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@MrCA610
@MrCA610 58 минут бұрын
That is very ugly build
@theretroshooter
@theretroshooter 8 сағат бұрын
Awesome trip!!! How often did you end up sailing compared to motoring on this trip? It looks like there is not much wind in the Med. What did you end up using for fuel while motoring?
@timothybailey8169
@timothybailey8169 10 сағат бұрын
No seasonings? How could that be "really good"😢😅
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 10 сағат бұрын
The seasoning was mixed with butter and packed in under the shell so melted and cooked into the meat while still getting that grill flavour 👌
@margaretabraham2050
@margaretabraham2050 12 сағат бұрын
I live here and this is a first seeing this! That is XXXX jumbo shrimp!
@mrclassic2284
@mrclassic2284 18 сағат бұрын
Incredible build quality failures. No fricking way i would buy a boat from these clowns
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 9 сағат бұрын
Now you know. Wish we did. Let them know if we helped you. :)
@Peo_Sahlin
@Peo_Sahlin Күн бұрын
What did you expect, that it would be both expensive and well built?
@travelsketch
@travelsketch Күн бұрын
ya xD
@user-hu6gi6ge5s
@user-hu6gi6ge5s Күн бұрын
Yup just balance yo heat an yea 😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤😊❤
@user-gq4ch1pd4c
@user-gq4ch1pd4c Күн бұрын
Was considering Leopard ...but after seeing all this and their terrible response I'll look elsewhere.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch Күн бұрын
Please let them know why so they improve if we helped you. :)
@privateparty4900
@privateparty4900 Күн бұрын
The craftsmanship coming out of the factory is obviously bad. It would have been interesting to see the quality of repairs that could have been done by the company if they could have put an entire team on it and not had to work around people trying to live on the boat at the same time. That it takes a lot longer for 2 or 3 people to get through a large project than a team of 6-12 professionals is a foregone conclusion. I suppose it's not a terrible way to build a youtube channel.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch Күн бұрын
You mean like the 7 months the boys were in Cape Town and the factory messed around doing as little as possible arguing about almost everything and being wrong about everything. They had an apartment nearby, the hull was empty, opened the boat by 8am every day but Sunday and left at night after fixing it themselves. We have no trust in the factory because they were mostly useless in their approach to actually fixing the root cause behind problems. They just drag work out and mess around knowing your visa will expire. They had up to ten people working in Trinidad. The absurd and disgraceful amount of collateral damage by itself will take a month or more to repair. The contractors also never own up to ANY damage. You have to catch them. I can imagine the chaos if nobody was watching and they could cover it all up.
@alsmith4631
@alsmith4631 Күн бұрын
Thank you for posting. I feel you are doing something good. All of the problems should come out. Spending your life savings on a product that just doesn’t meet the standard. They should be out of business! At this rate they will go out of business. I was before seeing your posts convinced I was going to buy a a 45. After your nightmare I am skipping this Leopard.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch Күн бұрын
Please let Leopard know so they do better by us if we helped you.
@rasp-re6ny
@rasp-re6ny Күн бұрын
Your videos are so informative, I've learned a lot. The biggest take away is to write into the build contract multiple independent marine surveys during the build and shake down. NFN, but maybe you guys could side hustle as surveyors.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch Күн бұрын
We can quickly find issues on hulls but with no formal qualifications we would likely just be ignored by shipbuilders. Thanks for the support. If they paid us for lost time we wouldn't need a side hustle. :)
@123456bpb
@123456bpb Күн бұрын
Take the money and walk away. Move on, your health is far more important than deserved revenge. The Leopard brand will have an international warning among the Cat community.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch Күн бұрын
I'm not done yet. They haven't increased the offer after costing us an additional year which has been horrible. They don't seem to even want to be reasonable. :(
@user-ej6hc6in9s
@user-ej6hc6in9s Күн бұрын
😊 *Hi Good Day...Neil Didn't Use Coconut Milk & NO Salt Beef Or Pigtails...?!* Looks Great Though...Very Nice...! 🎉
@travelsketch
@travelsketch Күн бұрын
The coconut milk did go in but I was swimming at that point so it wasn't filmed 😅 He made the Callaloo and the South Africans and Aussies aboard took care of the rest of the meat and food it went with which included pork bao buns - it was a random combo that worked so well 👌👌
@user-ej6hc6in9s
@user-ej6hc6in9s Күн бұрын
@@travelsketch *NICE..! VERY NICE..!*
@123456bpb
@123456bpb Күн бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thank you.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch Күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful :)
@123456bpb
@123456bpb Күн бұрын
Thank you for your effort.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch Күн бұрын
Hope we helped you out.
