In a word........NO. I have a good selection of Summicron, Elmarit, Voigtlander, Zeiss Planar, and Distagon lenses. The Viogtlander Skopars, Noktons and Ultrons are as good as the others by Zeiss and Leitz. But the Voigtlander APO Lanthars are BY FAR the best of all of them.

I've just made a my take on the perfect new camera that could be released kzfaq.info/get/bejne/br5lgbmHudvPgZs.html and after doing this diy exercise I come up to a conclusion that so much time and people effort where spent for just another "reusable disposable camera" (c) Reddit:( Hopefully MiNT 35 will close this gap

Shame on you . This is not acceptable. One must be blind to look at film photos nowadays. You want a film look, just apply countless filters to digital processing of RAW data. “ film community” I have not enough words of disapproval for your consumerist hedonistic approach to global resources. You want all this chemical dirt back? What for? For your wasteful pleasure of getting on good frame per film? Which you will the scan any way to treat in your PC? “Film community” you must be out of your minds .

Shame on you. This is not acceptable. One must be blind to look at film photos nowadays. You want a film look, just apply countless filters to digital processing of RAW data. “ film community” I have not enough words of disapproval for your consumerist hedonistic approach to global resources. You want all this chemical dirt back? What for? For your wasteful pleasure of getting on good frame per film? Which you will the scan any way to treat in your PC? “Film community” you must be out of your minds .

This is the best video on how to improve the negative that I have seen.

Let’s go Valoi! Easy 120!

This is incredibly lame. Seriously... "Don't leave the lens cap on... Don't put film in backwards... Don't open the camera... Get a camera that works..." Are you freakin kidding me? This is a 5min video artificially stretched into a 20min time-waster. Total click-bait.

It might be just me, but the phone scans look way sharper than the Epson scans. Yes, the colours are out of whack, but that’s down to editing, not resolution or sharpness, one could edit the phone scanned negatives using the same software as the epson scans.

Sehr gut. 14. Fail to use the strap

Half the size, half the quality, double the price!

I think its a proper half-frame camera, but unfortunately what a lot of new comers to film won't know about half-frame is that costs almost twice as much to have it developed and scanned by a lab, as it would regular 35mm. I hope Pentax tries again, this time with a regular 35mm camera. Pretty cool, though!

Beginner camera mistakes. I had plenty. Bought my Canon AE1-Program at an apotheke in then West Berlin in 1984. I got home and the operators manual was in German. I was lost since I didn't know basic German at the time. I hope you chuckeled at this Karin.

Dear Karin, great video. Have you tried the Voigtlander 35mm Ultron F2? I am looking for a budget M mount lens. I simply can't justify spending almost 6000 for the Summilux as an amateur photographer.

Pentax 17 549,99 Euro vs. iPhone prices?

When Pentax started this they admitted that they didn't have any people in the company that had been there in the film camera days. They were very much starting from scratch and having to reinvent the wheel. This wasn't so much a technology demonstrator as a can we even do this again demonstrator. They had announced at the start of this that the first camera they built would be a simple almost point and shoot type of camera and if they could do this and if it sold enough units then they'd work on a more advanced camera that most of us old film folks are really interested in. Will I buy one? I'm not sure right now but I do hope that they do well. We need new film cameras from companies like Pentax, Nikon and Canon. Oh I know that Leica has never really stopped making film cameras but we want affordable decent cameras not some boutique type overly expensive status symbol

Ich hätte ja von einer neuen Pentax 67 geträumt, wenn man sich die Gebrauchtpreise in dem System ansieht, müsste es doch Nachfrage geben. Aber wahrscheinlich viel zu wenig, dass es sich für Pentax gelohnt hätte, ich hab da wahrscheinlich einen völlig verzerrten Nerd-Blick... Mit der Pentax 17 kann ich persönlich gar nichts anfangen. Das liegt aber an meiner Art zu fotografieren. Als gebrannten Kind von vielen defekten Minolta AF-Bodies habe ich auch die Befürchtung, dass diese doch sehr elektronische Kamera nicht lange halten wird und eine gut gepflegte PEN-F in 20 Jahren noch funktioniert, nicht aber die Pentax 17. Und warum man eine elektronische Fokussierung einbaut, aber keinen AF, verstehe ich nicht. Außer man will später ein (noch teureres) AF-Modell nachschieben. Ich weiß auch nicht, ob man für junge Film-Einsteiger eine Kamera so "vereinfachen" (?) muss. Die beste Freundin meiner großen Tochter, ein 14-jähriges Teenie-Mädel hat die Canon EF (aus den 1970iger Jahren) ihres Opas ausgegraben und sich reingefuchst, obwohl das eine wirklich nicht einsteiger-freundliche Kamera ist. Die Bedienung der schönen alten Technik dürfte für viele doch auch zum Reiz der Filmfotografie beitragen. Und das sehe ich bei der Plastik-Pentax halt gar nicht. Trotzdem ist eine Film-Kamera eines größeren Herstellers, der nicht Leica ist, eine spannende Sache und für Street-Fotografie dürfte das Ding klasse sein.

