You are correct. And I do have a pocket watch to complete and two in the mail. That’s three frisbees

Hey, thanks. Every time I do a ladies watch I’m very successful. I think I’ll never do this again as I’m not sure if the success outweigh the swearing.

It is the hunt that counts. I remember last time I had to replace a crystal on a Pocket Watch. I got out my millions as crystals and I eyeball them and for some reason I picked the exact right size. Couldn’t believe it I figured I’d be at it for hours.

I actually have no info on the lath.

Thanks, Chris. This is a real adventure.

No, the fork holding the stud was not bent at all and you’re right it’s the position of the stud that’s causing the coning. I was however, able to carefully adjust the hairspray to bend it down and take the cone away. I think all the work I did on the other hair spring trained me well for this. It seems to be a genuine part, but as you say likely made in China and likely not that genuine. It’s running exceptionally well, however.

@@JDRichard It isn’t genuine, it’s made of what the manufacturer deems “metal” without elaborating and it should be glucydur (beryllium-copper alloy), if you compare the colour it’s obvious. Glucydur is gold coloured and used for high grade watches. These aftermarket balances will run strongly and keep ok time, but not within spec for that movement. They devalue the watch and an Incabloc staff in a KIF setting can negate the shock protection. It’ll keep running strongly this balance and it’s far cheaper than the real OEM part, and that might be enough for the owner of the watch, but I do think you should ask them if they want a cheap aftermarket balance or to pay extra for a NOS original one. As long as they’re not worried about resale value, impaired shock protection and are happy with adequate but not top notch timekeeping, then the existing replacement balance will be fine. I’ve offered this choice many times. Some people would settle for nothing less than the original part, others are happy to save money and have a watch running strongly and accurate enough by most people’s standards.

Thank you very much for the kudos on this and I’m gonna do a quick chat video today on this adventure. In the end the watch is working extremely well and hopefully will continue to work for the customer for a long long time. I do warrant my work so there’s no issue with this watch for some reason stops. They just sent it back and they just pay for the shipping

They’re quite easy to find for this movement, but this one is a cheap Chinese generic part and they are even more plentiful.

@@mercuriall2810 who is to say that the ETA group didn’t contract the same Chinese company to make their balances back in the day

@@JDRichard China couldn’t produce these back then. The original is a glucydur balance and was state of the art. China can produce both excellent and lesser quality watch parts these days, but this balance is made of the wrong metal, with inferior properties. It’s something that collectors of these watches are acutely aware of, given the different colour of glucydur, they can see an aftermarket balance at a glance. The other issue is using an incabloc staff in a KIF setting, they have different geometry at the cone and shoulders because they work differently. I really think the customer should decide which balance they want, some will choose the aftermarket cheaper part, some would insist on OEM parts.

@@mercuriall2810 this watch was provided me by a third-party with the hopes that I could get it running again, and not for any collector or resale. It was a friend of a friend who tried to get it fixed in Edmonton, Canada, and no one would touch it. I think the fact that it’s working will satisfy this customer and I will not charge for this repair. I know if I asked the question about trying to get an original OEM part for this tutor watch, they won’t care.

@@JDRichard ETA didn’t and don’t use these glucydur balances in all movements, either. Only the higher grade, more expensive versions of each movement have this balance wheel. It’s special. If you look at the basic, elabore, top and chronometer grades of a modern eta movement, you only get the glucydur balance in the higher grades. Similarly, the lower grades tend to use incabloc, and the higher grades use KIF. They’re mechanically different, so an Inca staff won’t work correctly in a KIF setting if a shock occurs.

Perhaps. However, not many jewels in this movement

Excellent suggestion on rep pivoting the older staff this should be possible

@@JDRichard It’s definitely possible and if you snap a drill bit off, turning a new staff remains as an alternative. I find some antique Omega staffs are unusually soft compared to most staffs of that era. This often evidenced by a really big bend in a pivot, a bend so severe that it would’ve snapped the pivot off if the staff was fully hardened. If this staff is one of these softer ones, they’re comparatively easy to drill for repivoting. Whilst I normally consider shimming balance cocks and other such means of adjusting balance endshake a last resort, on lower grade work like this it’s a more acceptable way of saving time whilst still getting a good end result. There’s a trick to fine tuning the staff endshake after repivoting that entails leaving the staff slightly tight once mounted and setting the end shake as you screw down the balance cock. If you don’t know this technique, let me know and I’ll shoot you an email to explain it. It needs a couple of images so I can’t explain it here.

@mercuriall2810 You got me curious.!!

@@mercuriall2810 yeah I think I’m gonna re-pivot all the new pocket watches that I have to repair in the future as opposed to making Brand new balance staff

@@JDRichard I’ll shoot you an email later today explaining it.

Yes, this is a 7 jewel watch movement. There is a hole jewel and capstone at each end of the balance staff, which is 4 jewels. There is the roller jewel in the roller table on the balance staff, bringing us to 5 jewels in total. Finally there are two pallet jewels in the pallet fork, that lock and unlock the escape wheel and help to provide impulse to the balance wheel, bringing us to a total of 7 jewels in the watch.

