😂 Thanks for sharing. Going to give this a shot with an amethyst facet!
@EroticOnion237 күн бұрын
I also found that fusing is a butt-clencher for sure 😆, though far preferable than using solder and 'contaminating' a pure piece imo!! EDIT: BTW I found that sticking a wad of ceramic-wool through the middle of the ring makes it 'safer' to heat from the outside, gives it support so it doesn't collapse
@mustachemetalworks3 күн бұрын
I'm happy to hear that fusing is universally terrifying. Good trick with the ceramic; do you find that it clings to the metal after melting? I would hate to foul gold for the sake of easy fusing. I would prefer some carbon based material, like a piece of jewlers charcoal cut-to-fit, but thats a pain in the rear-end to manufacture.
@EroticOnion233 күн бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks only time it clings slightly (like literal tiny fibers on the surface) to the gold/silver is when it’s completely melted (or if borax is used, naturally), and is very easily removed as simple as being able to be rubbed off by hand once it cools, or pickling for ~15sec (even including borax). No problem at all if annealing or fusing 👍
@Elites-asthetic16 күн бұрын
What torch do I need to fuse 24k links when making a chain Only 5mm links
@mustachemetalworks13 күн бұрын
Any home Depot plumbing torch will do. Try a pencil tip
@Elites-asthetic13 күн бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks thanks buddy I’ve got a re fill butane but it’s not working for some reason Maybe I need to saw the links Instead of snipping to get more flush I’ve tried it with no dust just heat but won’t work
@mustachemetalworks12 күн бұрын
butane isnt hot enough for gold. you're not going to have any luck no matter how long you try to hold the flame. use a bigger propane torch. Highly recommend the standard $20 plumbing torch. a map gas torch will be too much heat for links.
@Elites-asthetic12 күн бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks thanks mate it’s a little hard here in the uk the map torch is all we have available for a plumbing torch I’ve been told to buy the blazer big shot But again it’s butane but apparently great
@Elites-asthetic10 күн бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks so the blazer does indeed work It works rather good too Refill with butane But I did get a can of mix propane and butane
@kirtandrews185918 күн бұрын
Hi 👋 how many gram to make a 5mm wide size 8 24k gold ring ? I am thinking 3 or 5 gram ?
@mustachemetalworks16 күн бұрын
Perform volumetric analysis for a man, feed him for a day. Teach a man volumetric analysis, feed him for life. Put in your dimensions, convert to volume in cm3, then convert your volume to grams using gold's density. www.omnicalculator.com/math/hollow-cylinder-volume www.aqua-calc.com/page/density-table/substance/gold
@kirtandrews185916 күн бұрын
@mustachemetalworks 0.03tfluid ounces if I have done that correctly. Thanm you for sharing
@kirtandrews185918 күн бұрын
That is frigging awesome I absolutely love it. I had no way you could melt down those single ingots. I have a powerful butane torch wirh small flame outlet. I have seen other jewellers use it. Do you think it would work? 24k is soft as can be. I can't get over how you made that. It is so impressive. From a local jewellers here £900 easy for a single 5gram 24kbgold ingot £300 what a saving
@dustinpollard623728 күн бұрын
I know it's been 3 years but i hope you're pouring ingots by now. My dad was a jeweler and i found his scrap tin after he passed. I bought the tools on Amazon and ebay and practiced on scrap jewelry and now I'm pouring great. I was gonna surprise my sister with a pendant like you said at the beginning, but the scrap ended up being more than expected so i 2 sided taped the bars and buttons inside the Altoids tin and taped it to a picture frame filled with pics of me and our father. You're definitely intelligent, attentive, and patient enough to make good pours. Thanks for the info.
@mustachemetalworks28 күн бұрын
I've just now been pouring rough ingots which have been... good enough. I still like running the torch with my charcoal block for most things though. Thank you for the kind words, I hope your projects are fun and successful!!
