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@Sandstorm_WCUE 2 сағат бұрын
19:18 "who the fuck is BirchFall?"
@I_missthesage 14 сағат бұрын
I read that title wrong and I got so scared and confused 😭
@quotingstardust7504 18 сағат бұрын
My roommates cat is solid white, he had the van pattern just on the very top of his head but it disappeared as he aged
@tropicaldino Күн бұрын
I wonder about catdog genetics
@PurMond Күн бұрын
So does that mean SOMETIMES (rarely) there's a chance i can found a brown cat? :D
@SirSturgeon Күн бұрын
I just got out of my sophomore year of biology, and I think the most memorable thing I learned was genetics tbh. Genetics are extremely interesting but complicated to me, its motivated me to write and draw more, and just research in general. I absolutely love this video and I'm glad that this video is here on KZfaq :) thanks for posting, you don't know how happy I am!
@ataris.adventures Күн бұрын
YAYYYYYY IVE BEEN WAITINF FOR THIS
@nachomori5764 2 күн бұрын
My cat always keeps me guessing on whether she's a cream tabby or a fawn tabby because her stripes are so inconsistent in different lighting
@nachomori5764 3 күн бұрын
AHHH I LOVE THESE SO MUCH! THE GENETICS NERD IN ME IS GOING CRAZY!! The way you present these videos is also so engaged and open, you take time to explain things in easy to understand ways and the little punnet square exercises are just such a sweet idea, thank you so much this is so cool!
@lillyanne4378 3 күн бұрын
8:17 Kitty ☺
@EmployeeKB 3 күн бұрын
"lets do the genetics of a clangen family tree," i said, "it would be fun," I SAID. i have had to pull carnelian out of who-knows-where twice.
@littlehungrywarrior 3 күн бұрын
MOOD.
@EmployeeKB 3 күн бұрын
@@littlehungrywarrior somehow, two completely average ginger cats had 3 [mostly] normal looking kits. and then a somali-looking kit. like how did yall do that. you dont even carry anything other than ginger!!
@littlehungrywarrior 2 күн бұрын
@@EmployeeKB Loooool rip!!!
@EmployeeKB 2 күн бұрын
@@littlehungrywarrior another update if you want it: a cinnamon cat and a ginger cat had a cinnamon female kit. thank the lord they were diluted so i can just say hard-to-tell tortie...
@Mimikyu007 3 күн бұрын
The maths make it reaaaally confusing for me (I have dyscalculia) but I love genetics either way!
@littlehungrywarrior 3 күн бұрын
I bet I can help make it a bit easier? Punnett squares are letter-based so hopefully filling them in isn't too difficult - sorry to hear if it is :( luckily you have all the time in the world to double-check them. As for the math part for the %s that come after - there's 4 squares. So, if there's 1 square with a/a, that's 1 out of 4 chance. If there's 2 squares with a/a, that's a 2 out of 4 chance. it doesn't need to get super complicated with lots of numbers and fancy equations - just simple counting on your fingers. does that help at all? <:)
@EmployeeKB 3 күн бұрын
dog genetics terminology HAS to be the exact opposite to snakes. when it comes to snakes people try their hardest to keep the words the same, even if its just a similar morph in a different species. however, it appears the people making the words for dogs just do whatever they want forever.
@lizard8749 4 күн бұрын
Ooo I’m writing a comic where someone has a particular breed of mutt they keep around so this will be fun
@k0masan960 4 күн бұрын
im two days late but im here!! im currently trying (and struggling) to write a warriors-like book series about stray dog packs living in a human-filled city, and i love animal genetics, so this is so for me! the whole tan, black, and agouti thing made me want to throw my head against the wall too so i feel ya OOF. (saddle and creeping tan, my beloathed) i hope you end up talking about merles and harlequins (a great dane-specific gene) in this series, and i hope you bring up just how bad and disgusting double-merles and solid white/albino dobermans are. but if those aren't on your list that's fine since dog genetics seems more complex than i could ever imagine. lol. thanks for your hard work. and sorry if this comment is long, im passionate and excited and have been waiting since your last cat genetics vid :)
@littlehungrywarrior 3 күн бұрын
Merle is getting its own dedicated video that will include harlequin >:3 and albino comes up in the "White" video. I'm aware of increased risk of skin cancer + eye problems in albino dobermans - is there another health problem I'm unaware of associated w/Z albino that I should include? Thank you :3 I hope it helps ur dog story!
