Viking 24v 4.4AH Battery Teardown
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@kosti116
@kosti116 15 сағат бұрын
Lol drill and welder that is all what u need to fix bolt problem. I was have the dame x3 😂😅
@gregandsueplummer6759
@gregandsueplummer6759 16 сағат бұрын
Well done. Thanks for taking the time to share. The 3rd, slightly heavier wire, is for the low fuel warning light. -Greg
@user-ux9ll3yk5y
@user-ux9ll3yk5y 22 сағат бұрын
Iv got a yose 350 hub with only about 200 miles on it but iv noticed theres a little bit of play in the bearing on the cassette side ( wheel has slight movement and tapping when holding and shaking 9 and 3). Being a sealed bearing can they be tightened or is it a new bearing job?
@mrcoco3562
@mrcoco3562 Күн бұрын
Work on all bms?
@Kendall471
@Kendall471 2 күн бұрын
Do you repair cypher battery or do a test having a problem thanks
@codypeterson9323
@codypeterson9323 2 күн бұрын
What size are the gears?
@terencegreen3399
@terencegreen3399 3 күн бұрын
Were you based?
@itz.sc2437
@itz.sc2437 5 күн бұрын
Where about are you based as I neeed the same job done for my bike
@yakoridesagain
@yakoridesagain 5 күн бұрын
Always wanted to see inside one of these! Thank you. Rather than shelling out the €622 for the battery/controller, might it be possible to replace the controller with a KT aftermarket model and recell the battery? I appreciate connectors may need to be changed…and finding a controller small enough to fit into that area may be impossible…it’s just that I’ve been running a DIY range extender on mine for years and that was also supposed to be impossible due to the CANbus…would appreciate your thoughts, and thanks for a great channel!
@alanmorgan1389
@alanmorgan1389 4 күн бұрын
As you probably know, KT Controllers are designed to only communicate with KT displays so even if you could find one to fit inside the existing Mahle x35 battery case, it won't communicate with the iWoc display. The next big question to answer is whether the Mahle X35 motor is a 'standard' sensored hub motor that would work with a KT based system? If the answer were yes and I was faced with a 'broken' X35 battery and didn't want to shell out the money for a replacement (700 GBP?) then I'd look to scrap everything Mahle except the motor, recell the battery with a KT controller, fit a KT display and independent PAS and speed sensor (unless there's a way to utilise the Mahle ones?). All in all quite a technical challenge and not for the feint hearted.
@yakoridesagain
@yakoridesagain 4 күн бұрын
@@alanmorgan1389 That is exactly what I was planning Alan. I suspect the first gen X35’s are rather more amenable to ‘alien’ components, as a friend tested his suspect motor by swapping in a Swytch bike motor and it worked. Losing the Iwoc would be a benefit frankly though I do hate clutter on the bars…I’ve played with conversion kits before and I’ve been itching to re-cell with higher capacity cells…I do like long rides!
@nathanafi
@nathanafi 5 күн бұрын
What is your planetary gear removal tool called? The thing that is like a tripod that pulls it out of the motor?
@Andi.F.E
@Andi.F.E 6 күн бұрын
i watched this twice & i've fixed my hesc motor now after a solid weeks worth of fucking about . the clutch needed freeing up . the metal piece attached to back of planetary gears . by the way your hands act as sponges and absorb all that chemical lube . just like Vaseline is petroleum based & people rub it all over themselves willy nilly. that shit is flammable as fuck
@christopher-tg5zv
@christopher-tg5zv 6 күн бұрын
mine is doing a similar noise to the left side but wheel spins as normal when motor is not engaged but soon as i peddle even with motor off the noise come back also my disc brake come loose as soon as it started i thought that was the noise till i tighten it back up so im thinking its the bearing closest to disc brake has given up after 3 year/ what are your thoughts?
@christopher-tg5zv
@christopher-tg5zv 6 күн бұрын
after taken apart im afraid it was the gears it has the odd tooth iver missing or warped looks like most of grease has dried up
@paulstir
@paulstir 7 күн бұрын
a well put together pack tidy protected even had the glands for the cables , shame for the cheap cells inside
@brucehutcheson5371
@brucehutcheson5371 8 күн бұрын
Meanwhile back at the customer's home, his wife is asking him if he has seen her charger...
@jakebaked5996
@jakebaked5996 8 күн бұрын
So let me get this straight, you didnt try to repair the cells or replace them... declared it "unrepairable" 😂
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 8 күн бұрын
@@jakebaked5996 I did it off camera dude don't stress :) sadly can't replace or recharge cells as BMS has wiped it's vram/eeprom so won't come back on sadly :(
@jakebaked5996
@jakebaked5996 8 күн бұрын
@EbikeRepairs I have edited my post with your response in mind. But there's no such thing as "not doable".... probably a case of having the correct software to reset / reprogram the battery (which makes it doable but not at your shop).
