Hello everyone, first I wanna thank everyone who watched this video! This is by far by best performing video yet and it couldn't be done without all of you watching. Second, I want to thank everyone for all the kind words, it's really encouraging and I'm already seeing if I can feasibly release videos for the rest of the Destiny 2 story content. Third, I want to thank everyone who has provided criticism for my video. I can't be perfect but I try to be as close as I can to get there, and that couldn't be done without pointing out mistakes so I don't make them again. Anyways, once again, thank you everyone for watching and I hope to provide new content soon! NEW EDIT!!! I see a ton of people saying they're excited to see new stuff which is awesome! This video's gotten a ton of attention and I couldn't be more grateful, it honestly doesn't feel real. Anyway if anyone is expecting me to release a video in the next month or two it may be a while. I've seen a ton of people point out that I've missed lore that would've removed some of the criticism from my video, so I'm going to look harder at the lore, and make sure I don't make these mistakes! There's so much shit to look through so it'll take longer but I hope y'all can deal with that if it means a stronger video. Once ago thank you everyone for watching, and liking, and all the comments!

Explaining why the satellites were down at the beginning: one of The Nine disabled them. In short, The Nine are only sentient because of life in Sol. One of the Nine went rogue and decided to bet it all on the Cabal Empire instead of Humanity, not knowing the cabal's plan was to destroy sol. The One was punished for this, having their influence on Sol severely weakened.

The whole sattelites not being there situation was actually explained in some dep lore. The nine blinded all of the vanguard's recon, satelite and radar systems. Can't remember why, but that's that

The one thing most people don’t know is that the speaker DOES get visons and can hear the traveler’s voice thanks to mask he wore, he just lied to mess with Ghaul

ghauls armor is actually genius by design and true to his character, if you read the description of legend of acrius exotic shotgun it's basically a story about Icarus from Greek mythology, ghaul idolized acrius which in turn is what he based his armors design off of because he himself strived to do what acrius in his tale did.

The Red War is the definition of "wasted potential". Like all you do is traverse the old tower, go to a small new area, and you have a cutscene and your already on the main ship. Like it would've been SO COOL if you know, TRAVEL THROUGH THE LAST CITY!!! Defending fellow Guardians, saving citizens, etc you know WHAT A GUARDIAN IS!!! This whole motto of D2 was "what does it mean to be a guardian?" and they THROW IT AWAY 10 minutes later...

Small error at 19:05, Nezarec was a disciple of the Witness, not a lightbearer.

The red war will always have a place in the game to me. Nothing compares to us losing everything we had and having to regain it slowly taking out ghouls highest members till we finally get to face him

19:07 LOL 1. Felwinter wasn't evil, he was apart of the Iron Lords. He broke the rule they had of perma-killing other Risen though. He was actually an Exo body of Rasputin that was resurrected as a Risen (before they were called Guardians). 2. Nezarec wasn't a Guardian, if you did Season of the Plunder, you would know he was an ancient Disciple of the Witness... 3. If you read the lore on Dredgen Yor, you would know there have been some... exaggerations on things when it comes to the Dredgens.

When I clicked on this I was confused by how little people had seen this, and I still am! Thanks for this video and I’ll stick around for the future videos.

I'm someone who loves shitting on destiny quite a lot, but even I am blown away by the sheer amount of pedantry you focus on. Ghaul's armour looks like that because he wants to be a lightwielder, and you focus so much on that it's bizarre.

