Winter Midge and Streamer Fishing
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@stevevanzandt1655
@stevevanzandt1655 2 күн бұрын
Great instruction. Now I see what I was doing wrong!
@bobsbrewery4884
@bobsbrewery4884 14 күн бұрын
I have been drop shot nymphing a lot this year & caught loads of fish.Last night I was missing a few fish I think i shouldn't have though.This seems to happen more when slightly windy.I have a couple of questions for you.Do you always run your rig slightly overweight rather than underweight. Do you always want to feel that bottom all the way through the drift when leading.As opposed to euronymphing where often you slightly underweight & see the takes more on your sighter.I am thinking with drop shot.It's best to overweight keep tight & relying on feeling most takes.Would you say this is the best approach with drop shot nymphing. Cheers
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 14 күн бұрын
Absolutely. I often get the question, " How much lead should I use". Well, there is no answer to this question. As you might guess, every river and saturation are different. However, I will answer question bay stating, it is always better to error on too much lead than not enough. Not enough lead means your flies are not in the target zone of the trout and you will not catch any trout. Error on too much lead and you will still catch trout, except now you run the risk of hanging your lead up on the bottom. I like to feel my lead tapping on the bottom. This is kind of mis-leading because on gravel bottoms you will often not feel your weight on the bottom. For me it is a feel, and you will acquire this feel in time. I just finished my latest book, Drop Shot Nymphing, A Definitive Guide. This will be out around fall. Here I have devoted a whole chapter on "Weight Management" where I go into this issue in more depth. As far as Euro style nymphing goes, it is difficult, or in some cases impossible to add weight in order to keep your nymphs in the target zone. In DS it is extremely easy to maintain proper weight management as an adjustment to the changing river bottom. I do have on my channel, topical videos on these issues and more on DS. Thanks for the well thought out comment.
@C69hJc4
@C69hJc4 18 күн бұрын
Cool Video! I can see the benefit and have enjoyed one myself. I eventually found the jingle jangle annoying. If you move slow and don't bend over much, then no big deal though
@jeromefynaut8177
@jeromefynaut8177 23 күн бұрын
A other great video Mike fish whisper good to know thank again and keep watching 👍
@mikelundrigan2285
@mikelundrigan2285 24 күн бұрын
It seems to me if you do something long enough similar solutions will present themselves to you! I use a quite similar Fanny pack which I added a wide nylon strap to lengthen the original one so I can carry it diagonally over my shoulder across my body on my back. I spin it around to the front to access it and return it to keep it out of my way! I carry a folding knife clipped in a in an open sheath on my pants belt on a lanyard thru a pants belt loop so I can’t loose it but still easily use it. My flys are generalist patterns that can resemble many trout foods. My net is also carried in a narrow bag with a wide strap in the same way. I like a telescopic net to extend my range. The bag keeps the net from getting tangled in bushes as I walk thru narrow wooded trails etc. I also have my flys in pill bottles to organize them! My dropper flys are tied on short stiff mono loops and stuck in foam which once was inside an old life jacket. They are kept in a zip lock bag so if one falls out of the foam it is still easy to find and won’t get lost opening and closing my pouch! A pair of fishing haemostats/ cutters and a bug net for my hat ( in a zip lock) are also useful items in my kit, Etc. Good videos on your Chanel! Thanks!
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for your well thought out comment. You have some great ideas; one I might incorporate into my own belt. You are right, the longer you are at this game of fly fishing the more things you pick up. What was once the diamond of your eye, today is lost among all your gear in the garage.
@RadGhost-gt5sq
@RadGhost-gt5sq 25 күн бұрын
Do you know anything about above the dam?!
@bjornekholm1652
@bjornekholm1652 27 күн бұрын
If you're using flies on hooks at size 14 or bigger it's much easier to use a snapper holding the flies.
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 27 күн бұрын
That’s the beautiful thing about DS, you do what works for you. The fish doesn’t know what a Snap Swivel is.
@austinelliott2798
@austinelliott2798 Ай бұрын
I just recently made a DIY lanyard based on the Golden Trout design. I'm still tuning it in, but I really like it. DIY is great because it's highly customizable and repairable.
@gavinstuart6704
@gavinstuart6704 2 күн бұрын
what happend t them? did they close as a business?
@austinelliott2798
@austinelliott2798 2 күн бұрын
@@gavinstuart6704 I don’t think so. It appears they only sell on instagram.
@user-io4ui9dr5q
@user-io4ui9dr5q Ай бұрын
Don't use lead shot in any Maine body of water if you are caught you will not be fishing anymore. Lead shot is illegal in Maine!!!
@wschield608
@wschield608 Ай бұрын
Do these same observations work on any fish other than trout?