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 8 күн бұрын
@@jakebaked5996 yes totally! I wish I knew how to fix it :(((
@jakebaked5996
@jakebaked5996 8 күн бұрын
@EbikeRepairs I have access to a broken Mahle X35 bike like this right now, it's a shame it's wrecked by proprietary hardware (dead battery) .. almost heart breaking to spend £600 on a genuine but rubbish hardware locked battery worth £200 tops from manufacturer with a stupid controller built into the battery that becomes ewaste as soon as a single cell fails. Almost criminal id argue. I can't really believe these companies are getting away with it.
@kirilchuk
@kirilchuk 8 күн бұрын
Nice job , question where can i get a replacement wire
@diyzona
@diyzona 8 күн бұрын
Mate, I think those cells dont have enough amps on discharge for that motor. I am working on the same bike and had to use same lifepo as that motor gulps 20+ amps
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 8 күн бұрын
@@diyzona I used 10s 2p lg mj1 - so 20 rated current should be about right, they can peak at that no problem, but continuous they would get hot!
@diyzona
@diyzona 8 күн бұрын
​@@EbikeRepairsyeah. And they probably will. As you saw they had two layers of nickel 10mm wide. Probably be cause of huge amps. Cable is 14awg of I am not mistaking but coper xan take 30A in 14Awg. Hope it will last. I also wanted to go to 18650 but when I saw consumption I decided to stay on the originals. Whey were expensive but I am sure it will be as original. And the cell was 6Ah so that is even larger than original 4-5
@mrplod1616
@mrplod1616 8 күн бұрын
We can all learn from videos like this. So, thanks! But, I do hope that you are not repairing other peoples bikes professionally! Never, apply power to a seized motor! It will weaken the windings. Don't use WD40 to clean bearings! It washes out the pre-packed grease in them.
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 8 күн бұрын
I am, but this one was just a 'can I save them buying a new motor for now' job The whole thing was ruined before I got my hands on it, bike is still rideable nearly a year later :)
@TestingEverythingElectri-xt9ov
@TestingEverythingElectri-xt9ov 9 күн бұрын
Exactly what is up with my bafang rear hub motor and i haven't took it apart yet
@paulstir
@paulstir 9 күн бұрын
Nice easy one ☝️ 😁
@foreverhungry84
@foreverhungry84 9 күн бұрын
simple fixes are the best. customer error lol
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 9 күн бұрын
You can see how fires happen, a BMS might protect the battery from a high voltage charger a few time, but forever? No
@BenMitro
@BenMitro 10 күн бұрын
I see, RTFL was missed.
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 9 күн бұрын
L is label, yes? 😅
@BenMitro
@BenMitro 9 күн бұрын
@@EbikeRepairs yep.
@brookes79
@brookes79 10 күн бұрын
Extra plug is for an ANT+ connector you can buy for the older X35 system & also its a PAS connector for the cadence sensor on the rear ring of magnets
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 9 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@malingehring165
@malingehring165 11 күн бұрын
If you are going to try to make money on youtube, get a proper set of circlip pliers!!
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 11 күн бұрын
But people LOVE watching me struggle
@foreverhungry84
@foreverhungry84 11 күн бұрын
Low quality cells have caused this. Never had this issue with LG or samsung unless they have been seriously abused.
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 11 күн бұрын
I agree!
@ianl4308
@ianl4308 11 күн бұрын
great video as always ,i just built the same battery for a aovo pro used a bigger bms though ,
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 11 күн бұрын
Thankyou! I'm glad it works 😁😁
@abcbarbrabear
@abcbarbrabear 11 күн бұрын
Hey mate I have a fiido d11 and I'm having same issue could I use a 36v himo z20 wheel on instead
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 11 күн бұрын
If they're all 36v 250w and have the same connector, it will probably run just fine
@melj4205
@melj4205 11 күн бұрын
Can you reuse any of the good cells?
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 11 күн бұрын
I could yes, but I don't - I sell them on eBay as a job lot of 5000 or something like that, someone else can test and reuse them I unfortunately do not have the time or inclination for it!
