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@wound1up976
@wound1up976 2 күн бұрын
Can we have corresponding cards or images of referenced characters flash on screen when referred to? I was losing track of who's who with all the name dropping.
@wound1up976
@wound1up976 2 күн бұрын
Really enjoyed this long form, love playing this game
@ironharvest8458
@ironharvest8458 2 күн бұрын
@DogginDays well crafted video. I know I'm a year late. But my Heroscape searches are on the uptick considering the 20th year anniversary and the new Master Set. Will you be covering these new additions to Heroscape?
@ironharvest8458
@ironharvest8458 2 күн бұрын
I ask, before I look at other vids. I am very smart! :D
@TheGIJew.
@TheGIJew. 3 күн бұрын
Hey, I just found this video. It was really informative and helped me prepare for my first ever tournaments, which I'll be attending soon at Gencon. I appreciate that you address the thematic and story elements of the units along with their actual mechanics and abilities. That's the kind of thing tier lists sometimes don't mention, but the thematic elements are what drew me to Heroscape in the first place. I hope you'll eventually make more tier lists.
@PurpleThunder7
@PurpleThunder7 10 күн бұрын
Ne-Gok-Sa will always be my favorite unit. My best memory of Heroscape as a kid was winning a Toys-R-Us tournament (against the only other entrant) with him. My opponent was kicking my ass the entire time until, with Ne-Gok-Sa as my sole surviving unit, I landed a desperation Mind Shackle on her big dragon. She definitely got robbed lol
@mkultrafondler9159
@mkultrafondler9159 24 күн бұрын
Ask me how I know you’ve never seen the original Planet of the Apes movie.
@megabubfish
@megabubfish 26 күн бұрын
I would love to see a continuation of this series.
@eckoschreiber
@eckoschreiber Ай бұрын
So hyped. The customs on CV3 are awesome (especially for synergy gaps) but hard to come by. Batman - Brave & the Bold had a couple of fight summonings. Liked that each unit really fitted their faction. Play Classic HS and D&D together, Marvel (if ever) seperately. Miss the base stickers, too. But the plane card frames, portrait placement and odd colour alterations are worse imo. Thought Theracus was a winged beast (Onshu), but it's a mount like Brunak. Kita could for a couple of points had made for a great stealthy mount, too? Figure features a saddle. Think Bog-Bur-Na's Swashbuckler 2nd attack wouldn't trigger the cutlass!? Bog pirates sound great;o) The wide wings of Raelin's tigercore mount could block LoS? Not going to elaborate on Raakshoot pronouns, but their battle pose could be a hint. Bad ass! Don't mind Revna, but we have Valkryll, who was already treated as kinda Utgar and seemingly forgotten like Aquilla... "Good knight Irene, good knight Irene, I'll see you in my.." Really? But only figure that looks better than it's portrait. Scaly folk, Naga? Mercenaries (miscenaries, ha;o) ) could be more befitting than varied? That could also help to distinct Revna from Valkryll... Great vid, cheers
@Nytrusdeathcyde
@Nytrusdeathcyde Ай бұрын
not bad i usaly avoid metas because i feel it optimizes the fun out of a game and games arer ment to be fun and escape from work or life imo but worth looking into
@grizzgreen6821
@grizzgreen6821 2 ай бұрын
Never will forget killing my dads dreaded sir denrick with a lucky chomp before he could decimate my huge figures. Good times
@jacobblecha8781
@jacobblecha8781 2 ай бұрын
I've never heard anyone talk do highly of a swog rider
@quatreraberbawinner2628
@quatreraberbawinner2628 3 ай бұрын
I wanna play but i don't have any friends, just like 20 years ago
@smellme6313
@smellme6313 3 ай бұрын
Why does fia bonny dress like she’s from Star Wars, uses a flint lock pistol, and was recruited to Einar?? Im sorry but the people who just immediately dismiss valid criticism of the new stuff have rose tinted glasses. The original heroscape had a consistent theme with their characters. I’m not against thinking outside the box, but there is a set theme to follow for each faction, and each character. You don’t see jandar recruiting futuristic robots that ride mythical dragons because that is stupid and wouldn’t follow any consistent theme. They need to have a more formulaic approach when designing or “factioning”. And contrary to what most people say, it’s ok for people like me to say that. The new dragon looks amazing btw. The innovation of throwable traps as an ability is, contrary to fia, a great outside the box thinking the franchise needs coming back out the gate.
