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@bobadler3097
@bobadler3097 Ай бұрын
Does anyone know where the wifi location is on a samsung bespoke fridge?
@HeadieHooperz
@HeadieHooperz Ай бұрын
What would you do for a metal gas line with a high magnetic emf levels?
@ScipioAndycanus
@ScipioAndycanus Ай бұрын
I see that most of the commenters here are your standard Prima_Donna electrician assholes. Very nice.
@maureendeveloper2611
@maureendeveloper2611 Ай бұрын
Thank You! Thank you for making this video. I did this and it worked. Thank You!
@donaldshimkus539
@donaldshimkus539 3 ай бұрын
I told my power company I wanted to opt out and not have a smart meter for health and safety reasons and they said ok. Shortly after, they sent someone to change out meters in my area. I locked my box and told her I opted out and she left. About a year later, when I was 40 miles from home and the one day I forgot to turn off location on my phone, they snuck someone in to cut my lock off and change the meter. My wife called me and put him on the phone and I told him what he did was vandalism and he could be prosecuted or even shot. He didn't seem to care and left WITH my lock. Duke Energy has way too much power and should be STOPPED!
@Decenium
@Decenium 3 ай бұрын
oh dear, is this place filled with tinfoilhead people?
@tommywatterson5276
@tommywatterson5276 3 ай бұрын
The reading was .06 amps. VERY minimal. You are not going to stop the bleed over to 0 amps 0 volts in a grounding / neutral system. The Earth Soil gradient conductivity will vary. You want to fix this ....install additional grounds in the system and even then it may not go to 0 in ground. You are scaring the crap out of people that do not know any better. Quit over analyzing this. You cut the whole house off and still got a bleed over into ground wire.....imagine that.
@kristinak5721
@kristinak5721 3 ай бұрын
THANK YOU!!
@DogeGFSolo
@DogeGFSolo 4 ай бұрын
Hi Shaun ty for the vid. was wondering if this would fix the problem on my internet company's coaxial cable that an electrician measured had over 120v going through it. Long story short the first cable tv tech discovered his company's wires burned and charred on the side of my house and did nothing to fix the problem with their property, left the burned charred coaxials hanging and dangling from my house and as he was leaving, said, I kid you not "My supervisor said call an electrician." there is red tag saying do not touch their grounding cable etc and to call THEM if it needs to be moved or work done etc. I said it was his the cable company's property and an electrician is just going to say that and maybe test it. Btw this was the young techs 2nd attempt at finding my home address - on Google maps - which is practically impossible to do, my address is on the house. But he charged me for a service fee of over $60 for missing the appointment. It gets much better hold on. So, as expected the electricians both from the power co and Master electrician from a non util company advised that it is the property of the cable/internet company and they need to determine what the problem is with their equipment. Cut to the third attempt to restore my internet service and a 2nd tech. The 2nd tech said he couldn't detect any voltage, he touched it, with his finger, and said he "didn't detect any voltage". I had made sure to inform him of the situation and about the current on their coaxial cables etc. I made absolutely certain that it was not safe. He was there for a while and cut off all the old coaxial and box and replaced it and the modem. I now have 4 cable modems from this company. Long story short about 4 days later at around 10:30 pm at night I awoke to smoke in my bedroom. Thinking it was the electric heater which had some oil in it, I unplugged it and put it in another room to be sure. But, the smoke was getting worse. After a couple minutes it dawned on me that it might be the from the same problem, the cable company's coaxial cable. So, I put on some clothes real quick - it was freezing cold outside - and ran outside to se my house was on fire and ALL of the cable company's coaxial cable completely gone as was the box which was melted onto the ground like a puddle at that point. I had some water in a large tub just by chance on the side of my house and through it on the flames and put most of the fire out but I had to call the fire department which were less than 2 miles away. The fire chief and the electricians that came with them said it was the cable company's equipment/property and that they needed to have someone competent to determine what the issue was and fix it or tell me what it is and then I could have had it fixed if it were something on my ened. Not just leave me stranded without internet service and say call an electrician. It turns out that the 2nd tech just replaced everything and did not fully investigate what the issue was. The first tech could have done that as nothing was changed between the first tech visiting and the second tech who "restored service" but it only lasted 4 days until the problem returned in their property and caught my house on fire. I have found out since this is not completely unheard of and other people have had fires in their homes as a result. I am currently waiting to hear from the "Damage escalation team" about what they're going to do and to pay for the damages. the electrician with the fire department who was like attached to the department put this red blank thing in place of the meter and said that problem needs to be fixed before I go back into my house and live there. So, I am writing to you from my family's home where I am staying until this company pays for all the damages and costs I have incurred as a result of this. I'd just like to know IF this ElectraHealth ground loop isolator would have prevented the voltage on their coaxial cables and thus prevented my house from catching on fire? It's been over 8 weeks now waiting. I did as their dispute form said and submitted my dispute as an attorney I spoke with suggested I do before going to arbitration or small claims court which would cost the company even more money and lawyers fees etc. This company has still not gotten back in touch with me as they stated in writing on their website. I had to finally call and push it up the chain and a Damage escalation ticket was created by this supervisor who moved it up the chain to a "Subject matter specialist" who at least apologized to me. $27,500 in damages and costs incurred thus far. This week i am supposed to hear back from this guy they sent out to meet me - I am an hour and a half from my small town - and he is the top guy apparently who then gives it to this other guy who will make the final determination I guess and then they will let me know. If they DON'T help me or try to put the blame on me somehow I have all the witnesses and fire department on my side and will have to sue them or take the to Arbitration. I am hoping and praying they will do the right thing and thank their lucky stars it was a house burned down and a death, mine, instead of what did happen. I will post back here with the name of the company if they do me wrong.