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 Ай бұрын
Absolutely
@christinedouglas1092
@christinedouglas1092 Ай бұрын
More great info!
@christinedouglas1092
@christinedouglas1092 Ай бұрын
Good info for us gals too! 👍😊
@christinedouglas1092
@christinedouglas1092 Ай бұрын
Another great video Mike!
@christinedouglas1092
@christinedouglas1092 Ай бұрын
Another gem of a video from a true master.
@christinedouglas1092
@christinedouglas1092 Ай бұрын
I'm with you Mike - Spring creeks are my fav. Thanks for the great videos!
@czechnolike
@czechnolike Ай бұрын
Is this video missing sound?
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 Ай бұрын
No I just checked it for you.
@christinedouglas1092
@christinedouglas1092 Ай бұрын
A short master class in making beautiful efficient and accurate dry fly casts. I've been privileged to have one on one coaching with Mike. He’s the best!
@christinedouglas1092
@christinedouglas1092 Ай бұрын
Great instructional video Mike! 👍
@christinedouglas1092
@christinedouglas1092 Ай бұрын
Beautiful! Now that's the type of fishing I like! No people! 👍
@ruthcoldsmith5376
@ruthcoldsmith5376 Ай бұрын
Mike, thank you for a great show.I have one question we have a lot of wood in our streams here. Can we you a ĺighter 4 inch if we tear off.RJC
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 Ай бұрын
Yes no problem
@dennybowser5533
@dennybowser5533 2 ай бұрын
I've been doing the same drop shot. The problem I have is so many rat nest after a catch.
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 2 ай бұрын
Yeah drop shotting like most euro styles of modern nymphing have that same problem. Once in the net a rats nest can happen. I reserve my net for larger trout and most under 12 inches I try to shake off the fly.
@mikelundrigan2285
@mikelundrigan2285 2 ай бұрын
I do something quite similar using tungsten coated poly leaders as my sink tips with a short leader already attached! I cut off the flys and remove the leader, saving it for later, add my poly leader with a loop to loop to my floating fly line, add the flys and ready to go! Not that different from your method which will work just as well! Great minds think alike or so I’ve been told! 👍👍😊😊
@mikelundrigan2285
@mikelundrigan2285 2 ай бұрын
I almost always fish a steamer type fly on the point such as a Muddler or baitfish imitation and a smaller wet fly such as a Hares ear soft hackle etc. on a short stiffer mono looped tag (4-5” long) attached above a knot with the loop, on a self constructed tapered leader with a 6-8 lb test Florocarbon tippet about 24 “ long. I use perfection loops to connect the tippet to the leader for easy replacement. Sometimes I hook two trout on one cast …. My theory is the trout sees the “minnow” chasing the wet fly and its territorial predatory instincts kick in! Only land both perhaps 50% of the time!! But some fun nonetheless! Tight lines!
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 2 ай бұрын
Perfect! Not a thing wrong with what you are doing.
@glenndotter5065
@glenndotter5065 2 ай бұрын
Ive been throwing flies for 64 years now. The absolute best way to "perfect" your casts is to go do it and watch other guys. I had one lesson on swinging wet flies. Everything else was from doing and watching. So watch the video and then go fish. The fish will teach you good casts from poor casts.
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 2 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@glennkellis8697
@glennkellis8697 2 ай бұрын
Great video, I’m excited to try this method. One thing I’m puzzled about is what knot do you use to tie your 3dr fly directly to the leader? In the video you just tie an overhand knot, and it’s unlikely that would hold a fish… thanks!
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 2 ай бұрын
It's called an in-line nymph, meaning the nymph is tied directly to the leader. I rarely do this anymore because once you tie it on you can't take it off. Any knot will do the job and you are right, if there is a weak point on the leader it is this knot.
@mikelundrigan2285
@mikelundrigan2285 2 ай бұрын
The main reason I do not have spools of tippet on a lanyard is because the tippet would be exposed to uv rays when outside and the tippet will be weakened over time! Instead, I make my own leaders at home and carry 1/2 dozen with extra spools of various tippet that I may need but inside zippered pockets of a sling pack I carry over my shoulders on my back with my flys etc. My knife is on a strong looped string, looped thru a belt loop, in a knife case on the belt. The knife is accessible to use but cannot be lost because it is tied on my jeans…..lost a couple before I devised this method…case opened after getting snagged and knife fell out!! I tie everything on my pack with zingers or strong line so it is accessible but cannot be lost, such as haemostats! Even the zingers are further secured! Going thru the bush, there are many ways your stuff can snag on branches etc. and you may not even know it is gone until you need it later!