Being manual wind, can you do double exposures?

Thank you. I'm an old noob when it comes to Auto modes. Have fun. Thank you for your review. It's good that Ricoh Pentax have provided this NEW opportunity to shoot film.

It appears to me that Pentax has designed this camera to be „modular“. This is also why it is that big. Moving to a full frame point and shoot or even to an SLR could be done with a lot of reused parts. The price, tjoa, well. But then again, the Rollei 35 was around USD 1200 if you would buy it now, a roll of film would be around USD 30 and development around the same. So even at todays prices, film is not that expensive 😅

How can you says at half cost? printing half frame is at the same price as FF and if you choose to print 72 pictures rather than 36 you just double the cost! Lambdas photographer will do that once or twice and then go back to their smartphone and the 17 will spend some times in a drawer!

$500 price tag and plastic? Whaaaaaa

I'm strongly left-eye dominant and I've always been hoping for a camera with the viewfinder on the right 😢

"Half cost" "double fun"? It's hard to have fun with a horribly expensive plastic garbage toy!

I shoot M10M and was thinking of going back to Leica iiig. I shoot mostly landscapes but what you see as a negative of overshooting - I look at as one of the biggest pluses of digital. I can spend an hour on a scene with different compositions. Come home and pics that I thought were going to be great - weren't - but others were. I would also have a hard time giving up the convenience of editing images right after a fun shoot. Instead of waiting until my roll of film is gone.

It is nice camera and i really want to support Pentax for doing this. Please dont be such snobbs. We will probably dont get anything new in years if we are so negative about it.

I expected the 17 to be not exactly cheap, but my expectation was more in the 300€ region. Which would have seen me very probably ordering one sometime later this year. 550 is that factor 2 that just is too much though. If I want to spend that kind of money I'll get a Mint Instaflex.

This camera is worth every cent being asked for it, it's a new beginning, digital has become sort of boring and way out too expensive. The Pentax 17 is going to be a big seller, let's stop being too critical. I too use a variety of 'old' 35mm film cameras, mainly Canon, but these won't last forever. I have a feeling Pentax may have something else up their sleeve. Exciting times ahead at last, ❤

500+ DOLLARS just to save a few on film . I think ill wait for the used market for a cheap one *dies from waiting

I dont understant why the trees are in sharp focus. Over the course of a year they will grow appreciably and so appear out of focus. Same as when you shoot a moving target and your shutter is too slow.

Hi, The 6V battery under the camera is for the light meter ? Thank you.

High price tag, mediocre build quality and the fixed lens… combined a big no for the camera. Maybe would buy it anyways just to support Pentax in building a new film camera.

Interesting but too expensive.

Es ist ein spannendes Experiment. Ich wünsche Pentax viel Erfolg. Mögen genügend junge Menschen auf den Zug springen und sich die Kamera leisten können. Das Design ist Geschmacksache, ich finde es gar nicht so schlecht. Die Frage ist jedoch, warum entscheiden sich die meisten für die analoge Fotografie? Für mich war es die Herausforderung Fotografie wirklich neu intensiv lernen zu müssen. Dafür nimmt die Pentax 17 schon zu viele Entscheidungen (Einstellungen) ab. Man bekommt auch für den Preis sehr Hochwertige analoge Kameras mit tollen Objektiven und kann ein größeren kreativen Bereich abdecken. Ich habe für meine Nikon FE + 50mm ais, 24mm ais und 28mm ai 550€ bezahlt in spitzen Zustand. Letztendlich ist es egal welche Kamera man hat, der hinter der Kamera macht das Foto. Oje ich schreib wieder viel zu viel. Danke für dein Review. 😂

I have been looking at buying a Leica T for the last two months, and it is a boxed NEW old stock that is on sale for half of the original retail value. I've been buying bits in advance like two L mount 7 Artisans lenses and a half case, but in the meantime had been entering the monthly competition run by Leica Hunter on IG. I normally watch the live prize draw but couldn't a few weeks ago, and so I watched the recorded version on their IG page / account, and to my surprise I'd won a Leica M6 Titanium body ... I'm so happy, and now I'll have a use for the 7 Artisans 28mm M mount that I'd been using on my Lumix GX1 via an adaptor .... I'll now have to start shooting film a bit more.