@michaelm4865
@michaelm4865 4 ай бұрын
Perfect example of NEC 250.6(B) from 2020 NEC.
@bobbyrest7081
@bobbyrest7081 4 ай бұрын
You know you messed up pretty bad, when Mike Holt, "Gods gift to the electrical world" comes here and scolds you... EMF guy, just take the correction, learn from it and humbly walk backwards while bowing. Not sure if you know who Mike Holt is.
@EMFExplorer
@EMFExplorer Ай бұрын
I would suggest taking a moment to read other comments before posting. I know very well who Mike Holt is and commend him for all of his great work over the many years he has been teaching people about safety, codes, and theory. However, everyone, even someone who is as you say "God's gift..." is wrong at times. I engaged Mike here, and he has still to this day not answered some very simple questions - such as how much current on a water pipe is "too much"? Running long cables to a remote grounding electrode - a water pipe on the other side of the house - and having multiple grounding electrodes far apart are also very much against Mike's own advice - in his own words and from his own lips in his videos.
@AJ_411
@AJ_411 4 ай бұрын
Doesn't holding the meter change the readings? I was told to set the meter 8-10 inches from devices/areas to measure and step back to read, otherwise we become part of the field and influence the reading. Does it maybe depend on the meter?
@ky841
@ky841 5 ай бұрын
if you issue with power you call an electrician, if you have issue with cable/tv/internet you call your isp. if both said is the other person's issue, have them both meet at your place and fix it. also where is the weather protection for your connector? last how much signal loss with this isolator? will every channel MER is same as before the isolator?
@mdrichards1985
@mdrichards1985 5 ай бұрын
While this may have fixed the voltage on the service drop. This can also cause all sorts of signal distortions to the customers equipment. If a home is found to be having electrical nuetral issues. Hire a licensed electrician to fix the issues. All severice points must be bonded at the pole and each home. When a homes nuetral does go bad and untilizes the coax outlets as a replacement , the lines melt under the load. Coax is not engineered to handle that type of current load. A service technician will remove that if he deems it is causing significant signal disruptions.
@EMFExplorer
@EMFExplorer 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate your sentiment of hiring an electrician. However, in 99.9% of cases the service neutral to the house is not bad. The electrical current takes the coax because electrical current takes...drumrollllll...all paths all the time. As per the NEC, common sense, circuit theory and prudent circuit design...electrical current should be confined to the intended conductors of that electrical circuit. Doing asinine things that allow current to take other paths must come to an end. Other solutions - devices that pass current and clamp on when voltage is present, for example, must be employed. You don't simply create another current path for current to take, because you don't want to go through the hassle and expense of DOING IT RIGHT. KeepItOnWires.org - Keep electrical current on the intended conductors - the appropriate conductors - of that electrical circuit and ONLY on those appropriate, intended conductors!!!
@grabasandwich
@grabasandwich 15 күн бұрын
I was recommended this video again when I did some searching after coming across the worst melted coax drop I've seen in 18 years of being a cable guy. 3 days ago I got a service call for someone's internet being down. The customer attached 2 pics of their aerial drop severely melted. When I got there, he said it was smoking the night before! I didn't know if the fault was still there, and my employer doesn't supply us with amp clamps, so I didn't touch anything. I called the power company since I was convinced there was a dangerous open neutral condition, and a lineman got there in 15-20 min. He didn't seem too concerned, but did say he's never seen an entire drop melted that bad, and he's been doing it 12 years. Anyway, he pulled the meter, ran some tests and concluded it was fine. I asked him if I could cut the old drop down while he was there, just in case. Thankfully it was uneventful, but I asked him if his tests would show if there's a fault between the meter and panel. Just as I figured, he said that's not his responsibility. Fair enough. He ended up staying the whole time I replaced the drop. I told the customer if it melts again to call an electrician ASAP. I don't know what originally caused it, but I wonder if the fault cleared itself when the house neutral heated up from some corrosion/resistance, but used the coax while doing so. I spent the first 15 years as a telco contractor, and their lines never do this as they're electrically isolated from the steel support strand that the power company bonds to, so even the telco drops' support strand won't carry current, unless the triplex drop contacts it enough to rub through it or something. Anyway, sorry for the long message.
@pauloantonio5056
@pauloantonio5056 5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much from Portugal.
