RESPECT TO JEFF VAN GUNDY FOR KEEPING IT 💯💯💯

You guys need to read between the lines, the only super team that has actively harmed the entertainment value of the NBA was KD going to the Warriors, and that’s because of the salary cap randomly spiking and the Warriors being able to afford KD because they had Steph Curry on such a cheap contract due to his ankle issues. It’ll never happen that way again, an MVP joining a 73 win team. But I loved watching basketball when the big three in Boston or Miami were formed. They had star power, but obvious weaknesses in terms of age or a lack of depth around them. The Warriors in 2017 will never happen again, the stars literally aligned perfectly. So I agree with Kenny’s point, let the players go wherever they want because it’ll never water the league down as much as these guys think. I know they filmed this when the Miami big three was around, but the NBA had competitive balance back then so I don’t see what the issue was.

Fun to go back to this conversation now after rhe super team concept no longer works and is somewhat dead in the NBA.

Shaq cant complain everytime he jumped ship he got the best guard, penny kobe wade lebron

As much as I loved Durant on OKC and OKC in general, the foul committed at 1.00 by Westbrook is the ultimate example as to why OKC didn't win: Westbrook. Man was a beast but his plays were everything but smart.

Like this take, but d-dive MJ/Knicks 92 + 93 playoffs if ya serious bout exposing rigged rings! Hope ur not just another MJ dik sucka that hates LBJ? In fact, do ALL of MJs ring runs (91 excluded) and you'll find 10X worse footage than this. Realizing the champion was predetermined long b4 the season started!!

Steve Kerr looking and learning though…

I'm watching this 11 years later and amazingly, seeing the exact same thing Game 4 Wolves vs Mavs. They let them play pretty evenly in the 1st, Ant went to the line 8 times from fouls on drives, but then... Ant goes to line 0 times rest of the game. Luka gets 2 foul calls on 3s at the end of the 4th - one was a clear offensive foul on Luka, the other should have been a no call as Ant didn't even touch him. Speaking of Ant not touching Luka and getting a call, Kyrie Irving then fouled Naz Reid on the arm on the other end but no call. Ant and Gobert had 5 fouls each, and they fouled KAT out with 2 minutes left after he just hit three 3s in a row. All 3 of those guys are the Wolves best players, just like KD getting 5 fouls with a few minutes left in the 4th of Game 3 Nothing ever changes, history is just a circle. The NBA is more like the WWE with pre-picked winners and losers than it is an actual, fair, competitive sport *Edit: that's not even bringing up Game 2, where Jaden McDaniels got fouled on the arm by Kyrie only for the Mavs to end up with the ball. What could have potentially put the Wolves up by 4 ended in Luka hitting a 3 to take a 1-point lead. BS

The most rigged finals from game 2 on you'll see. This was complete bs and I knew it in real time

Kenny's defensive coz he was in Hakeem's backpack the whole time. Don't trip Kenny, you joining the Rockets back then didn't make them a superteam.

Commissioner of nba Adam silver nowadays must think of the new players contract to pay a small percentage fee back into this players from 80's 90's and early 20's like a credit because without those and especially without Michael Jefrey Jordan nba would be watched only in states in lets say around 15 states maybe 20, max. Couple of days ago Anthony Edward's dunk upon Josh Collins and the dude collapse like a piece of shit, embracing the dunk like a Negro gay but not like a man without screaming mama mama I want my mama.

It’s really just spells a little envy for players who have more control of their careers than in the past.

Kenny Was Spittin, just because these franchise players are in denial or oblivious doesn’t mean Kenny was any less right. The not good for the league argument is convoluted because owners are for business and players value their own self-interest at the end of the day, rightfully so.

I can’t believe I watched this for this long you delirious

Kenny cooked them, it’s funny no one brought up how terrible Cavs front office was at building a good team for Bron back then

Old heads hate to admit it, but Kenny has a point, it's not on the superstars if their organization is incompetent and fails to build a good team around their superstar. The Cavs had a young LeBron for 7 years and did not get him any help, while the Thunder built a really good roster around KD. Which is why disgruntled superstars leave.