@k0masan960 3 күн бұрын
@littlehungrywarrior yay, can't wait for those episodes to come out! as for albino dobie risks, i only really 100% know the common risks like eye and skin issues. but ive read that albino dobes just have lists of problems--from fertility issues to osteopetrosis (stone bones) to spinal bifida... but im no expert either, just a semi-enthusiast who's forgetful. i have no links of my own to provide. sorry i can't help more ;;
@littlehungrywarrior 3 күн бұрын
@@k0masan960 I'll look into it - thank you!
@1Catlandia3 4 күн бұрын
I have a clan already made by myself called Willow’Clan can I keep it?
@littlehungrywarrior 3 күн бұрын
yeah duh lol. what you think i copywrote "Willowclan"? I don't even own warriors
@1Catlandia3 3 күн бұрын
@@littlehungrywarrior thanks lol
@LaiaCiurana 4 күн бұрын
hey, i was doing a fireheart's genetically acurate family tree based in yours but with other cats like lionblaze's kits and i was wondering two things. -First of all, how can a descendent of squirrelflight (finchlight) be a tortie if the ginger of the family is black with high ruffosing? -And then, is it possible to be a smoke-gray tabby (cinderheart)???? thanks :)))
@littlehungrywarrior 4 күн бұрын
Ooh sounds fun! :O I have no idea, sorry :( the new characters don't interest me so I didn't give them any thought when I made this. It sounds like a fun, tough challenge to try to solve! It might very well be a situation where you'll have to go back and edit the initial Sqrlf & Sand/Fire genetics......or, if you're comfortable doing so, make her a chimera between ruddy and black? Smokes cannot be tabbies, because smoke is the phenotype that results from the interaction of Inhibitor and non-agouti. If the cat was a tabby, they would be silver instead. That being said, a lot of smokes show "ghost stripes," so she can still have some visible striping, but she wouldn't be a tabby and she'd have the a/a genotype.
@LaiaCiurana 4 күн бұрын
@@littlehungrywarrior thank uuuuuuuuuu. Btw, how would a chimera between ruddy and black work? Like, for writing the allels like in the video?
@littlehungrywarrior 3 күн бұрын
@@LaiaCiurana For a female, whichever genotype the ovaries have would be the one you write punnett squares for. It's possible the ovaries are a mix of both, in which case, just pick one each time you write out a square.
@pamspray5254 4 күн бұрын
I- I stumbled across this from the dog video thinking about ways to improve how I communicate visuals to an audio-only audience for an online game I run. But, I remembered something I said to myself at the end of the last semester: "I'll study a bit of the classes I'm taking next fall ahead of time so it's less stressful." I happen to be taking genetics this fall. This may not be professional, but it's helpful to serve as a reminder for terminology and application, I think. Thanks for reminding me of that desire I had. Now to find something on Mammalogy and Freshwater Ecology for some light background research.
@pamspray5254 4 күн бұрын
What's more wild is that I actually annotated a genome last semester. So I'm not exactly foreign to genetics. More just reaffirming it so I don't forget it. I annotated a genome. Yet I still haven't taken Modern Genetics.
@vinnydreusmire5035 4 күн бұрын
HELL YEAH NEW VIDEO
@GoldenKitty9 4 күн бұрын
The BASICS was the hardest part? I kinda wanna laugh at that fact, but I feel sorry for you so I won't. I think the rest of your life is just these for different species, by the way. If you didn't expect this one but it happened, more will probably happen without you expecting them, either, after you finish this.
@MaxineQuadsOfficial 4 күн бұрын
If I had to draw a whole clan WITH BODIES,UHHHM WELL I WOULD JUST KILL MYSELF AFTER FOXSTAR.
@littlehungrywarrior 4 күн бұрын
:( i hope u wouldnt. stay safe
@bluecollarden 5 күн бұрын
I love this!!
@msmith5617 5 күн бұрын
Thank you for another AWESOME Genetics series!!! Also, side note why in the world do dog breeders make finding the original color name so complicated??
@littlehungrywarrior 5 күн бұрын
Thank you!! My suspicion is that dog breeders come up w/a name before they understand the genes, and then just...keep using it after they know better?
@wbenga 5 күн бұрын
Oh you're gonna find that Asip does a similar thing in horses :) (BAY. JUST.... BAY.)
