Have you traced the circuit for the slow whoop module? What chip does it use?
@HenBasketFireAlarmsКүн бұрын
No, this is Patrick
@FOHGeekКүн бұрын
Submarine battle alert light
@bendy3022 күн бұрын
I love these fire alarm more than the ones better than modern day fire alarm sound
@firealarm29034 күн бұрын
Have you thought about trying the siren out on various March times with the fire sequencer before
@LXXero4 күн бұрын
i haven't, although, anything too fast will likely not be as noticeable, it becomes more like a duty-cycle effect.
@Crismodin4 күн бұрын
Man, I also don't know how I got here, but this content is right up there with the guy who reviews police lights and sirens.
@System6VideoProductions6 күн бұрын
So where are the chips and tequila?
@rpemulis6 күн бұрын
looks good man
@millbee8838 күн бұрын
idk how i got here
@XortTheGoblin4 күн бұрын
Me neither. But I stayed for the whole thing. Think of it as a Bonfire rest.
@VintageCollections10 күн бұрын
Ah yes the loaf
@LXXero10 күн бұрын
@@VintageCollections second loaf! And finally have more than two working correctly in sequence !!
@valrabellkeys986718 күн бұрын
Sick beat
@neohistoryfan101419 күн бұрын
I guess this is an early version of the 529--the ones I'm used to seeing have the plastic front.
@LXXero18 күн бұрын
i've certainly come to appreciate this version of it a lot more. I've made a re-usable "break ring" to further improve function.
@neohistoryfan101419 күн бұрын
I believe you're trying to imitate a Faraday 129--those things are nearly extinct.
@LXXero18 күн бұрын
In this particular case, it's setup as the later 812. I'm still waiting for someone who owns the surface-version of that horn to peek at the internals, but we have a good hunch it's about correct. If you want to see it setup in it's original form as a 129 - check the video I did with the autocall t-pull. I'd need the 12v version of this to be 100% correct, but I'm not willing to sacrifice the horn i have with the 12v version of that mechanism to fix this, so I'm still on the hunt for a parts horn. Once I find that, I'll build one of these in each style.
@neohistoryfan101418 күн бұрын
@@LXXero I always thought the 129 was flush mount and the 512/812 was the surface unit--you should ask Old School Fire Alarms if he knows anything about them
@LXXero18 күн бұрын
@@neohistoryfan1014 I've actually seen the flush grill with either number on it, but the mechanism did appear to be different, the 812 I saw, had a newer label and a different mechanism.
@Davesand200319 күн бұрын
Cool.
@willbill80819 күн бұрын
I wonder if either of these were used in a single gang notification appliance I saw one time. It had a silver front plate with holes in it and said FIRE ALARM in red letters.
@LXXero19 күн бұрын
I would bet that is the case for the edwards - it's very similar to the edwards mini-horns in that regard, which also came in AC or DC versions, just like these, and were also used as a white-label device inside of tons of other products, smokes, nac devices, etc.
@VintageCollections20 күн бұрын
Should that be sounding that way?
@LXXero20 күн бұрын
right?!...its...odd.
@TheFireAlarmGuy_22 күн бұрын
Damn what a setup.. I love it. Really nice setup for these cool vintage devices
@willbill80823 күн бұрын
The BNG-1 pull stations are notoriously hard to pull. They’re probably the reason for the ADA pull force code.
@LiamFire17B-R-qz2xr24 күн бұрын
Love space age devices so much
@randalpapadum131226 күн бұрын
Lol that's skitz, I love it. Subscribed!
@MetalClassicalRocks27 күн бұрын
Metal 🤘
@LorainCountyEAS28 күн бұрын
Sounds like a childs scream
@DatamasterCorporation28 күн бұрын
Quite impressive, I figured that it used some sort of 'off the shelf' tone generator due to the bizarre nature of the alarm and it's cycles, and as you pointed out, they would never have the time or have the need to make these sort of thing themselves, someone already made them. This sort of thing I don't think would ever fly with modern evacuation equipment, the 8500 seems way overly designed. Makes me want to pick one of these things up to play around with it and get some recordings
@ianthewarriorgamer8180Ай бұрын
Is this the same as the fire alarm sounding inside 7 World Trade Center when it collapsed?
@LXXero29 күн бұрын
Yup. This was all discovered by doing research on the patents of the firecom 8500. I had some idea it was intercom related, but with the help of two other people and some further tracing of steps, this is the results of what we found.
@medicmain3947Ай бұрын
I always forget about other collector comunities, when i see an odd collection im just dumbfounded for a moment XD
@saramize6183Ай бұрын
Buzz lightyear
@valrabellkeys9867Ай бұрын
Harmony!
@wigwagstudios2474Ай бұрын
>8DDDDDDDDDD
@MetalClassicalRocksАй бұрын
Make more music!
@wigwagstudios2474Ай бұрын
we making it out of the [?] with this one
@user-gg2hz6nw2uАй бұрын
can you tell me how to make this
@LXXeroАй бұрын
I would preface that with a warning: this isn't a great beginner's project, as the CMOS chip that handles triggering the tones is very sensitive, and both I and another person I've helped with this, have had to replace said chip due to failures. That said, if you'd still like to give this a shot, take a look at the instruction manual for the bogen tg-4c module - they still make this version of the module today & they are usually available on eBay used for around $40-80.
