@@trocomposition4216what kind of piano is shown in starting of the video? I know it's Yamaha, but is it console or upright?
@dannuttle900511 күн бұрын
I understood fairly well at the start, then got lost in details. But I now know more about the fugue than I did before.
@waiminkhant602214 күн бұрын
You have the best explanation to how to write a fugue without making it sounds difficult.
@trocomposition421612 күн бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! I appreciate it 👍
@InsaneCarville15 күн бұрын
Countless arrangements I've been listening to for a few months and couldn't put my finger on why I loved it so much... until NOW. Thank you so much for doing this!
@trocomposition421615 күн бұрын
You’re very welcome!
@ban9nas17717 күн бұрын
“Technique only has value when it serves an end that transcends the means” How beautifully said! Thank you for this wonderful video dear sir. This piece lives in a deep place within my heart.
@trocomposition421616 күн бұрын
Many thanks! ☺️
@athishayjain.m.k925720 күн бұрын
Lovely ❤❤❤
@felixelliott856427 күн бұрын
The way you talk about music is amazing! I love how your not just focusing on the harmonic and melodic features etc (though incredibly detailed and useful) but also the effects it has which is fascinating. Most valuable music analysis out there thank you. Currently watching all your analysis' to get inspiration for my A level composition.
@trocomposition421627 күн бұрын
Thanks, Felix! Good luck for the A-Level 💪👍
@hz3701Ай бұрын
Your background has a slight flicker that triggers seizures, but the content is great
@dn393939Ай бұрын
Amazing analysis - can not wait to have more videos like this. Thank you!
@trocomposition4216Ай бұрын
Thank you! ☺️
@churnyeechong2427Ай бұрын
Big thanks for this channel! I've learned a lot as a beginner.
@trocomposition4216Ай бұрын
Great to hear! ☺️
@passionyu1309Ай бұрын
Great!
@churnyeechong2427Ай бұрын
Useful video. But would be more helpful if you teach us HOW to construct countersubjects, episodes and transitions after the subject; WHY and HOW they need to be written in certain ways or intervals to conserve the harmonies of all the voices.
@trocomposition4216Ай бұрын
Thanks! Maybe a good subject for another video 👍
@treesnyАй бұрын
Thank you for a wonderfully clear and illuminating analysis! And also for avoiding any programmatic interpretation -- my feeling is that had Liszt intended to limit the scope of the piece to a particular scenario, he would have said something about it to someone else at some point. I feel you are quite correct to hear the Sonate as a process between Light and Darkness, the two polar opposites of the composer's makeup... many of Liszt's works explore this terrain in one way or another, though never in such a concise and densely packed form.
@trocomposition4216Ай бұрын
Agreed! 😊
@jamesmitchell6925Ай бұрын
10:22 measure 4 “IV dorian” doesn’t have a major third (F#). I think you mean mixolydian.
@jamesmitchell6925Ай бұрын
Mix flat six?
@trocomposition4216Ай бұрын
Hi James. Thanks for watching! Remember the Answer is schematised in A minor here, so the F# is the 6th in A Dorian and chord IV is Major (derived from A Dorian) rather than the more common minor iv (derived from harmonic minor). There are plenty of other ways of schematising it, but this section of the video was focusing on the contrast in key between Subject and Answer, so this analysis focuses on that element.
@lightmineraider36972 ай бұрын
This piece has been close to my heart for some time and I really enjoyed your brilliant analysis, thank you so much! I am amazed by Schubert's genius again and again
@trocomposition4216Ай бұрын
Likewise!
@Sriram575752 ай бұрын
Sir, I am a student particularly interested in the New Formenlehre. I would like to know if you teach music theory & composition for students like me, sir.
@trocomposition4216Ай бұрын
Hi! I’m not currently teaching, I’m afraid, but I wish you the best with your New Formenlehre studies! 👏
@Sriram575752 ай бұрын
Is it true that Liszt's Sonata was inspired by Schubert's Wanderer Fantasy ?
@trocomposition42162 ай бұрын
It is! There’s an analysis of Liszt’s B minor Sonata on my channel too, if you’re interested 👍
@Sriram575752 ай бұрын
@trocomposition4216 I have already seen it, and I am always thankful to you for that !
@legron1212 ай бұрын
I really appreciate you making this very insightful analysis! I like your interpretation of the ending as the forces of darkness (deprived of their strength and threat) leaving the stage one by one.
@trocomposition42162 ай бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate the kind words ☺️
@tuanpiccusgaming35552 ай бұрын
If someone played this, I would have thought Bach had written it. It is very well written. Ever since I was a teenager, I have loved the form of fugue in music and even attempted to compose a couple of fugues (terrible ones) myself. This video explains a lot about how they are stuck together. Should I pick up my pencil again?
@trocomposition42162 ай бұрын
Yes! Time to get writing again! 👍
@Sriram575752 ай бұрын
I actually have to thank you a lot for posting this. A detailed analysis of the sonata is really difficult to be done. I really appreciate your effort; not many people have such knowledge 💯
@trocomposition42162 ай бұрын
Thank you! Really glad you found it useful.