@Vombatiform2 5 күн бұрын
Bit of a correction. Creeping tan just refers to a dog with a single copy of the saddle gene. It was originally tought to be caused by RALY but this seems to have been debunked. Also it seems that generally creeping tan dogs are saddle/tan point or saddle/recessive black. Far as I know saddle/wolf grey doesn't give a saddled apperance and look more or less like regular wolf greys (there are dogs that look like they combine wolf grey with saddle, but wolf grey is so variable that it's a complete nightmare whitout genetic testing).
@littlehungrywarrior 5 күн бұрын
Apparently it's the other way around? Someone commented the same correction but read thru my sources & realized they were wrong. Apparently scientists thought RALY was on A, then realized it was a modifier of A, then also separately found Saddle on A
@Vombatiform2 5 күн бұрын
@@littlehungrywarrior Yeah. This is pretty confusing. Some websites seem to treat RALY as an alternate term for saddle and some treat them as distinct things that work in tandem. Coats and colors seems to say that creeping tan is just a term for a dog that is heterozygous for saddle and they are generally trustworthy (well as trustworthy as can be with things concerning the A locus)
@littlehungrywarrior 5 күн бұрын
@@Vombatiform2 I do love Coats & Colors as a source but I'm going to continue to trust the genetic testing site source I've found over a consolidating site. The distinction was only made within the last couple of years so hopefully over time we'll see less confusion as information spreads! and more information overall
@Vombatiform2 5 күн бұрын
@@littlehungrywarrior Fair enough. These things always take their time.
@frickfrickkin1723 5 күн бұрын
Correction: abs is an outdated theoretical allele, it doesn't actually exist. It was what the theory was for saddle before RALY was discovered. You used beagles as an example of abs & it being "born with a saddle", but they are also caused by the RALY modifier & if you look up pictures of pups, they're born darker as well. The abs sources you found likely are old and outdated
@littlehungrywarrior 5 күн бұрын
I'm seeing a lot of images of baby beagles who seem to have full-on saddles. Can I get a source for RALY/Abs being outdated? My tumblr's in the desc (may take me a while to reply, site's been slow to load for me lately)
@frickfrickkin1723 5 күн бұрын
@littlehungrywarrior Reading through your sources I appear to be wrong! It WAS the case that there was a hypothetical saddle allele on the A locus, that was then "disproven" by the presence of RALY, only to come full circle and now there has been discovered an A locus abs gene, which had in previous tests been grouped in with at (tan points). The more you know! I believe that was discovered in 2022? I did most of my dog genetics reading back in 2020. Science marches on, lol
@littlehungrywarrior 5 күн бұрын
@@frickfrickkin1723 :O that's amazing! I'm glad you/we got that figured out lol - I remember running into a few contradictory sources and being confused for a bit myself, til I just ended up going w/the most recent articles. Re: science marching on, I was recc'd doggenetics.co.uk as a source ages ago & returned to it when I began research. It's an amazing site but I was shocked to find out how outdated and incomplete some of the info is! I can tell the person running it is knowledgeable & passionate - it just goes to show how hard it is to keep up with so much information.
@frickfrickkin1723 5 күн бұрын
An interesting thing about Kb black in wolves and its selection being preferred in the wild: It's unlikely to be because of their appearance, but rather the effect the mutation also has on immune systems. The K locus isn't known to cause color mutations in any other animal except dogs/wolves, but is known to have a role in immune function. Apparently Kbk is beneficial to immune function, and so they fair a bit better than kk wolves. However, KbKb does *worse* than even kk wolves. So Kbk wolves do better, but it's unlikely to ever take complete control of a population. For example, in Yellowstone black wolves are about 45% of the population, with only a tenth of them being KbKb; it seems to have balanced around this ratio, where black makes up slightly less than half.
@littlehungrywarrior 5 күн бұрын
:O That's super interesting. I remember hearing about Kb/Kb homozygosity being Bad but I didn't look too deep into it since that's not what the video's about, I'd love to read more if you have a source. balanced polymorphisms from overdominance are crazy
@frickfrickkin1723 5 күн бұрын
Study is called "Natural Selection and Origin of a Melanistic Allele in North American Gray Wolves", can be read on Oxford Academic
@frickfrickkin1723 5 күн бұрын
I learned dog genetics well before I learned cat genetics, so they actually make more sense to me naturally. It's kinda funny seeing people coming in from cat genetics and being all "wahh this is so confusing!!" cuz a lot of cat stuff was/is like that for me, lol!
