Always thought people were just whining when I heard about finecast. Then I started playing and chose Aeldari. Three units of Fire Dragons and three Swooping Hawks later and I absolutely get it. Bubbles, craters, mold lines melding into the model, mold lines in impossible to reach places, entire details like fingers and nodes missing....

I've thought about using inks but never took the plunge before. How do they work in relation to normal acrylics? Also I just got this yellow from a company "Two Thin Coats", it's pretty good at coverage but I always feel guilty using it because it was pricey.

i had the same issues with the old metal Kroot rider back in the day

12:40 = *TAMIYA* Super Thin Glue -mixed-with- SPRUES = *SPRUE GLUE"* for Gap Filling *_While_* you're assembling your Models......it does the Trick

Finecast is unacceptable. I think it‘s even understated how brittle it tends to be. And different to metal, warped miscasts can‘t be fixed due to it. So I have that one mini that is missing in my Lotr Galadhrim army, that is only available in fine-cast. What do I do ? …Oh, If only there was a way to get them in the pewter they were always supposed to be, with some skill and … granted, a ton of extra work, that comes along when learning prop-making anyway. - For my purely personal use I’d have a very clear conscience :) (Great Video btw !)

Its not that bad, and worth it for the more detailed sculpts

Honestly, all Resin sucks, at least for players. For painters, I get it. Though getting a warped sword on a Forge World model you sold your kidney to buy, is insulting.

I remember getting the finecast ‘masters of the chapter’ while they were still in production, and they weren’t actually too bad. A bit of a bulge / warp in a sword blade, but nothing a bit of filing and putty couldnt fix. But they are mostly one piece, with the bodies being monolithic and having few bits you need to stick on, none that need carefully aligning

Never use superglue on plastic miniatures unless you are kitbashing and need to break your model apart afterwards. The bond is too brittle. Recommending superglue is just plain bad advice. Always use plastic cement - Revell or Tamiya Extra Thin are the best. Save the super glue for resin models.

The resin they seem to use for finecast is incredibly brittle. I was pulling the canoness you show in the video off double stick tape from priming it and I slipped and the mini snapped in half. I also got a made to order finecast of the old daemon prince, it came with no assembly instructions at all. I think if they do stuff like that, it has to be Forgeworld resin and

Yes. Yes it really is that bad.

That canonness ancle is the worst part in resin, mine broken so many times that I put her in small glass bell diorama

These handy little kits are my favourite things, just enough to get started and get a real feel for how the higher quality stuff feels

Another falls victim to the Rule of Cool.

I do like the Nolzur line, its how I got into mini painting as a hobby. Great review.

Wondered what Wizkids stuff was like. Now I know. I like the idea for the pot paints great way to try some colors out

What a fun (though unplanned) way to get back into the swing of things! Maybe more experienced painters should pick up paint kits and try using only what's in the box, if nothing but to remind ourselves of where many get their beginnings. Excellent video!

Let's give it up for the editing mistake at 15:15. Go me.

To me, forgeworld resin is allmost as bad, especially given the premium they ask you to fork over for it.

Over 75% of the finecast models I got were messed up beyond usability: they had an offset at the mouldline or huge bubbles or extremely warped parts, Had to return so many. Metal is way better, I still have many models to this day because you can strip the paint as many times as you want! We had a very annoying GW store manager who defended finecast absolutely and claimed it was better than plastic and all the pro painters loved it. I'm so glad she got fired, what a moron.

Yes, the answer is yes.

The Fallout minis are my first fine cast models and they are definitely not beginner friendly.

I think the biggest issue with finecast is that it was used in molds originally intended for pewter. Combine that with the inherent issues of improperly mixed or cured resin before demolding and you get a lot of the issues that they ended up with. Metal cools rather quickly and can be demolded more quickly than resin, so effectively using resin in place of metal cuts production, which is part of how they justified the prices. Frankly, I would rather work with the horrible metal/plastic hybrid kits that were prevalent in the late 90's to early 00's than deal with finecast again.

I quite enjoy building finecast models in small doses. I try to reframe all the problems with them as modelling challenges! The worst thing for me though is how soft the material is when it comes to cutting - all too easy to take chunks and slices out of a surface while removing the many gates etc.

Man, I would really love to know what was going on inside GW with Finecast. They had to develop entire new hobby products just to deal with the problems in Finecast models, like Liquid Greenstuff. I honestly don't think there was a better resin formula they could have used for Finecast, because whatever resin they used, GW could re-use the moulds for metal models. But then GW could have had a different resin type for models designed ground-up for Finecast? It's all a mess. Today none of this matters because metal and Finecast models were reserved for special character models with fine detail, because older plastic models just couldn't support a lot of detail. Modern GW plastic models have extremely fine detail. Really though, would metal models really have been that expensive? A lot of shipping is costed per volume, not weight. Maybe because GW was operating at a scale beyond what other metal model makers were?

