It's so hard for me to imagine there was a time when not even the baseline expectations for an expansion campaign could be met. Stuff like a well paced coherent story, actual difficulty in missions, actually impactful cutscenes. This stuff that we take for granted now literally didn't exist before witch queen. Back in shadowkeep and beyond light Bungie strung together a bunch of patrol objectives and 3 or 4 missions and called it a campaign. Those were truly the dark ages and I have no idea how I even tolerated it.

Zavala's character in this expansion is terrible. He gives up to an obvious trap that even HIMSELF knows is a trap by the Witness Completwly abandons what being a "Commander" means by splitting from his fireteam And gets Targe killed for no good reason by going into the Dark alone

Create hazards and plant seeds of doubt even now with final shape the traveler has never given a reason to not trust it. It’s a silent god who wants living things to make their own destiny traveler represents freedom not control like the witness. And again bro the traveler teraformed IO to no longer be an uninhabitable moon same as it did to mercury Venus. Mercury the closets planet to our sun had lush plant life growing so yea IO didn’t become this terrifying moon with volcanoes everywhere

variks is the goat idk what you're talking about i love his munching noises he does randomly like hes feasting on some walnuts or some shit

Shadowkeep might be terrible, but Eris Morn is FREAKY and can get it 👀

Unpopular opinion but as someone who started with forsaken, this campaign wasnt bad, the loot is shit, but the campaign really is a cute monster of the week story that introduces a huge story important character we literally couldnt live without

The traveler itself cause no affect to earths gravity and yes the traveler terraforms planets and I don’t think it has limits as it quite literally gave a tiny little AI robot the ability to bring dead people to life and be able to hold the power of the sun in your hands, the raw power of lighting, and the infinite void of a black hole. So yes IO doesn’t look like it’s real life counter part like ik this is a retrospective but by Far read war of d2 was great if cures of Osiris and warmind had actual been good others would agree

Trash video. Shadowkeep is 100x worse than Beyond Light.

cant wait 4 lightfall

Shadowkeep is more of a snoozefest in my opinion it did absolutely nothing compared to forsaken and the whole campaign can be boiled down to doing bounties instead of an actual story

Im sorry but no, Cayde banter is literally peak bungie writing

This is the most nit pick shit I’ve watched. For god sake I couldn’t make it to the end of the video you cry about the absolute tiniest shit

“I can’t be wrong! Plenty of people in my echo chamber agree with me!”

It's the best dlc hands down

you kinda sound like lightning Mcqueen

12:45 Ether is quite flammable if I recall

It's a shame they spent so much marketing time teasing a pyramid ship army, and getting us hype for a war just for the pyramids to be empty and the campaign to basically have nothing at all with the campaign 😅

The main reason this expansion felt underwhelming was because it was their first expansion without Activision, which was a massive cut in workforce. It's obvious why they couldn't develop everything you mentioned.

Ha ha. Among us

"lightfall is only a few months away and i could not be more excited to play the story for it" Daaaamn feels bad

Idc what anybody says beyond light is peak

When I first played Curse of Osiris I actually didn't mind it. I've been playing the game since D1 released so when I saw two dlcs being released before a big expansion I was expecting House of Wolves quality; a campaign about three missions long, a single strike and a raid/ or arena. To my surprise in curse of osiris we got a story that was longer then House of Wolves, had its own patrol area, two new strikes, and a raid about as long as the original dark below. I was actually pleasantly surprised.

ther raid was sick thi

Beyond Light ❌ Beyond Mid ✅

does anybody know what's the song at 13:45 ?

i love alot of the destiny videos i watch theres always a small subtle kingdom hearts reference 🤣

13:01 I think why that is is because Eramis' character in concept is interesting, but in the context of the goofy and boring story we got she isn't all that interesting of a character, and since the fallen all wear masks, it's really hard to convey to the audience how they might be feeling or emoting without just explicitly telling you. That's why every movement is over acted and over exaggerated.

Naw bro I cant try to defend shadow keep. That shit next level dumpster and I hate thinking about that dry dull moon again. Beyond light wasn’t that bad IMO, was definitely more invested with learning how to control our power and stop Eramis.

"Our Motivation to kill the big bad is '[they] murdered someone important'" I hope to god you bring this back up in TFS; because if we're talking 'wide reaching threat and consequences' oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, I'd consider that an abject failure. Good fan service. Poor villain, threat and resolution. No honestly, think about it from the perspective of 4/5 years. What did they *actually* achieve that we still feel now?

Lol he said the siege pass is good. That's funny

Shadow keep on release, you just had to be there. The pyramid reveal in and of itself was huge.

Lmao, the two ads I had combined were longer than the Eramis fight

Beyond Light is why I never play my other two characters. I don't feel like running the long ass campaign and quests again to unlock Stasis for them.

This DLC screamed limited budget. Especially it being the first DLC after leaving Activision.

The DLC was hollow, short, buggy, and super grindy. Everything was made into a damn quest/bounty. The intro was great but the rest was crap.

Beyond light is up there for me, not because it’s necessarily good, but because it’s nostalgic and kept me company through the initial isolation of the pandemic.

When did owen wilson start reviewing destiny?

"Darkness was mentioned 52 times." The Veil: "Hold my Radial Mast."

I just thought it was lame how the season of undying got the raid

6:00 Didn’t we run multiple Strikes to defend Rasputin’s assets in D1? not just that but also with the clearance of the Vanguard?

I actually loved Beyond Light and the whole finally discovering darkness storyline. Although, Forsaken is by far the best designed content ever by Bungie, even compared to The Final Shape. I say that mostly because of The Last Wish being the best raid in Destiny history still.

This expansion was my introduction to Destiny and it will always hold a discuss place. The story, the location, the characters, enemies, the music. Exploring Europa for hours while learning the mechanics of the game. My first raid.

Postgame carries this expansion tbh Tho about the dark vanguard, IIRC this was the covid year expansion and a lot of content was lost. They had to cut them out mostly and with the lack of time they had to make ghost speak for the dirfter (I think the voice actor was sick and they had no tiem no wait or he was occupied with something else) The mission was still a banger thanks to exactly ghost's impression of drifter but MAN this DLC was really hurt by covid.

it is a war crime they still charge us for it post-sunset

I can definitely see a lot of IHE inspiration for some of the gags and points you made, was that intentional? Great video regardless

I don't think you have some good points and there is some wasted potential they could have some more and that would have been nice but the knife wasn't at Bungies throat yet.

I quit d2 during forsaken came back in splicer I gotta say I enjoyed Europa and beyond light I think you're just over exposed to destiny's grindy repetitive nature having a fresh perspective on it I think beyond light is an awesome dlc and the hate is unjustified.

18:00 those are NOT seconds bro 💀

Didnt shadowkeep droped like 4 years ago, whats the point on making this video lmao

6:12 The Eliksni don't *need* Servitors to generate Ether, but other methods are less efficient due to the scavenger-esque nature that has become of their people. Actually, in terms of story, this is one of the few points I really enjoyed, as we know from Destiny 1 (without delving into lore) that the Eliksni built the Servitors in the shape of the Traveler as a form of reverence. Eramis destroying one in front of her new house with Darkness power is actually a huge message in-world. I think they fumbled the aftermath, not really knowing what to do with Eramis and House Salvation, but in Beyond Light, this actually got me a little hyped.