Nice review, I agree the price point is wrong, should be 299 to 350 tops.

Half cost? The camera is 500 dollars.

I just think the price is crazy. I shot half frame cameras back in the freaking '80s and '90s and they were considered a joke camera back then. The idea that I can get fully loaded Canon AE-1 kit for less then that. That being said I can see exactly what they're going for. All the kids shooting on their phone getting into 35 this is literally the best opportunity you're going to have.

Hey a fellow #reeldawgie !!! Love your take on the pentax. I just posted a critical scathing review of the 17. I'm worried BIG FILM is going to come after me for bashing their new promised child. I think they stole my aerochrome 8x10 sheets and next they'll go after my minox subminiature film. Soon I'll be left shooting nothing but ilford Xp2 =(

the price is definitely weird. I kinda expected this be a higher end, $250, kodak h35. I definitely think it could be fun to play with. I'm a newer photographer that wants to get into film, but idk if I can justify that price when there's a million used film cameras out there that are just as good for maybe $100. It feel like they should have gone super high end or budget to start and then introduced this middle ground option later to round out the lineup

I always used my left eye and only managed change it when I learnt about rangefinders

Thank you for your review! I'm excited about this camera, but a little disappointed with the final product. The camera feels plasticy and not very reliable, I don't like the zone focusing and I'm also not happy about the lack of manual exposure control. The maximum shutter speed of 1/350s is also too slow for sunny days. I'm glad that Pentax is back in the film camera business, but it's alarming that Pentax (and most likely other companies) seem to have lost the knowledge of the last 50 years of film camera manufacturing. From a technical point of view, this camera is more or less at the level of the 1970s. In terms of repairability, I doubt that this camera will be easier or cheaper to repair than a Pen F - especially in the long run. For all these reasons, it's a pass for me. However, I'm still excited and optimistic about what Pentax will come up with next!

$550? Cheaper than the Spotmatic figuring in inflation .

I'm having trouble finding the price of the csmera. It's a great idea.

Have you thought about comparing the new Pentax 17 with the Kodak H35N half frame camera? The Pentax 17 is set to retail for $500.00 US and the Kodak H35N retails at $65. A huge difference in price. One thing I have noticed is that the flash on the Kodak H35N is very weak and the camera has one shutter speed and two apertures settings with a one plastic lens element and one glass. This does limit control significantly, but if price is more impressive then the Kodak H35N might be a cheaper option for getting into film photography.

Its huge, but you cant change lenses It has manual focus, but you cant control shutter or aperture Its made out of plastic, but costs over 500€?! Who is this for? I like the half frame idea, but this is a gimmick designed for beginners, priced for enthusiasts. If it was a small, high quality point and shoot in half frame, it would make it a really good "take it with you and make memories" camera. If there were no used film cameras on the market, they might be able to get away with this, but 500 € will get you A LOT..

Think it's a great choice. Be interested to find out how large can you print a frame. With the cost of Film these days I'd happily purchase one. 72 frames now that sounds great. Nice looking camera.

I think this camera is ultimately really let down by style pf focus they decided on. If it was a range finder or even auto focus i would consider buying it. But ive had cameras that are "Guess-focus" and I just hated them. Apart from that, i really do like this camera, this camera is like my Fuji X100 except actually film 🤷

Your intro gave me goose bumps! Alltough i already knwew about the Pentax17. Im still in doubt. Buying it or not. I probably will buy it because it is such a relevant move by Ricoh for the entire filmcommunity. The more people shooting film, the better the filmprices will be (i hope). Thanks for your review!

I see Nikon and Canon CEOs looking into the mirrors and seeing donkeys :) Thinking: “why that ware not us to lunch similar project?” Well done Pentax !!

Thanks Pentax for that price tag making me definitely get an Alfie Tych now.