@PanicAttackOshawa
@PanicAttackOshawa Күн бұрын
As a prospective owner I can say that I really feel for you guys. I don't doubt a word or single issue you have outlined over the last one year plus. I too, will never buy a new Leopard. An older one a slim maybe - but there are other options to be explored first. All this that you have put up with is not only an issue of a new boat with a ridiculous amount of issues but is life altering. Don't settle for anything less than you are asking for.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch Күн бұрын
Thank you so much for the support. If we helped you even a little please consider emailing Leopard and telling them to do better by us. This has cost us so much money and opportunity to disclose all this for the better of the majority.
@remeez3169
@remeez3169 Күн бұрын
90% of Trinidad never being or can't afford it. So you make a video 😢
@travelsketch
@travelsketch Күн бұрын
In 2000 foreign yacht owners directly contributed $55 million USD to the Trinidadian economy, largely to local businesses and trades. Today it is less than 10% of that, with owners going to countries like Grenada and Guatemala instead. Do you want videos like this showing that Trinidad has the capacity to lift, store and service these boats in an effort to revive the sector and benefit both islands economies, as many who sail to Trinidad also visit Tobago, or would you rather not promote an industry with huge potential to create new jobs and generate income?
@ducatiparts966
@ducatiparts966 2 күн бұрын
You are going to continue to find problems even after all the ones you have found are fixed. Fixing the current issues may likely take 6-12 more months. At that point you have wasted two or more years of your lives dealing with a boat that frankly is a piece of shit. Get your money back, get paid for your time and go buy a boat and sail away on your adventure. I can not comprehend why you are putting up with this. If you love the boat then go back to leopard and stay there while they build you a new boat and supervise the build so you know corners are not cut. I know you love the boat and I’m not trying to offend you but it’s clear these boats are garbage, it’s not just yours they all suffer from dozens/hundreds of problems. They just hope the problems do not appear until after warranty. I feel bad for you guys that you are doing this instead of sailing. At some point you have to give up and change direction. This will never end.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch Күн бұрын
The boat is nearly fixed. That said the ship builder won't allow us in the factory or work with us in that kind of useful way anyhow. Thanks for the support. The further this goes the better they will do by us. Please share it and all earnings have been donated from this series in advance. They can do better or go broke.
@johnmoss8767
@johnmoss8767 2 күн бұрын
This boat is bigger than a lemon give it back and cut your losses it will be unsellable down the track good luck ❤
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 2 күн бұрын
Like a grapefuit? Thanks for your support, we need all the luck we can get. :)
@jmrheaume1
@jmrheaume1 2 күн бұрын
We were seriously thinking of buying a L45. No more. It is puzzling that a company would treat its customers like this. Also the fact that you are not an isolated case. We will probably buy an older model with the kinks already worked out of it.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 2 күн бұрын
Please let them know so they do better by us. The shipbuilder is the issue. If you understand the dynamic between the builder and broker it makes sense.
@karenriley6121
@karenriley6121 2 күн бұрын
You’ve learnt well therefore you get your Trini pass, welcome to my homeland.❤🇹🇹
@mark95b77
@mark95b77 2 күн бұрын
I feel really bad for you two. I am glad you're documenting this situation and the vessel’s defects. Setting aside the time, frustration and the lack of a through inspection the company has done its self and other Leopard owners a disservice. Please have your vessel independently evaluated paying close attention to possibly structural failures down the road compromising your safety. Bottom line inspect everything and don’t rely on the unvetted or parties that may have their own biases clouding an objective assessment. Identify all the deficiencies and beef up anything that looks or has a history of being weak points. This will serve you well down the road and give you a good look at what’s going on with your boat and hopefully alleviating any surprises in the future.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 2 күн бұрын
Good advice, thank you. We really need a proper high level and honest surveyor to go over it but we have haemorrhaged so much money already :(
@mark95b77
@mark95b77 2 күн бұрын
@@travelsketch I hear you and I know everything I’ve said you’ve already have thought about.. Get some legal advice on how to approach the builder to leverage your position.. Bottom line you want your boat to be safe.. You need an independent third party who’s objective, and who doesn’t have a dog in this fight.