@Ohaywood
@Ohaywood 5 ай бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾
@northviewcourt2902
@northviewcourt2902 5 ай бұрын
I'm all for trying to live with less EMF's but not by what you have shown in this video. You have violated NEC.
@northviewcourt2902
@northviewcourt2902 5 ай бұрын
You are a danger! You have no idea what you are talking about. You will be sued if anyone listens to your nonsense and does what you are suggesting and gets harmed. Take down this bullshit video, find a shell and hide under it.
@josecisnero6156
@josecisnero6156 5 ай бұрын
Well. Well well I spotted around 10 violation on that service installation, by the way you need to do some research on grounding and bonding it’s two different things, nm cable clams improperly installed , grounding electrode conductors landed at meter box, and is isolated from main disconnect (main panel) neutral and grounding conductor are illegally terminated into the main panel, the wiring to the right going to pvc box are supposed to be installed in a raceway, does the panel manufacturer allows the use of multiple over current protection brands , did you cahecknif at least pool pump is GFCI protected… the list goes on and on ….
@alexwurstner6101
@alexwurstner6101 5 ай бұрын
I think you are clueless as far as how electricity works. Get off youtube and go back to school. Quit misleading people with poor information. You have no clue what you are talking about
@DanHaruch
@DanHaruch 5 ай бұрын
This is a DANGEROUS video. The advice being given is in violation of the National Electrical Code 250.50 which states that all grounding electrodes are to be bonded together as part of a grounding electrode system. This video should be pulled down!! 250.50 Grounding Electrode System. All grounding electrodes as described in 250.52(A)(1) through (A)(7) that are present at each building or structure served shall be bonded together to form the grounding electrode system.
@EMFExplorer
@EMFExplorer 5 ай бұрын
the internal pipes are bonded for safety so that a potential fault could clear. Are you suggesting all the homes theoughout the country with plastic pipe water service are dangerous and going to get people killed?!?!?! Ground rods arent enough? What does the code say about "objectionable current" and how to stop it? Your comment is clearly not a well thought out comment. You haven't taken time to look at the entire issue from all sides. Why do you think it's OK to use a metal water service pipe as an electrical conductor for primary and secondary neutral current? Why do you think it's OK to cause the transformer effect by having a magnetic field that will induce current all over the place? How much neutral current on the water service pipe is "safe" and acceptible? Is there any limit? Nice try, but you should take time before you post. I would love to hear your answers to these questions truly.
@DanHaruch
@DanHaruch 5 ай бұрын
@@EMFExplorer No you're saying that. I'm saying that the NEC is very clear in that ALL grounding electrodes present MUST be bonded together as part of a grounding electrode system. Improper bonding of OTHER metal systems and enclosures is another topic and has nothing to do with intentionally disconnecting a grounding electrode. You stated that the Code doesn't require bonding of the metal underground water pipe which contradicts 250.50.
@EMFExplorer
@EMFExplorer 5 ай бұрын
​@@DanHaruch There are other areas of the codes that conflict with this. That's why I'm bringing up this discussion. If it took a wild video to do it, so be it. Questions no one, not even Mike Holt will answer: 1) Why does Mike Holt say he wants grounding electrodes in one place interconnected and not having long wires run a distance to them especially when there are other grounding electrodes...and this is exactly what the water pipe electrode does. 2) Why is it OK to use a water pipe as a permanent primary and secondary neutral conductor with measurable current flowing on it 24/7/365? 3) Why is it OK to cause magnetic fields and the transformer effect since using pipes as conductors causes imbalanced electrical service and magnetic fields that induce current in conductive paths? 4) If a house has ground rods, why is everyone worried about isolating the water service pipe just to blindly follow code and ignore the other problems? 5) Why does no one have a problem with plastic water service pipes but some people throw a fit when a metal water service pipe is isolated? 6) How much primary/secondary neutral current is acceptable on a copper water pipe? How much is "objectionable" ground current per NEC? I believe no one answers these, because it is a complex problem that everyone wants to sweep under the rug instead of actually solve together. So instead many appeal to emotion, personal attacks, or the authority of the limited code of their choosing, and ignore these serious questions. I would love for you to prove me wrong. ------------ I have shown how this practice violates numerous other NEC codes, causes problems, and there is a much safer alternative. It is outdated, unnecessary, and foolish to leave intact the low impedance path back to other buildings and bond to it. It should always be electrically isolated and only the internal plumbing should be bonded for safety. The building should not use this as a grounding electrode. In some areas they isolate it underground near the street so that the pipe can still be used as a grounding electrode without the objectionable current. But for most people they should isolate at the house. Plumbers and electricians should be helping to do this, not mindlessly repeating outdated information and practice that has been proven wrong. ----------- Thank you for your reply. I do show in other videos and have even written an ebook with pictures on using pex at the entrance to isolate. We have discussed that perhaps it should be a certain number of feet to reduce the risk of someone completing a circuit that is caused by a fault offsite or on-site. www.mikeholt.com/mojonewsarchive/GB-HTML/HTML/ObjectionableCurrent~20020610.htm 250.6 speaks of objectionable current. Many circumstances can cause it - the bonding to interconnected water networks is one of them, albeit not specifically listed of course. All these metal pipes and bonding only prove my point that you're making paths for faults to take on objects we live near/around. It's making things more dangerous not less dangerous. To have metal pipes