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@jonanjello10 күн бұрын
Love the art and coloring in this. I may need to seek out these issues. THanks
@jonanjello10 күн бұрын
I've been catching up on these latest uploads. Listening at work. Thanks, guys!
@jonanjello10 күн бұрын
I continue to listen and enjoy this excellent podcast. Thanks, gents.
@carlgibson28511 күн бұрын
Jerry Siegel also wrote some UK comics including The Spider, a character who was supposed to the world's greatest criminal even though he never commited any crimes.
@Biggarou13 күн бұрын
.. you dont need a cape when you can lift 400+ tons. I was told the name came from a Laurel Kent character and yes a robot.
@fad2323 күн бұрын
I recently read the whole Adventure Comics Digest books run which has a solid run of early LSH stories.
@flightringers18 күн бұрын
Those are great! (if your eyesight can handle it)
@Madbmberwhatbmbsatmidnight26 күн бұрын
What is Enid Coleslaw an anagram for?
@RobertAshton-z5z26 күн бұрын
Deni Slawcole.
@Akhnatom25 күн бұрын
I'm assuming you're asking for real so I'm gonna answer straight. Enid Coleslaw is an anagram for Daniel Clowes, the author of Ghost World. When you have a comic character with a name as weird as Enid Coleslaw it becomes instantly apparent that it's meant to be an anagram of something, in this case the creator himself. DC and Marvel comics used to pull this trick all the time with supervillains disguising their names and it was always painfully obvious and made the heroes look like complete idiots for not noticing. A character in a Superman comic called "Dr Holurt". Who could that possibly be?? There was an Avengers storyline with a politician called "Dell Rusk" and there was even a Legion issue with a mysterious guy called "Lord Romdur". I don't think I need to explain who any of those guys actually were.
@fad2323 күн бұрын
@Akhnatom I forgot that Enid Coleslaw was a scramble!
@keithbrown6887Ай бұрын
Blue Devil and Crisis were the impetus of my $40 a month DC dedication for six coming-of-age years. Sadly, those days are long gone. Now the extent of my budget is purchasing an overpriced Back to the Future poster. Flare, who possessed fiery (yawn) power, and Caress, who produced acid from her hands, were the replacements in the Fatal Five. I'm brainstorming here, but perhaps Giffen's drastic art change would be an interesting subject to talk about. Another enjoyable podcast, D&D.
@flightringers18 күн бұрын
We'll try to talk more about Giffen's art as we proceed!
@jonanjello10 күн бұрын
@@flightringers Yeah, I love all version of Giffen's artwork and enjoy hearing you both talk about his style.
@keithbrown6887Ай бұрын
I know almost nothing about the wedding issue, but BB gets a second chance at Starfinger, his Warbot, and a rebelling Onyx Guard in my story.
@cumberbatchpepperpotАй бұрын
Watching too much CNN?
@carlgibson285Ай бұрын
I kinda get the point that Gary J. Harris was making in regards to showing more of the Legion's involvement in Crisis. They wouldn't even have had to have any time travel in the story since the Anti-Monitor's anti-matter wave didn't just appear in the 20th century, it simultaneously appeared in all eras of the DC universe including the 30th century, and it almost destroyed the Legion's Earth (that's when Kid Psycho died) before the heroes in the past destroyed the Anti-Monitor's anti-matter cannon.
@brickrichbuildsАй бұрын
I want that pillow fight now, but only if everyone is wearing a teddy. The whole team. EVERYONE. I need Quislet flying around with a teddy hanging off him looking like a ghost.
@Akhnatom2 ай бұрын
That opening discussion about the Brown/Matt/Seth crew was great. Seth definitely seems like the less problematic of the trio. At least he didn't build a career out of indulging in his own sexual deviances and then writing about it. At least as far as I know.
@Aginor272 ай бұрын
One of the first notes in the Paying For It note section is that Dave Sim stopped considering Chester his friend after Chester wouldn't sign Sim's "I don't think Dave Sim is a misogynist" petition.
@carlgibson2852 ай бұрын
I blame Mike DeCarlo for the underwhelming art in this issue. When he became the regular inker on the Teen Titans I ended up dropping that title because his inks made even the legendary George Perez look bad.
@kidfantastic2 ай бұрын
Can't say that Mike Carlin got a wild hair up his ass about the Legion and made it Mark Waid's problem
@kidfantastic2 ай бұрын
Yeah these blue guys disappear pretty much after this first year as I recall. They don't come to anything.
@WilliamSims-fs5xs2 ай бұрын
Copy Boy?