@doggindays2631
@doggindays2631 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment, and with you. I have always been into the game and its mechanics more than the lore, but I appreciated the lore where it informed the game. And I agree with you that, however janky that lore was and however mix-and-match-y the army building process is, one of Heroscape's signature features was that each General represented a specific theme, which indirectly communicated the personalities and the battlefield priorities/aesthetic sensibilities of those Generals. I roughly saw it like this: JANDAR: Boy-scout "good guy" faction with honorable goals and intentions. Snowy, Nordic aesthetic. ULLAR: Noble, classic fantasy faction. Most "Tolkien-esque." Hospitable woodland aesthetic. Similar goals to Jandar but emphasizing different themes and approach. VYDAR: High-tech, shadowy faction. Nebulous intentions and goals. Prefers sabotage and "black ops" to traditional frontline fighting. Dark, rocky aesthetic. EINAR: Prefers "historical" units or units that bear resemblance to certain periods in human history. Presents with martial, imperial grandeur. Japanese/Oriental/"Eastern" aesthetic. Goals may be conquest, but not in an overtly malicious way. UTGAR: Standard evil faction. Pitiless, desires power for power's sake and pursues that goal without scruples. Recruits monsters, scoundrels, the power-hungry, the morally bankrupt. Fiery, volcanic aesthetic. AQUILLA: The "nature" faction. Where Ullar may have had nature themes before, Aquilla emphasizes the harshness and "wrath" of nature. Her faction comes off as a guardian or avenger of nature. Foreboding forest/swamp aesthetic. VALKRILL (and I guess now, REVNA, but we'll see): Evil faction of rot, decay, and death. Desires not power but destruction. Units often have some connection to death, decay, disease, or destruction. Dark, harsh cave aesthetic. You get the sense that disease is in the air wherever Valkrill armies set up shop. We'll see where the other new AoA Generals land but that was always my take on the classics. The point is that was largely gleaned from the cards and what little lore I read, and those are strong impressions/themes of each faction just from that. I agree that the new lore they've showcased isn't nearly as charismatic as the classics. But then...nothing ever will be.
@annickmuller8692
@annickmuller8692 3 ай бұрын
host your own tournament
@LordThree
@LordThree 3 ай бұрын
You making more of these? 40 points I think the venoc should get a B tier
@doggindays2631
@doggindays2631 3 ай бұрын
Definitely making more! If you look up in the pinned comments, I added a note bumping the Venocs to B tier. They're really, really good and I seriously underrated them here (last time I played them I got obliterated, so that was biasing my opinion here). They're shy of A because they do have bad matchups, but they also clean house in their good ones.
@Blazingwheel
@Blazingwheel 3 ай бұрын
Wow... a slide show, at least show record footage of the match zzz
@tdotitan8855
@tdotitan8855 3 ай бұрын
Great video, I always love hearing about battle reports. Im surprised you werent able to make a Dund build work lmao, but lots of cool builds, i was especially surprised on Bol being a big part of it lol. I think its cool that a lot of the tournaments had a couple of different rules/delta points which i think is cool for allowing builds you would not usually see. Always glad to see more people playing this game
@doggindays2631
@doggindays2631 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Yeah I should've thrown Dünd in there somewhere on my first year, but I just couldn't find a build/format for him. But there's plenty more Dünd on the way on this channel...