@jmkikkawa
@jmkikkawa 2 күн бұрын
This episode makes a stronger case for accepting a replacement hull regardless of all the 'upgrades' and 'modifications' you showed you've done. The change in factory workmanship over that month between vessels is horrendous.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 2 күн бұрын
We don't trust the factory at all for very good reasons, some which aren't published yet.
@Turaelin
@Turaelin 2 күн бұрын
14:52... you said it as I was thinking it... "You don't buy a new boat..." I would have stopped right there. I am deeply deeply sorry you all are going through this BS. Truly and most sincerely I am... But in my personal life and in my humble opinion, I would NEVER buy a "new" boat regardless of "warranty" claims, all of that "just words"... Insurance companies work insanely hard (and I don't doubt spend more money) to delay, reduce, obfuscate and deny claims than they do on advertising AND executive bonuses put together... A used boat is tested, proven, and most often available for a price less to far less than the price of a new boat of the same make & model. Our boat is a 1995 Gozzard 44 MK1 "A" (yes a monohull, but "boats are boats")... Our Rocinante (Black Beauty then) is #6 of 24, she was 27 years old w/ 2 prior owners the day we bought her and, everything worked... I mean EVERYTHING. Not to even breach the topic of costs. Just one old salt's opinion... We wish you guys the very best. V/R CJ&JD Blackwell SV Rocinante =/|)= currently Hampton, VA
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for the support, we agree and if it hadn't been for lockdown and impending massive inflation we would have bought a second hand boat also.
@Turaelin
@Turaelin 2 күн бұрын
@@travelsketch you do have our support! And please understand, as I said, it's... Just one old salt's opinion... =]
@bigsuperpower
@bigsuperpower 2 күн бұрын
So Love this country and its people , Just wish they deal with the crime in POS
@nexttonic6459
@nexttonic6459 3 күн бұрын
This is why you either have an third party account of verified funds, to be paid out at the completion of the contract, meaning after final survey to accept the build. Or a bank note that you have the funds ready on your account, or approved loan that is verified to be paid out only by the purchaser of the house/boat/etc after the contract has been completed. I don't understand why this isn't the case all around the world.. Like Royal Caribbean's latest ship being build, they don't own it yet and they haven't paid a dime for it yet. In fact various governments are backing the loans for the ship dockyard to build the ship... Only after accepting the ship Royal Caribbean's will pay the dockyard...
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 2 күн бұрын
Really what you need in this time period to buy a yacht is 1. a law degree in the country of business. 2. a degree in shipbuilding or be prepared to pay an expert to do a week long survey before final payment which production ship builders usually won't allow. Paying a lawyer is like rolling a dice.
@GonzoMallorca
@GonzoMallorca 3 күн бұрын
Sell&Run.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 2 күн бұрын
:(
@robertgiffen1876
@robertgiffen1876 3 күн бұрын
just a thought . check your your boat insurance policy . with a bit of luk there mite be insuranc coveage for this sor of stuff ??
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 2 күн бұрын
Nope, thanks for the advice. There are clauses that they don't want to know if the boat is built like crap. They obviously expect it and have had issues.
@wanabesailer9599
@wanabesailer9599 3 күн бұрын
As a South African and someone that used to love Leopard cats, I am appauled by this and their response to everything. If ever I had the money, I will never buy a Leopard after this. Same for Neel trimarans. Sorry for your extremely bad experiance......if I was you, I would report this to the South African consumer ombudsman and demand my money back and go buy a Seawind or Maxx cruise cat.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for the support, I don't think the SA government cares much. We have limited time because they have left us with a lot of problems. Once done here we will see what they do for us.
@gregl7597
@gregl7597 3 күн бұрын
There was NEVER a tropical storm Phillipe in Trinidad!!!