No problem and thanks for the comment

Perhaps it was

Thank you very much for this definitive comment on this particular wristwatch. It is a thing of beauty.

Your welcome American cousin 🇬🇧🇺🇸

@redbike6340 which one of us is American?

I don’t think it’s normal, but if you’re ultimately able to set the date, I don’t think it should be a problem. Plus once the date is set on this watch because it’s solar powered this thing should run forever.

Hi Richard, thanks for your reply. You mean, yours will turn right away the date when you turn crown?

@@RichSera2-qm5rl Yes

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It does

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That’s pretty funny, my friend. I probably turned it in the wrong direction now it’s even slower.

That is funny.

Thanks, and now I know way too much. I need to spend my time reading about clocks and watches rather than fixing them, this would be a lot less stressful.

@@JDRichard You can never know too much, as long as the subject interests you, anyway. The evolution of accurate clocks and watches over time, the pursuit and development of more and more accurate timekeepers etc is a subject that I find fascinating. As much as I love it, watchmaking can be stressful at times, especially when you’re working on antiques or unique pieces for which no spare parts exist. It can feel like walking a tightrope with no safety net at times. Fortunately the one time I made a truely awful careless blunder when working on an antique pocket watch, I was incredibly lucky, and actually had a suitable replacement part to dig my way out that hole. I still cringe when I think about that.

@mercuriall2810 one slip of the screwdriver will ruin your day

@@JDRichard Indeed, one slip of the screwdriver can ruin your day. My awful blunder mentioned above was more of a brain-fart or careless error, leading to a completely ruined part. If I didn’t have a suitable replacement, it would’ve been the end of that job or a lengthy and possibly unsuccessful search for a part. I still question how I made such an egregiously dumb and careless mistake, when I strive to be so careful. It just proves how a moment’s inattention can have awful consequences.

I did order the balance wheel with the hairspring. As as I knew, this was a matching issue as you have suggested

So I purchased a digital microscope camera to allow me to get these really nice close-ups as a service pocket watches and watches. All I need to do is spend more time on production and maybe less time on chatting away. I’d like to know your opinion on this as I’ve had some people say, I wish you just shut up and service watch.

@@JDRichard I think adding digital microscope footage will be a great plus and will let you demonstrate techniques you’d otherwise have to do off camera. Definitely a big plus for the channel in my opinion. There are also some important watchmaking techniques that aren’t shown anywhere on KZfaq that might offer fantastic opportunities for you to create very useful content. Escapement matching is one example. I like your long form videos where you talk through them. I can understand that a some people won’t take the time to watch them, though. People might find the channels with more post production, and less talk more entertaining, but your videos are more real and more educational. For those actually interested in learning this stuff, I think the way you make these videos is best. If you’re seeking subscribers, then more polished production work, voiceover commentary post editing etc like many well known watchmaking channels do would probably attract more viewers. It might also lose some viewers who come here because your content is REAL and of high educational value. I guess you need to think about who is your prime target audience? Do you want more subscribers, who just enjoy watching watchmaking, or is the channel about teaching and sharing watchmaking knowledge? There is no wrong answer, but I think think you need to make this decision based upon who your target audience is, and whether the chosen target audience is to be prioritised over attracting subscribers. I’m happy to explore this further with you if it would help, either here or by email. Speaking of subscribers, I know you’re really keen to get over the 10k mark. Ive been thinking about it and have an idea that might help. I still have to work out a few details on a viable way to do it. If I find a workable solution, I’ll shoot you an email in the next week or so explaining my idea.

@@JDRichard i love your chatting away, you should do you in my opinion. ive learned more from you than anyone but i cant wait to see the new camera views soon. thanks to you i fix more watches than i break.

@@hellothere312 hey thanks for your opinion. I’ll continue being me.

Thank you very much for this comment. I do like to just chat while I’m disassembling a watch and make it a kind of stream of consciousness.

@@JDRichard I know you mentioned in a previous video something about the white work mats that you use on your bench. Where do you get those?

@@darinb6818 dollar store

It is kind of odd that they provided this brass screw that allows you to adjust a quartz watch, but no real instructions on how to do it

New micro camerq

The watch companies did

They seem to be very well engineered watch

Are they difficult?

Stay warm. I have done many wrist watches over the years. I like to repair and not simply clean and replace parts

Hey thanks.

@@JDRichard Always welcome. These are a real workhorse movement. A service should have it running really well again. If you aren’t familiar with how to manipulate the diashock and diafix shock settings, check out the two videos by Alex Hamilton on his Watch Repair Tutorials channel on them. They have a reputation for being very tricky. If you try to manipulate them just like an incabloc spring, you’re in for a serious headache. If you follow the methods Alex demonstrates, you’ll be fine.

@@mercuriall2810 I have done many of these settings over the years, but thanks

Thanks for the big tips. Found a disassemble and assembly video that will help.

Ok. Was not sure