💔 To me it was NIS abandoning the amazing masterful 2D pixel art characters the series had, towards the now bland '3D chibi style' Disgaea 6 & 7 have

I got stuck on brain guy

My game will always be Makai Kingdom, it got me interested in disgaea in general.

As for auto battle, I don't see it as an issue, I heard they made it to where you have to clear the stage first to earn it which is fine. I just remember eventually getting to the point of one shotting to 9999 anyway so it doesn't seem like it'd take much more effort at that point lol

I played every Disgaea TRPG upto 5 and missed out on this one. I can see I didn't miss out on much.

It was kinda expensief on release so i just forgot to get it 🤔

Unironically, as someone whose brain rotted thanks to Cookie Clicker, this seems appealing to me.

It seems a good thing I skipped this game after playing 5 and went straight to 7.

My biggest issue is just how generic it got, and how auto battle streamlined everything Other Disgaeas I would get excited everytime I got a new skill, this one I would get while grinding afk I wouldn`t even notice Every character have a 3x3 skill Monsters dont feel as unique as before Every tactical problem is solved by letting auto battler go for a couple minutes when doing the main quest

I started this series from the very first PS1 release all the way till 5, then I got tired. Because they just keep pumping up numbers and it just got boring and too grindy.

Disgaea 6 is the very definition of "If everybody is super, no one is." That's why proper progression exists in RPGs.

My favourite Disgae is 4. Nobody will ever beat the absolute ham that is Valvatorez

I'm a big disgaea fan since i was a child and i was already instantly turned off trying the demo on switch and seeing the auto-everything features pushed into your face and thousands of micro transaction items as it's dlcs as if disgaea just became an idle mobile game where you can just buy everything to instantly win and don't further need even play it anymore, just because disgaea is super grindy doesn't mean it needs auto buttons and i fully believe since it has lived without one up until now where probably they got a gacha game designer to decide that. And i can quite believe that ''transition to 3d was rocky'' as the switch can't even handle the game and plays under 30fps which feels incredibly unpleasing compared to 5 where everything is fast paced and feels good.

I was on board with you until you used dub(garbage) voice footage. Now this whole video is voided because Ive never seen a dub enjoyer with more than 20IQ. Real monkey with a keyboard moment

getting recommended a disgaea vid gotta be the highlight of my day

Maybe D6 felt like a half-baked game probably because it is? With them transitioning the series to 3D probably cost them a lot of work for the engine, so they could only deliver barebones class roster and the need to pad fillers to compensate for lack of content they made. D7 is the more polished and complete game, probably D8 and onwards would be even better.

This was the first game I ever beat Baal, and I felt nothing. I didn’t earn it in any way, I just set my units to auto grind for several hours and then killed him. Sure, it was just the 9999 Baal, but beating him in any capacity should have had me excited. It felt like such a hollow victory that I just kinda quit playing D6.

oh GV 100% will come back. Either Someone follows his and mobius ass in or They fuck up and need another new dragon related deus ex machine.

Easy game plays itself and started off with 100k hp and 10k stats. Its stupid power creep and idle

Dang a D3 guide in 2024? My man, keeping on keeping on!

Based review, gameplay>>>>story People need to learn that plot is only half of the content of a game, sometimes even less, sometimes basically ZERO Because last time I checked, no one complains about the lack of story in Chess or Monopoly, or using videogames as example: most Mario Bros games on the NES and SNES They really fumbled the bag with the lore in this game and the writers really should have shown more respect and care for the prior games, but they still nailed the most important aspect of any game: THE GAMEPLAY the story is only ever truly a absolute in games that are narrative-focused down to its very gameplay, like interactive fiction types of games like RPG+Visual Novel hybrids or Dating Sims but no, this is a action plataformer, story CAN take the backseat here. The only thing I dislike in this review is the gacha comparisons, can we not start calling random drops "gacha" please? This is just stage rewards have worked in many games since the early 90s, it doesn't work like actual gacha to begin withz Xenoblade 2 had actual a in-game gacha, that would be a proper comparison, not this

I feel like Disgaea 6 was supposed to be meant for prepping newbies for post game in other Disgaea games. I do like the story of the game a lot, and it makes sense Zed would be the most powerful protag thanks to super reincarnation. I know what they were going for and they could have gone about it a bit better. I don’t necessarily agree it had to follow the conventions of the other games closely.

Cientific notation: am i a joke to you?

When numbers get so high they are incomprehensible, it defeats the purpose.

Disgaea 6 really dropped the ball. Disagea 7 does better.... But not by much.

Ive been a Disgaea enthusiast since the very first release of the first one. 6 was such a chore that I've held off getting 7. Waiting for the inevitable "Plus" version of it.

Any opinion on Disgaea 7 ??? I played 6 and after the main game was like I dont want to play this anymore so I still have doubts if 7 is worth

the only reason im not playing this game is my pc can't handle it :C but im working in getting a better one

NIS was close to getting bankrupt during the Disgaea 6 period and most likely released this game prematurely. The 3D really destroyed the game for me, it was obvious they were not comfortable with it yet and it help to create many problems, many listed in the video.

