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@johnnyfish6051
@johnnyfish6051 7 күн бұрын
Your videos are great. Very well done. Thank you.
@sunbather1576
@sunbather1576 Ай бұрын
Incredible video and incredible series. As a wargamer, I love how you explained the rather unstructured OOB of the pro-Confederate troops @16:22. This and everything else is all the more valuable since there are so few books about this part of the Civil War. Thank you for your effort with this series, I imagine a lot of hours went into this!
@keithanderson6465
@keithanderson6465 Ай бұрын
Very well done!
@michaeldavis9357
@michaeldavis9357 2 ай бұрын
An excellent description of a much misunderstood battle. Enjoyed it thoroughly
@timmylee41
@timmylee41 2 ай бұрын
Nice presentation, the summary of the aftermath was great.
@cortwill4085
@cortwill4085 3 ай бұрын
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@bryanwiedeman3154
@bryanwiedeman3154 3 ай бұрын
Awesome work..Headsand shoulders above everyone else. Most have railrroad tracks going past Springfield.
@gyrospinup
@gyrospinup 3 ай бұрын
You never state what started this. Lincoln had told the Missouri governor that Missouri could be neutral. Shortly afterwards, Lincoln sent union troops into St Louis and the troops killed many civilians. Lincoln already knew he needed St Louis due to the Mississippi and Missouri rivers transporting confederate supplies. The union troops then invaded the Missouri state capital. The governor and many elected officials escaped to the Ozarks. Lincoln appointed a new "non elected" governor and state officials, which is against the constitution. The governor joined Missouri into the confederacy at Neosho, Missouri, making Missouri the twelfth star on the confederate flag. Kentucky later became the thirteenth and final confederate state due to Lincoln also lying to them by saying they could be neutral. Without use of the Mississippi and Missouri rivers in Missouri, the confederacy sent supplies up the Arkansas and then the White River to Forsyth, Mo. close to Branson. The amount of supplies needed for Missouri was limited due to only small barges that could be brought up the White River. It was very difficult to transport large supplies with wagons in the ozarks of northwest Arkansas and southwest Missouri. Once Arkansas fell, Lee knew that he was screwed, and most all focus was east of the Mississippi.
@gyrospinup
@gyrospinup 3 ай бұрын
FYI: The movie The Outlaw Josey Wales was about a actual Missouri guerilla named Bill Wilson. Towards the end of the movie, when asked who he is, instead of saying Josey Wales, he says Bill Wilson.
@gyrospinup
@gyrospinup 3 ай бұрын
The people around Springfield were not mostly pro union as you state. They had family involuntarily on both sides. Brothers fighting brothers. The union and conferates would stop at farms and give the option to join or die. Most Ozarkians were too poor to have slaves and the ground was too rocky for plantations and wanted to stay neutral as Lincoln had said they could. After being lied to and with the Kansas/Missouri border war still in recent memory, they tended to side with the confederacy. Springfield had no choice but to be friendly with whichever side came through town. If one homestead was for one side and their neighbor was for the other, they never knew since nobody spoke of being for either, knowing that neighbors would be against neighbors.
@christopherrose6702
@christopherrose6702 4 ай бұрын
My ancestor, Marquis (Marcus) DeLafeyette Rose was in the 4th Missouri Calvary (Union). He joined in 1862 so he was part of the railroad defense in Northern Missouri. He lived and died in Warrensburg. Thank you so much for this video! Missouri Civil War history is not as well known .
@2012photograph
@2012photograph 4 ай бұрын
Alot these Generals is first time brought my attention.Thank you for knowledge on Civil War
@Zarastro54
@Zarastro54 5 ай бұрын
There’s a fine line between being brave by leading from the front, and being foolish by failing to delegate tasks. Generals have no business personally doing reconnaissance, and to order your detail back for fear of _their_ safety is just reckless. Jackson died the same way.
@DingaLingu
@DingaLingu 6 ай бұрын
Show me
@vladomatoski1634
@vladomatoski1634 6 ай бұрын
Were Quantril Raiders and Bloody Bill Anderson involved in these battles?
@alphascentar6246
@alphascentar6246 7 ай бұрын
Great video and very professional.
@avenaoat
@avenaoat 8 ай бұрын
I think it was big strategic mistake after Pea Ridge, Glorieta Pass, ensure South California and to occupy Arizona to neglect the Trans-Mississippi theater. Funny Halleck arrived from West and instead of Fredericksburg campaign (Burnside's disaster) he should have persuaded Lincoln to increase the aid to the West! May it be Halleck Grant personal antipathy was the root case?
@justmehello5543
@justmehello5543 8 ай бұрын
my kin fought in the Slaybacks for Price and Shelby.