So I gave it a full watch originally wrote a fairly in-depth critique to this critique, and unfortunately before I realized it I had comment that was so long and I couldn't submit it without giving me a constantly Returned error. (I can try to find a way to link it you in the comments, or make a comment chain to give the whole thing if you so chose.) Because there's a lot of stuff you brought up that I believed should be addressed. So instead here's the more condensed and concise comment: While I think you bring up some fair details and criticisms in regards to the Red War campaign worth bringing up (like the Cayde teleporting thing which I hadn't considered and is a good observation) a lot of the video came off as whinging and nit-picky versus the few things I found substantive or compelling arguments especially regarding Ghaul. *For example:* You complain about how much you hate him without looking into why he's designed that way. In fact, you speak of environmental storytelling, but Ghaul's design being the "Michilan Man-Gundam". Yet his white and gold armor was something gifted to him be Emperor Calus, whom he previously dethroned. It matches the aesthetics of the Leviathan Raid Armor and weapons. The reason he looks the way he does is to convey authority and regality, along tying him back to and foreshadowing Calus. This is just one issue I noticed in regards to your critique of Ghaul. Plus some of the corrections/suggestions you offer we're...I'll be honest, really poor. Like "Humanity could team up with The Hive to fight the Cabal, take back the Light, and then turn on the Hive!" almost made me do a spit-take. Was that suggestion meant to be a joke? Because IMHO that's a far worse writing choice than anything in the Red War campaign. You expect a race who genocided trillions to work with their now depowered foes, to defeat the Cabal from taking The Light, and then expect Guardians to take back the Light before The Hive killed Humanity? Heck, you expect the Hive to even agree to work with the Lightless Guardians and not just murder them outright for multiple obvious reasons. You also bring up the other ways that Light has been drained...not mentioning such methods end up corrupting or turning those who wield into sadistic, murdering psychopaths (see Dredgen Yor). Plus the "BUNGIE YOU'RE SO DUMB" moments felt extremely off-putting and childish, especially when your suggested corrections leave much to be desired. Also you bring up "why didn't Ikora and other Guardians just try to take the Traveler's energy and Light from Io?!" Despite there being a mission on Io not long after that mission, in which Asher tries to just that. Turns out, it doesn't work like it was intended and could detrimentally effect Io (as in turning it from stable and habitable back to the hellscape it was). Which by the way, looks the way it does because the Traveler wasn't finished working on it. It did enough to make stable and habitable, but not enough to make flourishing like Venus or ancient Mercury, hence why it's in that state it's in. That said, I think you definitely have potential despite my thoughts on your critique. You have have a solid footing for foundation, editing, and structure of said review videos. You also clearly put a lot of well-placed effort in this video and given it's nearly 1 hour, I imagine it took a lot of time to make the script for, edit, and so forth. You've also been extremely responsive to feedback and constructive, which I laud you for and hope you continue for this and other endeavors. I hope this smaller version of my critique was helpful even if you end up disagreeing. It'd be up for a civil debate or discussion if you'd like. Maybe there is something I missed.

This is the great retrospective on this franchise. Love to see this continued. Great video, looking forward for your future vids

The whole sacrifice angle is because us guardians, in our previous lives, displayed acts of heroism and sacrifice. That's why the cosmodrome, a place where many people acted in aid and defence, and defiance, for the many more people who tried to escape on the colony ships, is the birthplace of many guardians. My problem is that even if it makes sense that we wouldnt see this information in the main campaign, its so hidden in the lore that only 1000iq people like mynameisbyf and other youtubers of his sort are giving us this information. I agree with you on many points, including the missed opportunities of io, but i wholeheartedly diagree with you saying its hideous. The supervolcano in the dstance, the massive jupiter in the sky, and the abundance of fossils and dead plants all around, hinting at what once was. Considering we can breathe on the moon, i don't think the air on io may actually have been all that purified, it's more likely we just have more of that light magic. Who said the traveler terraformed it for humanity, and not a unique local biosphere? The way the rocks and landforms are shaped too, it does kinda look like cooled and hardened lava, dont you think? I do agree it, along with many other places even now, need more substance and unique gameplay elements, but io is my favourite of the vaulted locations.

I thought at first this would be like gameplay or a documentary or even a retrospective, but got more than I initially thought, great job! Great video. Tip: If this is gonna be a series try changing the name of the vid to be more like "The Red War: A campaign retrospective" and the name of the series be like "From Dusk to Lightfall" to be more clear what your intention is at first glance, that may attract more people to the video!

I would have appreciated some understanding or praise behind certain decisions. Such as showing the Cabal Icon before Ghaul cutscenes. It's easy to see much of Destiny is about iconography and symbols. It's hard to get through this because every second is a criticism and not all of it is constructive

u forgot there is a guardian camp with audio logs of guardians getting killed after losing their light

It’s actually a really good video, great job

Thank you for putting in the time to make a nearly hour long video, take your time making your next 💜

From the point of view of a player who had never played 1 I found the Red War brilliant from A to Z except Nessus, that's why I play the game today but with hindsight I I totally agree on almost everything, I think Bungie should bring back the Red War but in demo form for new players, as it would be a demo veterans might just not install it....