introduces more problems. Lightning death is extremely uncommon. Electrocution is far far far more common. So I would rather have poly pipe coming in and poly pipe inside. If metal then break the metal and insulate it to protect against making contact or use an appropriate number of feet of poly pipe to help prevent connection. Bond the interior metal pipes to clear faults. Parallel conductors: www.electricallicenserenewal.com/Electrical-Continuing-Education-Courses/NEC-Content.php?sectionID=297.0 Notice pipes can't be used as conductors. Conductors have to be properly grouped, sized, same length, etc. Magnetic fields cause current, induction heating, voltage potential in some cases. Electrical current takes all paths and spreads amongst them according to resistance/impedance values. So once again we are complicating things, creating more paths to potentially electrocute humans, causing magnetic fields that create the transformer effect, mag fields that cause health effects, possible induction heating, a definite parallel conductor and using pipes for current when they shouldn't ever be used for such, electrocuting plumbers and city workers, and more. The only argument so far are is that code requires it - appeal to authority. The point of this conversation is to prove the code needs updating here. I've also pointed out the other NEC violations - objectionable current and parallel conductors. Actually there are two more - 1) all conductors of a circuit must be in the same cable/conduit/raceway and 2) conductors must be designed and approved for electrical current - you can't use pipes. I can look those up too as I don't have all of these memorized, but a simple Google search should find those as well.
@frankcastle6511
@frankcastle6511 5 ай бұрын
Wow. Big takeaway here is if you see electrical tape on the clamps in your ground system, remove it to make sure it is properly connected because someone altered it. "We dont ever want some electrician or plumber to come here and see that it is disconnected and say "oh, I better connect that because that's what you're supposed to do." Since you are asking people for references and dialogue, I will try to participate. The biggest red flag here even for the non-trained is when someone tries to show you how to get away with doing something to try to "give the illusion" (your words) to everyone else that may come inspect the work. You may want to consider increasing the number and size of ground rods to solve this problem, not removing a legally required part of the grounding system. Aside from AWWA Standards, the NEC does require this connection. The water pipe is not acting as a neutral or grounded conductor, but rather as a grounding conductor. You are possibly referring to an illegal neutral-to-ground connection, but that has nothing to do with what you comitting to do to the grounding system. That ground wire (which should be green or bare), goes to the other side of the pipe towards the house because there is a meter installed which can not be used for continuity of the grounding system. If the metal water piping system (utility or not) is installed in or attached to the building within 5', then according to 250.68(C) it must be bonded unless if the AHJ says otherwise. 250.50 says that the list of electrodes in 250.52(A)(1) through (A)(7) shall be used if they exist. Shall is mandatory. If it is there, then you must use it. 250.52(A)(1) helps eliminate your question about using mid-system metal fittings as it says it has to be a metal system of 10' or longer - please emphasis "system". This reference exists because it is telling you to count that metal system in the grounding electrode system if you have it. If you do not have a metal water piping system, then you ignore this. 250.104(A) says if you have a metal water piping system, it has to be bonded and it gives locations of where to do that bonding at. This is not up for debate on what you think is right. If you have a metal water piping system, then it must be bonded and in any of those locations. So, if you have that metal water piping system (you were required to bond it per 250.104 and per 250.52(A)(1) only if it is over 10'), you do so properly by following the stipulations in 250.53(D). This article tells you not to rely on meters or filters to keep continuity (that connection you faked) and that you will need a supplemental electrode. 250.53(D) only has the "if" in there because they are saying "if you had the system that 250.50 told you that you had to use, then you also need to do this..." That "if" is not there to be an "if you decided to use it". It seems irresponsible to tell people not only to avoid these legal requirements, but then to give a tutorial on how to make it "look like it is connected" to fool everyone is exactly what is wrong with our industry and shame on you for that. I guess everyone else is wrong, and you are the savior that knows the proper way? Do not take it from me - you have Mike Holt himself on here telling you to rethink what you are positing.
@EMFExplorer
@EMFExplorer 5 ай бұрын
Questions no one, not even Mike Holt will answer: 1) Why does Mike Holt say he wants grounding electrodes in one place interconnected and not having long wires run ar distance to them especially when there are other grounding electrodes...and this is exactly what the water pipe electrode does. 2) Why is it OK to use a water pipe as a permanent primary and secondary neutral conductor with measurable current flowing on it 24/7/365? 3) Why is it OK to cause magnetic fields and the transformer effect since using pipes as conductors csuses imbalanced electrical service and magnetic fields that induce current in conductive paths? 4) If a house has ground rods, why is everyone worried aboutnisolating the water service pipe judt to blindly follow code and ignore the other problems? 5) Why does no one have a problem with plastic water service pipes but some people throw a fit when a metal water service pipe is isolated? 6) How much primary/secondary neutral current is acceptible on a copper water pipe? How much is "objectionable" ground current per NEC? I believe no one answers these, because it is a complex problem that everyone wants to sweep under the rug instead of actually solve together. So instead many appeal to emotion, personal attacks, or the authority of the limited code of their chosing, and ignore these serious questions. I would love for you to prove me wrong.