@pmcclaren1
@pmcclaren1 9 ай бұрын
that REBEL YELL sounding 'victory' once again; troops from MO, AR, TX & LA; all brave CONFEDERATE Warriors!
@johndcornell6341
@johndcornell6341 22 күн бұрын
So who wound up winning the war???
@garynewis8293
@garynewis8293 10 ай бұрын
What a incredible story
@tomotto3197
@tomotto3197 10 ай бұрын
Outstanding detail, (none of the others catch) I have to watch it over and over again to catch all the detail.
@RandyLeviGarrett
@RandyLeviGarrett 10 ай бұрын
Hard to watch this because of the mispronounced town names by obviously not Mo. People
@jamesorth6460
@jamesorth6460 11 ай бұрын
McCulloch won't be so lucky at the Battle of Elkhorn Tavern the following year
@drumraider
@drumraider Жыл бұрын
Very well done video! Great production and content. Commenting in the hopes you're blessed by the algorithm and to encourage future work.
@davidsabo405
@davidsabo405 Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@davidsabo405
@davidsabo405 Жыл бұрын
👑
@gyrospinup
@gyrospinup Жыл бұрын
Lincoln told the Missouri governor that Missouri could stay neutral then soon invaded St. Louis. The Missouri river also at St Louis could get confederate supplies to KC and to the west which would be a serious problem for the union. The CSA ended up relying on small river boats going up the White river to SW Missouri which couldnt transport much.
@outdoorlife5396
@outdoorlife5396 Жыл бұрын
Well one thing is for sure, the Confederates had the Federals, outnumbered, one of the few times in the CW. That said, the Confederates won, they held the field. Kind of like the Federals held the field at Antietam. Heavey loses both sides.
@koletrane1286
@koletrane1286 Жыл бұрын
Thank You for this bit of Missouri History.
@shellnexus1
@shellnexus1 Жыл бұрын
This video was really well done! I can't imagine how much effort and time it took to make this. Definitely deserves way more views.
@STLguy
@STLguy Жыл бұрын
Great video
@trajan0707
@trajan0707 Жыл бұрын
Great video.. As always for the South in the West, something silly happens, bad luck. If those two Generals were not killed, Union would have lost this battle.
@herecomesaregular8418
@herecomesaregular8418 Жыл бұрын
I think you are assuming too much. Van Dorn had his army run ragged even before the battle, and too far from their supply train for it to be of any use. (I mean they actually couldn't find their supply train at one point). Curtis was also an excellent defensive General and excellent administrator. He was the only commander to ever figure out how to use Sigel (relegate him to managing artillery, something he was actually good at). McCulloch was largely untested. Wilson's Creek was a typical early war farce of a "battle" where confusion and chaos reigned, and the Union Army was outnumbered and only withdrew after running out of ammunition. All this is to say we actually don't know how he would've faired if he gad lived. (I mean we know he was prone to impulsivity, which is what got him killed). His subordinate who was killed was even more untested, so no way to know. The rest of the war would show that Price was...well, mediocre at best.
@Zarastro54
@Zarastro54 5 ай бұрын
Luck is made. Those two generals were killed because they were far too close to the front than they should have been. Doing solo reconnaissance as a GENERAL and leading your men from the front out of a wood into unknown enemy numbers is literally asking to be shot, and the Union obliged.
@luffyh7193
@luffyh7193 Жыл бұрын
Will you continue
@historyfederation7146
@historyfederation7146 Жыл бұрын
We are working on several at the moment.
@onceuponapriori
@onceuponapriori Жыл бұрын
Fantastic videos, thank you!
@chrislackey2170
@chrislackey2170 Жыл бұрын
i love history about my beautiful state
@thoughtfulpug1333
@thoughtfulpug1333 Жыл бұрын
Nice stuff, man. You deserve way more views and subs.
@shellnexus1
@shellnexus1 Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe I’m a whole year late but this is great content and deserve more views!!
@TheJoeboy94
@TheJoeboy94 Жыл бұрын
There are more videos coming in future!
@cortwill4085
@cortwill4085 3 ай бұрын
@shellnexus1 , RIGHT 😂!?!? @TheJoeBoy94 , hopefully!🤞😂🤞
@rc59191
@rc59191 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the awesome work dude you're doing a great job. Hope you cover more of the Civil War out West it doesn't get near the attention it does in the Eastern theater.
@scottmcdonald5237
@scottmcdonald5237 Жыл бұрын
🤯
@infinitelightcouncil
@infinitelightcouncil Жыл бұрын
Beautifully done- I grew up in Oregon County in the 70s. Some of the old people then still called it The Battle of Oak Hills- my great grandfather was a toddler during that battle and claimed he remembered the windows rattling- they were about a mile from the fighting
@williamnapier1516
@williamnapier1516 Жыл бұрын
Where is Oregon County?