@thundergale 6 күн бұрын
I’ve been wondering why my black tabby cat’s fur has warmer hues than most black tabbies I’ve seen. The theory that widebanding is a gradient trait might just be the answer I was looking for since my cat's mother was a black-golden tabby. Somehow I’ve never considered that it may be a spectrum, thank you!
@horse14t 6 күн бұрын
The black wolf part is interesting. In my OC universe, which takes place on an alternate North America where the US, Mexico and Canada never formed I have a species of wolf called "Black Wolf" which are of course, black though can rarely have white markings. I haven't explored them interbreeding with Greys but I imagine it would happen at about the same rate as Polar Bears and Grizzlies, being super rare naturally but possible. They tend to favour forests and jungles and hunt larger prey than Greys.
@stormSeven 6 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to get to “merle” it’s one of my personal favourite markings
@littlehungrywarrior 5 күн бұрын
merle is getting its own dedicated episode >:3c
@stormSeven 5 күн бұрын
@@littlehungrywarrior Good luck! I hope your sanity stays sane
@LivinglyVivid 6 күн бұрын
Oh you absolute blessing. As someone working on a story(or roleplay... Have not decided if I have the patience to moderate a server-) revolving around once-domestic dogs surviving in an abandoned city, and just plain being hyperfixated on dogs/dog genetics at all times, I opted to try and look into dog genetics myself on a broad level. You know that "rubber room with rats and the rats made me crazy" audio? Yeah, replace "rats" with "dog genetics". I regret my decision, and I applaud you for even TRYING, let alone getting any information out in an easy-to-understand way. It's a hellscape, ESPECIALLY for someone with issues focusing and reading long, drawn-out paragraphs filled with terms that are not even properly defined in the first place. (And that's saying something, considering how everything I type, including messages to friends or just plain ole youtube comments, turn into novels....) THANK YOU for properly sourcing your finds, and linking additional reading, on top of alllll the rest of your work, you SAINT. Dog genetics are SO wild.... And there's just SO MUCH THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW ABOUT IT, AND THE INFORMATION ITSELF IS SCATTERED INTO A BILLION TINY SECTIONS ACROSS THE INTERNET OR JUST PLAIN ISN'T AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IN A CONSUMABLE WAY, ITS MADDENING. Good video, good content, thank you as always for your work.
@littlehungrywarrior 5 күн бұрын
Aw thanks!! Yeah it's crazy to me, like - dog genetics are SO much more well-studied than cats for so many reasons, and yet almost none of it is properly consolidated. what's the point of millions of dollars of funding to get this information if we aren't going to give this information to anyone? I have 4+ pages of ear notes and only 2 sentences of it are inheritance model. the sentences contradict each other.
@LivinglyVivid 5 күн бұрын
@@littlehungrywarrior EXACTLY! As much information as we have, I wish it was easier to locate- Which, thanks to you and the folks in that lovely discord server, I am now getting my wish to the best of someone's ability, so again, it's appreciated. I'll now be able to start picking up where I had left off design wise for some of the characters, especially as this series goes along. Oh my god KSJDNFSDKJNFSKN bless it- Yeah, I can understand. I don't even know where my notes went, but i remember having annotations that were just 'does not match the findings of so-and-so article from such-and-such study, needs verification' or the one that stands out the most in my memory: "...wha???" Like, I had actually made enough progress at one point to design a handful of characters. UNFORTUNATELY, I can no longer recall how I made the conclusions that I did! So I have a dilute brindle, long haired dog with amber eyes.... While his mother is blue, short haired, with blue eyes. Also she's harlequin. He is not. His bio sister IS. I genuinely do not recall how the brindle's other parent was designed to give them their traits in a somewhat-feasible way, I never drew out his dad's design, and I regret that after having misplaced my notes that explained that- I wouldn't be shocked if at some point I just went "screw it, this works' and rolled with it for the sake of giving myself a break from digging skdjfnksjdf Pardon the novel, I'm genuinely very excited about this series of yours, as well as being able to blab about how wild dog genetics are in general.