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 2 ай бұрын
Very good information. I'm an old fish hobo who loves to see what others are doing. I might, as in the case of your comment, steal a thing or 2 that will help me.
@mikelundrigan2285
@mikelundrigan2285 2 ай бұрын
@@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 Glad you found something useful in my comments, you are most welcome to take what you find useful! I am always seeking new info such as you provide! Fly fishing and fly tying are never ending journeys to perfect that we will never achieve but we keep on trying, that is what I find so interesting! Tight lines! Keep on trucking!
@mikelundrigan2285
@mikelundrigan2285 2 ай бұрын
Been fly fishing for 56 years! Also open face spin fish on occasion! Often wondered why few suggest using a light limber spinning rod to drop shot fly fish with a bobber (indicator) to adjust depth! Weight on the end of the line with the flys above it at different heights similar to what you present here!! That’s how many fish earth worms! Why not add flys above a weight with a small bobber?? Easy to cast where you want, no back cast to snag bushes etc.? Think it could be just as fish catching as with a fly rod!! Can’t see any reason it shouldn’t work!!
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 2 ай бұрын
Conceptually it is exactly the same thing. I'm currently writing a book on drop shot nymphing. Historically drop shot nymphing is barrowed from spin fishing.
@jimcastillo8950
@jimcastillo8950 2 ай бұрын
Thumbs up.....
@self-taught_angler
@self-taught_angler 2 ай бұрын
I am the exact opposite. I like booted waders even when it is 90 degrees. It protects me against rattle snakes, ticks, poison oak and bushes. I also sink into silt all the time. It is worse than sand. It annoys me during fishing and cleaning it is a chore afterwards.
@shaneewell7404
@shaneewell7404 2 ай бұрын
I like what i'm learning from your videos. I havent caught on yet....Are you using this drop shot rig with a floating fly line or what are you using for your main line?
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 2 ай бұрын
Well, this is a good question on your part. No part of Drop Shotting should be mis-understood. I use a 10 ft. 6 wt. rod; with that I use an inexpensive weight forward 6 wt. floating line. WF6F. If you have any other questions, you can contact me via the beginning of every video is my contact from my website. Here I can give you a more Indepth answers.
@distantgalaxymusic1447
@distantgalaxymusic1447 2 ай бұрын
After checking my maps and trout routes app, there are 2 Malad Rivers in Idaho. There is one Malad River that forms in Gooding where the Big Wood and Little Wood rivers confluence together and that river empties into the Snake River at Hagerman. The other Malad River starts south of Pocatello near the town of Malad. That river forms from a spring/pond and flows south to Utah. Is this correct? I got confused when looking for this river.
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 2 ай бұрын
You are correct. The Malad I'm talking about is 10 minutes South of the town Bliss on Hwy 84 in Southwest Idaho. You can check the flows on the river by accessing Idaho Power Stream Flows. The river is listed as MaladB, the B for Bliss. You will not get accurate flows from USGS. I fish the river just above the Snake River. You will be able to find it on Google Maps or Trout Routes. Sorry for the confusion.
@distantgalaxymusic1447
@distantgalaxymusic1447 2 ай бұрын
@@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 thanks! I’m looking for a nice place to fly fish that isn’t only stocked with planted fish. I can’t wait for the irrigation influx to slow a little so I can try my luck on the little wood river outside of Richfield. I also want to take a trip to the east fork Boise River as well. Im enjoying your channel. Thanks for the videos!
@markbarnard3964
@markbarnard3964 3 ай бұрын
Would be nice if you demonstrated what you are advocating rather than just talking.
@HighHoleOutdoors
@HighHoleOutdoors 3 ай бұрын
What length rod is that?
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 3 ай бұрын
I'm using a 10ft 6wt. Rainshadow fly rod.
@eddobbins6245
@eddobbins6245 3 ай бұрын
Mike.. i stumbled across your channel only a couple months ago, and just got back from a fly fishing trip. Your method is absolutely deadly to say the least. Ive been using an indicator for a long time. No more. Its just not needed with your method and i thank you. I actually got tired of catching fish lol. I used 8 lb floro for my leader. My question.. since the floro is invisible to the fish, why cant i use the same 8 lb for the dropper tags? Have you tried that? Thank you in advance sir.. your method was an absolute game changer for me
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 3 ай бұрын
There are no rules in Drop Shot nymphing. I'm in the process of writing another book, Drop Shot Nymphing, where I am continually saying this throughout the book. However, the reason I use 6lb fluoro on all of my 8, 10, and 12 pound leaders is, If the flies get caught on the bottom I want the flies to break off and not the whole leader. It's much easier to tie on a fly than change a leader. 6lb fluoro is a great combination of strength and free flowing movement which we want our nymph to do. I hope this helps.