@user-gg2hz6nw2uАй бұрын
Where did you get that from?
@user-gg2hz6nw2uАй бұрын
how to make that fire com 8500 woop
@user-gg2hz6nw2uАй бұрын
that is so cool, how did you make those sounds
@luisbastidas1898Ай бұрын
"So my fire alarm started beatboxing sir"
@Epoch11Ай бұрын
Sounds like an Atari game
@AngelBlack-cu7udАй бұрын
Damn those were all on my childhood guns and robot toys miss them
@electromaniac5573Ай бұрын
Not to flex or anything.
@BlueHairPronounsАй бұрын
neeeat
@electromaniac5573Ай бұрын
What's the RPM on that bell?
@LXXeroАй бұрын
this likely depends on how much it's wound up!
@LiamFire17B-R-qz2xrАй бұрын
Space age is one of my favorite fire alarm devices!
@SandwichGamesАй бұрын
Fire beat
@TristanHill-ju3ngАй бұрын
I don't know what any of that stuff is but it sounded cool and I liked it.
@firealarm2903Ай бұрын
This is actually pretty unique system like the coding you had it set on definitely reminds me of turn signals in school buses or Chevy express vans
@LXXeroАй бұрын
The original impulse generator was a spinning-motorized device that looked a bit like a car alternator / magneto type thing, and likely didn’t click this way, only the transmitter would have, but short of finding the original I am simulating the impulses with a relay, thus the clicking (that isn’t from the Howe itself). All said, you end up with at least 3 things clicking when an actual code is firing….
@firealarm2903Ай бұрын
@@LXXero that is so cool and very unique so it’s basically kind of like code wheel to a fire alarm panel, except it has to pulse on and off in order for it to work just like a single stroke bell
@LXXeroАй бұрын
@@firealarm2903 yup, it’s exactly like a single stroke bell in that regard, each transmitter moves one click per stroke of the solenoid. it’s possibly the earliest form of a fire alarm sync protocol, if you think about it! It just wasn’t used for strobes or horns but rather the code wheels on the pulls themselves would be in sync, that same step-by-step movement allowed them to interleave code rounds and get codes sent in faster from multiple stations, versus normal coded stations, which had to complete their full set of 4 rounds before handoff to the next. it’s an intriguing concept, and quite a feat to have pulled this off almost entirely electromechanically.
@firealarm2903Ай бұрын
@@LXXero that’s pretty cool how this thing operated electro mechanically for the earliest form of Sync protocols. if I had one of these, I’d hook it up to a 2001 panel and have it set to 90 bpm March time since these things work up to a maximum of 100 bpm for these transmitters
@valrabellkeys9867Ай бұрын
Goddam you violated that thing
@LXXeroАй бұрын
It sounds like someone sending Morse code in a mad panic, I do wonder if this is closer to proper speed…
@iftheseoldbeastscouldtalk7796Ай бұрын
Check that dot with a Geiger counter (on the rotation part). If it isn't paper, even if it is, it looks like it could be luminous painted
@LXXeroАй бұрын
i definitely need to start doing stuff like that more regularly, normally the code number is printed on that badge, but it seemed as if the label was damaged on this one. however, that got me thinking, the material behind the break-the-glass mechanism is VERY suspect of this....its this brown/cardboard-like material, almost like early circuit board, and it definitely looked as if it'd been stained by something, but i had assumed maybe water damage, now, you are making me wonder, was it supposed to be glowing behind that glass? i need to dive deeper on this.
@iftheseoldbeastscouldtalk7796Ай бұрын
@LXXero while I'm not knowledgeable as others on the use of radioisotopic lume within devices like these, an emergency device, particularly one like this which has a few key factors going for it, those being Mid-Century, or at least late Mid-Century, an emergency device and being in or designed in part for areas which may darken often (i.e. an outside callbox or in a shaded overhang) as well as it being something that isn't often loitered near, just trips my radar as a potentially radioactive or partially radioactive item. I've seen radium lume tape from a submarine in Sweden and enough radium to set off a dense GM tube IN a Soviet geiger counter itself, so I have seen radiation in lots of things, and emergency device applications will always fit the bill as something to at least consider the potential radioactivity of.
@FOHGeekАй бұрын
Sounds like ATC bell on Japanese trains
@BenjaminPaustian-ln6nfАй бұрын
Any reason for being triggered by a fire alarm?
@LXXeroАй бұрын
I mostly demonstrate old fire bells and horns; this bell is perhaps an outlier in that it's not specifically for fire. I believe it was made by bell systems.
@MacombSignals27Ай бұрын
What BPM does it max out at?
@LXXeroАй бұрын
@@MacombSignals27 good question I’m thinking like around 100ish but I’d have probably test it in depth, for stuff with gaps in-between like codes, you can go a little faster, because it will drag behind each hit but still fire them, and the gaps give some chance to reset, but if it’s too fast, like triggering entirely mid-swing, then it’s probably just gonna do nothing, since the thing that the solenoid pulls on would be in motion still and it won’t have anything to trip.