@christina665629 күн бұрын
Thank you! I learned I rather silversmith. 😅😃
@Elites-astheticАй бұрын
Great video thank you I only I have just started using 24 carat gold for all my jewellery projects Questions please What solder do you use so it keeps its assay of 24k or 995 I believe it still passes I did get told to make some from 97% gold 7% zinc
@mustachemetalworksАй бұрын
If you're trying to keep it 24k, fuse it. Don't mess around with homemade solders. That's my opinion.
@micahmann6967Ай бұрын
Hey! Just found your channel and am enjoying qll your videos! Im an amateur prospector and am getting married in the next 6 months. Im on my way to having found enough gold to make my own set of bands from and have no prior experience in making rings. What tools would you recommend I aquire before getting started? I really quite like that hammered texture a lot and thats about all im looking to do
@mustachemetalworksАй бұрын
Watch a few more of my videos. I'll get a ez start list together. Do watch my "simplest 1 dollar silver ring" video, I talk about what is absolutely necessary.
@NathanHarrison7Ай бұрын
"How did you get so cute?!" Haha. Subscribed!
@alessiogueli8827Ай бұрын
Good job ...🥂Beautiful ring
@skyelee9398Ай бұрын
Awesome job. Thanks for sharing
@roberthunter57282 ай бұрын
what was the mm of the mandrel u used to wrap your wire around?
@izthewiz-rb9np2 ай бұрын
That came out really good. The rolling mill works wonders for wire. I There is a couple cheap units I've seen on ebay thinking about buying.
@mustachemetalworks2 ай бұрын
My pepetools mill has made me money by saving me time. I bet the cheap blue cast mills are fine, but if youre trying to run a business, I would shell out the cash for a pepetools or durston! I looked at the cast iron Mills for a good long time. Buy the tools you need!
@deborahsargent90262 ай бұрын
Quite a system there!
@johnkidd7973 ай бұрын
kzfaq.infons9et_KqL8o?si=QLbe2qb9hJlkpcqk first 18k chain
@alextucker86243 ай бұрын
What’s a good site to buy all the equipment? I need to mount gold and silver and molds to make jewelry?
@mustachemetalworks3 ай бұрын
Try RioGrande and Amazon
@alextucker86243 ай бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks thank you
@hasfafamily3 ай бұрын
Semangat beraktifitas sahabat baik, itu pekerjaan yang membutuhkan kesabaran ektra.. 👍👍
@seeharvester3 ай бұрын
FINALLY! I've been searching you tube for 3 days to find out how to hammer pure silver! Thank you so much. Now I can go attempt my first "hammer time". "Can't touch this." :)
@mustachemetalworks3 ай бұрын
I'm glad you finally found it! Good luck with your project, try to be fearless, silver teaches good lessons. Try not to burn your fingers as much as I did the first few times, and wear eye protection! You're going to love it.
@_thasoldier3 ай бұрын
I'm sure it's because it's not hot enough. Maybe map gass 🎉
@wimkoens67803 ай бұрын
This is pure mess work that a child can do even better
@mustachemetalworks3 ай бұрын
Yes! What a terrible mess. Where were the children during quality control? Who allowed this work to see the light of day?
@johnkidd7973 ай бұрын
I found when drawing the wire that running the end through the Durston mill for an inch and making it smaller saves all the hammering and works just fine. I have done hundreds of yards of silver and a good few yards of 18k gold that i smelted from 3/4 9999 gold and 1/4 9999 silver. Try putting your draw plate into a vice and pulling with draw tongs, I draw 7metre lengths like that, the only limit is my workshop width. Also a 12v winch makes it effortless if your doing kilos of wire.👍🏴 P.S. you should consider a smiths little torch with oxy propane as its important with gold solder to get it melted in quick as I'm sure you know, definitely way more flux as well it never does any harm.