@infinitelightcouncil
@infinitelightcouncil Жыл бұрын
@@williamnapier1516 Deep Ozarks Southern Missouri directly on the Arkansas border. Not much there now. But the ancestor I spoke of was an infant over by Springfield.
@TheJoeboy94
@TheJoeboy94 Жыл бұрын
Been a while, keep them coming!!
@WarhawkYT
@WarhawkYT Жыл бұрын
nice video guys! Ole Hampton on the loose
@thoughtfulpug1333
@thoughtfulpug1333 Жыл бұрын
6:40 - 6:43 Weird audio bit. Sounds like another voiceover layer on top of the actual one. Otherwise, excellent video. Weird how you've gotten no press for these yet by any other big history tuber.
@historyfederation7146
@historyfederation7146 Жыл бұрын
Weird audio bit detected. Damn. Thank you for your comment!
@jonathanbarnes3061
@jonathanbarnes3061 11 ай бұрын
It's good, history good, audio spot before Van Dorn's blunders skips and over swiftly. Don't stop making videos first rate, thx for taking the time.
@johnrohlfs4185
@johnrohlfs4185 Жыл бұрын
Intercepted by USA union Cherokee American Troops,ie #178973 John Robert Bruffett Junior USA flag!!!!!
@darthvadersith514
@darthvadersith514 Жыл бұрын
Great video! And thank you for pointing out that Jackson and Price were in communication with Jefferson Davis and asked him for weapons before the Camp Jackson Affair even started! How can anyone possibly call those guys "neutral" and what Lyon and his forces were doing "illegal" (as some Missourians still do to this day) when they were already in cahoots with the Confederacy? If Lyon had done nothing, the St. Louis Arsenal would have been attacked, and you would have had a repeat of the Fort Sumter attack.
@fandoria09
@fandoria09 Жыл бұрын
And a much different outcome in our early history.
@gyrospinup
@gyrospinup Жыл бұрын
Lincoln started moving troops into St Louis soon after he agreed that Missouri could remain neutral. The Missouri governor didn't like that Lincoln had lied to him. Lincoln knew that the Missouri river at St Louis could allow CSA supplies to get to KC and on westward. Lincoln knew that he couldn't keep the agreement, and the governor also knew it. The arsenal was state, not federal. Lincoln was violating state rights by blocking access to state weapons with federal troops.
@bigschnieders1931
@bigschnieders1931 Жыл бұрын
​@@gyrospinupLincoln manipulated the war.
@bigschnieders1931
@bigschnieders1931 Жыл бұрын
I disagree, what we need to bring back is genuine federalism which recognized the Free, Sovereign and Independent status of the States. Restoring agency of the general government. As James Madison explained: “The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. The operations of the federal government will be most extensive and important in times of war and danger; those of the State governments, in times of peace and security. As the former periods will probably bear a small proportion to the latter, the State governments will here enjoy another advantage over the federal government. The more adequate, indeed, the federal powers may be rendered to the national defense, the less frequent will be those scenes of danger which might favor their ascendancy over the governments of the particular States. If the new Constitution be examined with accuracy and candor, it will be found that the change which it proposes consists much less in the addition of NEW POWERS to the Union, than in the invigoration of its ORIGINAL POWERS. The regulation of commerce, it is true, is a new power; but that seems to be an addition which few oppose, and from which no apprehensions are entertained. The powers relating to war and peace, armies and fleets, treaties and finance, with the other more considerable powers, are all vested in the existing Congress by the articles of Confederation. The proposed change does not enlarge these powers; it only substitutes a more effective mode of administering them.”
@gyrospinup
@gyrospinup Жыл бұрын
@@bigschnieders1931 People do not now nor then understand that states had the right to resign from the union, same as the country resigned from England in 1776. The amount of slaves was already drastically decreasing and only very few owned slaves considering the population. The states that resigned did not do so strictly due to slavery. Being overtaxed and told not to have commerce with other countries for products that Lincoln wanted businesses to practically give for free to the highly populated North was a major part of it. In certain states such as Missouri and Kentucky, in which he promised could stay neutral, Lincoln caused brothers to fight against brothers which is unacceptable. People need not to look at it as if they would have been a yank or reb during the war and look at the whole picture unbiased. They will then notice how the feds disobeyed the constitution. People had better open their eyes with how it's being done right now.
@TheJoeboy94
@TheJoeboy94 Жыл бұрын
Lovely stuff!
@carlkelly2900
@carlkelly2900 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Overview Team!
@carlkelly2900
@carlkelly2900 Жыл бұрын
Well done