I love long form vids like this as they’re really nice to listen to while I play games

Great video! I really hope to see this series be continued as I am very interested with your thoughts on forsaken.

I hope they bring the red war campaign back. It had a good story and cinematic scenes and soundtracks. Thx man for pushing this content and I’m glad it’s not dead.

I cant tell you put a LOT of effort into this banger video, sub well earned!

the nine hid the ships to help them steal the light, this is pretty well known i thought lol

Bro listening to you at the end talking about how you're excited for lightfalls campaign made me so sad. That comment aged like milk lol.

Awesome vid man! Don't feel pressured to pump out content and take your time this was great!

This video is super high quality. You deserve more subscribers! I'm excited to see what you do next.

You had lots of valid criticism, but throught the middle point of the video it all just became "Bungie bad, Bungie dumb, I know better, this would be better, they should have done like this", it's really easy having the hind sight and speak of a position of disconect from the whole development process of the game. Should have kept it practical and focused, you let your personal grievances take the better of you.

I would love to replay the red war.

This is awesome!!! I love the you man!!!

Found this vid in my recommend and am surprised by how this came to me, but am glad it did since I thoroughly enjoyed it. Let's hope the KZfaq algorithm blesses you on this day!

I really loved the red war it’s an underrated campaign

This video has CRAZY pvp main player vibes

we need this back man i realy enjoyed it seeing again

Tis epic brother.

"lightfall is only a few months away and i could not be more excited to play the story for it" Daaaamn feels bad

Been play8ng destiny ever since alpha and honeatly i lovedddd the red war campaign. It was something diffrent and the soundtrack really played into all the little things that happened

I loved the critiques and analysis you did for the Red War and showing how Bungie missed so many chances to tell a better story or make a a greater campaign, but I felt like the IO section of the video was more of ranting than pointing out flaws in the story. Also, the Traveler is paracausal in nature, literally universe defying and ignoring the laws of reality stuff, (whether realistic or not ( I don't really care)), so IO not being realistic to real life IO seems a little silly. But the critique of IO being a boring destination is true, and the rest of the video was alright as well.

bro how is your channel so good?! you deserve way more subs

14:50 Lore wise, it's been months since you lost your light. Traveling from the Last City, to The Farm, took months. I do not think the game would have been enjoyable for people to do so many missions without the light, would just be practically a normal shooter game.

Nice video would love to see you make more on the following expansions.

great video, love your comedy. looking forward to coming destiny 2 videos. 🙂

really great video detailing the flaws of red war (didn't talk about some bugs but thats fine) and how they can improve on it but this would've been an amazing video if it was released all the way back in the time of red war as they have tried fixed most of the inconsistencies in the game's storytelling (still work to be done but much better than red war), overall the flaws pointed out were the major issues with the game and now its getting better enjoyed the ramble of the flaws and wish for u to continue more ;)

Writing this hardly 20 minutes in, I got into Destiny during the Rise of Iron DLC of D1 and ended up falling for the game. I've played D2 on and off since release and honestly this vid is funny as hell to me and so so accurate to what was going on in the game. I absolutely love the vid so far and I'm so glad for the algorithm for once

Im a fan of the review/Video essay format for Destiny, looking forward to seeing more!

This was a good watch. While you could definitely be harsh at times, you echoed the way I felt back when I played through the initial campaign. Your story and character criticisms were on point. Of course, my opinion on The Red War has definitely softened with time, especially since as you pointed out, Bungie threw it in the trash where it's likely to stay. In some ways it feels like this video is 5 years too late, but it's a blast to the past - not just in the retrospective of the campaign itself, but in holding up a mirror to a lot of my feels from a half decade ago. Good luck in college! While I'd like to see more content from you and you are clearly skilled at it, keep your priorities straight.