@eddobbins6245
@eddobbins6245 3 ай бұрын
@@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 excellent i didnt think of that.. thank you sir!
@kshfly1982
@kshfly1982 3 ай бұрын
Great tips! I see so many guys taking forever to get rods out of the tube and rigged up. That would drive me nuts.
@dennybowser5533
@dennybowser5533 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I have a Borger color system booklet with data sheets
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 3 ай бұрын
Good system.
@bobhammond8067
@bobhammond8067 3 ай бұрын
I would need to see examples....that's just me
@joerob3449
@joerob3449 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info
@jeromefynaut8177
@jeromefynaut8177 3 ай бұрын
You made a great decision I wanted to but wife wanted to stay with family just learned to deal with it 😢
@jeromefynaut8177
@jeromefynaut8177 3 ай бұрын
Great info Mike it’s to bad I live in central California I would like to take a trip to Idaho sounds like an adventure enjoy your video 👍
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 3 ай бұрын
Caught my first trout on a fly as a young boy on the Kern River. I to am from that area. Left for Idaho over 30 some years ago.
@bobmatuzak2263
@bobmatuzak2263 3 ай бұрын
Good stuff. I’m always looking to minimize. thank you.
@jeromefynaut8177
@jeromefynaut8177 3 ай бұрын
Very clever Mike like the lumber belt 👍I am still hooked on the vest never know
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely nothing wrong with that. I keep a couple of old vests hanging around just in case.
@Meetch80
@Meetch80 3 ай бұрын
I’m learning the drop shot rig right now. Once I get my fly with the perfection loop tied, I am struggling with getting that onto my leader. I can’t get the loop to sinch down
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 3 ай бұрын
I’ve not had that issue. The only thing I can think of is once you have put the fly through the loop and begin pulling the knot on the loop is stuck and won’t go through. That’s happened, I just keep working it.
@williamblair2934
@williamblair2934 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Mike. I just ordered another system to minimalize. I may incorporate the belt ideal. Hopefully, the new one won’t be added to the wall of gear😁
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 3 ай бұрын
LOL 😂my wall can’t hold 1 more thing
@jeromefynaut8177
@jeromefynaut8177 3 ай бұрын
So if I have 5 WF I would do WF5FS-3 sec. just making sure thank you much Mike👍
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 3 ай бұрын
Yes your reel is spooled with 5 weight floating line and you are drop shot nymphing with that line. You would add a sink tip head using 4 to 8 foot section depending on your needs
@jeromefynaut8177
@jeromefynaut8177 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Mike , I dry flyed and now getting into other options just wanting to learn the correct way thanks again for your support
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 3 ай бұрын
@@jeromefynaut8177 Great 👍
@jeromefynaut8177
@jeromefynaut8177 3 ай бұрын
Ha Mike went to Wall Mart the other day and couldn’t find the Stone Creek sinking line isn’t a sinking fly line? Or a monofilament? Just a little confused about it I know you probably can help and I have 2 pairs of cocoons one slim line copper and pilot in gray great polarized hope you can help thanks again Mike
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 3 ай бұрын
Hi Jerome, When I say sinking line, I don't mean a mono or Fluro type line. A full sinking FLY LINE, say a 6wt, you will see on the box being labeled WF6FS The S for Sinking. The WF for weight forward. Type 1,2 3, or 6 would be how many inches per second. Type 3 would be 3 inches per second. Stone Creek has a website so you can order it online from them. You never know what Walmart may have in stock so try Walmart online.
@jeromefynaut8177
@jeromefynaut8177 3 ай бұрын
Hi Mike have a question about your sunglasses are they cocoons, with copper or amber lenses I where glasses also let me know I need to spot fish,have a pair of cocoons with copper lenses thank you again
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 3 ай бұрын
I’m blind without my glasses. XL cocoon slate grey polarized Aviators is what I wear. I like them and due a new pair. I’ll use the old pair as a back up.
@vanceregan9708
@vanceregan9708 3 ай бұрын
Practical, helpful information. Thanks!
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jeromefynaut8177
@jeromefynaut8177 3 ай бұрын
Hi Mike great video thanks what I am talking about I just enjoy being out there just got to gear up for the winter months also knowing you’re streams thanks again 👍
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 3 ай бұрын
Right on
@Meetch80
@Meetch80 3 ай бұрын
You mentioned briefly that you want your flies moving slightly faster than the current. Do you feel that way for just drop shot nymphing or do you feel that way for all styles of nymphing?
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543
@northwestschoolofflyfishin1543 3 ай бұрын
All styles. Moving the nymph at the same speed or slightly faster than the current. The rod and rod tip are constantly moving. All this to maintain a straight line connection from the nymph to your hand.