@10thgensiracing
@10thgensiracing 11 күн бұрын
Did your old pins fried like you saw fire? I washed my ebike yesterday. Used a leaf blower to dry the bike and then swapped the battery. Let it dry about a good 7 hours after. Tried to power on the ebike. It wouldn’t power on. Removed the battery thought connector were just fried cause battery mounting plate was black. Big mistake using the 2nd good ebike battery I had put onto that burnt plate. Didn’t think much about pins until I saw fire coming out of the battery pins. They got damaged and melted. I tested both same batteries on a brand new clean working battery connecting plate only to see fire spark because battery pins were damaged. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@BenMitro
@BenMitro 12 күн бұрын
I was looking up price of cells here in Australia, that and knowing which cells to buy from aliexpress and not end up with crap, so hands down agree, best to replace the scooter.
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 11 күн бұрын
Similarly here! £6 retail per cell... 30 cells.... Adds up fast! If you don't get them at tease prices it's crazy!
@phester28
@phester28 12 күн бұрын
even amount of leaky cells, I wonder if the Bms didnt do its job and the charger was overvolting the cells
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 11 күн бұрын
It's hard to say, sometimes I wish I had a time machine
@mickkelly2277
@mickkelly2277 12 күн бұрын
Always interesting to watch
@MickyBee73
@MickyBee73 11 күн бұрын
I agree, you learn a lot from watching... It's inevitable that one day I'll attempt a battery build, I just want to learn as much as I can first though 👍
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 11 күн бұрын
Thankyou! 😁
@rogeroneill9317
@rogeroneill9317 13 күн бұрын
Hi. Thanks for posting. Very informative. I’ve gotten hold of new fuses and was wondering how you desoldered it. For the life of it’s not budging. TIA.
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 12 күн бұрын
100w soldering iron or hot air station will budge it 😁
@notgotaname
@notgotaname 13 күн бұрын
I just replaced my controller, all works well. but i am now having trouble placing the controller inside the compartment to line up the screws. Its like the new wiring is stiff af and doesnt allow room for the controller to be seated properly inside. All wires are thru hole and squashed up next to battery. Any advice?
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 12 күн бұрын
I agree, it was a nightmare. I had to put the light wires down the sides of the frame holes where they go, but further in, if that makes sense.
@MrMnemonix
@MrMnemonix 13 күн бұрын
The Swytch kit is a road-legal, 250W, front wheel motor kit. This rear, 500W wheel is absolutely NOT part of any Swytch kit.
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 12 күн бұрын
They used to offer them - it's an older model.
@sandieguitoadult
@sandieguitoadult 13 күн бұрын
That's an ace explanation and video. Cheers! What will cause this on a motor with less than1200 hours? Am I pushing my bike too hard?
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 12 күн бұрын
Possibly too much power - or bad luck!
@june2625
@june2625 14 күн бұрын
Hey there, i just subbed, i really wanted to know that, once this hall sensor magnet issue occured, does the motor act glitchy and wont spin when start from still? the story is: I just bought a second hand lightbee and after a short test run, the motor suddently failed, holding the drivetrain making loud noises,i stopped completly and give throttle, no power, i then give the bike a bit of push then give throttle, power comes on but wasn't fluent, sort of glitchy and like i said, fighting the drivetrain making a lot of noise, the chain was dancing like crazy, but however if i keep pushing the throttle it will actually accelerate but generates lots of vibration, i have no idea how electric motors works but with a bit of research online and seeing your video, i have a funny feeling that im facing the same problem here, I HOPE i made myself clear, excuse me for bad english, would you please help me by replying😊❤I also wish to know what could cause this failure and how to prevent it, thanks a lot
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 14 күн бұрын
That's exactly the issue yes
@IanHatfield-ds1jp
@IanHatfield-ds1jp 14 күн бұрын
Hi, i have the ado a20 bike with the same battery. After being stored for over a year the battery wont accept a charge.. its not flat, still reading 36v. Stripped and tested individual banks, all are very similar at 3.6 v each but still wont charge. Would it be the bms? Thanks
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 14 күн бұрын
Almost certainly BMS if each bank is showing 3.6v
@IanHatfield-ds1jp
@IanHatfield-ds1jp 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for your reply. Would it be repairable?
@maniakfps249
@maniakfps249 15 күн бұрын
You would wash your nails for the movie. No kidding.
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 15 күн бұрын
@@maniakfps249 working hands! I touch dirty things, nails get dirty, got no time for cleaning them every 10 minutes😁😁
@Styr112
@Styr112 16 күн бұрын
Is it just me or the video has no sound?
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 14 күн бұрын
Yes sorry no sound! I don't know why but when I edited it it all got messed up
@DodgyFPV
@DodgyFPV 16 күн бұрын
Deans connector is the name of the 'plug'
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 14 күн бұрын
Thankyou! I knew that deep down in my brain somewhere 🤣
@hexidev
@hexidev 16 күн бұрын
Why not use lifepo4 again. Its quite save if you compare it with ion. Edit: who in the right minds solders on a lithium cell...
