5:22 I think the minimum cyclists should have is insurance. Personally I'm bothered a bout car tax (VED...Vehicle Excise duty in the UK) as the majority of them probably own a car so they do contribute to the roads, but I it should be mandatory for them to have insurance at the minimum. I saw a video the other day where an E Cyclist in London had run into the back of someones car, smashing the rear window and damaging the tailgate and yes you guessed it, he got up and rode off! Has for electric cars, they should pay car tax, especially when alot of them weight wise are pushing 3 ton.

You hit them in the hip pocket nerve, they don't want to pay, and they'll find every excuse they can. But they want safe cycle ways etc. I have this discussion with my son.

Keyboard trolls can just go forth and multiply, don't waste air on them.

Where I live in Arizona the bike lanes are a line painted on the road and cars are not meant to go into it, my biggest bug bear is that cyclists use that lane and cycle towards the traffic when they should be going in the same direction , they even painted arrows to show the cyclists how to use it, the plus is they are easy to hit unlike your lanes where you have to go across the grass to get to them. Isn't one of the major benefits of using a bike to get exercise and save the planet, if your dumb enough to have an electric bike you have defeated it's purposes.

In my city the roads are getting plugged with cars, so we need to incentivize alternative transport.

Classic straight talking ,you have the cars ,

What a moaning old C**T! - Clean your windscreen and that will improve road safety for everyone!

Council makes a mess of building a cycle lane, so this guy blames the cyclists and thinks they should pay. Newsflash buddy we all pay for roads, not just entitled car drivers.

If a car driver sees another car driver being a ####, he doesn't tar all other car drivers with the same brush; it's just that make of car, but if he sees a cyclist being a ####, all cyclists are blamed.

Why stop with cyclists? By your silly logic, why not charge pedestrians for using the road too? Meanwhile, E-scooters are clearly the future of urban transport.

Inching ever closer. I remember what you started with. Congratulations 🎉 Cheers 🍻 John. Thanks for stirring the 💩 with the spandex banana 🍌 hats 😂😂😂

This sounds an awful lot like I don't like cyclists because I drive a car. How much wear and tear is done to a road by cyclists when compared to motor vehicles? How much greater is the production of emissions from motor vehicles compared to cyclists? How many cyclists cause huge incidents on the highway requiring police, paramedic and police assistance. How many pedestrians and cyclists are knocked down every day by idiotic drivers who think that the road is theirs because it is nice and straight?

I disagree that cyclists should be paying for road use. A number of countries and administrative areas have had bicycle registration/licensing schemes in the past and have retired them. I invite you to check why these have failed to understand why this is a bad idea. The City of Toronto required bicycles be licensed from 1935 to 1957. According to a City of Toronto web page on the topic of bicycle licensing part of the reason given at the time for repealing the by-law was "because it often results in an unconscious contravention of the law at a very tender age; they also emphasize the resulting poor public relations between police officers and children." In the intervening years the idea of licensing bicycles again in Toronto has been investigated three times (in 1984, 1992, and 1996) and rejected each time. According to the city the major reasons why are: * The difficulty in keeping a database complete and current * The difficulty in licensing children, given that they ride bikes too * Licensing in and of itself does not change the behaviour of cyclists who are disobeying traffic laws The web page goes on to give more detail on these and other issues: Cost The cost of obtaining a license to drive a motor vehicle is considerable. Much of that cost covers the administrative costs of maintaining an accurate database, and processing licenses. The costs of developing a system for cyclists would be similar. When asked to consider such a move in the past, the Ministry of Transportation has rejected it. If cyclists were asked to cover the cost of licensing, in many cases, the license would be more expensive than the bicycle itself. Enforcement The discussions about cyclists and the law have raised the question about how we want our police to spend their time and limited resources. Do we want them checking up on and enforcing licenses, or do we want them enforcing traffic laws? Most people would argue that enforcing traffic laws is more worthwhile. Police who have been involved in the studies of licensing have determined that the HTA already gives them the necessary tools, such as Section 218, to do the enforcement job. Effectiveness In each of the above cases, major problems and difficulties arise in establishing a licensing system. The studies asked what is the goal that licensing cyclists is attempting to achieve? If the goal is to increase cyclists' compliance with traffic laws, and to reduce the number of conflicts with pedestrians and other road users, then licensing as an approach needs to be compared with other possible initiatives. Is the creation of the major bureaucracy that licensing would require worth it? The studies have concluded that licensing is not worth it. Other solutions: blitz enforcement of rules on riding on sidewalks, public awareness campaigns, skills training through CAN-BIKE, and the provision of bicycle-friendly facilities, such as bike lanes, while not perfect, are more effective in meeting the goals of cyclist compliance with traffic laws than the investment in licensing. Public policy considerations Concerns over cyclist compliance with traffic laws are real, and require ongoing attention. If, however, major investments are to be made by governments or by cyclists themselves, then the overall public policy goals behind that investment need to be addressed. For example, there is a strong public policy case to be made for licensing motor vehicle drivers. Hundreds of lives are lost each year because of motor vehicle crashes and collisions, and many thousands more are injured. Cyclists are involved in a smaller number of incidents, which must be addressed. However, given the benefits of cycling to health, the environment, and the community, on-going efforts to increase cycling compliance with traffic laws must be a part of an overall strategy to promote safe cycling. I agree with your points regarding poorly planned cycle paths. Cycling advocacy groups in some areas are working hard to correct stupidity at the planning stage. I have no idea why that couple were not both in the cycle path. Reasons for me not to use one are broken glass/debris recently encountered, poor surface, making a turn soon, or in the case of mixed-use paths, too many meandering pedestrians/joggers wearing headphones causing a safety hazard.