@EMFExplorer
@EMFExplorer 5 ай бұрын
Increasing ground rods will make little difference in the readings on the pipe. In some circumstances increasing ground rods could raise the readings on the pipe. The solution is to either A) isolate the pipe and get rid of this ridiculous requirement in the code when we use ground rods in the 21st century. The other option is B) a device that will activate upon a fault and notify homeowners of fault so it can be fixed, but remain open when no fault is present. Please read and respond to my questions in the other post. Thank you for your comments.
@frankcastle6511
@frankcastle6511 5 ай бұрын
@@EMFExplorer If you perceive something I have said to be a personal or emotionally-driven attack, then please bring truth to it and correct it. Please do some reflection and determine if you know the answer to those questions yourself or not. If you do not know the answer to things like "how much current should there be?" you may want to heavily reconsider posting videos teaching people how to illegally alter those systems. No one is sweeping anything under the rug. It is an indeed complex theory. People go to school for years to become electricians, but I am not sure why when we can all go to KZfaq and learn from experts on how to deceive everyone else. Now, your questions. 1. Mike Holt does not make the rules, but he knows how to follow them. With that said, all that he and many others have tried to do is point out that the NEC requires interconnection of a certain list of items. I gave you the reference to that list already. As far as long wires are concerned, there are minimum spacing requirements for electrodes as well as something called the sphere of influence that can help reduce the resistance to ground. The more parts/surface area of the grounding system you have in the soil, the better, so a long wire interconnecting electrodes will not matter as long as it is sized and spaced properly per the NEC. 2. It is ok because it is going into the dirt. Current on the water pipe is not unusual. This is true even when the main breaker is off while the systems of neighbors are all properly grounded to a metal water piping system. If you are really worried about current, you could ask the power company to check the primary neutrals on the service transformer for not being properly grounded or for having highly resistive connections. The only danger that can happen is when someone puts themselves in series with that current. Mike Holt has an awesome video on this called "open neutrals". 3. I am not sure of what you are asking. An unbalanced load just means that there is more power on a certain phase of the service. I do not see how using the metal water piping system as a grounding electrode has anything to do with unbalancing a panel. Electromagnetic induction involves voltage, not current. If there is a voltage induced into the grounding system then the grounding systems does what it was designed to do and it and the earth become equipotential. 4. I am not sure I understand the question, again. What other problems? It seems to me the only person worried about isolating anything off is you. We are all telling you to include it, and for two reasons: 1. It is required by code. 2. It is required by code because it is a gigantic piece of metal in the ground that helps save lives if a ground-fault ever occurs. 5. Plastic water pipes have extremely high resistance; they are di-electric. Metal (especially copper) has a specific resistivity value much lower than something that voltage has a hard time flowing through like plastic. No one cares about plastic pipes because we are unlikely to get shocked by putting ourselves in series with a circuit containing plastic conductors. 6. Less than 1 amp is normal, but it can be more. There is no code section that says a limit on the current in the grounding electrode system. The NEC requires reference to Table 250.66 to determine the size of wire needed based on the service size. Using Table 310.16, you can determine if the amperage measured is within the limits of the wire size. It sounds like the device you are talking about is called a ground fault breaker and it is already extensively required.
