Yes - no spear expert myself (assembling some spears for HEMA training now) but clear she is new to spear and he is probably quite an experienced HEMA - who knew he had to come in past the tip. My understanding is that a significant advantage of spear is its tip maneuverability - basic go thrust low then high repeat, and it is hard for any weapon to match. See the scholar gladitoria video on spear combat which shows even modest spearman seem to have a significant advantage over even better trained swordmen. The spear was the predominant weapon through history for a number good reasons - including its effectiveness. Liked the low impact spear design for training bamboo and pool noodle - suspect the bamboo is replaced frequently. Thanks for making the video it is good food for thought - look forward to more on spear!
@saamfvg16 сағат бұрын
Truth be told, it's not really easy to manouvre the spear and especially other pole weapons with bigger blades like the partisan. They can be unbalanced towards the blade and they're usually somewhat awkward to use. We tried the Blackfencer partisan blades on stiffer pole to be more historically correct, but they were too heavy and cumbersome for Martina to use.
@biobomb938 сағат бұрын
Hi, i'm the guy with the dagger, yes i have more experience than her but still it was not easy: i had to think of a strategy beforehand and when i got really tired at around half of the video it was game over for me. Now i'm wondering if the same strategy works with someone taller, more aggressive and experienced.
@jaywulf2 күн бұрын
Circle the tip and push. Dont keep it static. Dont give the opponent time to think. Use your distance to your advantage. Dont be afraid to give ground if its going to give you tac advantage, you have plenty of room.
@parvetto40822 күн бұрын
Nahh, she cant the spear
@saamfvg2 күн бұрын
I guess you meant "she can't use the spear" and you would be correct, it is quite obvious. In fact, that was her fourth time using it 😉
@elgostineКүн бұрын
@@saamfvg its not always evident unless youve even watched the spears use by someone who knows how to use it competantly or skillfully for me that was initially.. martial arts movies(yes really) not that wushu is actual combat but it showcases the range of techniques and the use of sliding the spear in the hands for different contexts (true fact its how i first got the ideas when using spear in sparring albeit refined with more common sense footwork and such)
@jtlanci4 күн бұрын
Dude this was sick, would definitely like to see more.
@saamfvg3 күн бұрын
Eventually we'd like to do more
@MairsMate7 күн бұрын
Very nice. Have you ever considerrd making a video on his double sword? Would be very cool to see (if you haven't already).
@saamfvg7 күн бұрын
This kind of video takes a long time to make, we have a couple in the works but we don't know of and when we'll be able to make them...
@georgea59918 күн бұрын
I got them as a cheap alternative to hard polymer longsword gloves (I prefer five finger freedom to mittens, and in the HEMA world that comes at a price), and so far haven't been disappointed. Admittedly, they aren't of the _greatest_ quality, and the center hard shell could extend down to where the weak spot on the wrist is, but they are adequate, imo, for light to medium sparring if you're not trying to hand snipe. They're also at a decent mid range cost without having to buy clams, hooves, or $400 Gabriels...
@saamfvg7 күн бұрын
Hand sniping is a core of the Bolognese school we study, so...
@biobomb9310 күн бұрын
"entra?? Non penso proprio"
@SuperCarlosluciano10 күн бұрын
Ce crisi
@JeremyRoyaux11 күн бұрын
Pretty harsh review... These gloves are one of the best 1H gloves on the market. Unperfect? Yes but they are as good as Thokks for half the price. What is better for saber or 1H at this time? Not much. Having 5 fingers mobility and perfect protection is something that will never exists. Can't have it all :( Been using these for more than a year now and never got any big injury. It does not matter if you can "feel" a hit. What matters is the protection against serious wounds. Do you have a pair of gloves for 1H that is better than this? Because i can see in a lot of your videos people using gloves even less protective like RD or Kevlar light gloves The only thing i could not try yet are the gloves from HF Armory ....
@saamfvg10 күн бұрын
Those of us who use Thokk gloves said that the SupFen are less protective, not too much, but enough to be noticed at the first use. We don't study saber so we can't comment on that, but we've heard from more than one person that they are satisfied by the SupFen, which is good to know. Again, as already stated in the video, it's not like they don't ptoect at all, but they have significant flaws that could lead to injuries, especially when using steel blades. Talking about injuries, you say that you "never got any big injury", does it mean you actually got injuried using them?
@JeremyRoyaux10 күн бұрын
@@saamfvg some hits did sting a little, if hitting some of the weakest spots indeed. Same with Thokks really, but you might be right in saying that Thokks can be slightly better at protection some parts. I can get on with that but it's not a huge difference No gloves on the market can protect you 100% from injury. What i like about these and Thokks is that the protection is "good enough", "nearly all the time" while preserving agility. I can't use a 1H sword without that agility. I can use my longsword with big bulky clamshell gloves like spes heavies, but i cannot do that with a saber or broadsword for exemple. At this time, i don't think it is possible to create gloves that will protect you 100% without impairing your ability to handly your weapon correctly (wrist movements for exemple..., and freedom to position your fingers correctly on the blade). For many years, everybody used Red Dragons because there was nothing better. Nowadays, we have much better options like Thokks and Supfen impact gloves. I think it will be many years before we get something better.
