixed by latest firmware and works fine. I have tested it a few times. OnStep has a few odd little quirks but nothing to worry about. I’m planned for clear sky tonight so hoping to test with a big heavy load - my 10” Quattro weighing 18kg

@julianmatthews3262 Ай бұрын

@@astrotube3967 Thanks Buddy for a prompt reply. Please keep the follow up tutorials coming, they are of great help to me and others

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

I’m hoping for a clear night tonight to see how well the WD-20 handles a long heavy scope. So if it is clear tonight I’ll hopefully post the results tomorrow

@julianmatthews3262 Ай бұрын

@@astrotube3967 good skills, do you know what the Periodic Error figures are for this mount?

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

@@julianmatthews3262 Honestly not sure but i think it's pretty high around the 20-30 mark, but it's almost irrelevant as the servo motors respond quickly when coupled with the motor encoders.

@IronMan-2024 Ай бұрын

I just started this hobby seriously last year. I bought a small 60mm f/5 astrograph and some small planetary cameras to practice on the Moon and Sun. I took a big plunge and got a nice tracking mount and guiding and auto focusing. I had to learn a lot of things. I live next to Toronto with Bortle 8/9 skies and had few expectations to be able to image anything. I was surprised that I was able to image galaxies using a simple UV IR cut filter. I was quite shocked actually. I think if you are just starting out or have a second scope don’t be afraid to use a small uncooled planetary camera to capture data.

@astrotube3967 Ай бұрын

Hi Ironman, not starting out as I’ve been doing astronomy and imaging for 20 years, but I was always from the ccd world and only this year I thought I would try new cmos camera’s and I’m really impressed by their Quantum efficiency.

@nikaxstrophotography 2 ай бұрын

Too Pricey unfortunately The whole idea of more manufacturers bringing these mounts into the market is to create competition not collusion the price is a joke. It's too expensive for what it is.

@astrotube3967 2 ай бұрын

Yes unfortunately it's an expensive hobby and these mounts are relatively new design concepts so you pay a premium for the convenience of it being very portable and having zero backlash.

@nikaxstrophotography 2 ай бұрын

@@astrotube3967 the componentry is less complex than a GEm mount so...... just because it is new and with all the new players on the market doesn't mean they need to be overpriced and they ARE over priced.

@lastnovicewins 2 ай бұрын

How is the overall Polar Alignment experience? Is there any backlash while doing PA?

@astrotube3967 2 ай бұрын

Hi, The polar alignment is fine, it's pretty much on par with most other mass produced mounts. There is always a bit of slop in the Altitude adjustment but it nothing too bad. I've managed to get my PA down as low as 5" arc-seconds. So i dont think you can really ask much more than that.

@jesuschrist2284 2 ай бұрын

Its seems a cool bit of kit, but £3k could get an am5 tripod and decent scope for same price. Seems very nice though and id love one

@astrotube3967 2 ай бұрын

Yeah it's not cheap but with my small refractor getting down as low as 0.27" certainly made me feel like it was money well spent

@jesuschrist2284 2 ай бұрын

@@astrotube3967 look forward to more videos ty for this one

@Rob_1472 2 ай бұрын

Nice one! I can see Widescreen have the mount on their website

@astrotube3967 2 ай бұрын

I think there are a few UK sellers now. AltairAstro, Widescreen, DarkClearSkies. I got mind from AltairAstro.

@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 ай бұрын

Nice! Good to know I wasn't crazy during my review!

@astrotube3967 2 ай бұрын

Hi Cuiv, you're certainly not crazy. My initial test backs up everything you said, and i bought this mount based on your Video, so many thanks for that. I have to say i was extremely surprised when i regularly saw the mount dropping below 0.30" and was averaging about 0.35. I never dreamt that i would see that level of performance from this type of mount under Bortle 7-8 skies. I'm going to test it with a heavier load this weekend and try my 10" quattro - Will be interesting to see how it handles it, and if i can get it down to 0.6" with a heavy load i will be super happy.

@ScienceBeCurious 2 ай бұрын

please post a video after testing it with the heavier load. i’m planning to buy the mount and use it with my RC 10

@ScienceBeCurious 2 ай бұрын

your review kinda convinced me to buy the mount lol

@astrotube3967 2 ай бұрын

Should get clear sky on Monday so hope to test it with 18kg 10” Newt

@astrotube3967 2 ай бұрын

I can only tell you from my testing with the little 72mm refractor it was amazing. Potentially clear sky on Monday so hope to test the Quattro

@user-zv7qz9bu6t 2 ай бұрын

Great vid. Please follow up about the GPS issue on your next video. Thanks!!

@astrotube3967 2 ай бұрын

Hi, GPS is working perfectly. With the WD-20 and On-Step you seem to need to plug in the hand controller at least 0ne time to pick the gps, then after that it picks up the gps without the hand controller no problems 👍🏻

@miguelmorales9667 2 ай бұрын

Nice video. I plan on purchasing one as soon as they are made available from a distributor here in the US, which won't be long. 👍

@astrotube3967 2 ай бұрын

Hopefully there will be some US distributors soon, as it's a really nice bit of kit. The only bit i dont like is the fact that the mount is completely silent when it slews......It just doesn't feel natural, as i need to keep checking the mount to make sure it's moving as i can't hear it at all. Hopefully in the next few days i'll get some clear skies, so i can do a video on guiding results.

@rogersnee7856 3 жыл бұрын

Many thanks for this informative review, Richard. I was really impressed with the locking wheel, and the possibility of fitting the coma corrector onto the focuser. I run the 254mm f4 CF Quattro and also a 150mm f4 Teleskop Express Photon Newtonian, and have often wondered why locking wheels are not more prevalent. Designing to a budget price, I suspect. Will look into budgeting for this focuser, I think. Thanks again. Roger Snee

@astrotube3967 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Roger, thanks for the feedback. Glad the video was of use. I just wanted to share my thoughts on the focuser as there wasn't much info online. When my Quattro arrives, i'll be posting and a video of the install process and sharing my thoughts - Hopefully that will be in the next 1-2 weeks.

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