@shaunkranish
@shaunkranish 5 ай бұрын
​@frankcastle6511 Thank you for your reply. Yes, I realize Mike Holt doesn't write the code. He does have influence though because of the position he has attained through his years of hard work. He has stated don't run long long wires to connect to the grounding electrodes. The longer the wire the greater the resistance becomes and the more it defeats the purpose. He also has stated don't keep driving more rods and connect them with a long wire as that invites transients/etc. This is exactly what a water pipe becomes when the panel is on the other side of the house and the rods are by the panel, then you run a stupid long wire to bond to the water. Why are you worried if the internal pipe network is bonded but there is a break? You keep mentioning the code and also safety. I'm saying this causes problems that I will explain in more depth...Your mention of the code is not a valid argument - it is an appeal to authority. I have never seen any data whatsoever that shows people with poly water pipes have been killed more than people with metal water pipes bonded. In fact I'm sure it's the opposite! More plumbers have been killed because of this bonding to the city water network that creates a very low impedence path and in situations like...broken neutral to the house...the plumber gets killed. So, I have just given an example real world of something that has really happened. This shows an advantage to isolating the city network and only bonding the interior site network. When I said imbalanced I did not mean the current on the legs. I meant overall current on the service drop. The electrical service should be balanced as far as ingress and egress current. A little "leaks" into ground through the ground rods and other connections, so there is always some imbalance. I'm measured countless services. When there is a metal water pipe coming from a city's metal network and connected to everyone else...this imbalance of current is usually many many times higher than just ground rods cause. That is because the paths are so much less impedence. 1 amp that is imbalanced (unopposed or uncanceled since the opposite current path is not located physically near and following the same physical path and causes enormous AC magnetic fields and will cause health issues in most if not everyone. Where did you get the 1 amp figure from? I'm saying that pipes are not intended to carry current in regular conditions. They should not be used to do so. Electrical cables are to carry current. The current needs to stay on those damn cables. Electricians need to stop using the earth and plumbing networks to move current. It is improper and illegal. That's why the NEC mentions objectionable current on grounded objects like pipes and that measures can be taken to get the objectionable current off of these objects. It's supposed to be on wires...always. But you seem to be saying it's OK to have it on pipes 24/7/365 and then threw out a seemingly arbitrary number with no citation. I'm saying it's not OK. Only in a momentary fault situation wherein the fault is then cleared. I was not speaking of a GFI. I mean a voltage clamping device that when voltage reaches x it clamps and closes the circuit to allow the fault to flow current temporarily. Eg. Someone loses a neutral and it could then close the otherwise-isolated city to internal house plumbing. But it would need to notify the homeowner so they can fix it. As it stands now some people do have bad neutrals and are using their water pipe u knowingly, putting themselves and plumbers and neighbors in danger! I recognize that you have been respectful and carry on a good debate. I was speaking of some other posters so I did not mean to say those sentiments were directed at you. The "savior" comment was a bit personal/emotive and unfit for discussion. I would encourage you to stop appealing to authority though. I'm saying the code is outdated and misleading when not taking the objectionable current into account. The code also bans parallel conductors except certain situations of course. It never allows a water pipe to be a damned parallel conductor. Yet this is what has happened everywhere. It causes problems and puts people at risk of electrocution and cumulative EMF ac frequency exposure that can cause many health issues. Houses with poly service pipes are safer than houses with metal water service pipe. Prove me wrong. I suggest they clarify in the code and use just ground rods, bond internal pipes of significant length and relativity to appliances, and isolate the incoming water line with dielectric unions or pex. That will solve all the problems and make everyone safer. So we need to be able to have this conversation without just saying "the code requires it." The code needs to be constantly improved. I hope I have laid out why this is a problem and that there are solutions to it.
@frankcastle6511
@frankcastle6511 5 ай бұрын
@@shaunkranish If the code requires it now, we do it now. Just because we do not agree to do something does not change the fact that code requires it now and so it must be followed. I hate paying taxes, but Uncle Sam will surely come knocking if I do not. We can try to make legislation to change that, but for the time being, we must be compliant. You are holding everyone to a standard of giving you code references, and yet you say things about the code without references. Not to be pedantic, but there are more than a few instances of this. I got the 1 amp figure from what I considered "normal" - averages and figures that I have seen. I also made sure to mention that it could be more. It could be 15 amps for all I care, but it is above what I typically see and would be a reason for contacting the power company. I was reading some of the other comments, and I think I understand your goal here is to reduce EMFs, right? I know you are jus trying to help, but you have to understand that there is a solid foundation for why we have that grounding requirement and that it does still exist. If you would like to challenge that NEC requirement, you can get in touch with NFPA by way of the styling manual. Let's say that you remove the ground connection as done in the video. Then you come along and touch the interior (home-ward) side of the grounding system and simultaneously grab ahold of the side you just disconnected that is also possibly being backfed from others or in a condition with an open neutral. You would have put yourself in series with that circuit, and you could die. It just take 5 miliamps across the heart to totally fry you. That is a pretty big deal. While your goal is amicable in trying to help those wanting to reduce EMFs, I hope that you will come to an understanding of why that code regulation exists and that you will remove this video after seeing the damage you could cause. This video is currently only serving as a manual to get someone or someone they love badly hurt. The only way removing a piece of a metal water pipe out of the system would work would be if you removed the entire metal water piping system from the grounding electrode system, but even then you are deleting something that can help save lives by delivering excess current into the earth. You are right, it is not designed as a current carrying conductor, but I would sure be glad to have it there when something bad happens. Instead of showing people a way to cheat the system, why not show them the proper way to solve this and just install a dielectric piece that enters the structure? Just point to that entrance pipe you disconnected from the grounding system and say "have your local contractor swap this out for non-conductive material". You would be helping the industry which it sounds like you may have worked in yourself, reducing the EMFs by eliminating tie-ins from local services, and not having all these comments.
@Mareka6969
@Mareka6969 5 ай бұрын
Please don't do this, don't be this guy. This is definitely required by the (NFPA 70), National Electrical Code, Article 250 which covers the grounding and bonding of electrical systems. The grounding electrode conductor is not intended to carry current under normal conditions, but it provides a path to the grounding electrode in order to limit voltage caused by things like lightning, power line surges, or unintentional contact with higher-voltage lines. I understand you probably made this video because you're worried about exposure to EMF radiation. I can think of many other things around your house that expose you to higher levels of EMF on a daily basis like smartphones, wireless routers, air pods, even some foods contain small amounts of radioactive elements like bananas.
