B&T Rotex X SF vs Surefire Rc2
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@chaoticcaninejb
@chaoticcaninejb 2 күн бұрын
Question, compared to surefire cans is your rotex hub a bitch to turn and take off? Mine feels like its carbon locked even brqnd new never shot it. Tested it for alignment on all my guns and boy what a bitch it was every time to come off.
@FD-gc1yp
@FD-gc1yp 16 күн бұрын
I was hoping your dumb ass was gonna trim it. I bet your explanation of a shorter tube cycling and causing it to break the seal and relieving excess pressure made sense to someone out there in a hillbilly backwoods sort of way. You would’ve had people throwing away their adjustable gas blocks with your amazing discovery 😂
@marshalleng1933
@marshalleng1933 22 күн бұрын
Polo K taking names!
@surviveautodafe
@surviveautodafe 2 ай бұрын
how goes the new Rotex K can compare to this group?
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 2 ай бұрын
We will know if they EVER SHIP THEM OUUUUUT! But we do have one set aside from our order to absolutely abuse and compare to others.
@bobbyberry5559
@bobbyberry5559 3 ай бұрын
Safety is 0/10 Wtf you doing with all that gear on and walking in front of a loaded rifle. Gives 2A people a bad rep.
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 3 ай бұрын
Did you just shine up your Internet RSO badge? It'll be fine I promise you. (Everything was fine). Wait until you check out an overhead range.
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 3 ай бұрын
You carry on an empty chamber? Whete does that muzzle go all day....
@CRUMB831
@CRUMB831 3 ай бұрын
Ok, so show me how to shorten a carbine to a pistol length. I'm not a Dum Dum trying to do what you did. I'm just trying to see, if one, can really accomplish the feat! Show me that video! Your 89th subscriber demands production!!! You'll thank me later! #89
@lobster8009
@lobster8009 4 ай бұрын
Never thought of the Rotex of beeing a budget option. It costs more than double of what all the other AR compatible supressors cost here in Germany. Its a cherry red full auto rated monster made from thermax and inconel in switzerland. How can this be the budget option and what the hell are competitors thinking trying to mess with B&T. This thing eats belt after belt on a machinegun while beeing best in class in sound suppression and muzzle signature suppression.
@easbreid9879
@easbreid9879 4 ай бұрын
They now make B&T suppressors in the USA. Same materials just made here instead of over there. I just saw this can for $549 US. They did an interview like a year ago where they said "we are gonna manufacture in the US and end up taking over the market". They also said we will offer suppressors cheaper than anyone else at the same quality. They were telling the truth, its crazy. 🤌🤙👌
@a.joegevara3519
@a.joegevara3519 17 күн бұрын
Not doubting the Rotex quality. But Surefire kind of sets the standard by supplying the US military. I think the big news here, is now it has the option to mount on surefire muzzle devices. In the past few months Surefire SOCOM RC2 have become extremely hard to find.
@griffinyerian5856
@griffinyerian5856 4 ай бұрын
Great video. Appreciate the range of barrel lengths and clear audio. Keep it up
@jimhutton4183
@jimhutton4183 5 ай бұрын
promo sm 😭
@tygoulding2547
@tygoulding2547 5 ай бұрын
That was a waste..
@dannygeorgejr
@dannygeorgejr 6 ай бұрын
Vance. What energies do those crystals help with? - signed: concerned MTS Admin
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 5 ай бұрын
That idk. You got some selenite, amethyst, a piece of the moon is inside that little lockit (yes it tastes like gunpowder when you lick it). I don't remember what the others are.
@andy3157
@andy3157 6 ай бұрын
What mount are you running to get the polo k on the sf 3 prong? I’m trying to decide between an RC2 and the polo K and cant make up my mind, what’s your thoughts on both? It’s going on a 13.9 for context
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 6 ай бұрын
Polo k 100%. We have a shorefyer mount which idk if they'll be made again. Or take a warden and send it to Ecco machine to convert to a hub mount (used in this video). The SF k is loud, flashy, and costs 2x as much. Those who love their SF k also invested a lot of time and money into the suppressor. So they'll say whatever they can to convince themselves they like it. But the performance of the SF k is extremely underwhelming compared to the Polo k.