@littlehungrywarrior 5 күн бұрын
@@LivinglyVivid I hope I can help ya out w/those in future episodes >:3c
@cookie856 6 күн бұрын
Dogs breeders don't communicate with each other and then you get scientist calling a new(?) confirmed apparence gene after a candy from the country it's found it (hoping it doesn't negatively impact cats because that looks like a really nice coat)
@samsam-xn9ce 6 күн бұрын
yayy new genetics video !!
@Wildanimal200-dr7fg 6 күн бұрын
AYY! DOG GENETICS! LETS GOO!
@lindseylindsey9200 6 күн бұрын
2:09 dog: mmm lemon *hrk*
@littlehungrywarrior 6 күн бұрын
lemon dalmatians licking themselves be like
@Anamizuki 6 күн бұрын
An explanation for the confusing saddle; Saddle is more so calling what the markings looks like than what it actually IS. Just like how 'mask' just means 'distinct face markings' whatever the gene causing it.
@brigetbirbaew 6 күн бұрын
If it helps at all most everyone in the dog genetics community that Ive spoken to also scream about the fact that UC Davis decided to rename all of the A locus alleles 😅 The reason RALY was originally called As is actually because until the UC davis study it was believed RALY was the sole determining factor (after OG A alleles) for whether a dog had a saddle or not. Dogs love to be confusing haha! Awesome video! This will actually be of great use for beginners in genetics.
@littlehungrywarrior 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for As knowledge, that makes sense! Now they should re-name it!! And thank u for nice words too <3
@brigetbirbaew 6 күн бұрын
@littlehungrywarrior you're welcome!! And yeah, they really should rename it now haha It would save everyone the headache!
@Coco2014loco 6 күн бұрын
I am EXTREMELY CONFUSED how is firepaw THE MAIN CHARACTER WHO BECOMES A WARRIOR IN BOOK 1 OR 2 an apprentice!!!! Edit 1:IS IT CUZ I READ THE BOOKSSSSS😢😮😢😢😭😭😭
@benfunch 6 күн бұрын
LETS GOOOOOOO
@eclipsedmoon87 6 күн бұрын
Is ginger still rude and doesn't solid correctly on hairless cats? I'd think it would be consistent like that, but I'm designing a solid ginger hairless cat and i need to know if i need to agouti him
@littlehungrywarrior 6 күн бұрын
Yep, still consistent :3
@eclipsedmoon87 5 күн бұрын
@@littlehungrywarrior (to the ginger allele, not you) curse you ginger for being so rude and not soliding correctly
@eclipsedmoon87 5 күн бұрын
@@littlehungrywarrior good to know. Also, Google has been very unhelpful, do you know what a cream hairless cat looks like? I'm very unfamiliar with hairless cats and Google doesn't help, unless cream looks the same as regular skin color for hairless cats
@littlehungrywarrior 5 күн бұрын
@@eclipsedmoon87 Yeah I'm not surprised they look the same pink as white, cream is so light that it might as well just be the same pink tbh
@eclipsedmoon87 5 күн бұрын
@@littlehungrywarrior Tansyleg's gonna look weird af then, but that's the way he was generated. Unrelated, Hollyface, the final Alderclan torbie sister, is in your tumblr inbox
@imnoorrs5095 6 күн бұрын
I know it has NOTHING to do with the video, but your fursona pacing around with a bowl of soup and your friend cracking out an ancient Egyptian Punt analogy for your situation is gold
@littlehungrywarrior 6 күн бұрын
THANKS it was even funnier irl im glad i got the humor across. me having a full-on several hour meltdown and my friend's response is to casually bring up punt. funfact that makes it even better: she will bring up punt over most things. this happens at least once a month. imagine ur trying to eat ur soup but dog genetics are Killing You and your friend brings out the ol' Punt Analogy without batting an eye
@seervae9294 6 күн бұрын
When you got to the brindles and the sad music came on, I laughed so hard I fell of my bed because it's so relatable!! It honestly took a whole month to just see what the fudge was happening since I wasn't even remotely interested in dogs until then and I didn't even know that was a thing. I started researching dog genetics right about you finished your cat genetics and at that time I wasn't very versed in how color genetics worked as a whole so I never questioned why wolf gray was the only allele in the A locus that has banded hairs but thinking of it now, I completely understand why you were going bananas for it. I tried to do my own research and read cool articles full of words but nope, no information absorbed :) It still kinda freaks me out what 30,000 years of selective breeding can do in terms of weird colors... and I know this gets even worse :D