@shaunkranish
@shaunkranish 5 ай бұрын
That's what ground rods are for. Are you saying houses with poly water service are inherently unsafe? Do you ground to plastic? You should read comments before commenting yourself and take more time to think before commenting. You are contributing to noise and not intelligent debate. Houses with grounding electrodes don't need the water service bonded. Internal pipes, yes should be bonded. But it's OK to have an electrical break such as a dielectric union or a portion of pex to break objectionable current such as this.
@Mareka6969
@Mareka6969 5 ай бұрын
@@shaunkranish Sir, no, we do not bond to plastic. The water main in the video is clearly copper, not plastic, I didn't say anything in my comment about plastic or PEX.. The NEC requires a minimum of two grounding electrodes, unless one electrode has a resistance to earth less than 25 ohms. There is a reason the electrician who wired this house used the water main as a grounding electrode. By you removing the grounding electrode conductor that is bonding the water main, you are creating a shock hazard. Also, microplastics in water suck, copper ftw.
@EMFExplorer
@EMFExplorer 5 ай бұрын
Most of the electricians who have been commenting here state that the metal water pipe "must" be bonded, no matter what. So even if you had 3 grounding electrodes (rods) over by the meter, they'd still want to run a lonnnnnngg wire over to the water supply and bond it where it comes in the foundation. I have outlined in other comments here (I am Shaun Kranish) all of the MANY problems with bonding to the water pipe. The solution is to isolate the pipe after it comes in, insulate the little stub or whatever, and rely upon real ground rods. Bonding to the pipe creates an alternate low-impedance path for primary and secondary neutral current to flow. We turn the pipe into a conductor for normal everyday current instead of an emergency route for emergency current. 1) Pipes are not allowed to be used as conductors - violation of NEC 2) Using it as such creates magnetic fields and corresponding heating, current, and voltage potentials (transformer effect), 3) Parallel conductors are not allowed except in limited circumstances and with restrictions - NEC violation 4) Current-carrying conductors must all be along the same path - NEC violation 5) The current flowing on these pipes is objectionable current as mentioned in the NEC 6) Remote grounding electrodes increase likelihood of conducting lightning through the building 7) Magnetic fields, especially of high-frequency, are associated with health problems and listed as a Group 2B carcinogen by the World Health Organization 8) Allowing current to flow on metal pipes has killed many workers as they work on pipes. Perhaps copper is healthier than plastic - I can't say. But I can say that magnetic fields cause health problems. I've personally experienced and seen it in people. I've had numerous clients who can feel the moment I physically cut their copper pipe. They are in another room even and I'm not using a saw. They can feel the change in the environment the instant those magnetic fields are removed - a sense of calm and peace usually. I've felt it myself too. It is a terrible practice to use pipes as conductors, and it is illegal. So let's work out a solution together. I propose we purposely electrically insulate the incoming line with a portion of pex. Sort of like how 18 inches (or whatever) of copper or steel is required coming out of a water heater - pex should be required entering the building. Then we insulate the metal coming in before the pex break and then bond the interior metal pipe network for safety and call it a day. Use ground rods so that we aren't running current on pipes and causing these problems.
@electvolt67
@electvolt67 5 ай бұрын
Congrats discovering normal functioning electricity. Keep studying, you'll catch up. None of that current is going through your body at the pool. That's why you bond it, for near zero potential. When you touch a hot buss and you're not grounded, do you feel anything? No, because there is zero potential. If everything around you had 120v as well as you....you won't feel it. Bond everything appropriately to code and walk away.
@loslos7096
@loslos7096 6 ай бұрын
center tap in transformer from nuetral
@johnmcdermott6233
@johnmcdermott6233 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Comcast or most other cable providers will remove this as soon as they see it. Call your cable company if you're having issues with voltage on your lines.
@marceloresende3436
@marceloresende3436 6 ай бұрын
Like and comment to help the channel.
@MrDragonlarry
@MrDragonlarry 6 ай бұрын
OMG, another buy my products or you will get cancer and die scare tactic. By the way, the pool water is bonded to the grounding system as well creating a zero potential difference. That is the whole point of the National Electrical Code's "Equipotential Bonding Grid".
@charliearlieo8671
@charliearlieo8671 6 ай бұрын
I had this happen to me had a full leg 120v on all my water inlets flipped breaker by breaker found it on the condensing unit circuit Rand conduit and new wire to unit flipped breaker immediately tripped dead fault it ended up being the contactor on the unit crazy stuff
@shaunkranish
@shaunkranish 6 ай бұрын
Check my other videos. This is why we like to isolate the water pipe from the city network, but bond it to the electrical on the building side (internal piping). Had yours been properly bonded, it would have tripped the breaker on that circuit immediately and there never would have been a risk of electrocution.
@user-yf8ex6gh6r
@user-yf8ex6gh6r 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video! While our Samsung fridge did NOT state it was a smart device, the meter told me otherwise. I am extremely careful what is brought in our home (even have the smart tvs on clickers to turn them completely off at night). The comments below helped us determine where the WiFi connection was at. It is a 2022 model so it did not look the same as this video. The connector was found by the hinge door on the right on the top of the fridge itself. Tested it with the meter and ZERO emissions now! Boom!