I bet when they built your car they didn't use kiddy measurements (CM/MM) they used REAL measurements. Don't you just love it when the damn light crap out just as you are filming !

Get yourself a bike and cool off . Great stress reliever as well.

Why? Roads are funded by general taxation, and we all pay for the roads whether we use them or not. Most cycle lanes aren't maintained and are also badly designed. Cyclists don't have to use a cycle lane, so no grey area whatsoever. Motornormativity in action. Cars damage roads, Cyclists don't.

How about simply putting all vehicle related taxation on fuel and ditch VED. Those who drive the most, pay as they drive, and the more efficient their vehicles are, the less they pay, and the less miles driven - the less they pay. The collection system is already there (fuel duty at the pump) and we can reduce the admin burden VED offers. Cyclists, pedestrians, horses and all road users would of course pay based upon fuel use and mileage covered. So many benefits and savings, Your are welcome.

most people that cycle drive a car and pay road tax you want to get some exersise get on a bike and you will understand bike lane are full of shitty path s that dont get cleaned and full of broken glass if you look when cars are coming out driveway they are crossing the path

I drive a car and pay vehicle excise duty. I also have a classic car and a bike and do not pay tax for either. The bike has far less impact than the classic car, despite the limited mileage of the classic car. I do agree that unrestricted electric bikes and scooters should be registered for use on the road and be insured like any other motor vehicle.

They definitely need insurance. E-scooters are new world order garbage. Very attractive for delinquent youth.

You'll be shocked when you find out that tourists can rent a two tonne car and drive it through 'your roads' - just imagine how much more damage that would do than a 10kg eScooter!

I agree with you, might not be popular but you are correct, I have always said anything that is on the road should have to have road tax and an mot and insurance, everything cycles, caravans, trailers of any description, if its got wheels or tracks it should have all those things

Hi Dave . Your not going to die of boredom with this little tinker ! Great progress !

Looking good Dave.

You want kids to pay taxes because they bike to school?? And most likely the older ones already pay road taxes. Stop crying about it..

Idiot. I'm a cyclist AND a driver, like every other cyclist I know. We all pay our dues. Anyone who thinks having cyclists paying road tax will suddenly result in snooker table level roads is an idiot. So, instead of perpetuating this government and media created division between different groups of road users, what ALL road users need to do is come together, stand as one, slam our local MP's favourite heads against the nearest wall and give them 5 minutes to explain just exactly where all the existing motoring taxes disappear to. Because more than sufficient motoring taxation is raised for us to genuinely have the finest roads in the world. As to enforcement, that's an issue of those overpaid public sector clowns that laughingly call themselves 'police' failing to do their job. Probably because their beating up white working class types somewhere.

I'm a cyclist and a higher rate tax payer so unless you are as well, I'd just as soon you said thank you and fecked your litte self off. Go on, off you waddle,

Unhealthy by choice/obese people should be paying a premium when they need to use the NHS. 👀

Just wondering how much did it take to get the car done cheers

There are lots of petrol and diesel cars that pay zero road tax because they officially emit less than 120g/km of carbon dioxide and were registered when this gave them eligibility for zero tax. Should these also now pay road tax?

nurse he's out of bed again ??? and FWITS like you not be allowed to drive ??? Go F yourself ????

cast your mind back. Did you ride a bike as a kid ?. what's going to happen then. sorry little one you cannot have a bike you hadn't got insurance and tax. get real .

who is going to administer that. one place this is done North Korea.

Sorry but this sounds so stupid you sound like a proper Karen

Can you tell me how much car related tax you pay so I can work out how many inches of the road network you've paid for.

Bike lanes are there to make it safer for cyclists, I hate bus lanes, it allows one bus to use a stretch of road while all other traffic gets backed up and pollutes, We are all trying to get somewhere, why do buses have a priority, makes no sense to me, years ago there were no bus lanes and non of us died, its insane to spend that much money on a road surface for one type of vehicle. This shows how smart the national and local governments are, so wasteful as always.

