Great review I agree with everything you said .I could care a less about the integrate and Picatin.
@thomasvanderhoff76810 күн бұрын
1/4 inch draw and let off adjustment makes all the difference in world. The bow hold on target with that grip like no other.
@brosbeforebowshunting10 күн бұрын
Agreed!! Didn’t think that it would make that much difference until I could try it myself.
@thomasvanderhoff76810 күн бұрын
Just bought one and love it ,been shooting Mathew’s sence the mq1.
@brosbeforebowshunting10 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! I have been super impressed with the adjustability!!! Good luck in the woods this season!
@madman432000Ай бұрын
Where did you decide on the centershot? And how much did you adjust the SET to get it turned?
@brosbeforebowshuntingАй бұрын
Great questions! When I set up a bow these days I like to use a longer stabilizer and look down from the top of the bow on the limb bolts and line the arrow up with the stabilizer. This usually gets somewhere close to 3/16 off the riser. This gave me a slight right tear, with less than a quarter turn on the SET tech both top and bottom, we were shooting bullets. The SET tech is great ant the adjustability of the Ethos makes it a great choice for just about every type of shooter.
@madman432000Ай бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting Nice. I have a Kairos and when I left the shop the SET was maxed because of right tear. Didn't like it so after looking around some I downloaded the tune guide from Elite. They say center shot at 7/8" so I checked mine and it was 13/16. Moved it to 7/8 and recenter the SET adjustment. Had a slight right tear so did 1/4 or 1/2 turn on the set adjustment and it was good. Started dl at 29 and ended at 29.5 so that now is maxed for dl, backed limb bolts out a half turn too. 70lb limbs, if they would have had 65lb in stock would have got that. Definitely a nice shooting bow
@brosbeforebowshuntingАй бұрын
That’s awesome! Definitely one of the reasons why I like to do my own setups. The center shot number is definitely not as important as having the arrow leaving the bow straight! Good luck in the woods this season!
@timbow50Ай бұрын
What a beautiful place for an archery shoot. Some of those long shots are crazy ridiculous but fun in a way. I did TAC San Antonio a couple years back. Once was enough for me. My 80+ yard shots mostly sucked. All I know is you had better do a LOT of long shots before going to one of these. 👍👍
@brosbeforebowshuntingАй бұрын
Thanks for watching! Mountain Archery Fest has become one of our most favorite events! We will be shooting TAC in sunlight Colorado in a couple weeks!
@wcwcgarner2717Ай бұрын
The z1 is very aggressive. In pulling it back. I guess you can get used to it. And you like to punch that button.😂.
@brosbeforebowshuntingАй бұрын
Hey thanks for tuning in! That is definitely one thing that I have noticed about draw cycles, over time you get accustomed to it and it really doesn’t affect your accuracy. Secondly, yes I do punch that button, this footage was an attempt to bring me to that reality. I am working on it and you may see some different releases in my hands in future videos. Stay tuned!
@wcwcgarner2717Ай бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting I will stay tuned.
@joshuawooledge6945Ай бұрын
I like elite and I know that everything has gone up in price. However it is hard to swallow an updated price that follows the other flagship bows when Elite really didn't give me anything for my money. JMO.
@brosbeforebowshuntingАй бұрын
Thanks for tuning in, I can understand why you would say that, most if not all of the major players are using some kind of innovative integration of accessories. That being said, still shooting the Ethos and it’s quickly becoming a top contender for the elk woods this season.
@jedhuf75482 ай бұрын
Got mine right away at launch and absolutely love it. Best bow I’ve ever shot
@brosbeforebowshunting2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! This bow is quickly becoming one of my favorites!
@paulheberling27502 ай бұрын
Nice lookin bow! But that brace height is too high for me
@brosbeforebowshunting2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@michaelschnitzer40542 ай бұрын
I picked up a used 22’ last year and thought I was good for a while then elite dropped the ethos. Now I want an ethos.
@brosbeforebowshunting2 ай бұрын
We appreciate you tuning in! To tell you the truth, I was super close to buying the Omnia last year, I was super impressed with the performance but I tend to enjoy a 33 inch ATA. When they came out with the Ethos, I knew I was going to get one. This bow continues to impress me!
@radnrev58512 ай бұрын
I love mine!
@brosbeforebowshunting2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I’m loving it more and more every day!!!