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
The center of Tropical Storm Philippe (Sep 23, 2023 - Oct 8, 2023) passed well north of Trinidad but the atmospheric disturbance still caused a significant amount of wind and rain as seen in the video
@gregl7597
@gregl7597 2 күн бұрын
@@travelsketch This is the US National Hurricane Centre archived report on TS Phillipe. It was nowhere near Trinidad and Tobago. It was thousands of miles away. Perhaps you're confusing it with another system. www.nhc.noaa.gov/data/tcr/AL172023_Philippe.pdf
@gregl7597
@gregl7597 2 күн бұрын
@@travelsketch This was that path of Phillipe, THOUSANDS OF MILES NORTH OF TRINIDAD as seen from US National Hurricane Centre Archives. www.nhc.noaa.gov/data/tcr/AL172023_Philippe.pdf
@gregl7597
@gregl7597 2 күн бұрын
@@travelsketch Because you disagree with me you have been deleting my response??
@gregl7597
@gregl7597 2 күн бұрын
@@travelsketch www.nhc.noaa.gov/data/tcr/AL172023_Philippe.pdf PROOF THAT YOU ARE MISTAKEN
@jayscorpionjba
@jayscorpionjba 3 күн бұрын
Practice makes perfect. Keep at it, and it will taste indistinguishable from our beautiful food here in Trinidad. Next time, roast the Geera in a sauce pan first, and then you can add it into the meat with other seasonings. Roasting should be around 5 minutes.
@inspired_girl_ari7263
@inspired_girl_ari7263 3 күн бұрын
Tanks for bigging us up
@jasonshockwave2732
@jasonshockwave2732 3 күн бұрын
my mouth is watering right now
@usayolo3836
@usayolo3836 3 күн бұрын
Get other KZfaq sailers and Patrons to post your vids. Bankrupt the Fckers…
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 2 күн бұрын
Anyone is welcome to share our channel. We will revisit this if they don't pay their bills for rectification.
@JohnGBeckett
@JohnGBeckett 3 күн бұрын
I want to know what magical "wear and tear" can result in the removal of all resin inside a hull but not affect the paint on the outside.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
The "stop looking for problems" kind of wear and tear.
@donn6783
@donn6783 3 күн бұрын
I have seen several different new catamaran owners with warranty issues . Can’t believe people are still purchasing them. Wish you all the luck in getting Leopard to make the appropriate repairs. Or
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the support :) we need some luck
@SpiralDiving
@SpiralDiving 3 күн бұрын
Breather hose as a return is a bad idea -if the breather hose gets blocked you will dump all your fuel overboard... The return must be t'd into either the engine supply or return
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
This has been modified, will update now.
@svmagnolia
@svmagnolia 3 күн бұрын
Unfortunately it's not just Leopard that seems to have major issues. Your situation bears a strong similarity to that of the owner of a new Neel 47 trimaran a year or so ago. She posted KZfaq videos of her dealings with Neel and the broker while trying to get all of the problems addressed, but eventually took her videos down with no explanation.....
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
They settled with Neel. They were not up for a prolonged altercation. Neel only came to the table AFTER KZfaq. Heros.
@svmagnolia
@svmagnolia 3 күн бұрын
@@travelsketch I figured as much but didn't know for certain. Good luck with your ongoing battle...
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
We need all the luck we can get cheers :)
@richardmondor1360
@richardmondor1360 3 күн бұрын
I would be scared as heck of "what you cannot see" .... if ...."what you can see" is this bad.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
We have checked a lot. We have borescope and have crawled around everywhere. They still haven't finished tap testing.
@arnehaieschild343
@arnehaieschild343 3 күн бұрын
Every episode a further outrageous mess,how they let that boat out is beyond astonishing...
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
It is not right.
