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@Moyzan258
@Moyzan258 3 күн бұрын
Can't wait to get destroyed by everyone! :)
@JustinBerg274
@JustinBerg274 Ай бұрын
Long awkward hugs from Mike!!!!
@Noahineer
@Noahineer Ай бұрын
This was a good listen, cant wait to get the new book into the wiki!
@erichtrowbridge2217
@erichtrowbridge2217 Ай бұрын
I’m one of tens!
@TheDrewcas
@TheDrewcas Ай бұрын
I love my green stinkbaby! I had no idea what the trophy was for, so glad i lucked my way into it
@THELEGENDARYK2
@THELEGENDARYK2 2 ай бұрын
Hey this is my GT
@Gaddafied23
@Gaddafied23 2 ай бұрын
First comment! Looking forward to more videos :)
@mikefatima
@mikefatima 2 ай бұрын
Ya Justin!
@VictoriaWargaming
@VictoriaWargaming 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this.
@Nerve_Check
@Nerve_Check 3 ай бұрын
Any major disagreements?
@JustinBerg274
@JustinBerg274 3 ай бұрын
Ben’s takes are as bad as his gameplay! But I love y’all! Keep up the great work.
@JustinBerg274
@JustinBerg274 3 ай бұрын
A rating instead of EH rating! Missed opportunity
@Nerve_Check
@Nerve_Check 3 ай бұрын
I think we should incorporate that into the follow up video on Heroic Artefacts, Eh... :-)
@HordesofThings
@HordesofThings 3 ай бұрын
Riverguard Sentinel got extra attack too which matters, 5x 4+ piercing, 5x 3+ Crush, and the Amphibian vicious aura, plus the timing on poison frog :)
@Nerve_Check
@Nerve_Check 3 ай бұрын
With dualist, and the leaper ability you might have a solid character hunter now.
@Themasterstools
@Themasterstools 3 ай бұрын
it's not looking good fellas
@Nerve_Check
@Nerve_Check 3 ай бұрын
I don't think it's bad. The loss of the formation hurts, but several units received minor boosts so, likely a list that remains in level but doesn't move up to top tier.
@Gaddafied23
@Gaddafied23 3 ай бұрын
The suggested trident king upgrades are super cool. Definitely a possibility in the future I feel
@Nerve_Check
@Nerve_Check 3 ай бұрын
That suggestion was something I only thought up last night. Would need to be refined, but I think Mantic could do something cool using their existing Dambuster, Centurion on Wrym, and the chariot model as a base with Aura's or unique army upgrades associated with each one. I don't get where the chariot base and model rules originated from so I don't think much would be lost.
@michaciemniewski9791
@michaciemniewski9791 3 ай бұрын
DEF 6+ - all we have is cheaper Dambusters, Coral Giant and 3xLB with extra piercing. Sadly I think Mr Luke winning Masters did not help the army at all. "Oh You can win with it" argument is valid and we can see it in the changes. Little bit here, little bit there. NA rules sells models. New TR rules do not discard You from buying models which is not the same. Especially Siren and Dambusters (both in starter boxes)! Loosing nimble after reasonable cost reduction (how nimble makes them similar to Wyrmriders even remotely?) looked like "extra caution" not to make them too good. Treeleaper dambusters looks very tasty but I get why everyone is concerned with 165 points cost. I will use my plastics to build Treeleaper version (I already have 3 units of resin ones!) and give them a spin. We will see. Overall I like the cautious pace of rule changing but NS and TK armies gave us a wrong impression about what to expect in an army update.
@michaciemniewski9791
@michaciemniewski9791 3 ай бұрын
29:30 - no Formation in Ambush games so te formation will not work there.
@michaciemniewski9791
@michaciemniewski9791 3 ай бұрын
18:00 - it does work on elemental itself! "In the Movement phase, after this unit has completed its order, THIS unit and all Friendly Core units within 6”: As a Trident King player - drop in attacks hurts his shooting a little (he got shattering) but overall, with extra TC, he got slightly, slightly better.
@Nerve_Check
@Nerve_Check 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the Radiance pick up - we goofed up. Not a rule I have used to date in any of my armies. I agree with the Trident King getting slightly better, just wasn't commonly seen before, not likely to be more common as a result of these changes (in my opinion).
@michaciemniewski9791
@michaciemniewski9791 3 ай бұрын
@@Nerve_Check King's changes were cosmetic but multiplies to the flank! 24 4+ CS1/TC1 attacks does approx. 11 wounds to a def 5 unit. Old version does 8 on average. So an improvement. I like the idea behind 3 kings but this one has one interesting aspect. Chariot base which adds to the option pool.