Don't get me started on E bikes, I see kids of 9-10 and up on these electric bikes/scooters that drive on the street like they own it, No drivers test, no road sense at all and no insurance, cutting into traffic and very likely to cause an accident, how do we claim off these kids? The world has gotten insane with all these cheap Chinese death traps, Watch Auto Expert John Cadagons recent video on E Bikes lithium batteries and get educated.

Motor vehicles that cause virtually all the damage that our road, but the cost to repair that damage comes out of the council tax that cyclists, pedestrians and motorists have to pay equally. It is about time that motorists should pay a surcharge on their council tax to use the roads so that pedestrians and cyclists no longer have to subsidise the motorist.

Motorist and cyclist here, I must say you come across at the stereotypical "roads are for cars only" kind of bloke. In theory however, I'm not a 100% against your point to have cyclists take out insurance. I personally have insurance through the cycling federation as well as a private one on my bike. Here is the thing though, governments across Europe are trying to get people out of their cars and onto bikes, because it makes people healthier (less strain on the health services, the data is pretty clear here.) AND it frees up the roads for motorists who really need to use their car to get around. Think about how many people are using cars for a 5km commute, which could easily be covered with a bicycle, probably faster than with a car during peak traffic. Now imagine if a decent chunk of these people started riding bikes to work. You don't think that would actually ease up the traffic jams? You don't want there to be a barrier of entry, in the end for under 18's it's often the only means of transportation. Where I do agree, is that cyclists should be stopped by the police when committing a serious violation of the traffic code. I myself, while not perfect, always try to follow the rules. (The thing is though that many motorists don't know what is allowed for cyclists so THINK we break rules while we're actually not, obviously not talking about crossing red lights etc.). Finally, as a cyclist who does pretty well with following the rules, I get overtaken at least once per commute within mere inches, some drivers seem to do it on purpose to scare us. Very funny until it goes wrong and leads to serious injury... Videos like yours fuels the anti-cyclist narrative that too many motorists have. Let's look at the numbers, motorists killed by cyclists? 0, cyclists killed by motorists (in Ireland): 9 + 216 seriously injured.

Based on weight and engine power perhaps?

I got 2 cars. both pay tax etc on. If I'm not riding. my bike then I'm driving my car... is that ok? cos my bike does no damage to the road, it doesnt poison passers by like cars do. additionally if I'm on my bike cos its faster to get to town on , piss around finding a park and paying for it.. even better it makes me personally healthier and less lardy. :D

Roads are paid for by income tax. Most people pay income tax, therefore most cyclists already pay for the roads they use. Here's an idea (seeing as you've got a pack of cigarettes on display) - How about smokers paying more tax for when they need the NHS to help pay for smoking related illnesses? I appreciate you're not in the UK, but the same principle should still apply. Latest figures show 74000 smoking related deaths in 2019, compared to 16000 cycling related deaths in the same period in the UK. Let's rant about smokers!

And pedestrians should pay, and people pushing prams should pay, and people riding scooters, skateboards, and pushing shopping trolleys should pay. People wearing backpacks should pay, people with bad haircuts and ugly shoes should pay. Of course, bariatric surgery and treatment for diabetes, and other sedentary related diseases should be free.

He also talks of registration for ID in the event of an accident. By this reckoning, every pedestrian should have a road registration as well.

Interesting commentary during the car drive of "and it's not even being used". We'll, other than his car, neither was the road itself.

We all know that different countries are in different stages of development. In upcoming industrialisation (or economy’s) labourers use push bikes, Vespas or light motorcycles for transport. The next phase is when labourers can afford to own a car. This is the phase in which the UK is in and also many countries in the EU. In this phase cycling is considered a sign of poverty or as a menace to car drivers Countries like the Netherlands and Denmark are in the 3rd phase. There is a good cycling infrastructure, independent from roads used by cars. Posh people buy expensive push bikes to show off. Cycling is seen as a solution to traffic congestion and pollution by combustion engines. Just that you know 🤣

I pay ved and insurance on both my cars. I treat cyclists and pedestrians as first class road users and I cycle as a first class road user. Sometimes I wish cyclists could be held accountable (registration mark) but rarely. Your claim that cyclists get away with stuff that motorists would be fined for doesn't good though, this is just a bias. If you go out looking for motor vehicle transgressing you see it EVERYWHERE. You could take heart though that your attitude "make them use the cycle paths" is the attitude of the motorists in the Netherlands that drove their world class cycling infra.

Nah you're definitely onto something here. And pedestrians need to be registered, stick a numberplate to their chests, buy walking insurance and pay footpath tax too. And while we're at it if you're mugged you should have to pay the police to respond. And pay for the fire brigade to put your house out. Because the more user-pays systems we create the better, right?

E scooters are not dangerous its the user thats the problem not heard so much uninformed rubbish spouted for a long time id delete this crap if i were you

get the rich to pay, god knows tory has gifted them enough of OUR billions !