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 14 күн бұрын
Correct but here in the UK I don't have a good source for those cells, and I know 18650s!
@brucehutcheson5371
@brucehutcheson5371 16 күн бұрын
What a wild looking prototype e bike. I bet that drive gear makes so noise when running at speed. A lot of work to design and build that e bike.
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 14 күн бұрын
Isn't it cool! The guy said it wasn't very good to ride after it was all done
@brucehutcheson5371
@brucehutcheson5371 13 күн бұрын
@@EbikeRepairs The old saying you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
@paulstir
@paulstir 16 күн бұрын
That was very interesting , couple of hoverboard batteries in series and it’s back up and running 😁
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 14 күн бұрын
Almost exactly yes!
@rsw987654321
@rsw987654321 16 күн бұрын
I've got a motor and I've got a tester. Seems like the trickiest part is connecting the two. Everybody on KZfaq seems to have some kind of adapter (possibly/more than likely handmade). Do you know if anyone has a good video on all the ways an ebike motor can be hooked up to one of those testers?
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 14 күн бұрын
Juliet 9 pin to standard bullet connectors/ hall sensor cables available on AliExpress/ Amazon:)
@rsw987654321
@rsw987654321 13 күн бұрын
@@EbikeRepairs Thanks! I’ve placed an order and just have to wait for it to arrive. Thanks again.
@sparker1001
@sparker1001 16 күн бұрын
Dont get anything with Mahle in it , no customer support and products that fail after very little use - a software update killed mine and nearly £1000 to get it fixed
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 14 күн бұрын
Oh that's not good! 😭
@Pedr0kaz1
@Pedr0kaz1 18 күн бұрын
i recently built a 10S battery with BMS, which Voltage should i read at C- port while not charging? The client was surprised to see same voltage as battery pack on C- port, because he has some BMS that read 0V at C- port
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 12 күн бұрын
Yes, full voltage on c- is normal behaviour
@Pedr0kaz1
@Pedr0kaz1 12 күн бұрын
@@EbikeRepairs thanks!
@avaisch007
@avaisch007 18 күн бұрын
Loving your vids! My e-bike battery 10s2P died after no use for a long time. Bought a new battery pack to swap over. I noticed on the new pack the bms has wires coming out of the C1 terminal and not the P1? Is that ok or should I swap and solder them on the P1?. I don’t believe the e-bike has regen and this battery pack was probably designed for an e-scooter. Thanks bro!
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 12 күн бұрын
Possibly a common port BMS and it's meant to be like that, battery doctor often gets upset about this - it bypasses all cell protection on discharge... Unless it's meant to be like that! Only way to find out is by testing
@jjung2005
@jjung2005 19 күн бұрын
I believe regular scheduled maintenance is the key like everything else. Did you get it used? That thing went through hell!
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 12 күн бұрын
I got it jet washed sadly 🤣🤣
@alexnightflydance
@alexnightflydance 19 күн бұрын
Very perfect Timing , i got one of this x35 systems without the Bike , it was my first time to view a Controller inside the Batteriepack 😂 , now i can do what i want , but first i see a purple led and the App tells me 1 cell is down 😊 ..its confusing how small it is
@alexnightflydance
@alexnightflydance 19 күн бұрын
Frustration to view ur Video , 😂 i was in Hope 😢😂 , but i see this comming 😅..Its not for Save Resourses , its only to save Money for Producers.. ...i will test the Controller unit and cables with a seperated Hoverboardbatterie , last idea ..
@EbikeRepairs
@EbikeRepairs 12 күн бұрын
Good luck! I tried to get the controller to work with a separate voltage not the original battery and it wouldn't work :(
@alexnightflydance
@alexnightflydance 11 күн бұрын
@@EbikeRepairs 😂🤔 it was my next PlanB ..again ,frustration 😭🤣... I can't belive how might the insustrie fight for unrepairable Consumer stuff like Elektrikverhicles ..xD I mean , -\+ a Engine and a trootle xD xD ..of course a Overwatch for 🔋 ...but what we get is a Card house 😂🤯😂 ..new company's in EU have to look for Upcycle-Circle but In reality * lost more Resources by building the complicated Way for use "Energie" ..sry my english is the high-end quality xD I open aloot of Liion Akkupacks and view to much good Cells and one or max 3 was dead ..but the Normal user trows all Time "Broken packs" away ..can't open without destroy or the Company's burn it down 😂 again for Energie to produce new Cells ..wrong Circle but ..u know , controller dies..BMS closed forever ..packs full of Glue etc.etc.