@TheLargey72
@TheLargey72 3 күн бұрын
Leopard should give your money back plus reimburse you for your pain and suffering buy a better boat
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
Ya, but then we keep this boat because the boys have helped rebuild it. Thanks for the support :)
@meatmwax
@meatmwax 3 күн бұрын
Who the f*ck signed off on that job? They should be fired. I have all sorts of "solutions" like that on my 440. But it's hull 001. "creative" fixes are expected. Why the sh*t did the quality just suddenly drop mid way into production? And like you said, covid boat is not an excuse since that other boat looks fine. OK, so they can't claim that they didn't know your hull was bad. There were signs. Clearly it came out of the mold shit, and rather than throw out $30k of fiberglass/resin/labor costs they tryed to salvage it. This video just pisses me off. There's no excuses for that sh*t workmanship.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
We feel a similar way. Thanks for the support :)
@robertgranafei2781
@robertgranafei2781 3 күн бұрын
Leopard is owned by one of the largest hedge funds in the world. Profit is there motive not quality. In fact quality impacts profit in a negative way; so why do it? Who is one of the other owners? The Moorings. A group always known for providing a quality experience at an absurd price. Not surprising you are having these issues but they are not restricted to Leopard. Most cats are poorly built and really aren't blue water boats, but floating condos which serve a limited purpose. Can't imagine how you will ever sell that boat but good for you making others aware of the shortcomings of leopard cats.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the support :) If nothing else at least we have done what we wish someone had done before us.
@aytacercen944
@aytacercen944 3 күн бұрын
"Why wasn't all this picked up by Quality Process? " you ask. That is very easy to explain. They have no such process in place. You're welcome.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
Maybe, maybe the answer is worse than this....
@mrclassic2284
@mrclassic2284 18 сағат бұрын
I am guessing the “Quality control process” only exists in their brochures
@bobsch-gd6ze
@bobsch-gd6ze 3 күн бұрын
I'm surprised that there has not been a catastrophic electrical fire... You are very fortunate to not have had such a life threatening event.
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
If they don't pay for the electrical warranty rectification that they committed to pay, you will get to see some very interesting things about this exact subject matter. Keep watching.
@johnnicolson467
@johnnicolson467 3 күн бұрын
Dont buy a leopard
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
Let them know
@claudehopper9813
@claudehopper9813 3 күн бұрын
Looks like the builders QC department needs a sit down with the Production crew . I feel sorry for You having to spend so much time in the boatyard ( typically : a dusty , dirty , noisy place with the smell of chemicals floating around . )
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the support :) Glad you understand.
@martijnvanbeers5036
@martijnvanbeers5036 3 күн бұрын
I feel deeply sorry for you guys, what a nightmare. My conclusions about leopard are : 1) they are very bad boatbuilders...and 2) it is clear that the higher-ups only care about the money. As hard as it is you are doing a very good job and in the end you guys will have the strongest leopard cat there is. We are rooting for you!!
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the support :) hopefully they extend some empathy for the mess they created.
@johancoetzee6815
@johancoetzee6815 3 күн бұрын
For a boat that cost a fortune it a shame
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
Beware hey
@jamesthomas7928
@jamesthomas7928 3 күн бұрын
I am a yachting expert. I've been following this extended moan on Y/T and now agree with -American fiberglass construction expert Ken Fickett who says “Some of what I am seeing is definitely overblown bullshit by the owner. But regardless of that, the boat is seriously fucked up and the factory is in big trouble.” Definately large piles of overblown bullshit to make money out of their channel Having said that this boat is a result of labour issues. I am told that once the locals learn a trade they rush off to get a better paid job and so this manufacturer is using partly or unskilled labour. For the sake of your healt do not buy
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
So you are aware, last year the decision was made to donate the potential proceeds of these warranty videos in advance. $10,000 was given to support the work of Dr Sheddy and her sailing vet clinic, an amount that was decided on to ensure it would far eclipse any potential gain from publishing this information. You can learn more about her work here: www.vettails.com/powered-by
@jamesthomas7928
@jamesthomas7928 3 күн бұрын
@@travelsketch PLEASE Accept my apology for my mistake. I know you must be going through hell and I thought you were monetising it as so often happens today
@travelsketch
@travelsketch 3 күн бұрын
No problem, sometimes you must do what is right. Please also keep in mind that the worst things that were wrong with the boat are not published yet. Obviously KZfaq is not an exact representation of our actual lives and we work very hard to fix the boat and enjoy every day. We are very positive people, it is just impossible to give a perfectly balanced snapshot in a 15 minute video and when we enjoy ourselves in the remaining time the last thing we want to do is work to film it. :) Thanks for watching.