@leonardohenriquez7814
@leonardohenriquez7814 3 ай бұрын
Great video! Agree with most of the first impressions here. Excited to see how these units do completely.
@skywhale8214
@skywhale8214 3 ай бұрын
What a great video! Love your storytelling style. 2023 was also my first full year into Competitive Heroscape, and it was cool to see you had a similar experience with how cool Heroscapers are. Have also been getting into playing online, which is an awesome way to play even more and meet people I would likely never be able to play against in person.
@corvaxblackfeather6529
@corvaxblackfeather6529 3 ай бұрын
Bird up!
@darkleaf3102
@darkleaf3102 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to know what events these were. If they were close I'd totally go!
@nathanspear8035
@nathanspear8035 3 ай бұрын
Southern California
@masonduke5647
@masonduke5647 3 ай бұрын
Great video, would absolutely watch additional entries on future tournaments were you ever so inclined
@GlorifiedGutsyGaming
@GlorifiedGutsyGaming 3 ай бұрын
I jumped on for the tier lists and I have enjoyed your newer videos as well! Happy to hear the tournaments went well for you. I'd love to hear more. Where do you find your vc stuff? I haven't really looked into those. You think your store would ever do a tournament that allows Marvel? I have them, but we don't use them and it seems like you guys don't either. I'm hoping to attend my first tournament this year.
@waynekautzer913
@waynekautzer913 3 ай бұрын
What - an all hero game - in VC delta format (at 80 points), no less - and you didn't draft Dünd??!!
@ryguyplaysgames
@ryguyplaysgames 3 ай бұрын
Doggin: I had a lot to learn about competitive tournaments Also Doggin: has a competitive record on par with the best in the world Great video! Watched every bit of it, my favorite sections were your thoughts around building your armies. Of course we’d all love to see more if you’ve got the bandwidth for it!
@YesCaptin
@YesCaptin 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video! You could hear the emotion you had when talking about each game. Bol is op!
@chameleonkingdom6517
@chameleonkingdom6517 3 ай бұрын
Loved this video! Please do this annually or however often you can and yes please take notes, loved the battle report aspect. Also having build videos in the future would be great. I learned so much and got so much inspiration from your battle planning going into each tournament. Great stories as well. Keep it up!
@waynekautzer913
@waynekautzer913 3 ай бұрын
I 100% agree - another vote for all of the above!
@corvaxblackfeather6529
@corvaxblackfeather6529 3 ай бұрын
That the Goblin Bol gave you your first Win ... is a show of strenght for ALL Gobbo's in ALL kinds of Games all over the World. He's now a Hero respected by Goblins from all Worlds.. may it be 40K, Warhammer Fantasy, D&D, Magic the Gathering or any other System. Really LOVE how that Goblin won you the day ;)
@Foudzing
@Foudzing 3 ай бұрын
Bol vs Arrow grut comment: Actually due to equality being at the defenders advantage (1 skull vs 1 shield = you defend) a 2v2 has only 44% chances to go through. So odds were not in your favors but I am pretty sure this was still the best play. (Also that Mellifera vs Mohican endgame I am pretty sure going on lava was a mistake, but it made for an epic draw!)
@doggindays2631
@doggindays2631 3 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right. I made a hasty (and incorrect) assumption when writing that script that because skulls are more likely than shields on a die, that must've meant I had good odds of getting an attack through. But that's not how the probabilities work, as you no doubt know. Your comment actually sent me on a whole investigation to math out why that was the case, so I really appreciate the insight! As you said though, given my options, I also think it was the right call just to send Bol in and hope for the best. Paid off! And on Mellifera v Mohican, you may be right there too. I forget the exact circumstances that made me do that. I think I was afraid of an initiative switch in which the Mohican would've survived lava and would get a height attack down on Mellifera, so I wanted to even it out. But...that would leave me at the mercy of 50/50 lava roll anyway, so yeah. Probably an error. But I don't regret it! Was a game my friend Sammy and I still talk about and reference.