@michaciemniewski9791
@michaciemniewski9791 3 ай бұрын
Pathfinder is something RC tries to keep under control. Avey Pathfinder upgrade becomes autoinclude and we already have Naiads (wyrms/ensnarers) and Riverguard with built in pathfinder.
@Nerve_Check
@Nerve_Check 3 ай бұрын
Pathfinder (and it's immense availability) was one of the reasons I was drawn to this army (nimble being the other factor). I agree with keeping pathfinder in check, but losing it completely from the Thuul hurt a lot.
@michaciemniewski9791
@michaciemniewski9791 3 ай бұрын
There are still Boots we can reach for. We never had to before...
@michaciemniewski9791
@michaciemniewski9791 3 ай бұрын
4:21 - it is worth keeping in mind that Poison Frog is now widely avaliable. To Thuul, Depth Horrors, naiads... And riverguard (javelins), got not only extra attacks but nerve and defence.
@Nerve_Check
@Nerve_Check 3 ай бұрын
The poison frog change is in my mind one of the most significant positive changes to the list. Previously I had brutal on my wyrms, but this allows for more changes and options. Very happy to see it!
@michaciemniewski9791
@michaciemniewski9791 3 ай бұрын
@@Nerve_Check this is a way to get morę punch in the list. This "one extra" is golden on a non punchy list. And a reason I might take wyrmriders one day.
@michaciemniewski9791
@michaciemniewski9791 3 ай бұрын
1:45 - we also got new Tidal Swarms AND resin siren model. Dambusters (treeleapers, riverguard and arbalest).
@kyleprzelenski6196
@kyleprzelenski6196 3 ай бұрын
Great feedback guys thanks for the thoughts.
@joelzigelstein6111
@joelzigelstein6111 5 ай бұрын
Ah man! It will be great to see you all. Yes - my beard is gone, just a (small) goatee! And I am expecting to do poorly, but these were the models I have!
@JustinBerg274
@JustinBerg274 5 ай бұрын
Am I the only weirdo that made separate 1995 and 2500 lists and then figured out the difference from there?
@Nerve_Check
@Nerve_Check 5 ай бұрын
I am not sure how you accomplished that, but I am impressed.
@JustinBerg274
@JustinBerg274 5 ай бұрын
@@Nerve_Check so I had about 1600 pts that were 1 for 1 in each list. And then I kind of figured what I wanted to add from there, eg: third hammer, extra phoenix, a little bit more shooting. And then worked out what to add where from there.
@JustinBerg274
@JustinBerg274 5 ай бұрын
So both lists are concessions to the other list. But it’s still all generically good stuff.
@joelzigelstein6111
@joelzigelstein6111 5 ай бұрын
I went 2500 then reduced. It has been so long since I have played, but somehow my numbers worked!
@patoflechat
@patoflechat 5 ай бұрын
Actually thought the first day was on 1995 then escalated to 2500. So I built the 1995 then added 505 pts afterwards.
@JustinBerg274
@JustinBerg274 5 ай бұрын
I came for the it depends on the scenario, and left disappointed.
@Nerve_Check
@Nerve_Check 5 ай бұрын
Sorry to disappoint. Will try to do better next time :-)
@JustinBerg274
@JustinBerg274 5 ай бұрын
@@Nerve_Check I love you guys!
@Nerve_Check
@Nerve_Check 8 ай бұрын
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@timwright1484
@timwright1484 10 ай бұрын
Awesome break down!
@mikemccready7886
@mikemccready7886 10 ай бұрын
Ray, Ben has led you astray. His is not the best club in Ontario...
@timwright1484
@timwright1484 11 ай бұрын
Awe shucks, thanks guys 😊
@timwright1484
@timwright1484 11 ай бұрын
Yeah… we don’t need a New Zealander…. 😂
@timwright1484
@timwright1484 11 ай бұрын
Lol, don’t forget that Nathan also let me stay at the same time
@timwright1484
@timwright1484 11 ай бұрын
Your always welcome to come up for a game!
@elvendarkness1
@elvendarkness1 11 ай бұрын
KZfaqr inspiring 👏
@elvendarkness1
@elvendarkness1 11 ай бұрын
Stop, reverse that, inspiring KZfaqr, much better.
@troyphoto7
@troyphoto7 11 ай бұрын
I didn't have Dwarf Lord on Large Beast in my Dwarven list... but I came in 22/28
@Nerve_Check
@Nerve_Check 11 ай бұрын
Dwarf lord on a large beast is a strong element right now. I have even seen some lists with three at 2300. I loss to Dale with this combo. They are simply great value.
@troyphoto7
@troyphoto7 11 ай бұрын
@@Nerve_Check Hmmmm.... perhaps my quest for the coveted wooden spoon might advance if I were to build with Mastiff Hunting Packs and Lords on Lg Beats???