Something not mentioned in this video is the biggest drawback of metal is the paint chips off VERY EASILY. I'd love to know the number of consumers Failcast chased away from the hobby.

First time I bought finecast (LOTR iron guard iirc), I opened it in the store and saw that the minis had big holes in the plastic, and I instantly returned it for refund. They let me take another, but when I opened it, it had the same problems. The third still had some issues, but was just about acceptable, so I grudgingly accepted it. I normally almost never ask for refunds and accept most minor issues in products (mostly because of social anxiety involved with the conflict situation) so that tells a lot.

yes finecast was really that bad

Preparing a finecast model is painful, but in my opinion if all goes well, the finished painted miniature is always better than the metal alternative if only because of the weight. Much easier to store, magnetize, and use on the tabletop, and paint doesnt chip off on every contact.

For the amount of money you're paying for one of these models they shouldn't be this much of a pain nor should there be as many blemishes/surface pits etc. I love the sculpts GW and FW put out but the price point + quality is just egregious.

A friend ran a store selling this stuff. He ordered a few of the Librarian with Psychic Hood minis, and every single of them was trash. It looked for all the world like a centimeter large chunk of the mold had been torn out, so half the helmet was just gone, under a large cubic chunk of resin. GW refused to replace them or reimburse him.

Forgeworld resin isn't much better.... I got some knockoff minis that were of better quality than the real thing.

People called me mad in the past, because I demanded a metal Slambo rerelease, they did not know the dreadful torture that is finecast.

Yes, next video pls.

Great video! :) I had such an issue with finecast as well. Very disappointing getting a model and the face has no details .. 0.o

Failcast

Fine Cast is The Worst resin I have ever bought in my life! I Is that bad, never had a single fine cast model with out issues all of them had bubbles or massive mold slip or missing detail. Hell one of the models which cost me upwards of $50 was missing teeth! I didn't notice because it was a squig until I started looking at the GW Website photo's its not even a missing piece they just didn't even form properly in the mold. That's not even getting started on how brittle it is and how you can barley get it off the runner with out snapping the model to pieces.

Reaper doesn't use Polystyrene plastic. Reaper Bones uses shitty rubbery plastic.

We Eldar don't have much choice, sadly.

If you look at the squiggly finecast sprue it's no wonder the model is bend too. Terrible material

Informative and entertaining. Just perfect.

I only have two «finecast» resin miniatures. Both are in sealed opaque boxes, so I don't know what's inside. I'm fear to open it - what if there's a bloody mess? (I bought this models because the seller was misleading me by saying that it was plastic). In general, I love GW metal very much, but unfortunately 40% of the metal on the second-hand market is fake counterfeit. Almost every third metal miniature that I bought turned out to be a fake, which I had to give away for free to someone.

Yes, the answer is yes.

Failcast melts when exposed to isopropyl alcohol so DON'T use it to strip paint off these models.

I remember cleaning the parts for Epidemius. I LOVE the model. But the amount of cleaning and remodeling around gaps was horrible. Especially with the nurgly organic shapes it was so hard to see if I just cut mold lines and contact parts for the injection or if I shaved off a part of the actual model. But....still love the miniature. Looks fantastic.

Reaper Bones miniatures are PVC-based, not polystyrene. This is why styrene solvent cement does not work on them.

Without watching the video I can say Finecast is that bad. I went to a GW Open Day where amongst other things I played a small game with Eldar Rangers. The long rifle of the ranger kneeling and firing had reacted to the heat and actually bent 90 degrees to the floor. It looked like an extreme case of brewers drupe. The Zoanthropes made from Finecast also suffered from heat problems with the creatures not being able to stand unsupported in the Sydney heat and humidity. And of course there were numerous casting problems with models being incomplete or suffering air bubbles disfiguring the models. The one time I think the material worked was with a throne for a Slaan Mage. The throne is represented as floating and the original model used solid metal which had a tendency to over stress the post it was mounted on and snap it. The Finecast was so much lighter and an easy shape to manufacture without problem.

There's a reason we called them FineCrap. The first several batches had models with partially completed casts. I remember buying a finecast space marine model and half his damn head was just missing off the piece.

It's horrible stuff. I had a couple of flamers and a CM sorcerer figure from when it first came out that went really brittle over the years. I threw them out after they needed constant repairs. The finecast resin was also apparently formulated to be difficult/impossible to strip without damaging the miniature - apparently this was to try & curtail the second-hand market for GW figures and make people buy new.

I bought two kits of failcast Tankbustas without realising what I was in for. I took them along to a hobby weekend at a friend's cabin and thank Gork I did because at least there I didn't have to do that shit sober. Even beered up and hanging out with my buddy it was the most miserable time I've ever had building minis. 'Building Tankbustas' has actually become jargon for us for something that is really obnoxious and tedious.