@Foudzing
@Foudzing 3 ай бұрын
Pit trap in an actual tournament wtf lol 😂😂😂
@Foudzing
@Foudzing 3 ай бұрын
Sorry but I bursted out laughing at that one. 😂 Very cool video I am at 1/3 in, having a blast.
@doggindays2631
@doggindays2631 3 ай бұрын
@@Foudzing Indeed! Such was the glyph pool decision. I'd like to know more about why it's so frowned upon in tournament settings (if you know), since I do appreciate how the possibility of a Pit Trap makes one think twice about going for a glyph. But then again, most glyphs are in extremely vulnerable positions already, so any glyph you go for incurs a cost/sacrifice of some kind. But glad it was good for a laugh at least!
@g.bizzy_
@g.bizzy_ 3 ай бұрын
The story of you & your friend both losing your last figure to lava field damage during your first tournament match against each other was epic!
@doggindays2631
@doggindays2631 3 ай бұрын
We still bring it up with each other to this day!
@leonardohenriquez7814
@leonardohenriquez7814 3 ай бұрын
Great video! Loved remembering our epic battles last year! Hope you do this again next year!
@doggindays2631
@doggindays2631 3 ай бұрын
Always a pleasure to play you! Whatever my score, as long as I get one in against you, win or lose, I'm a happy man!
@leonardohenriquez7814
@leonardohenriquez7814 3 ай бұрын
@@doggindays2631 likewise 👍🏽
@krtrocky
@krtrocky 4 ай бұрын
Black powder weapons in the real world take some time to reload
@jonanjello
@jonanjello 4 ай бұрын
I’m enjoying listening to your video. Thanks, DogginDays (great name!)
@AdamRasmussenXP
@AdamRasmussenXP 4 ай бұрын
I hope you'll go back and review more of the original figures, too! Great stuff.
@doggindays2631
@doggindays2631 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@vensersrevenge8739
@vensersrevenge8739 4 ай бұрын
Super excited to see Heroscape back for real! It is what got me into tabletop games, and seeing this video has been a great thing to see!
@chameleonkingdom6517
@chameleonkingdom6517 4 ай бұрын
Love this series!
@chameleonkingdom6517
@chameleonkingdom6517 4 ай бұрын
Loved this and look forward to the rest of the series. I not only thought you were very fair and thorough, but you also introduced me to a few strategies that I hadn’t heard of before. Great job!
@LordThree
@LordThree 4 ай бұрын
They were very clever about the release on this expansion. You really need a hero to go with the squads.
@danantoniumaestrodistortion
@danantoniumaestrodistortion 4 ай бұрын
So happy this exists! Please make more on each expansion. You could even do one on AoA
@NevTheDeranged
@NevTheDeranged 4 ай бұрын
I gotta say it bugs me sometimes that the thematic army builds are so rarely competitive. I want to field armies that look dope together, not just a hodgepodge of randos. But there's always some weak link that makes them almost non-viable. It's a bummer. Maybe some of the new figs will help with thematic cohesion, but I doubt it.
@doggindays2631
@doggindays2631 4 ай бұрын
I'm with you. I do love thematic armies, but in tournament settings, they often don't cut it. Maybe that's just due to Heroscape conceptually, which imagines a hodgepodge of different types of units fighting under a single General's banner. That, or the designers just weren't as concerned with thematic/aesthetic compatibility as they were with creating cool mechanics and synergies. Each General represents a story/lore theme, but even within their armies there's lots of wild visual diversity. Shame too. There's nothing like seeing two people with two different very thematic armies fighting each other. It'd be cool if there was a format like "thematic armies only," but what counts as "thematic" is too subjective for that to catch on I guess.
@NevTheDeranged
@NevTheDeranged 4 ай бұрын
I've mentioned it in other vids, and it still bugs me- Vane should clearly be a Captain, both because he's the Most Piratey, and also because he has the same "pistol and melee weapon" pose as the other two Captains. You can't have a Marro Captain and a cyborg Captain and then not make the ACTUAL PIRATE a Captain. I don't care why, I don't care about game balance or whatever, you just can't abandon theme like that, it's not ok.