@shanehagan2 ай бұрын
I loved your explanation and examples of motivic integration and musical logic. Thank you for this terrific and insightful video. Subscribed.
@trocomposition42162 ай бұрын
Many thanks! ☺️
@nathaniellevy79562 ай бұрын
Thank you for the terrific analysis of this piece. Incredibly thorough and very useful. If I may make one suggestion, please feel free to play the sections you're discussing more often, even twice. It's always helpful to the brain to put the words right next to the phrases you're discussing.
@trocomposition42162 ай бұрын
Thanks! Noted for next time 👍
@kengwi2 ай бұрын
I love music and can sort of play the piano but I'm not a scholar and this is just perfect in being accessible yet also providing information that makes more sense to someone who has studied music. I have listened to this piece a lot lately and spotted motifs and some order but your interpretation is marvelously clarifying.
@trocomposition42162 ай бұрын
That’s great to hear! Thanks ☺️
@pedrod.75763 ай бұрын
What a well thought out video. Thanks for sharing!
@trocomposition42163 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@aeroslothy3 ай бұрын
Subscribed! Would you please cover an analysis on Rachmaninoff's 2nd Piano Concerto? Thanks!
@trocomposition42163 ай бұрын
Will put it on the list! 👍
@aeroslothy3 ай бұрын
Brilliant explanation and contribution to Liszt's masterpiece!
@trocomposition42163 ай бұрын
Many thanks!
@pabloziffer3 ай бұрын
link to video of analysis 1 is not working what happened? thanks
@trocomposition42163 ай бұрын
Hi! I’ve made the analysis of Contrapunctus I private as I want to make a couple of edits, but as I haven’t had time yet I’ll make it public again for a while 👍
@jh56943 ай бұрын
It's a treat to see Bach's handiwork up close like this✨
@harmonicamick9083 ай бұрын
Thank you for such an informative, brilliant video. As with other videos on music theory that I have found, I expect that yours will save many people a great deal of time when trying to understand the often dense and, in my view, overly verbose explanations given in so many text books. If one subject needs the kind of treatment given here, it surely must be the fugue.
@trocomposition42163 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad you found it helpful ☺️
@LeojTeduacHPiecesprorgue4 ай бұрын
This is the best video on the subject!!!!
@trocomposition42164 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! 😊
@miroslavjencek89674 ай бұрын
Very interesting explanation. Thank you very much! And I think as well, the conclusion of this masterpiece is meant to be positive (and is not the sign of resignation) - the "piano" at the end only reflects the same "piano" at the very beginning... But I am just humble listener.. :)
@hugoclarke32844 ай бұрын
After modelling a few more simple fugues on Bach in this manner, the trick then is to get creative and let your mind take you where it will. That's the only way to truly write a Bach fugue.
@vincentedelmond54044 ай бұрын
You are reading the notes that's fine all pieces are written by notes where is the music can you repeat just 2 bars wile you are taking a bath?one way hi way boring chromatic scales four fingers arpeggios this is an exercise not a musical piece
@vyrixxa4 ай бұрын
Amazing! Thank you so much!
@trocomposition42164 ай бұрын
You're very welcome! ☺️
@julienpark69204 ай бұрын
this is what I looked for,! you are the real music youtuber!
@AaronAndrewHunt4 ай бұрын
A student of mine directed me to your video, asking my opinion, so I've taken a look, and if you don't mind, I'd like to give you some constructive feedback. Firstly, making a video as you've done takes a very long time and represents a huge amount of work. Your presentation is mostly quite clear, so in that regard, well done! The title of your video might be better "How *I composed* a work ..." as your method obviously isn't the only option, but I understand you want to attract as many viewers as possible. In terms of your composition being "in the style of Bach", you've done well to model your piece after his, but there are some obvious issues, mostly to do with playability, but also in the counterpoint itself, which keep your work from being stylistically on target. Bach avoids hand stretches larger than a 9th, allows minor 10ths only very occasionally. You've written not only many awkward 10ths in each hand, but also entirely unplayable passages (measures 36 and 38). Bach doesn't require the hands to leap awkwardly as you've written in measure 30. There are other clumsy moments here and there throughout, mostly to do with doublings and suspensions. Otherwise it's not bad. If you'd like to try to better approach Bach's style, I've made a list of things you will want to improve: m.7 LH 10ths m.9 root pos. dim. with an accented tritone m.13 alto enters on a unison (the D is already sounding in the tenor) m.15 awkward bass leap on the 8th to a doubled LT, bare tritone m.18 RH 10ths, ornamented 4th on the tenor when the same note is sustained in the bass m.20 doubled 3rd, m6 suspended against root position triad (5th normally wouldn't be there) m.30 RH 10ths, awkward leaping hands, awkward leap to root position diminished triad on beat 4 m.31 suspended 4th over resolved 3rd, beat 2 clumsy 8th (simply add a 16th) m.32 same clumsy 8th m.35 beat 3 harmony unclear (too much is suspended) m.36 is unplayable m.37 A and Eb would not both suspend here; either Eb resolves to D or A resolves to G, this measure is nearly unplayable (extremely awkward) m.38 another suspended 4th over resolved 3rd, then 10ths in both hands, beat 3 is unplayable m.40 RH 10th m.41 LH 10th m.43 clumsy 16ths rhythm, 10ths in both hands m.44 unnecessary rest on 4 in tenor m.45 the major arrival is too clean (Bach usually used an augmented harmony), the alto wouldn't repeat the LT m.46 soprano shouldn't step up to a bare 5th on beat 3 There are other issues in your video: 4:43 similar motion to a 5th in two parts in the first bar, implied similar motion to an octave in the second bar 1:13 Your claim that the AoF "was intended as a pedagogical aid" is pure speculation; ... 