@mustachemetalworks3 ай бұрын
I concur, I think drawing tongs might be an important part missing from my setup. Do you recommend the durston tongs? I see good reviews of the durston tongs and very bad reviews of the "knockoff amazon" offerings. Smith little torch is somewhere in my future, not sure how near. Maybe once I graduate from my little workstation to a real studio :)
@johnkidd7973 ай бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks Too be honest I recommend anything and everything from Durston, I have my stuff in a crowded workshop and also in my sun room. I'm going to mill the wood to make a nice big jewellery only workshop. I am a relative beginner at jewellery but have always worked with metal in different ways. I actually enjoy doing every part of it and it isn't too taxing to do. I have invested a fortune in tooling.
@user-yk1rc6ty2q3 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@mustachemetalworks3 ай бұрын
thank you!
@jadenephrite4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video. For those who are unfamiliar with the process, heating a nonferrous metal such as gold, silver or copper to a dull red heat and allowing it to cool is known as annealing. Annealing softens a metal by restoring its malleability. Increased malleability allows annealed metal to be hammered, compressed or bent and to avoid the formation of stress cracks due to excessive work hardening. Annealing also restores the ductility of a metal so that it be stretched or elongated such as being drawn through a die to form wire.
@Mike.The.Jeweler4 ай бұрын
You can pickle quench silver while annealing to get rid of a lot of that surface scaling make it easier to polish, and a liver of sulphur antique in the letters would help them pop and is super easy to apply, the old cyananide black was waaay darker but mad toxic and hard to find now a days lol
@mustachemetalworks4 ай бұрын
I will try pickle quenching next time! I wonder if my tap water is the source of the cloud... Maybe I should try distilled water, and maybe I should try distilled water to make my pickle too. Thanks for the idea.
@Mike.The.Jeweler4 ай бұрын
@mustachemetalworks even quenching in pickle will cloud it if you get it too hot, just a faint red on the heat works great for annealing on silver / yellow gold, and you can quench yellow gold / silver, don't have to let cool, white gold you gotta get quite a bit hotter and let air cool, the pickle more so saves the fire scale, which is the hard surface to subsurface oxidation discoloration that takes a bit more effort to get shiny / right color. Boric acid powder and ethyl or denatured alcohol in a 1:1 mix to make a slurry, thin layer on the metal, and then light it with a flame to make a oxidation protectant layer is what benchies usually use (thats also what you coat diamonds sapphires and rubies in for retipping / torch work to keep them from scorching). Looks like you got all the basics of everything down and got a sweet shop, just some quality of life tricks will save you some time and effort, anything to save a few minutes makes a big difference over the course of a lot of pieces
@mustachemetalworks3 ай бұрын
I just quenched in pickle last night, it splattered everywhere and the acid totally ate some of my skin.... I'm going to have to learn the right way to do it, because that wasn't the right way.
@Mike.The.Jeweler3 ай бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks haha well good try and it will definitely fuck up your skin, pickle pots with a lid and long copper tongs, make sure not to use anything ferrous based as the pickle will eat it right up, do you have a discord channel or something? Can give you stuller or gesswein links for stuff to make it easier
@jadenephrite4 ай бұрын
Regarding 10:02, the steel hand clamp acts as a heat sink such that the gold ring does not heat up sufficiently to melt the solder adequately. Instead try using ceramic tip cross lock self-closing tweezers. The ceramic tips are insulators such that they do not conduct away heat from the torch @ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j5xinZCLyamqn2g.html
@mustachemetalworks4 ай бұрын
You're totally correct; I didn't know these existed! I will be purchasing a new set for my workshop asap! Thank you for the heads up.
@jadenephrite4 ай бұрын
The Third Hand Tool will clamp onto the Locking Tweezers @ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l6inZNphxKjMXXk.html
@gabrielabissinger62634 ай бұрын
Hey, cool, youtube notifications work again!! Gorgeous piece! I like very much this kind of bracelets!
@mustachemetalworks4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! This bracelet was super fun to make and I'm happy with the level of effort required to make it (not too difficult, not too easy). I'm glad youtube sent you back to the new video!
