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@disloyalyou5455
@disloyalyou5455 19 күн бұрын
How tall are you? Just wanna compare to my self how my fit would look
@adrianmagalas4954
@adrianmagalas4954 29 күн бұрын
Great vid. Thanks! I’m keen on Enve rims. 4.5 or the 3.4. Unsure yet which. How would the Enve wheels ride with a 32mm tyre? I’m not so interested in aero as I am comfort for long miles and lots of climbs (like gran fondo or audax rides). I run a 32mm tyre on a 21mm internal rim at moment. What would the difference be with the 25mm internal width Enve?
@jiataojohnwu1228
@jiataojohnwu1228 Ай бұрын
Did you have problem clipping in when you first installed the Shimano SPD-SL cleat? When I try to clip in on my bike, it’s doesn’t have the float like my other shoes, it’s stiff on the left and the right side doesn’t even clip in. Do you have any solutions to my problem with these shoes? I have the DMT KR0
@JuCarlos-ex8ip
@JuCarlos-ex8ip Ай бұрын
These are the reviews I like to see from the customers
@Arsenalcycling
@Arsenalcycling Ай бұрын
6.8kg size 56! Isn’t Carapazs 7.3 size small! How is yours so light?
@cspoh4357
@cspoh4357 15 күн бұрын
may be without the pedals. mine 54 hi mod with sram red, 404 FC, momo handlebar with bottle cage, computer mount and LOOK blade ceramic pedal weight 7.39 kg.
@714SNF
@714SNF Ай бұрын
beautiful bike!
@jano1170
@jano1170 2 ай бұрын
Got a pair of these. If you have a narrower feet with a lower arch, it will fit you. If you have wider feet, annd especially if you have a high foot arch, forget them. With my high arch feet I can barelly put these on with the BOAs fully opened. Will send them back.
@DaM.1
@DaM.1 2 ай бұрын
There is no way a 1 to 2 mph difference is possible between wheelsets. Every aero test done gives differences that are maximum 3 to 4W
@jackiewong0806
@jackiewong0806 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I was wondering why I've not heard these wheels and your video answered it. To be fair though, I've an ENVE 5.6 with the same Chris King R45D Ceramic hubs, and they've been working flawlessly. I live in Seattle and these are the wheels I used in rainy days (my other bike is rim brake with ENVE 4.5 so I don't use it in rain to avoid damaging the rims), and always wash them after each ride using garden hose. I literally just service them two days ago for the first time since 2020 (only put 3,200 miles on them though as I've multiple bikes), and the bearing were still in great condition when serviced. So I guess your worry about water sealing is not necessary.
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 2 ай бұрын
Good to hear first hand experience with wet weather. The hubs do spin beautifully smooth!
@ericpmoss
@ericpmoss 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if the new Gen 4 hub design will fix some of those issues.
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 2 ай бұрын
The new hubs look great. I actually didn't have any issues with the old version, aside from the annoying preload ring requiring an external lock ring on the rear hub. The bearings and free hub were silky smooth.
@tonyfadulu4152
@tonyfadulu4152 2 ай бұрын
Wrong about the use of color to show heart rate zones. The Garmin does do this. You just need to add one of the "Graphical" screens.
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 2 ай бұрын
The Garmin graph is really not the same as a the Wahoo color field. It sort of works, but it's not as good for glanceability.
@kiljohn5036
@kiljohn5036 2 ай бұрын
Which garmin mount in the front, and varia mount are you using? Could you attach the link? Cannot find them!
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 2 ай бұрын
The one in front is the one that comes stock with the bike. The one on the rear is one that was 3D printed for the Swat mounting bolts on the Specialized saddle.
@simonwarmer8777
@simonwarmer8777 3 ай бұрын
Good review, thanks! I see you ride galfer rotors. So do I on my 4.5’s 140 in the front and back (Holland/flat). Do you know how they hold up in the mountains?
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 3 ай бұрын
I use 160F/140R. They do well on most of the bigger downhills, but they can start to fade after aggressive braking on very steep hairpin sections (around -15% to -20%). It happens infrequently enough that I keep using them. The new Shimano CL rotors, though heavier, do seem to be a pretty good alternative that don't experience the same fade.