@saamfvg10 күн бұрын
Yes, unfortunately it does seem we are still quite some time away from THE gloves...
@krzysztofmatuszyk200415 күн бұрын
They made an addon that they sell with the sf impact resistant glove that fits any glove appearently. It seems like it covers the spots that the glove itself doesn't, so im concidering these for sabre. They seem more dexterous than spes heavies because of the split fingers, but more protective than the red dragons im currently using.
@saamfvg15 күн бұрын
If you do end up getting them, let us know your thoughts once you've had the chance to use them
@JeremyRoyaux11 күн бұрын
SPES HEAVIES are entirely different type of gloves. Can't use a saber decently with SH for exemple. So yeah, you have to trade some protection for agility. There is no way around that. ATM , with all these flaws, SupFen gloves and Thokks are still the best gloves on the market for some weapons in my opinion. I would gladly buy something better, but from what i have seen, there is nothing better
@JeremyRoyaux9 күн бұрын
Ive yet to see the addon in real life... I''m curious but a bit skeptical about it. It ressembles the old hand of glory gloves that was sold years ago and is still on the website. If i remember well, it wasnt that great.
@AttaraxHistoricalFencing17 күн бұрын
I use them for my off hand in single rapier if I plan on aggressive hand parries. They seem quite good for that. Of course, rapier is the most polite sword to get cut on the hand by.
@saamfvg17 күн бұрын
Rapier seems to be what they are most suited for
@MrRourk23 күн бұрын
Excellent! Please make more.
@saamfvg23 күн бұрын
Thanks, we will!
@jasonjames983624 күн бұрын
Nice fencing. Does it feel weird to have to fight at such a close range with the shorter weapons? Was the hip-hinge forward intentional or just a result of the shorter weapons and feeling the need to push reach? Who made those storta? The guards/hilts are very nice looking. Thanks for the video
@saamfvg24 күн бұрын
All the synthetic simulacrums we use are from Blackfencer. Us being used to sideswords, yes, it does feel a bit odd to fence with shorter weapons, but you get used to it rather quickly.
@Private_Joe28 күн бұрын
what an interesting fight! not bad the cape...
@biobomb93Ай бұрын
C'è crisi
@gabriellaycock5209Ай бұрын
The bard should really have to sing, or chant, or play the cittern with one hand while fencing.
@onetwothreeFАй бұрын
Hi! Any update on these?
@saamfvgАй бұрын
Hi, we're working on the second part, but long story short they're... lacking. They are almost good for synthetics, but not protective enough for steel.
@OuroborosArmoryАй бұрын
The raperist needs to focus on the fact it is a rapier not a sidesword. Point attacks, range, small movements. Cuts are almost always a secondary intent
@saamfvgАй бұрын
Neither of them is trained in rapier, so yeah, they do use it like what they're more used to.
@gtifranzАй бұрын
the videos are nice but the intro is wayyyy to loud :) cheers
@EconaelGamingАй бұрын
Thanks for the review! Now I understand, that these are made for nylon, not for steel.
@AnnaPighinАй бұрын
Dovremmo farne più spesso di video review! Facci sapere le stats di questo video 😂
@AlexandreSgroi-gy6qiАй бұрын
👍⚔️
@GiaraGiarotti2 ай бұрын
That was very fun!! i wonder if you could simulate an axe (the Berserker signature weapon) with adding some padding on the end of an already padded stick.
@saamfvg2 ай бұрын
Weapons like maces and axes are inherently dangerous, so we avoid them.
@thechallenger752Ай бұрын
@@saamfvgwhat about something like the cold steel tomahawk?
@saamfvgАй бұрын
@@thechallenger752 We use their synthetic bucklers, if the tomahawk is made of the same material, well, in full contact sparring that's a guaranteed brain trauma...
@thechallenger752Ай бұрын
@@saamfvgit is made of the same material, however it’s only 15.9 ounces and the head isn’t as heavy as you might think it is. If you don’t go full force, it’ll be fine.
@gabriellaycock52092 ай бұрын
Daggers against longsword is a very tough call.
@saamfvg2 ай бұрын
Especially if you keep throwing yourself at your opponent instead of avoiding getting hit ;)
@biobomb932 ай бұрын
"o' famo strano"
@raffaelemaiero31622 ай бұрын
Quanta ignoranza 😂
@fabricio-agrippa-zarate2 ай бұрын
Naaahhh bro kicked the cape into the opponent's face, most epic move! Won't find it in any manuscript😂😂
@saamfvg2 ай бұрын
Yeah, people don't usually expect something like that to actually happen! 😁
@gurkfisk892 ай бұрын
Me trying to do the epic move: Step 1: Tangle my foot in the cape. Step 2: There is no step 2, I can't step, my foot is still tangled in the cape. 3: Fall on face.