@gabrielabissinger62634 ай бұрын
Crap, youtube notifications are not working again!!! Luckly I was "passing by" to check if you have posted something.
@mustachemetalworks4 ай бұрын
The Algorithm gives first dibs to those who post regularly. Poor me has been too busy actually making jewelry to appease the youtube gods. Thank you for stopping by!
@Peppe_014 ай бұрын
Beutiful!
@mustachemetalworks4 ай бұрын
thank you! I think so too. Its nice to wear it everyday
@hepburn1184 ай бұрын
Parallelogram? Was that word you were looking for, for the shape you made? I can see why it would be.
@mustachemetalworks4 ай бұрын
Yes, I think that's a good word. Sometimes the brain/mouth interface doesnt operate at 100%
@hepburn1184 ай бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks I understand mate, believe me I understand. With the meds I take, I suffer from the same affliction.
@rikbrown48644 ай бұрын
Glad to see you're still making videos
@mustachemetalworks4 ай бұрын
I have a few videos in the pipeline, but my free time is seriously swamped making etsy orders! Thanks for the support
@mr.perfect1er9335 ай бұрын
They have a record when you buy more than $600 worth of metals
@mustachemetalworks5 ай бұрын
"They" have a record every time you visit the restroom. Should we stop doing what we need to do?
@ShinyKnife5 ай бұрын
Hey you did better than I could ever do. But why not solder the joint with 14k or 18k? The melting temp is lower right? That way you don’t melt the wall. Anyway good job.
@mustachemetalworks5 ай бұрын
Yes, correct. Melting point would have been lower. I was trying to keep the overall karat result of the piece as high as possible so I choose to fuse whenever it is structurally possible.
@ShinyKnife4 ай бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks Ok gotcha
@user-lc2ho8mt5j5 ай бұрын
Iron gold plainer sir to order about that tools
@user-lc2ho8mt5j5 ай бұрын
Sir help me I need a gold planner iron I like that work if available in ur shop how much
@Elites-asthetic6 ай бұрын
Great video I’m starting a wedding band next month and this had me researching so thanks So would I be totally fine beating some 24k gold really thin and place in between the gap on the band then heat up causing a weld but keeping the ring pure 24k gold Or do you use dust here in the video Thanks agsin
@mustachemetalworks5 ай бұрын
A thin strip of gold is perfectly suited for the weld. I use dust because I have it on hand from my saw work, but I have used tiny strips of wire. Anything with significant surface area will melt faster than the major work. Good luck and thanks for watching
@markdaveculpa63646 ай бұрын
So jewelers were really right. 24kt is really so soft to work with. That's why they need to alloy it.
@mustachemetalworks6 ай бұрын
Right, they need to alloy it. That's why I wouldn't wear 24k gold every day, especially a wedding ring. That would be especially dumb.
@evandence6 ай бұрын
Dude you need to get a oxygen and mapp gas set up! It’s like night and day! I’m jealous of your roller though. I hammered mine out honestly doesn’t take as long as you would think but you have to anneal a lot. I wear a size 13+ ring it came out to 25 grams lol I still have about 32 grams left. I ran out of oxygen but man I went from a ts8000 torch I bought to my dad’s old craftsman oxygen/ mapp set up and it works so well to not only fuse but also to melt down the gold in like 1/10 of the time. I don’t have the super precise tips though some day I’ll get a finer set up but for my chunky ring it worked fine… a super fine tip would be amazing though. I thought the craftsman was fine until I saw other precise ones online….
@mustachemetalworks6 ай бұрын
I've been eyeing the smith little torch dual fuel, but I'm seriously nervous having bottle o2. It freaks me out and I would feel better if someone would teach me the fuel blending. Good job on making a ring! 25g is a massive unit. The precision tips on the little torch must be a huge upgrade for fusing joints. I think they're key, especially when using such a hot torch. Keep me updated, and if you post your ring, I'll give it a thumbs up!