@andy3157
@andy3157 6 ай бұрын
@@vancedosanta5385 I was thinking the full size RC2 not the mini
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 5 ай бұрын
@andy3157 we've had Rc2's, my co owner has ran SF for years. Since we got the Rotex X 556 SF, the Surefires have all left and aren't coming back unless a special order. Their price is inflated out the ass, the mount sticks unlike the rotex (so far, we are about 5k rounds in on one, 2k on another). Sound and flash suppression was less on the Rotex as well (first round flash was a hair bigger following shots had no flash. Where the Rc2 maintained flash every round.) The Rc2 isn't a bad suppressor. But it was released in 2015 and still priced like its about to drop for the first time next week. We can get whatever folks want. And help them out. But getting behind these, the Rc2 is fading into the past.
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 5 ай бұрын
@andy3157 polo k, Rotex x sf, or if you can ditch that whole concept and want ultimate sound suppression, an OCM5 is by far the quietest 556 suppressor I've handled. Granted, it can be gassy. Now that can be mitigated by proper tuning (buffer weight, enhanced bcg with modified cam path to delay unlocking, charging handle? *50/50 on reviews with that. I think they do SOMETHING, But slapping one in by itself won't magically fix gas to the face.)
@pescad0
@pescad0 4 ай бұрын
Did you notice a difference in feel on the RC3 with brake vs FH?
@Clockwork0nions
@Clockwork0nions 7 ай бұрын
The ROTEX lineup has the same track record as the Surefire cans. The same design has been in use in European forces for decades.
@Hustler_state
@Hustler_state 7 ай бұрын
They've been around in Europe military for a long time. Essentially very similar to a sf just several hundred dollars cheaper now tht they are here in the states. You can get em for 600iah where sf stuff is 1k they have a nice line up as well
@fivedotfivesix59
@fivedotfivesix59 8 ай бұрын
Why would anyone choose either one of these heavy / gassy / outdated cans in 2023 ?
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 7 ай бұрын
If you think 17oz is heavy, you must have noodle arms. You use ti? That's cool. But your suppressor sparks like the 4th of July.
@fivedotfivesix59
@fivedotfivesix59 7 ай бұрын
@@vancedosanta5385 I must have noodle arms because I wouldn't choose either of two heavy/outdated cans? Let me guess just throw a BrT gAs tUbe, or discontinued sF BcG in it and it'll be fine. 🤡... We get it You're trying to push b&t cans, but it's 2023 and the industry has moved on. Ocl, RC3, prt, flowK, etc.
@Briathos1
@Briathos1 6 ай бұрын
I’m with you, if someone thinks a can is too heavy I’d say start working out your upper body a bit more? I am concerned about the gas blowback being a lefty. I already have right handed uppers so I’m looking at the B&T RBS 5.56….any experience with those? There’s no way in hell I’m paying SF $1,700 for an RC3.
@fivedotfivesix59
@fivedotfivesix59 6 ай бұрын
@@vancedosanta5385 did I say I use titanium anywhere in this thread? And why would you choose a 17 oz can when there's lighter / better options, with better performance.
@fivedotfivesix59
@fivedotfivesix59 6 ай бұрын
@@Briathos1 You're completely missing the point. Nobody's saying I'm not strong enough to use a 17 OZ can... I'm saying there's no reason for a can to weigh 17 oz in 2024. 3D printing has changed the game, and traditional baffle cans are a thing of the past. Ask people like Solomon from rooftop defense, or Travis Haley why they switched from RC2s to alternatives like hux cans? It's not because they weren't strong enough to carry 17 oz can.
@TMJ937
@TMJ937 8 ай бұрын
Nice dude! Best of the best 👍🏼
@abolishtheatfandrepealthen6963
@abolishtheatfandrepealthen6963 8 ай бұрын
Good info I really appreciate you taking the time to go over these with me. In detail
@thatoneguy454c
@thatoneguy454c 8 ай бұрын
B&T is one of the oldest and most trusted silencer/supressor manufacturers. They have been around way longer than surefire. Both make excellent shush toobs
@lytening79
@lytening79 3 ай бұрын
"Shush toobs" . . . lololol. I've been buying silencers (and reading about them) for almost a decade now and I've never heard that term. Thanks for this.
@thatoneguy454c
@thatoneguy454c 3 ай бұрын
@@lytening79 you are welcome
@jamesstephenson2346
@jamesstephenson2346 Ай бұрын
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@tommyd4548
@tommyd4548 8 ай бұрын
I almost spit beer all over my phone 😂😂😂 Afuckingplus brother
@MydicHertz
@MydicHertz 9 ай бұрын
Disappointing.. I thought this was gonna be one of those videos where someone slaps the muzzle of a loaded gun and it goes off. ☹️
@miasanmia2519
@miasanmia2519 9 ай бұрын
How was the gas blow back on the b&t? Notice any difference between the two?