@simonwarmer8777
@simonwarmer8777 3 ай бұрын
@@utahcanyoncycling great! Thanks for sharing your experience
@synergytech7323
@synergytech7323 3 ай бұрын
I care a lot about the paint job and that is a big influence to bike I buy.
@rafaelraban4814
@rafaelraban4814 3 ай бұрын
Your shoes are cleaner than your ceiling… holy cobwebs Spider-Man lol😅
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 3 ай бұрын
If you can only clean one thing, I guess it has to be the white shoes haha.
@jeffrysusanto78
@jeffrysusanto78 3 ай бұрын
Thx for sharing 👍
@TerjeRiisnaes
@TerjeRiisnaes 3 ай бұрын
Great video! It would be interesting to see a comparison between Enve 4.5 and Enve 45 (SES vs Foundation in other words)
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 3 ай бұрын
If price is a factor, stick to your budget. If price is not a factor, I much prefer the 4.5s, as long as you are happy to run 29mm tires (or bigger). The 4.5 are more stable, accelerate better, and slightly faster.
@wallyklejka5754
@wallyklejka5754 3 ай бұрын
How this bike compare to S-Works SL7 ?
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 3 ай бұрын
I haven't ridden the SL7, but I do have a review in the works for the SL8. I'd say the S5 is marginally faster and stiffer feeling. The SL8 is very well balanced. I enjoy both bikes. I race and do group rides on the S5, but I mostly ride and train on the SL8. I'd like to do a follow up review on the S5 so drop any questions you have my way.
@MURRED.
@MURRED. 3 ай бұрын
What is the maximum tire size that can be installed?
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 3 ай бұрын
Cervelo claim 34 WAM but I'd say 32 WAM is about as far as you'd actually want to push it.
@drjanswiercz1616
@drjanswiercz1616 3 ай бұрын
How tall are you?
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 3 ай бұрын
185cm / 6'1"
@luckyle6
@luckyle6 3 ай бұрын
Why I can't find this model on the P2M website…
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 3 ай бұрын
Their website is not great, but the option should be there, they don't advertise the magnetic charger on the NG.
@andrewgay7137
@andrewgay7137 3 ай бұрын
A healthy does of carbon paste and the proper torque spec (8nm - higher than you expect) solved my seatpost creaking.
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 3 ай бұрын
Glad that worked for you! I had to warranty mine.
@mikeursal6157
@mikeursal6157 4 ай бұрын
Hello there, whats the difference with this NG and the NG eco? Also, can i use a Carbon Ti rings with this set up?
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 3 ай бұрын
The NG is the higher tier model and the Eco, while still accurate, has a few less features. You can use this with Carbon Ti rings as long as you select the correct BCD. Though, the Carbon Ti rings are not any lighter than DA chainrings.
@rossettoroxy8323
@rossettoroxy8323 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. Can wahoo navigation also be used for walking? I would also like to use it for trekking as well as mountain biking
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 4 ай бұрын
Interesting question. I don’t think either computer has base maps comprehensive enough for trekking
@caseyratcliff3169
@caseyratcliff3169 4 ай бұрын
Does DMT shoes have removable shoe beds or are the fixed permanent?
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 4 ай бұрын
They have a thin removable insole, but the footbed is quite shaped so fitting an aftermarket insole would be tough.
@cyberx7098
@cyberx7098 4 ай бұрын
Great comparison video on these three wheelsets. How does the SES 4.5 compare to the Zipp 454 NSW? I am also curious how the SES 4.5 would compare to the Princeton Peak 4550 with the Tactics TR01 hubs?
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 4 ай бұрын
In my opinion the 4.5 are the best. The 454 accelerate a little quicker, but the 4.5 are faster over all, and to use a cliche, hold their speed better. The 4.5 also have a better hub than the 454. The 4550 are well made wheels, but are sluggish and bland. The tactic hubs lower the overall weight, but have little affect on how the wheel feels since the rim weight makes a bigger difference there and the princeton rims are quite heavy compared to the other options.
@stuartdryer1352
@stuartdryer1352 4 ай бұрын
I'm personally not a big fan of hookless rooms. At least not in 2024.
@1993PAG
@1993PAG 5 ай бұрын
Perhaps the creaking IS the seat post. BUT...I have the 353s and the 454s. The rear hubs get dry and start creaking. When it first happened I suspected seat post...but it was the hub. Lubricant fixes the problem.