@evandence6 ай бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks well maybe get the little bottles like I have and you’ll learn it’s definitely the same thing though with the big except you have the mixer by your hand rather than the bottles, I’ve used oxygen/ acetylene cutting torches before so it’s the same concept just little bit of fuel, add oxygen but just an added regulator which you look at the numbers and learn quick for optimal cutting pressure, you’ll see it turn blue if not you add just a tiny bit of fuel if the oxygen isn’t turning blue I’d say just get it you won’t regret it, as long as you can buy bottles where you are at you’ll be fine. Just if you have angle grinders or random flames make sure valves are shut and check it with soapy water/ by ear periodically but even if the oxygen caught fire it would burn and not explode lol. The bad thing about the little 16 ounce I found out is it runs out of oxygen quickly compared to the propane or mapp + it’s 14 a bottle rather than 3-12 like propane/ mapp That being said if you use it just to fuse it would last long. You’ll be so happy with the smith torch.
@mandraxfilostein6 ай бұрын
Thanks bro appreciate the breakdown
@haraldkrieger65626 ай бұрын
It a ring for somewhere else
@deborahsargent90267 ай бұрын
Interesting 😊
@brian16757 ай бұрын
Why not using Flux past for joint it . also be cheaper to buy casting grain from your local refinery then pay a premium on a bar
@mustachemetalworks7 ай бұрын
Flux wont really help the fusion joint because the gold doesnt need to be prevented from reacting to any of the molecules in the air. Casing grain doesn't buy me much from where I purchase (APMEX) and I dont have a local refinery to call. I dont pay much premium over spot anyway.
@cantthinkof7 ай бұрын
Fun fact: that half ozt of gold cost my entire life
@mustachemetalworks7 ай бұрын
Are you King Midas?
@sergente17 ай бұрын
How thick in mm was the wire you Made it from ?
@mustachemetalworks7 ай бұрын
Around 2mm (I believe)
@ThunderMuffinMan7 ай бұрын
Ew, a nose ring. Top 5 grossest places to put a ring.
@izalternative7 ай бұрын
🧌"The internet, best place to spew my ignorance" 😑 ew, Imagine caring that someone has piercings, and btw the nose is a super common spot
@ThunderMuffinMan7 ай бұрын
@@izalternative Just because 'everyone is doing it' doesn't mean it's not disgusting. But hey, you have fun rocking your door knocker.
@izalternative7 ай бұрын
@@ThunderMuffinMan Dude what's more "disgusting" is your attitude, why are nose rings so "gross" bro. It is the same as piercing a conch in your ear. It's just a hole in the body that you clean like everything else.
@harborcbs7 ай бұрын
Why ?
@saltymemesmith7 ай бұрын
A skilled craftsman 🔥
@SmartBettsPM7 ай бұрын
I hate the idea of soldering 22k into 24. I'm just going to keep being stubborn and learn to fuse like there is no other way! Great vid, I'm subbing!
@jtrovz33577 ай бұрын
I want one do you sell these?!???
@mustachemetalworks7 ай бұрын
I don't sell to most people. If you're prepared to spend four grand, we can chat.
@dotalesale6 ай бұрын
@@mustachemetalworks 4grand. What's the weight for the ring then?? For 4 grand, i would expect the ring to be atleast 30 gram 😂 if not, the mark up is INSANE 😂
@mustachemetalworks6 ай бұрын
@@dotalesale I charge insane markup, which is why I usually tell people to make their own.... because it's really easy.
@dotalesale6 ай бұрын
@mustachemetalworks agree. 👍 Atleast u are being honest
@Makermook7 ай бұрын
I made one that ended up weighing precisely 1/4 ozt. The hardest part was fusing it without having it slump.
@mustachemetalworks7 ай бұрын
If only we could somehow work in zero gravity to prevent molten metal slump... it's a pain in the rear