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 9 ай бұрын
Back pressure Is the same on both. Hard to tell which was more
@GuacIsExtra99
@GuacIsExtra99 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for testing these I had no idea there were other options for surefire muzzle devices
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 9 ай бұрын
If you have any questions. Feel free to reach out on vbd-retail.com and hit the contact us button. Our Site is currently getting a makeover, so in a few weeks it will be a lot cleaner. We can supply over 25 suppressor mfg's to fit whatever your needs are. Many of our products aren't currently listed, so if you don't see it, just ask.
@RxTx88
@RxTx88 9 ай бұрын
Awesome info brother...
@GriffXJ
@GriffXJ 9 ай бұрын
I'd love to see an in-depth review of that Rotex, you can't beat it at that price either. Where did you get yours? I can't find any in-stock anywhere
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 9 ай бұрын
Hit the contact us button on Vbd-retail.com and I'll get in touch with you. We deal with over 28 brands of suppressors. And gain nothing from promoting one over the other. This was purely just based off of our results (Ben in the video) has a handful of SF's and we were expecting the Rotex to be the "Sf at home" but it surprised us. Don't mind how the site looks. We have a new one being built. Our current site doesn't reflect our business well at all.
@JoeR511
@JoeR511 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. What muzzle device are you running on that rifle?
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 9 ай бұрын
That was a SF 3 prong. We have yet to try the B&T closed tine. But will I'm due time. If you ever want to contact us. Hit the contact us button on vbd-retail.com and we can help you out. (Ignore the site quality and pricing. We are getting it re worked and updated). Contacting us directly is the best option
@cops312
@cops312 10 ай бұрын
The B&T Rotex isn’t new, being used in Europe by the military for a long time now and proven track record. It’s only new to the US market since they are being produced here now. Great video by the way.
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 9 ай бұрын
Well the X isn't the V. And the SF X has a 20% reduced weight. So while very similar. The X is newer. Rotex in general has been around a while. But there's many variants.
@a.joegevara3519
@a.joegevara3519 17 күн бұрын
The big news is the Surefire mount!
@kronicole6875
@kronicole6875 10 ай бұрын
Nice, flagged yourself multiple times, then put your hand in front of the barrel, lmao
@awesomeopossum4632
@awesomeopossum4632 10 ай бұрын
Cry about it
@kronicole6875
@kronicole6875 10 ай бұрын
@@awesomeopossum4632 im not the one thats gonna ND myself😂
@awesomeopossum4632
@awesomeopossum4632 10 ай бұрын
@@kronicole6875 neither are they, dweeb
@luckygunnerx30
@luckygunnerx30 10 ай бұрын
Itll be okay
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 10 ай бұрын
Itll be fine. Your comment has been noted. And you will be awarded an Internet RSO badge.
@insaneclown158
@insaneclown158 10 ай бұрын
Thanks guys. I want a sure fire but being poor im looking other cheaper options. The video helped
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 10 ай бұрын
Glad we could help. On October 6th we will be testing it's Flash Vs the Rc2. I have no doubt in my mind it will perform well in the dark
@ATFisGay
@ATFisGay 10 ай бұрын
First
@tedbaxter5234
@tedbaxter5234 9 ай бұрын
Congratulations, the crowning achievement of your lackluster life.
@freeman8745
@freeman8745 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, there is a suppressor under that roll haha
@LovesM855A1
@LovesM855A1 Жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂👍🏻🤘🏻
@mt_shoots8918
@mt_shoots8918 Жыл бұрын
i love the fact your using a wrench and not a hammer
@pedal2dametal686
@pedal2dametal686 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love science
@tedking6790
@tedking6790 Жыл бұрын
First comment wooooo
@boogietunt6862
@boogietunt6862 Жыл бұрын
And now we know
@keredsmada6
@keredsmada6 Жыл бұрын
Pennsyltuckey gets cold 🥶 train like you fight
@johnwestervelt7454
@johnwestervelt7454 2 жыл бұрын
Ummm you by law and ATF policy have to have a licensed individual perform your finger prints.
@vancedosanta5385
@vancedosanta5385 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@declineofthewest.
@declineofthewest. 3 ай бұрын
I ❤ Fudds
@tedking6790
@tedking6790 2 жыл бұрын
Apology accepted
@tedking6790
@tedking6790 2 жыл бұрын
Fabtastic this is the content KZfaq desperately needs