Having played 1 and 2 extensively and 4 only a little, I understand why this game would feel or seem this way comparitively. I see what they did more as an attempt at "quality of life" stye of changes in order to help new people into the series and be "accessible". The problems though is how it kinda also defeats some of the purposes or the feel of the system at the same time. Sometimes I consider playing the older disgaea games but knowing its gonna end up a time sink makes consider against it with my now much more limited time. On the other end though, if its all automated at some point, whats the point to engage with the game? Some of the points like less character choices is probably to attempt to streamline it too but feel it also removes some customizeability that I enjoyed previously and do understand how it feels like a downgrade.

So that's why this game was murdered by steam reviews. I always found the snowballing effect of taking a good for nothing group of character into godhood that Disgaea provides very unique and entertaining. When I looked at a bit of gameplay a few weeks back and saw how every character started with stupid numbers it reminded me of any of those garbage gacha games you see being advertised with low payed actors showcasing a character nobody gives a shit about.

_Everything._

One aspect I don't really see brought up anymore is that NIS nearly went bankrupt about a year or two prior to this game releasing. "Disgaea 6" very much was their first major release since that happened...and it shows. Everything about it production-wise was scaled back compared to prior entries. Almost the entire 2nd half of the game was a repeat of the 1st half, the final boss of every area was the same, etc. So it's very likely the game's issues was a culmination of being cheap due to a limited budget and also being overly ambitious by changing to 3D models which they had little experience with. Much less no reuse of legacy assets which they commonly did. I can only guess they thought it was better in the long term but who knows. They are getting better with it now, as "Disgaea 7" and that new "Phantom Brave" kind of show, but it certainly wasn't a smart idea or a good look to do it in that way then. I do have to clarify though, I'm not saying this excuses the issues with 'Disgaea 6", just trying to contextualize the why. "6" was a disappointment and utterly fumbles the torch passed to it from "5" which felt like the definitive "Disgaea" experience. Personally, my biggest issue is the inflated...everything. It felt like the devs listened to all the exaggerated memes people say about the series and doubled down on them. I'm not exactly a fan of those since I've always held that the series has more depth than people give it credit for, so seeing them disregard all that depth really disappointed me.

Weird how you didn't mentioned that Asimov stole Acura/copen's broken ass adept power nulifier weapon.

21:08 i love how the first sentence that comes out of Mytil are "are you an angel? The same first words Joule/Cyan said when gunvolt got her out of that machine in the first game Lol yeah Striker Princess Mytil secret ending be like.

I dunno, I still enjoyed this game in spite of what flaws there might've been (like cutting down the available recruitable units). It helps that I really enjoy all the characters, and this is one of the few Disgaea titles where such a thing happened. Whereas previously, there was usually one character I couldn't stand in the game's narrative (i.e. Tink, Fenrich, Void Dark).

Had my own shots on why I hated this game which mostly were "The main plot clears itself with 2 lines of code I wrote in like 4 minutes" and "I skipped every cutscene bc they were boring and not funny" and honestly I think D7 gutting the auto battle feature to the point I never even really touched it in the main story was genuinely the best course of action

Nice vid man. Do you plan ln doing one on D7 ?

So just if I to get in this series don’t play 6 got it

I hated that in the first game all abilities had 100% chance to hit, updated later in the newer games. And the stupid bad ending.

I think the problem with 6 for me is the auto battle system. More so why it was included in D6. Like it's a good idea in theory with a game about grinding. It just feels like they made that a feature to bandaid over the awful bloat of levels and stats. Which is annoying because it would be nice to have that feature in say D1 where ai'm doing the same map to power level.

It really is a shame how this game turned out, because it's announcement is actually what got me to finally bite the bullet and get into Disgaea. It's art style always appealed to me, I just never felt like getting into it until 6's announcement. And that was mainly thanks to Zed because he is easily my favorite protagonist design of the series. Honestly I just hope to see him again in other games at this point.

I think it was very clear that they spent way too much development time on the 3D assets. Disgaea 6 was so undercooked that it probably required 3 more years of development before it would have as many features as its predecessors. Even the story was definitely influenced by a lack of development, as the final boss is the same for EVERY SINGLE CHAPTER. The item world itself is the most influenced by the changes, since they are pushing the D.I. system so much. This leads to the flattening of a mode that can usually hold my interest for 200+ hours alone.

I don't understand the point of the 3d? Part of what makes disgaea great is the incredible spritework? Even D1 has a charm to it This is.... not good

Disgaea 4 is still my favorite. The characters felt more interesting, and the story was a very cool departure. The campain map was also really fun, and being able to set up the cool effect combos was super fun. I didn't like 5's story, so that dragge it down.6...i don't think most old school fans liked, and 7? ha....haaaaa :/

I haven't played Disgaea since Disgaea 2. Went on to explore other NIS titles for a bit, and then didn't have a P3-5 so didn't end up playing them on release and stopped caring by the time they were ported to PC. Still a great video, thanks for sharing!

The main character and overall story is what..make me give D5 a thumbs down. But the post game grind wasn't too bad at all.

I just waiting to 3 to come out so i can play the rest, i can't believe they haven't ported that yet