@nadyudzhin
@nadyudzhin 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing, we are trying to clean our house from radiation, and all new appliances just full of it
@jfangio9260
@jfangio9260 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@johnwright456
@johnwright456 7 ай бұрын
Got 7 volts on pipes turn off dryer breaker goes away
@MrBrianDuga
@MrBrianDuga 7 ай бұрын
Could we also dig down into the ground at an arbitrary point and install a section of PEX between the meter and the street shutoff? Then the bonding in the basement stays in tact and works as a good ground. Is that legal?
@shaunkranish
@shaunkranish 7 ай бұрын
You could, but do you really want pipe joints under ground? That's a ton of work, too. There's no downside to doing it inside. You still bond the pipes - just on the house side only and NOT on the "street side" of the plastic pex or double-dielectric-union break.
@kamaaina2012
@kamaaina2012 8 ай бұрын
Thats exactly what I experienced chasing down EMF traced to water line. detected 2A yes 2A not milliamps..current after going to my Neutral return at Service drop where ground wire is connected. Found Neighbor Neutral not connected, their return was solely through water pipe . I have power transformer in front of house so all "Poor" neutrals follow water line to my house to the neutral return I have..
@vfsd234
@vfsd234 5 ай бұрын
May I inquire what symptoms you had in this situation? We have similar issue.
@wrennmyere939
@wrennmyere939 8 ай бұрын
Great and so helpful - Thank you!!! Guessing on a Samsung smart stoves would this be a similar disconnect...???
@imlistening1137
@imlistening1137 8 ай бұрын
Wow! You made this 8 years ago! I had no idea they’ve been forcing this on us so long. I wanted to know how to stop the use of my wi-fi cuz it slows everything down to have all these smart devices on. Thank you.
@findinghealththoughfoodand5064
@findinghealththoughfoodand5064 8 ай бұрын
Does this work for the newer models
@oyamsbabe4028
@oyamsbabe4028 9 ай бұрын
I have learned so much from you. I’m having a plumber install a plastic water meter from an idea from an old video of yours. It would be the more economical way than inserting a pvc. I don’t have the clamp meter, but as a sensitive person, I get very uncomfortable getting near the incoming pipe in my basement which explains the situation in our home. I hope the plastic water meter helps, along with the suggestions of the grounding idea on same video. I would truly like to get your help to go over our home and see if there are other problems we can take care of to reduce my suffering as someone with sensitivity. Thank you again for these life saving info on your videos going back years.
@josephkinser7974
@josephkinser7974 9 ай бұрын
i have a connection sparking at washing machine. pretty freaky
@MelLar257
@MelLar257 9 ай бұрын
anyone know how to do this on an LG LFXS29626S?
@williamjohnson650
@williamjohnson650 9 ай бұрын
New World Order Fridge!
@williamjohnson650
@williamjohnson650 9 ай бұрын
They want to harm us!
@RS54321
@RS54321 9 ай бұрын
It would've been nice to see the reading before and after disabling the radio transmitter.
@eugenepohjola258
@eugenepohjola258 9 ай бұрын
Howdy. I feel obligated to differ. If one absolutely must disconnect the meter jumper make sure the house plumbing is properly bonded elsewhere. In my mind the magnetic health hazard is a bag of hot air. Regards.
@JodyBC1
@JodyBC1 9 ай бұрын
What voltage did you have from buss to wire when disconnected?
@eugenepohjola258
@eugenepohjola258 9 ай бұрын
Howdy. Flippin' dangerous. If one has an electrical boiler the resistors will corrode and cause electricity to leak into the water. It is not an if. It is a when. Unbonded house piping may carry full 115 Volts in worst case, without the breaker triggering. If unbonding like this, at least check that the house piping is bonded in the boiler. Bond the piping to the ground terminal in the boiler electrical box. If separate ground is not available (older systems) in the box, then bond the piping to the neutral terminal. No disrespect. But the magnetic fields are so weak, in my mind, they have no effect on health. Should that be the case we would see cancer deaths follow high voltage power transmission lines. For myself I regard these theories being hooey alongside other theories like amalgam tooth fillings, Bermuda and Roswell. But to all his own. Regards.
@H750S
@H750S 10 ай бұрын
does that house have a separate ground rod or two? or is the waterpipe the only ground for the panel/disconnect?
@shaunkranish
@shaunkranish 10 ай бұрын
Most of the houses we see already have ground rods - 2 of them - but still have metal pipes and bonding. The metal pipe bonding is terrible. Always needs to be isolated with plastic pipe and bonding removed.
@H750S
@H750S 10 ай бұрын
@@shaunkranish thanks for clarifying.
@JACK-wh6jl
@JACK-wh6jl 10 ай бұрын
TERRIBLE !!! YOU NEVER SAY WHAT YOU DID TO FIX ANYTHING !!!!!