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 5 ай бұрын
Good suggestion, it definitely was the seatpost in this case. My 353s have DT hubs. I got tired of the Cognition ones haha.
@mateuspabst5150
@mateuspabst5150 5 ай бұрын
I just bought a brand new 330 firecrest whel set and I realize that the zr1 hubs get a little sticky as soon as through axle is tightened, no pendulum moves with a minimal tighten is aplicaded for exemple, no disc brake interference. I was ride about 100 miles and the problem remains... Is it normal? What can I do?
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 5 ай бұрын
Mine don’t have that issue. Some small resistance for new bearings is normal as fresh grease is moved around, but any type of sticking doesn’t sound right. I’d recommend having a shop inspect them.
@mrs3lfd3s7ruc7
@mrs3lfd3s7ruc7 5 ай бұрын
Rear looks pretty similar to Scott Foil, or vice versa. 🤷
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 5 ай бұрын
The S5 technically came first but the two do look similar. The Foil’s seat stays are angled more aggressively.
@UltimateTuner10
@UltimateTuner10 5 ай бұрын
I have a Madone SLR 9 (but with Ultegra, or an SLR7 with the RSL51 wheels) and my buddy just picked up a same size used S5 with 64mm Enves. I’m excited to swap bikes on a ride and see how it feels compared to mine. I did notice the bar flex on the Madone you mentioned if I push them around standing still but when I’m riding i don’t feel it at all. I think the wider footprint of the stem on the S5 makes the bars naturally stiffer
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 5 ай бұрын
I would totally agree with you, curious what you think after trying your buddy’s bike. It’s always nice to hear second opinions!
@ImSueeb
@ImSueeb 5 ай бұрын
All looks sick minus the chain ring lol
@samelgore7575
@samelgore7575 6 ай бұрын
Has anyone compared 303S to Roval C-38 being which are close in price and service support? Thanks
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 5 ай бұрын
The Rovals are the better wheels in my opinion, mostly due to better hubs. Support should be similar.
@thedronescene7474
@thedronescene7474 6 ай бұрын
Isn't that bike too small for you?
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 6 ай бұрын
Yes, too small for me. This is my friends bike, he’s smaller.
@alonsoporcell
@alonsoporcell 6 ай бұрын
Regards from Chile
@chrisbustos4358
@chrisbustos4358 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. I have been looking forward to hearing more ride reviews on Chris King ARD44 since they launched last year. I thought there was an embargo because there have been very few ride reviews/impressions so far... and the one I read from Escape Collective. It was the same as its just ok. A bit disappointed.
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 6 ай бұрын
Glad this helped. I wish I could have given a better review. Maybe there will be an improved v2 in a couple years. Thanks for watching!
@user-cu7cn1km7i
@user-cu7cn1km7i 6 ай бұрын
Always thankful for your Enve SES 4.5 video. You were instrumental to me buying them 9 months ago. Hands down best on the planet! Keep up the good work. Ironman LJ
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! It's great to hear you're still loving the wheels. They are still some of my favorites.
@Timtimzi
@Timtimzi 6 ай бұрын
I just got the DMT shoes. The heel is loose compared to the giros if I were to walk normally. The rubber gripper is meh I got the DMT on sale for half off, but giro is probably my trusted shoe.
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 6 ай бұрын
I agree with you. The heel is a bit loose, but I do have skinnier heels. Giro are still my favorites, though recently I've been mixing in the S-Phyre too.
@simonirvine1628
@simonirvine1628 6 ай бұрын
Do you really know the real reason why deep section wheels were introduced into road racing and where their major benefit is within a race. That's one for you to think about, I look forward to your answer and lets see if you get it right. Peace
@timwong6818
@timwong6818 6 ай бұрын
Don't feel like the wave shape on most wheels are making any difference, if not making things worse than simple round shape. I got that zipp did that as they probably did pay for wind tunnel testing and found this useful. But for most others, their wave shape rims simply looks like a ugly and uncessary copy from zipp and making the rim looks cooler. Besides, even zipp admit that 454 actually is slightly more draggy than 404 in terms of 90degree headwind situtation. You gain aero benefits, and then you will lose some, no free lunch.