@kidfantastic3 ай бұрын
I think she is supposed to be wearing an aerobic onesie under the jacket. Goes with the sweatband. Apparently Kieth saw a total babe rollerblading in this gear at like Long Beach or something and liked the look. I think its just supposed to show she has body confidence but also was prob fun to draw. I adore Laurel Gand.
@kidfantastic3 ай бұрын
I'd prefer to be called a Flight Ringo
@jonanjello3 ай бұрын
Gibbons sure can draw. His Legion style here -especially the women’s hair - gives vibes of Russ Manning. Did Manning ever do any LoSH art? Another excellent listen. Thanks, D&D.
@jonanjello3 ай бұрын
Fun to see that flyer. Brings back memories of frequenting shops and scooping up the free promos. The horseshoe-shaped building looks like the derelict space jockey ship from Alien.
@jonanjello3 ай бұрын
Regarding discovering Giffen's art - I was very impressed with his Perez style when I discovered LoSh issues when I was in junior high. When Giffen took on his Munoz style, I was in high school and unknowingly ready for more experimental-looking comics. March Hare, Hell on Earth, the Doctor Fate miniseries, and any guest-star issues in which he did the interior art were all insta-buys for me based on his artwork. Surely there's a Giffen checklist for interiors? I wasn't aware of that JLI issue with Suicide Squad. I'll need to hunt down a copy. Thanks for another great listen, guys.
@LostSoul5333 ай бұрын
I'm so glad I found this channel! I really thought that in this issue, some of those Rejects should really be considered. I love that Calorie Queen was brought back in the 5 Years Later story. I think the others just joined the Legion of Super Villains? Well, with the exception of Phantom Lad. Wonder if he was used again? Boy, a lot of the Legion villains all stem from being rejected by the Legion. I wonder if that was a strong reason for the formation of the Legion Academy. Not bad for a quick 11-page story!
@jonanjello3 ай бұрын
The cover, title page and more - I get a Dave Sim Cerebus vibe from this series.
@jonanjello3 ай бұрын
Chameleon boy's ears are gigantic. Very entertaining episode and listen, guys. Thanks!
@jonanjello3 ай бұрын
Very entertaining listen. Thanks, guys!
@jonanjello3 ай бұрын
1:15:32 to 1:17:50 - I agree! Also, I believe seeing or reading a memorable movie or book for the first time is a special and unique experience regardless of further multiple readings/viewing. Even if that first experience is flawed/misinterpreted, etc. Anyway, another excellent episode. I listened to this episode Saturday evening on the backyard patio while smoking an Aroma de Cuba cigar. It was a perfect evening. Thanks, gents.
@TensaiDragon3 ай бұрын
Loved this prestige format series, K.G doing some quality work, probably my fave writer/and artist in the early 90's, i started with this series and backtracked to tales and and original issues, and carried on with my legion obsession for many years after.. oh and i subbed! 1:07:07 **coughforeshadowingcough** lol
@jonanjello3 ай бұрын
This is my new favorite comic channel. I listen while working on my train graffiti books. Your guys are excellent. Love the conversation, humor and critiques of LoSh as well as Keith Giffen's art/storytelling. I wish more channels would focus on a series such as you two do and take the discussion thoughtfully and slowly as you both do. Bravo.
@flightringers3 ай бұрын
Thank you!! Really appreciate you sticking around!
@jonanjello3 ай бұрын
@@flightringers I mentioned the channel on a forum I frequent, and two members were very enthused and will be watching and listening.
@jonanjello3 ай бұрын
The narrative pages feel Cerebus-esque to me. I love listening to these issue-by-issue videos. I think I have these series in one of my many longboxes in the garage. Thanks, guys for another excellent listen.
@jonmcleary41923 ай бұрын
I love these issues so much. Radical and challenging great characters
@jonanjello3 ай бұрын
These issues were my first exposure to Keith Giffen's artwork. At the time, his style felt very much like George Perez and I loved both. I was about 14 years old and bought my friend's LoSh issues from him at about a dime a piece. Loved the artwork. I was in junior high at the time and when High school rolled around, Giffen went full-blown Jose Munoz with March Hare and Hell on Earth and I loved that style, too! Really enjoying your channel, guys. Thanks!
@jonanjello3 ай бұрын
Great listen while I work on train graffit books! I've always been a Keith Giffen fan. Rest in peace! You both interact incredibly well and casual. Thanks, guys.
@jonanjello3 ай бұрын
listening while I work on train graffiti books. Fun listen, great channel. Thanks, guys.