@RWTupper2 ай бұрын
A notable and IMO significant limitation of the in-line pic style front scope mount is: Unlike Core or Bridge Lock alternatives (which emulate a dovetail mount), you have no control over how far in/out your scope ring sits. (which adversely effects peep alignment and eliminates the possibility of torque tuning) Also there's a significant variance between different PIC mount scope frame lengths/depths. A similar situation also exists with an IMS rest mount. (Although IMS rests are generally very close to the riser which is typically what you want.) Almost all other scope mounts (non picatinny) whether they're dovetail or fixed, you have some control as to how far out you place your scope ring. I've decided to not use the pic rail on my Hoyt Alpha X. (i've got the pic adapter for my B3 sight which is both rugged and incredibly lightweight with the dovetail. So converting it IMO results in taking a step backwards.)
@brosbeforebowshunting2 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for watching! All great and valid points about the pic mount system. I was just trying to say that for versatility that would be my choice. I have shot the spot Hogg fast eddy direct mount for the past few years and have found that peep and scope alignment with 3/16 peep at my draw length is perfect. Tru ball’s pic version is adjustable in and out and most are at very similar length from the riser. The times that I have torque tuned in the past it always seems to end up the same distance from the riser as the direct mount option anyway. I’m not sure how a pic mount version would actually weigh more than the dovetail direct mount or be a step backwards, but to each his own. Good luck in the woods! Thanks for watching and commenting!!
@RWTupper2 ай бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting Pic is lighter for sure, but the B3 frame so late it's insignificant. (I shoot single pin out to ~45 making holdover adjustment in my head so I prefer a very light/simple & fixed frame like the B3 Hunter. XL scope housing included, the entire site with dovetail is maybe 6 ounces!)
@RWTupper2 ай бұрын
oops... "so light it's insignificant"
@RWTupper2 ай бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting Didn't realize the Axcel mount was adjustable like that. Most are not & that's a great feature. (Looks like they just finally updated their website. I've been looking at Axcel sights/frames for years but decided to keep things simple.)
@mertkirci2 ай бұрын
Hi . I got 27.5 revex 6. Is there a possibility that I can adjust the arm length 27 or a little lower?
@brosbeforebowshunting2 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for watching, the revex has draw specific modules. If you want a true 27 inch draw you need to purchase that module. There are some tricks to shorten your draw length a little but a half inch I would recommend getting the correct module.
@mertkirci2 ай бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting Is there a link to the module?
@mertkirci2 ай бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting Is there a link to the module?
@brosbeforebowshunting2 ай бұрын
The easiest way is to contact the nearest prime dealer and have them send you one, Straight Six archery in Montana has always been great to work with, even if you are halfway across the country if they can help you out they will!
@williamcaffey78873 ай бұрын
Keep it up guys
@williamcaffey78873 ай бұрын
One of my favorite bow videos this year. Actually it was my favorite…and most informal. I have a PSE Omen 80# E2 (its kinda crazy 🤪 Also have a bowtech SR 350 (i would kill for 80 lbs limbs for that) I hoping Bowtech steps it up im the #80 department. Do you think the Mathews lift will be as efficient with heavier arrows with just the modules & not having 80lbs limbs?
@thomasvanderhoff7683 ай бұрын
Now that’s my kind of music.
@brosbeforebowshunting3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, we are definitely not the best at producing or editing videos but sometimes we get it right. Thank you!
@paulheberling27503 ай бұрын
My 858 grain black eagle ramp went 267😮granted that was with 100lbs of draw
@brosbeforebowshunting3 ай бұрын
Dang man that will definitely get the job done!
@paulheberling27504 ай бұрын
So the levitate at 75 out performed the Hoyt and Mach 1 at 80lb?? 😮
@brosbeforebowshunting4 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for watching! I’m pretty sure that you won’t find a cam that will out perform the PSE E2 cam. You do sacrifice some comfort in the draw cycle but if you can get used to it this combo is deadly. Thanks again for the comment!
@paulheberling27504 ай бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting thanks for the info and review. Seriously thinking about switching from APA to PSE Levitate
@brosbeforebowshunting4 ай бұрын
No problem, good luck in the woods!
@jons8585 ай бұрын
On the flip side to see how much speed you can get out of 80lb limbs, do you know what poundage you can back the 80lbs down to with allotted turns of the limb bolt?
@brosbeforebowshuntingАй бұрын
You definitely could, the question would be if you would loose efficiency or not. Some engineers have said that the bow is most efficient with the limb bolts completely tight.
@jowhi92967 ай бұрын
Which setting were you at which measured 30?
@brosbeforebowshunting7 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly on the e2 cam that would be the f setting on the module for 30 inches
@jowhi92967 ай бұрын
Ever test it in 28.5 or 29? All us short guy problems lol.