@brucehalden6148
@brucehalden6148 4 ай бұрын
17:41 Im pretty sure they're maintaining all the factions introduced in Avalon Hill's run, and thats because the factions were just the different civilizations they came from, not that they were manifesting them on Valhalla(Pirates excluded, obviously). This is something that Heroscape has pretty much already done with groups such as the Marro, Agent Karr and his associates, and we see the pulling of different members to different factions with the Knights of Weston all being summoned by Jandar with the exception of Sir Hawthorne, who was summoned by Utgar.
@doggindays2631
@doggindays2631 4 ай бұрын
If they are, it's no big deal. As long as it all plays well, I'm fine with it. I guess it could be interesting narrative to have an existing organization as part of a planet's civilization that the Valkyrie summoned from. Like Jandar and other benevolent Valkyrie had visions of the Dryan Lifeborne Order and chose the noblest among them, whereas Utgar and the evil Valkyrie went after the evil members of the Order, suggesting that there may have been internal conflict in the Order itself. Just my thoughts running amok. Either way, is what it is. Appreciate the comment!
@stri26
@stri26 4 ай бұрын
Do you have any recommendations for someone who wants to get into Heroscape for the first time with this release? Really enjoyed the video, looking forward to more content!
@doggindays2631
@doggindays2631 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment, and sorry it's taken me a while to respond. Really depends on what you want! I'd recommend learning the mechanics of the game first, and Sir Heroscape has a great primer going over the rules: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edp_etiXrbSoYHU.html If you want to build your collection just from these AoA releases, that's totally fine, and I suspect they're trying to design their new releases for people who don't have existing collections. But if you want to get into past units, or the Valhalla Customs (VC) units, which I do recommend and which these AoA units are building off of, a few things to consider. 1) Cost The official figures from past Heroscape are often obscenely expensive these days since they've been out of print for so long. If you do want to get the original figures, I typically look for deals/auctions on eBay. I'm not on social media beyond KZfaq, but I know there are Facebook and Reddit groups that trade Heroscape and good deals can be found there. There's also All Things Heroscape. They're often on the pricier side, but occasionally do discounts. Website: www.allthingsheroscape.com/ Short of original figures, 3D printing has been (for me) the most affordable way to get the sculpts for the classic figures, and most tournaments are okay with you bringing unpainted figures since all that really matters for gameplay are the original hitzones of the figures, if you're not big on painting yourself. There are lots of tutorials online on how to do 3D printing if you're unfamiliar. And if you don't have the equipment to print, lots of places offer the service, including some public libraries that do monochrome prints on the cheap (I got 20 monochrome Wyrmling prints from a local library for a little under $15). Some sellers on eBay also do high quality prints of old figures, usually at a premium, but still cheaper than getting originals. Here's a forum thread with .stl files for most of the official figures: www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=54977 And you can usually find most VC units on Thingiverse. If you want to learn about the VC, and the VC roster, here's their site: heroscapecustoms.wordpress.com/ 2) Casual, Competitive, or Both Next would be to decide how you plan to play. Do you want to play casually or for fun, or do you want to attend tournaments and play competitively? If you plan to play casually, you really can't go wrong with any figure in the game, official or VC. Regardless of "power level," all figures can be fun in their own right, and I don't knock casual play, as it can be a space to experiment with figures that otherwise wouldn't see tournament play. And that can lead to some amazing games. If you want to play competitively, then you'll want to be more discerning in what figures you invest in, as not all units are equally viable. I do tier list videos on this channel sharing my thoughts on competitive viability of official units, but I'm really following in the footsteps of master players who've ranked them all before. A great place to figure out which units to get is Heroscape.org's Autoload Army Builder. This is a comprehensive list of all official and VC units to date, and it was recently updated with AoA units I talked about in this video. Here's the link: heroscape.org/builder/ You can filter by "power rankings" to show which units are considered "strong" and which considered "weak." As you familiarize yourself with unit powers/abilities, you'll start to see certain army "builds" appear. Builds with bonding and order marker flexibility tend to be strong, but there are others. OEAO, one of the pillars of competitive Heroscape, has a "competitive buying guide" that can point you in the right direction of which units you should have in your collection as a competitive player, official or 3D-printed. Here's his piece on it: www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=60710 Echoing some of his notes, the figures from the first Master Set (Rise of the Valkyrie) are still fairly cheap, and some of them are still very strong in today's competitive environment. Marro Warriors, old Raelin, Grimnak, and Krav Maga Agents are all very strong, and there's plenty other good ones from that set besides. I've given you a lot to read, but hopefully this gets you started. Would love to hear how your Heroscape journey goes as you get into it. Welcome to the family!