Looking forward for your videos on next dlc's.

this video was entertaining as fuck and i would definitely watch reviews of the other d2 campaigns. good shit bro.

the amount of times you groaned fuck was making me uncomfortable 💀

really love your sense of humor

Great video, I hope to see more content.

A truly underrated video

Can we appreciate how badass that warlock looks? Also really really great vid I subbed : )

love that Rhulk montage

The opening portion where you critique the reasoning for why the cabal made through without any trouble. Apparently the Nine cloaked them for some reason so they could make it through

Great Video !!!

I can’t wait to see the next part, can’t wait to see you tear into overwatch!

Well made video very enjoyable

Great Video Man 🤌

man i wish we could play this again...

bro u gave gaul more names than the traveler

please cover all the dlc's i loved this video so much looking back at the old shit was so fun and your commentary was funny as hell

That thumbnail gives me goosebumps lol such a dark age for guardians…

Gabblegoose reference, brutal deconstruction, AND it’s a long form video. 9.5/10

I may have already played the Red War when it was still around before Beyond Light, but I still like to listen and remember the campaign. A lot more memorable start than whatever tf the New Lights have now.

Awesome video man. Given how convoluted the games lore is at this point, I think some of the stuff other people in the comments are complaining about can be forgiven. Outside of that, I completely agree with this video. The last three missions were the only ones that were worth playing imo, outside maybe the first. Can’t wait to see your video on Warmind and Curse of Osiris

Now we wait for curse of Osiris.

the reason io looks so boring is because it was originally planned to be mars. But since they already had mars for the warmind dlc they decided to simply change the colors and call it io. I think there’s also a d1 crucible map that took place in the pyramidion but in mars.

awesome video

The reason we follow the falcon in the beginning is because we saw a falcon in our vision.

Holy moly this is a fantastic video my man! I can only imagine how long it took to piece together an hour of footage with your awesome commentary.. don't let low numbers get to your head, and NEVER stop making vids brotha. ❤

You've got a lot of potential making videos, I feel like in time, you can make some truly great ones. I would just reccomend doing a little more research on the lore before critiquing the story, I know it's really poorly explained for the most part but KNOWING what's going and then critiquing how poorly explained it is would make your critique hold more weight, for example it's completely justified that you didn't know why ghaul looked like that. But I also have to assume that a lot of this video was made during the season of the plunder, which, outright says, not tucked away in a lore tab, but during a cutscene, that nezerac is a Disciple of the Witness and not a guardian. Also perhaps a greater understanding of the world would make your story suggestions a little better? Because while red war is bad, I can't say any of what you offered up as a replacement was better. Anyway, I would love to see you continue this series because in a game like Destiny with so many missed opportunities, Curse of Osiris is a BIGGG missed opportunity, anyway, keep on keeping on.

I personally like how ghaul wrk even tho I agree with you how he should work and the the red legion should be plot out more and extend the lore of the cabal then THEY HAVE NEVER KNOWN LOSS

get this man a *subs*

28:40 The traveler can LITERALLY save planets from the laws of gravity tho. We see it make planets orbiting black holes in the books of sorrow.

I've been playing this game for 8 whole years, this brought back so many memories, thank you so much. I will definitely be sticking around for future videos 😌❤

hello, i´m subscriber nr. 100. i would be interested in a forsaken rant/conclusion video :)

The “best pilot we got” line is a joke my dude

I started playing Destiny in Season 17 when Halo finally shat the bed. I never got to play the Red War and you're the first person to give an objective view of the campaign. Most people view it through rose tinted glasses and say it was great. You bring up some really good points. It's not horrible, but it could've been much better

I would be really interested in a ‘rewriting the red war’ video, but that sounds like a lot of effort.

the should defo relase ghauls armour as ornaments or just seasonal armour or something

Ghaullin but at what cost

I believe why Red War wasn’t the normal Bungie Writing was due to Activisions Involvement. Those guys are greedy and probably had a hand on the story. I’m not fully defending Bungie but we can’t forget about Activision being buddies with Bungie at the moment.