@tomprosser48233 ай бұрын
I spent an hour on this vid and i still don't know what this is about.😢
@flightringers3 ай бұрын
If part one didn't help, maybe dip your toe into part 2? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e9Sidqdl2JzDqZc.html
@keithbrown68873 ай бұрын
Another great review, D&D. Too bad this issue is a good example of a bad example on racism. You can't say DC didn't try, but maybe they could've hired some black writers at the time. I believe Marzal was updated as only revealing itself every 300 years, which still isn't a solution to total, absolute segregation. If all kinds of aliens are on Earth, then aren't all our people on their worlds too, including different races? Strangely enough Tyroc, along with a few dead Legionnaires, make a tangential appearance in my story when IKII (Jacques) is tripping balls on a mushroom and also under the murderous, egomaniacal influence of a cursed dagger. Dyno-Mite! Another parallel between this tale and mine is that I rename BB Ricochet, mostly because he isn't a boy anymore. Natch!
@keithbrown68873 ай бұрын
One of thee best Legion covers. For me, this is the death of Mon-El. Still trying to figure out that last symbol on the Subs. Visi-Lad?
@flightringers3 ай бұрын
I think that's Kid Quantum. It must've been tacked onto the end of the subs row because I ran out of space among the regular Legionnaires.
@keithbrown68873 ай бұрын
@@flightringers I don't think so because they're all pre-Crisis members and I see Comet Queen and KKII who were also on the second Subs team. Oh, well, not that important.
Hey, Dan & Dave, this issue is right when I collected LSH. I had the whole run of the Baxter series. Any chance of remaking these with the actual comic, similar to your present format? By the by, the Westerner is a member of the Legion Academy who can absorb other's powers temporarily.
@flightringers3 ай бұрын
Hey Keith -- these audio-only ones are kind of an aborted/failed experiment to try and get our older videos set up for the youtube podcast platform. They all should have a video counterpart farther back on the channel. LSH 27 is at kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jc56aqt0va-op4E.html
@keithbrown68873 ай бұрын
@@flightringers Thanks. That's much better with the visual. I don't understand why my algorithm didn't suggest it. All right, looking forward to the next video.
@brickrichbuilds3 ай бұрын
In the double-page spread with everyone, that's E. Nelson Bridwell in the glasses.
@MariNaomi3 ай бұрын
"related to john stewart" 😂
@Solitaire0013 ай бұрын
The reason they still used "Boy/Girl/Lad/Lass" names was explained in a story where they established that due to extension of life expectancy in the 30th Century. Due to that people in their 30s and 40s are still considered children.
@Solitaire0013 ай бұрын
The reason that Loomis lost his arm and Rokk lost his powers is due to a weapon that the Imskites deployed during the war. It turned the Brallians magnetic abilities against them. It caused them to either explode or stripped them of their magnetic abilities. Vi was sent to prison for objecting to the use of the weapon.
@jonanjello4 ай бұрын
Hello! I just discovered your channel. Always had a fondness for LoSH. I’m looking forward to exploring your channel. Thanks, guys!
@flightringers4 ай бұрын
Nice to have you aboard!
@keithbrown68875 ай бұрын
Hey, D&D! Dan and David/Dungeon & Dragons-- coinkadink? Thanx for giving me another free comic to read while you banter and espouse hilarious commentary. Another silly looking alien creature? Organus from Uranus? Levitz is great but what was he smoking? I was gladdened to see the Legionnaires playing D&D on their downtime. As you can tell I'm a huge fan. However, I don't think Brainy would have the slightest interest in playing games. Shouldn't he be curing viruses or something? True that D&D is mostly just storytelling with a few dice rolls thrown, but as a player you get amped when a battle starts. The long running joke "above table" is that a three hour walk takes five mins while a five minute battle takes three hours. Of course, if it's played online and computerized it's going to be loads faster in the 30th Century. I suggest you watch Critical Role if you want to watch gorgeous women roll the dice. If that's not your thing then there's also an animated Legend of Vox Machina series. Peace out! And... Long Live the Legion!
@keithbrown68875 ай бұрын
I only know Harlequin from the Teen Titans wedding issue and they didn't explain her parentage then either. Sasha at Casually Comics must have her theories about Harlequin. Check her out.
@SterlingFogg5 ай бұрын
Always wondered why they never had a "fallen Legionnaire" statue for Triplicate Girl, Duo Damsel's third body. I think this may have hit harder for Bouncing Boy and Duo Damsel and made the story better.
@keithbrown68873 ай бұрын
No memorial for the second body either. It's actually stated that if one Carggian body dies then they all die. That's a huge liability and imagine the life insurance policy!
@alexnejako7775 ай бұрын
it was cool when they gave Blok a new costume. he's one of the nicer Legionnares