1:25 likewise your ideas about "what Bach is telling us" with the first fugue of the AoF. The bit about the subject not needing to work in stretto or be invertible with a countersubject seems from one angle logical enough, but is a bit ironic given that the AoF subject does all those things better than any other fugue subject in history. 7:20 Regarding the tonal answer: other cases are more complex, this one is simpler than you've presented it: the dominant note in the subject changes to the tonic note in the answer. That's all! I could go on, but the remaining points are minor. In any case, I'm happy to see you making the effort to do something like this, and I hope you'll consider addressing the above issues! Best Regards, AAH
@trocomposition42164 ай бұрын
Hi Aaron. Thanks for taking the time to bring your expertise to this! I really appreciate it. Looking forward to going through all these points in detail after the holidays ☺️👍
@ros87374 ай бұрын
Don’t worry. There’s nothing wrong with the title. The composition is a list of examples of important components and is audibly pleasant enough. Any remarks on playability are wasted as a fugue could be written for a quartet even if a simple piano sound is chosen for a clean demonstration purpose. AAH excessive input displays the very reason for why few people even bother with the fugue, while this video is inspiring and will have me start right away. Well done!
@konst18873 ай бұрын
It might not be playable on harpsichord but I would like to give it a try on the organ. I will send you the audio if I can manage to do so :)
@AndreasMartinLaute5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this wonderful explanation. I’ve been listening to this masterpiece of human genius since my early childhood now being a lutenist mainly performing works for the Renaissance lute but also the few pieces Bach wrote for the Baroque Lute. I particularly like your last statement of your video concerning the “means”. You have a new subscriber - all best wishes! Andreas Martin, Lute & Guitar
@trocomposition42165 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, Andreas! It means a lot ☺️🙏
@jcr35005 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@davegmusicchannel5 ай бұрын
love it
@user-yz3mq9qb6o5 ай бұрын
Nice coda in your video btw. Congrats.
@donaldaxel5 ай бұрын
This is how lectures at Music Theory at university and Music-Schools should be presented, clear, easy, keep it simple. I need to read the subtitles [cc] along with watching and listening, and it is sadly obvious how unclear pronunciation results in unbearable errors in the transcript. It is possible to correct transcript, and perhaps a student would help doing that at some time. The video is too valuable to suffer from such minor inconveniences.
@trocomposition42165 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! I need to start giving more attention to subtitles 👍
@eddieandmaxie5 ай бұрын
My favorite sonata! Makes me feel powerful in a way i can’t comprehend. I want to learn it 1 day but im not that capable of that level yet 😢 anyways great video!
@Sr.Rakthai6 ай бұрын
Thanks, it is very helpful. I would like to view your approach with a stretto setting.
@albarylaibida12146 ай бұрын
I was eagerly awaiting this video. Bravissimo! 👏👏👏
@trocomposition42166 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it! Hope you found it useful 👍
@tan69186 ай бұрын
Very well analyzed. I agreed with you on 99.99%. 😊 Only 2 suggestion. 479 viewed as an extended bar from 478, codetta for more significant appearance. Final line 6/4 chord is to showcase the negative dark side C natural here as a flatten supertonic chord finally resolve into the big B natural hence avoid root B before the final bar, and therefore 100% positive power.
@roberthubbard56966 ай бұрын
This is just what I have been looking for! AoF is my favorite musical piece but I wanted to understand why it is so deeply moving. I’m not a musician but your analysis gets even to me. Wonderful, unique, and very much appreciated!!
@trocomposition42166 ай бұрын
Really glad you to hear that! 😊
@zamyrabyrd6 ай бұрын
I am just looking at the last frame of the score with the mysterious descending scale, neither fish nor fowl. If it weren't for the D#, it would be Phrygian. I always had the intuition that the cryptic scales in the beginning and end hold important keys to analysis but I haven't made the effort to figure it out yet.
@zamyrabyrd6 ай бұрын
The diminished 7th in descent appears of course at the beginning of Beethoven's piano sonata, Op. 110 but also Chopin's Bb minor sonata.
@zamyrabyrd6 ай бұрын
Also another interesting descent at the beginning of a piece, the Db to C in the Funerailles, a larger interval but also dissonant, a minor 9th.
@xghhjmt7 ай бұрын
What a superb analysis! Keep it up! I would love to see an analysis on other large works such as Hammerklavier, Gaspard de la nuit, or Ives's Concord Sonata.