@brosbeforebowshunting7 ай бұрын
Hey Joseph thanks for watching! That is a great question, Josh shoots a 30 inch draw, I shoot 29-29.5 inch draw depending on the bow. We have both hunted with and shot the levitate for a couple of years now. It’s probably one of the most efficient platforms we have ever used. To answer your question, you can expect a decrease of 4-5 FPS per half inch of draw length. Thanks for the comment!
@jowhi92967 ай бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting appreciate it. I figured about that. I just got a Levitate. Honestly I wasn't sure about it and the 80#.. but when I shot it man it felt so good
@yvantomac95028 ай бұрын
Nice to see you guys
@brosbeforebowshunting8 ай бұрын
Thank you! It has been a bit.
@coltmedinger8 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff, I’m all about speed is power too. People give me a hard time for shooting an 80lb omen at 80% let off but my groups are tight and it’s a hammer. You guys needs to get an omen and play around with it
@brosbeforebowshunting8 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!! To be honest when I was looking at the “speed bows” it was between the Z1S and the Omen. I do like that they offer it in an 80# option and would probably be doing the same thing as you! Thanks for the comment!
@wcwcgarner27178 ай бұрын
Drawing that bow is like pulling a boat anchor. 😂😂
@brosbeforebowshunting8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Definitely stiffer than most, it also has that hump right before the valley. I found that after a couple weeks the draw became less noticeable. Thanks for the comment!
@kristianrobles61639 ай бұрын
Looking to get a new used bow and was looking between the revex 6 and Black 5. I love the idea of being able to adjust the draw for if family etc want to shoot for fun. Since you stated you like both, what are your thoughts between the two, since you only briefly touched on the two?
@brosbeforebowshunting9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! That is a great question, if adjustability is what you want/need the Black 5 is the way to go. The Black 5 is a bit heavier and has more vibration on the shot, but is still every bit as accurate as the revex 6. In addition to adjusting the draw length, with the black 5 you can also adjust the let off, which is something that I would love to have on the revex. Either way I don’t think you can make a bad choice. Let us know what you decide!
@pronghornobsession10 ай бұрын
Ran the Rev 6 since it came out and hands down one of my favorite bows i have ever shot honestly
@brosbeforebowshunting10 ай бұрын
There are so many attributes that the Revex has that make it a fun to shoot! I would have to agree with you, out of all of the bows that I have owned the most accurate, easy to aim bow that I have ever shot. I liked it so much that I went and purchased the Revex 4 and will most likely shoot that next hunting season! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!!
@pronghornobsession10 ай бұрын
@brosbeforebowshunting I did not like the string angles on the 4. With the centergrip tech I have to shoot the longer ATA. 31"DL 63# 427gr at 287fps
@brosbeforebowshunting10 ай бұрын
@pronghornobsession totally understand at 31 inch draw that angle would be a bit steep.
@allamericanlandclearing657711 ай бұрын
Just get a apa I'm 100+ lbs and stop messing around. I shot them all, and my apa @ 106lbs is just as smooth at my 80lbers its nuts
@brosbeforebowshunting11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! We have trying to find a way to get our hands on an APA for testing. They look like a beast of a bow!
@bradlauber9097 Жыл бұрын
I wish Prime make their cams like elite, Hoyt, bowtech and Athens. Cross cables to balance each side out. Advantage rotating quarter inch mods to customize draw length
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for watching! I agree, this day and age you would think that they could design an efficient adjustable mod system. That being said, the prime Revex 6 is an absolute TAC driver. Stay tuned, we will take a look at the Hoyt z 1 s and maybe the bowtech s x 80.
@yvantomac9502 Жыл бұрын
Goddamn was looking for you guys on milk cartons hehehe Nice to see you guys
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! We have been super busy these days!
@mikeguy9668 Жыл бұрын
Finally a channel that plays good music
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Hey Mike thanks for watching!
@4thholebridge Жыл бұрын
We were at that alligator 15 seconds before we saw it. Looking way past it
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! It took us a minute to see him also, meanwhile getting eaten alive by the mosquitoes! Some pretty cool shots!
@PantherSpawn Жыл бұрын
My inline 5 is new and loud as all hell. Loudest bow I've ever shot. Was planning on hunting with it, but now I dunno.
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, the inline is a bit louder than the other bows from that year. I purchased a string stop from Hi tek archery called the sand trap. It completely changed and dampened the noise at the shot.
@PantherSpawn Жыл бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting yeah, I ordered one to give it a shot. Anything woukd be better than this. My ct9 shoots much, much quieter.