@fabricio-agrippa-zarate2 ай бұрын
@@gurkfisk89 🤣
@jonathangelli34132 ай бұрын
Thanks man, i love to do that! But not always end in this way
@ayoubamaioua48852 ай бұрын
Hello there guys, I just saw your interpretation of single rapier of di grassi and it was very good. Could you please make a video about di grassi two rapiers?
@saamfvg2 ай бұрын
Hi, we'd like to do more, but those kind of videos require a lot of time and work to make so we can't promise.
@SuperCarlosluciano2 ай бұрын
a truly dishonorable duel 😢
@saamfvg2 ай бұрын
😂
@letsgo5292 ай бұрын
Sickk
@Poohze012 ай бұрын
Love a good knife fight!
@biobomb933 ай бұрын
Ad un certo punto J mi ricorda che ci sono altri bersagli oltre alla mano 😂
@jonathangelli34133 ай бұрын
Daje de torneino!!!
@gladius24893 ай бұрын
Still doesn’t look realistic. They’re not treating it as if each cut could be lethal.
@ronaldocappelletti3 ай бұрын
It is always marvelous to see sword and rotella: keep it up!
@saamfvg3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yes, it doesn't get enough love!
@edenbright28834 ай бұрын
And this is elegance
@saamfvg4 ай бұрын
They are very clean fencers indeed
@manuelmineau15124 ай бұрын
Have a pair since probably 5-6 months. They are good for saber and "ok" for sidesword. Definitly an improvement from the Red Dragons. BUT the leather is already pierced and the finish on top of the hard plate has gone off...
@saamfvg4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@TyLarson4 ай бұрын
Have you tried the thokk gloves? That is what they remind me of. I got a pair a month ago but haven't tried them out yet. They seem to be too bulky for a lot of lighter weapons and not bulky enough to protect for others. I wonder how well they might do for messer. I need to sit and break them in a bit before use. I bet you could hack something together to make them better for heavier weapons like the thokk have but by the time you do that you might as well have just gotten sparring gloves or spes lobster etc.
@saamfvg4 ай бұрын
A couple of us have Thokk gloves, they are both similar and different. Yes, if you have to modify them you're better off buying a pair of lobsters.
@ilmisteriosofranceseradene75484 ай бұрын
Thanks for the input! We tried them out some months ago in SAAM FI, checking out its qualities and flaws through sparring, and we’ve pretty much reached the same conclusions as you!
@onebigadvocado63764 ай бұрын
Grazie
@aikidochania48954 ай бұрын
Molto interessante, specialmente la posizione dei piedi e dell'anca in cui noto una familiarita' con l'Aikido. Complimenti! In questo tipo di scherma e' piu' importante trapassare-perforare o tagliare?
@saamfvg4 ай бұрын
Più che dal tipo di scherma, dipende dal tipo di arma e periodo storico. Ad esempio una striscia (rapier) favorisce colpi di punta, mentre una sciabola favorisce i tagli.
@aikidochania48954 ай бұрын
@@saamfvg grazie!
@Poohze014 ай бұрын
Fun, Fun, Fun!
@saamfvg4 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@biobomb934 ай бұрын
Bellissima idea!
@Protostrator4 ай бұрын
its a longsword - federschwert, not two-hander
@saamfvg4 ай бұрын
Which is inherently a sword used with two hands, therefore a two handed sword 😉
@jonathangelli34134 ай бұрын
And how many hand do u need to use a federschwert?
@SuperCarlosluciano4 ай бұрын
my dear @protostrator what would be the difference between the two weapons?
@jonathangelli34134 ай бұрын
❤
@biobomb934 ай бұрын
Veramente interessante questo sparring!
@giovanniricco9885 ай бұрын
sfida di due stili con un gap di circa 200 anni con spade che dovrebbero esser abbastanza diverse, poi potreste spiegarmi la guardia con il boccoliere che protegge la mano armata tipica dell'I.33, nelle 12 guardie del Marozzo non c'e.
@raffaelemaiero31625 ай бұрын
Siamo in due😁
@jomind5 ай бұрын
Ne farei un altro tipo adesso! :3
@zigas94835 ай бұрын
Che tipo di sciabole sono state usate e dove le posso trovare?
@saamfvg5 ай бұрын
Sono le sciabole della Blackfencer: blackfencer.com/en/home/27-like-steel-waster-saber-v2.html
@zigas94835 ай бұрын
Grazie
@SuperCarlosluciano5 ай бұрын
Bel video. Si vede la differenza quando si è abituati ad usare la due mani