@doggindays2631
@doggindays2631 4 ай бұрын
Gah! Knew I forgot something. In response to my first comment, here are the "Books of" indexes for official classic units and VC units. Official Classic: www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=8099 VC: www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=33402 These are great resources that will show you synergies units have with other units as well as ruling clarifications on some of their powers. For VC, these Books will tell you which figure was used for the unit and from what toyline, and you can often use that name to find the figure on eBay or another store. You may have to rebase them with Heroscape bases. Trexy3D has excellent 3D-printed Heroscape bases you can use for that, if you plan to get into it: www.trexy3d.com/ These Books also have all the images of the cards for the different units, which you can print out. Much cheaper than getting original cards. Hope this helps!
@stri26
@stri26 4 ай бұрын
@@doggindays2631 Thank you for putting so much into that response! I really appreciate it. Looking forward to digging deeper, and reading through some of the "Book of..." articles. I ended up finding a nicely priced ROTV+misc collection, so I'm in!
@GaryLASQ
@GaryLASQ 4 ай бұрын
9:18 I keep saying we NEED an audio file of someone (Craig maybe?) saying all the names in Heroscape so we can all say them in agreement. 24:41 Mika's special says she can put shadow on "land spaces" but Ewashia just says "space" without saying "land". So, was this a mistake, or will we be bending a map building rule going forward for Ewashia? Hmm... 53:57 Think of it this way... Humans can run, but we ride horses to go faster and save energy. This is just the flying version of the same principle. My qualm is the saber-tooth tiger is a tad too cute, more like a Tigger than a tiger. If I show up at a game store with it, the Wh40K players might laugh at it. 😄 1:00:31 Soulweaver, Vineweaver, either way the song Dreamweaver comes to mind 😄 Funny, I'm the opposite. I like the gold-ish/yellow torso, but not so much the purple wings. I'm sure it will grow on me after a while. 1:51:35 Excellent Wrap Up. I'm GaryLASQ on Heroscapers.com and Discord.
@doggindays2631
@doggindays2631 4 ай бұрын
That would be very welcome. There is something close to that on the forums: www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=41694 Generally, I want to keep in line with official pronunciations, but some old habits die hard. Long before this channel, my friends and I got used to our own house pronunciations of certain unit names, and I'll always find it hard to train out of them. Some though I just can't bring myself to change. I know Ullar's big dragon is meant to be pronounced "KAIR-ohs" or "KAHR-ohs," but...nah. On this channel, he's "CHAR-ohs." Thanks for the comment!
@ckclau3422
@ckclau3422 4 ай бұрын
Great video
@jackstory233
@jackstory233 4 ай бұрын
the varkaanans have a couple of large 4 man squads
@doggindays2631
@doggindays2631 4 ай бұрын
You sir have a spot on the corrections pin. Indeed they do! Completely forgot about the Varks. Thanks for pointing that out!
@kimobruns
@kimobruns 4 ай бұрын
Love the in-depth coverage!