@sinepari9160 Жыл бұрын
No nonsense review. It seemed like the draw cycle was a little more aggressive with the PSE Levitate.. one of these two bows will be the replacement for my RX4 Turbo. I went from a PSE Full Throttle to the Hoyt and might go back to PSE.
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Both bows are great we have found that over time the draw characteristics after a while don’t make much difference. At 80 lbs the Hoyt is easier to handle.
@sinepari9160 Жыл бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting That's why I'm considering an 80# RX7 to replace my 70# RX4Turbo. Should be a bit faster with a better draw cycle than the Z1S at 70#, but like you said I'm sure you get acclimated to it.
@Cody_Austin Жыл бұрын
How are you liking that new Prime?
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for watching! The Revex 6 has been a great bow. I plan on doing a proper review soon. There are a couple of things that I had to get use to but overall one of my favorites this year! Stay tuned for the full review!
@Cody_Austin Жыл бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting I will surely watch, I got a chance to try the Inline last year and the draw felt pretty stiff for a 65 lb bow. Made me wait another year. My RX-3 ultra leaves a lot to be desired but it keeps killing every deer I shoot at. I was a tad disappointed the Revex switched to DL specific modules, but from what I understand they had to do that to avoid some sort of legal trouble?
@kian5584 Жыл бұрын
😃 Promo sm
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@hamedizzy5137 Жыл бұрын
You don’t pull pressure off the strings…lots of people are saying that but that’s wrong you back the axle screw out a little. That’s how I take pressure off the system.
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info!
@lCarrera7374 Жыл бұрын
I shoot PSE EVO NXT 33, in my opinion it’s awesome bow, shoot beautiful out the box, I tune my bow so easy by just moving my arrow rest that’s it. Nice smooth cambs, it’s so quiet, better then Hoyt & Mathews. Is fast and very accurate I can group nice at 100 yards. I switch from Hoyt & Mathews to a PSE. When you’re tuning your bow make sure you grip your bow properly and tune every single arrow. All the PSE bows with EVO Cambs system are so easy to tune. 👍
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Hey Miguel thanks for watching! We both have enjoyed shooting the PSE bows! Definitely easier to tune these days! Thank you for your input!
@itzwade Жыл бұрын
Did you mention the draw length? If so I missed it.
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for watching! The DL was 30” for that test.
@itzwade Жыл бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting thanks for the reply, I shoot a 29 so I’m just trying to get an idea on speeds. 80# is the way to go, keep up the great content.
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Stay tuned!
@timthomas2125 Жыл бұрын
Did say how heavy your arrows where?
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Hey Tim thanks for watching! In that video we were shooting a 528 grain arrow. We have been discussing putting together a new arrow build video discussing what we have been shooting lately. Stay tuned!
@trackhoehunter2544 Жыл бұрын
What did you guys end up settling with last year and what are y'all going to do this year?
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I actually used both of the bows last year! I took the levitate on my Utah hunt and the RX7 Ultra on my Colorado hunt. It was awesome to pack a light bow in elk woods. We are undecided for this year. We have some bows to check out still so stay tuned in!
@Hank_Brassilio Жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video but how did you install the yoke system. No offense but the music and not you talking it through doesn’t give much instruction. Thinking about purchasing a Mach 1 and converting it but don’t know how to install it right now.
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Hey Henry, thanks for watching! When you install the yoke, you need new cables. Instead of a separate floating yoke the cables are split. They just cross in the grooves. Sorry I didn’t make it more clear. Best of luck! Let me know if you have any other questions!
@Hank_Brassilio Жыл бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting okay! I am looking more at specs for the bow and will purchase the strings. I just wasn’t sure how it installed onto the yoke then onto the bow. I think if I watch more and more I’ll figure it out! Thank you for the reply! Also wasn’t trying to be rude about the music comment but just couldn’t figure it out at first.
@megam3at171 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love the Tapout hoodie especially with zero ground game/ experience
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Not sure you know about my ground game.
@WolfinWolvesClothing713 Жыл бұрын
What do you know about anything?
@megam3at171 Жыл бұрын
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 a lot actually carry on..
@WolfinWolvesClothing713 Жыл бұрын
@Megam3at yea right....
@megam3at171 Жыл бұрын
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 stay salty
@lanetaglio Жыл бұрын
HQ north of San Diego??
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Yep, western Colorado. There isn’t much south San Diego is there?
@BaldMountainOutdoors Жыл бұрын
That looks like grand Mesa in the back there isn’t it?
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Might be
@acohen5267 Жыл бұрын
Shot a prime for the first time the other day. I was impressed! They always catch my eye. Nice looking, hold great and felt the same as the Hoyt I shot right behind it. Went with the Bowtech SS34 though.