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 6 ай бұрын
Yep, I even mention that exact thing in my Zipp video.
@mosesmcgregor
@mosesmcgregor 6 ай бұрын
What Garmin bracket/mount is on the saddle? Looks good
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 6 ай бұрын
It’s a 3D printed swat mount for the Garmin varia.
@Hunttherider
@Hunttherider 7 ай бұрын
I am keen on learning more about the Melee - 5 months on from this video, any longer term ride opinions to share? Thks.
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 6 ай бұрын
Yes, putting together a short video soon!
@emira.padron9967
@emira.padron9967 7 ай бұрын
Im between S5 or the Madone. Any suggestions or advice?
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 7 ай бұрын
Personally, I liked the S5 more and thought the build quality was slightly better than the Madone. The Madone was more comfortable, but the S5 had a stiffer BB and handlebar that I liked. Both bikes are good though, so pick the one you like the look of most and that also fits you the best.
@jaredpovey9934
@jaredpovey9934 7 ай бұрын
Regarding the comfort - would you ride LoToJa on this bike?
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 7 ай бұрын
I would ride LOTOJA on this, but with some lighter 45-50mm wheels to help with the three climbs and 28-30mm tires. The only section of the race that wouldn’t be ideal is that stretch of road near Thayne that’s always rough on a stiff bike.
@R00RAL
@R00RAL 7 ай бұрын
Are 808 really that bad in a cross wind ? I was looking at them as i previously had 404 firecrest.
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 7 ай бұрын
Unless you’re using them for a Tri/TT bike the 404s are the better pick over the 808s for road riding.
@R00RAL
@R00RAL 7 ай бұрын
@utahcanyoncycling OK, thank you. Yes road racing is more what I was looking at. I have had traffic tell me I'm doing 60km/hr as sign posted. I just point at my own speedo gauge. 404's were incredible. Was like cycling without wheels / winds.
@duffyrides
@duffyrides 7 ай бұрын
How does this bike compare to the Scott Addicf RC to you ? I also have the Scott Addict RC and love it but I’m thinking to try something different in the new year . Curious on your thoughts. Thanks !
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 7 ай бұрын
In my opinion the Scott is the better bike. The Cannondale is a bit more aerodynamic on the flat roads, but overall I prefer the Addict.
@duffyrides
@duffyrides 7 ай бұрын
@@utahcanyoncycling wow that’s interesting ! I was about to sell my Scott as I’m looking for a change. Now you have me wondering. Did you keep the Scott or what is your main bike now ?
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I crashed the Scott so I’m currently riding as S5 and SL8. The S5 is quick but stiff. The SL8 is very well balanced. Also, I think the Addict is due to be updated next year.
@duffyrides
@duffyrides 7 ай бұрын
@@utahcanyoncycling sorry to hear that about the Scott! Yes the Scott should be due an update in 2024 but who knows when. I’ve also been looking at the SL8 as a potential option, you are right in that Specialized really seem to have a balanced package. I did a review comparing the SL7 to Scott Addict RC on my channel, it’s really a toss up between the two bikes for me, I think the SL7 is slightly better at maintaining speed on the flats and also has slightly better bump compliance but that’s just what I feel. The Scott is still my go to bike for now.
@moobaz8675
@moobaz8675 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, that was really useful. I'm currently swayed towards the 353 NSW. I think they will make a solid all rounder for the hills and roads in Mallorca.
@alexforero2674
@alexforero2674 7 ай бұрын
Gran video gracias por su tiempo 👏
@vr4966
@vr4966 7 ай бұрын
Surprised to ceramic speed and such a quality piece of functional art.
@4ndyc74
@4ndyc74 8 ай бұрын
The flex is due the the delta steerer, essentially a triangle in a round hole. Slamming it with stiffer cockpit helps
@utahcanyoncycling
@utahcanyoncycling 7 ай бұрын
I didn’t have any issues with handlebar flex, it was the bottom bracket area that was too soft for my taste.
@4ndyc74
@4ndyc74 7 ай бұрын
I've built 3 and all with noticeably flexy steerers (compared to a round steerer) so assumed that was what you were referring to. Interesting it was the bb area that yr not happy with @@utahcanyoncycling