LeBron is like the worst thing that ever happened to the NBA I don't see how anybody likes him he is a crybaby b**** between the flopping the traveling the double dribbling that can't shoot can't even do a post game cuz he's not that skilled the only basketball player that's IQ is the lowest in basketball history that ever played just the worst game to ever watch I don't put them in the top 50 there's no way he should even be close to the go conversation

Please shut Kenny up

Usually the loudest dog is the most scared Kenny was backed up into a wall because he lost every single debate here. He just needs to shut up when he doesn’t have a clear perspective in a conversation

Kenny should just be the waterboy like he always was. Brought nothing to the conversation here

"There's only about 10 guys in the league who make a difference" Steve Kerr sums up the NBA in one quote

Crazy watching this in 2024 where teams like the Nuggets and Bucks have won championships in the past few years. The league is in such an amazing place where even small market teams have superstars, and it's the most competitive the NBA has been possibly ever, but at least in a very long time. Even though you still have some toxic superstars out there that try to make super teams and ruin the parity, they're getting older, and ultimately, the league is so stacked with talent right now that it doesn't even matter. The Nuggets for example, they made some key trades like Aaron Gordon, but at the end of the day, they just built an amazing basketball team. All these super teams that have failed, just trying to stack superstar on superstar not taking into account team chemistry and how well they work together... it really is a beautiful thing what we have in the NBA today and it's changed so much since this time.

Kerr and Smith are right other guys just thinking from their ambition "player" perspective

I remember watching this series thinking "The Heat can do whatever they want, they know the refs will have their back".

This is proven in just the first 2:30 minutes of the video. Outrageous.

Role player kenny always gonna be just that

Nothing is free in this world. I wonder what Lebum did to get away with this? 😂😂😂

The commissioner showed his balls by removing Draymond from game 5 of 2016 finals. That's when everyone knew it was a lock that Bron was going to beat Golden State. 1988 refs favored Lakers over Pistons on a fake Laimbeer foul. 2002 refs helped lakers over kings. NBA is shady.

this show was was way ahead of its time

Lebron is the goat

Kenny dont know he a role player stop it

What LeBron did was revolutionary and brilliant. It showed that players can actually use their intelligence in order to take control of their own destiny. Being able to control your own destiny is the greatest thing that someone can do for themselves in life.

the issue isnt free agency like kenny is hell bent on its about superstars colluding and destroying competition

I don’t think it was fixed but this was the peak of special treatment for “super stars” and Joey Crawford has always been sus let’s be honest lol, it hurt watching this series back then and hurts even more now 🤭😰😂 but all in all the refs did help Miami out 💯

I agree with Webber and Reggie the stars of today don't wanna battle each other and be loyal to a city. I don't like the if I can't beat em join em.

Kobe demanded a trade. A trade was even completed but blocked after. Shaq didnt win with the team that drafted him, he won with 2 teams he was traded to. If GMs trade guys who demand out and build superteams its fine but if someone completes their contract and chooses their destination thats way better than demanding out etc.

I got a question so lebron James for example if he never left Cleveland and stayed in Cleveland his entire career and never won that would’ve been better for his career ?

that whole mindset is gone every superstar nowadays wants to play with other superstars that competitiveness is gone

Kenny talking like he was a 1 or 2 on his team

2 mins in and Kenny Smith is already annoying as hell. I don’t understand why he’s even on in this show. He was a less than mediocre player 30 years ago

He’s a winner

Kenny is a nobody with a lot of opinions

Kenny sounds like an idiot.

Even Van Gundy and Breen were calling out the b.s

now it makes sense why lebron always in the finals wherever teams he comes. but fans are not blind, we saw the special treatment to lebron since he went to miami. its 2023 now but still the NBA cyndicate proved this. there are higher people than adam silver they are white old people and chose lebron to be the king of basketball becuz they cant manipulate jordan and kobe.

This is indisputable evidence and they had to do this to beat a team led by a 23 year old

The reason I have asked the league to retire refs on their 35 birth date is because they cannot move and understand the game beginning at that and easyly compromised by criminals.

we are haters because we point out what's obvious, lmao Lebrun idolizers

Thank you for showing the truth, louder!