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for watching! Prime has always been in our top picks, we both keep kicking around the idea of getting one of the new Bowtech models. Let us know how you like the ss34! Good luck in the woods!
@raymondjones6024 Жыл бұрын
Mathews is innovation Mathews research isn't a gimmick being the leaders in design and sales every bow made has Mathews old roller guard patient and carbon risers are made overseas and only shoot made in USA products Mathews has the sales in the most buyers that is strength in the company
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts! Mathews has made some great innovations in the past, we wanted to address the new ones for 2023. In our opinion the bows cam, tuning, mod system and performance haven’t changed in the past 3-4 years. We had high hopes and always look forward to what Mathews has to offer. Don’t take it personal, we were under whelmed. We both have been given the green light to pick a 2023 bow, stay tuned to see what we end up with!
@raymondjones6024 Жыл бұрын
@brosbeforebowshunting I'm truthfully not a fan of a binary cam system with cam lean by design and cable pressures tied directly to the cams without free floating yokes that is spread out farther away from the cams on the Advanced Vectoring System to balance the load in my testing on a drawboard with a arrow used as a straight edge against the shelf of the cams at brace is dead behind the string at the Dloop to mimic the powerstroke of the shot the same as I would yoke tune a Solocam and at full draw the cams are straight running 1/8 Parallel along side the string and I shoot perfect bullets though paper with the Vertix it's tough to beat the switch weight crosscentric cams for tuning but cam lean from different manufacturers I exclusively look at closely that's all part of horizontal nock travel and seen worse on other top manufacturers that never gets mentioned.
@brad_ryan8738 Жыл бұрын
Go shoot a Revex and you’ll have a different opinion. I owned an inline 5 and shot a Revex 4 and bought it immediately. The draw cycle is 100% smoother and better then the inline and it’s much quieter and less vibration!
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! After putting out this video we have had a lot of feedback on the Revex, don’t misunderstand what we said, as soon as I can, I will definitely get my hands on that bow. Prime has always been one of my favorites. Unfortunately where we live makes it a little more challenging and or expensive for us to truly put a Prime to the test. When we do we will definitely let you know what we think! Stay tuned!
@traviscroft91 Жыл бұрын
This year was definitely a stand still on innovation (bound to happen) that being said Mathew’s did some what outside the box with 4 limbs not that they needed it they already beat most competition in the dead in hand category Pse didn’t really do anything same with Hoyt Elite new cam is money Bow tech takes the cake with time lock and the shim system they have It would be nice to see if other bow companies would get into the accessories battle like Mathew’s pse is a great platform but a inline quiver system would put them in another category
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Hey Travis thanks for watching! Great points, we totally agree!! We would love to see If Bowtech works on an inline type sight mount also. Thank you for your comments!!
@stevenwalker9013 Жыл бұрын
All I know, coming from a Hoyt carbon spyder is I have never heard as quite of a bow as the phase 4. It really is impressive.
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Hey Steven thanks for watching! There is no doubt that it is impressive, maybe our expectations are just too high.
@stevenwalker9013 Жыл бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting it’s a fair point, I think the technology has peaked. They can’t get any faster without some major innovations and still be smooth. I think little tweaks is all we will see until someone comes up with a game changer
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
We were kinda hoping for the game changers this year, I guess we will have to see what next year brings! Stay tuned, we have some great content coming!
@jaydensankey2301 Жыл бұрын
nice vid, yeh bows have certainly plateaued over the last few years i think what most of the companies have done is just given more options and finally some longer ata bows, in saying that ive ordered the bowtech sx80 to replace my revolt x, the specs on the sx80 are exactly what i was after, 34" ATA or more, 31.5" draw and a 80lb option
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! Good luck with the sx 80, let us know what you think!
@mayhem035 Жыл бұрын
Try it before thrashing it. 💁♂️
@brosbeforebowshunting Жыл бұрын
Fair enough, we didn’t mean to “thrash” anyone but usually for us trying it is quite an investment. We are several miles from any of the major dealers and truly trying it is more than 2-3 arrows through a whisker biscuit and no sight.
@mayhem035 Жыл бұрын
@@brosbeforebowshunting not hating..
@michaelcolthart4006 Жыл бұрын
I have a V3 X and have shot the Phase 4 many times at the shop…..you should really shoot the bows before you opine on them. The Phase 4 is a better shooting bow, though not enough to motivate me to upgrade; definitely not a gimmick. Oh, and you can still use whatever stabilizer you want…..now you have another option.