I love the humor and analysis this video offers. You just got a new subscriber. Looking forward to more of your content. Happy new year!

im glad i got destiny 2 for free when forsaken was about to realise i played red war warmind infinite forest and im still going just have over 2,150 hours rn

I miss the old days of getting my ears drums broken and eyes flashbanged by the old d2 intro

This is actually one of the best video game analysis I've seen especially for a game like destiny which I know we have Byf but he doesn't go in-depth on the characters and set pieces of the campaigns them selves and its really impressive that a channel of your size can make such a good video

Itd be so much cooler if ghaul mimicked your guardians abilities. Like you cast golden gun, ghaul casts golden gun. You throw a void grenade, ghaul throws a void grenade. That kind of thing

quick question was this video inspired by i hate everythings video on destiny 2? because this reminds me of that video.

I can definitely see a lot of IHE inspiration for some of the gags and points you made, was that intentional? Great video regardless

33:06- 33:54 . This is the best part of the video 😆

Sitting at around 15~ minutes in as of writing and I understand where some folks are coming from, some of the takes feel a bit overly cynical. Saying "any question i made here won't ever get answered" (paraphrased) or going off on small tangents that end in fuck a lot of the time def comes off poorly for sure, you could also do with doing a bit more research as a good number of questions have been answered. There's critique to be made that answers come slowly or too slow for many people to get invested but that doesn't mean a core question asked in witch queen with "will/can the traveller be corrupted" like the prophecies are telling us in game hasn't been answered. As it has been. Guardians too have been corrupted plenty of times too, there's also the argument of us taking the corrupted shard let us easily use Stasis although that's not explicitly talked about it's been a theory for a while. You have many good points but you could present them so much better so it doesn't turn people away, being overly edgy isn't really all that great for genuine discussions. Either you want to be edgy and comedic or you want to have a pretty serious sit down that's well researched (you could absolutely do better here), I don't think mixing edgy and lore & story really gels together. I'll be interested to see what you do next and how you improve but for now i'll have to digest this in chunks as I absolutely think a retrospective & critique can really work to supplement the lore side of the community and help out newer and returning players get a definitive "ahh, so this is why X event is important" as they experience the story.

nostalgia

I may be wrong about this, however I noticed that you had the Nova Warp super equipped when it wasn’t released until the forsaken DLC.

The traveler itself cause no affect to earths gravity and yes the traveler terraforms planets and I don’t think it has limits as it quite literally gave a tiny little AI robot the ability to bring dead people to life and be able to hold the power of the sun in your hands, the raw power of lighting, and the infinite void of a black hole. So yes IO doesn’t look like it’s real life counter part like ik this is a retrospective but by Far read war of d2 was great if cures of Osiris and warmind had actual been good others would agree

the red war should’ve and destiny as whole should’ve start using the word light bearer for people who have the ability to use the light instead of using guardians for all people who can use the light a long time ago. and also you would call anyone who has the ability to use light and dark abilities who also happens to not align with the city and vanguard values a rouge light bearer example all the dregens some of calus’s shadows. also the game at the time didn’t tell us this at the time but the power of light and dark aren’t necessarily good and evil. for example the ability to use stasis and the new subclass strand are powers that come from the dark while arc,solar and void are power which are gifted from the light. this is why the lucent brood is able to use light powers.

I shrugged off this video initially, as another beating of a long dead horse but I was pleasantly surprised when I finally watched this. Instead of another bland critique of a flawed story we all know of, it was an amusing and genuine good points and a great passion for bungie's work. Please upload more of these!

I know the writing for The Red War is bad, but I have major nostalgia for it anyway. I think it did a better job introducing me to the Destiny universe FAR BETTER than 2014 Vanilla ever could, and it feels natural since I was (and still am) a solo campaign player, it felt immersive to play alone, then canonically after The Last City is retaken and Strikes and Raids were made available, making the socializing in end-game feel like it was a part of the story, but maybe 18-year-old me was overthinking it. Regardless, I payed money for it all back then, if Bungie thinks it threatens the live game, I think they should reconsider making the campaigns all optionally offline (seeing we the players have been paying premium on them, even though I only owned D2 Red War, Forsaken, and now Witch Queen since they don’t plan on deleting that third one)

After all the lore buildup to red war, I was sooo disappointed by it. There was definitely improvement afterward but I’m still left feeling bitter because they did so much better later on.