Even when I first listened to it 30 years ago, the drums sounded off. I could never put my finger on what was off about them but as I got older, I just assumed that they were completely programmed with maybe some overdubs to flesh them out. Also, the bass on GT is fucking dogshit garbage. I don't know if a full re-master would work though

Anyone got the Further Away version with all the "trills in the verses"?

What did he say? Something like Camma said God don't exist do I don't believe in God but I make myself a God? And they keep hinting toward Manifesto which I believe is referring to Karl Marx and his book the communist manifesto?

This is EXACTLY what Albini always used to say about. Producers at that time wanted sonic-ly more controllable samples and would force bands into it. Even the guy at a local rinky dink studio tried to force my friends into using a dum machine on their cassette demo in '94, lol. Pure laziness.

80’s was an awful time? I bet the 80’s seem like paradise compared to now. What an awful time we have now.

Same

James and Sean corralled Richey's words into the songs they did. Never forget how important Sean was in that

They don't jam because Nicky sucks/sucked at bass. If he doesn't know the notes beforehand, he's fucked.

Hungover Nicky

This is interesting. As a drummer I had always assumed it was Sean playing, but when he said it I can totally hear it. And I wasn't sure who Steve Brown was without looking him up. Turns out he produced Wham!'s first album (as well as The Cult, Freddie Mercury, Alison Moyet) so I guess he was going for an approach that was probably more radio-friendly. GT certainly sounds a lot more polished than the New Art Riot EP. That said, any good producer can get any type of sound with a real drum kit. And a lot of pop producers mix drum machines and real kits to great effect, like Beat It, or even on The Everlasting. Would a real drum kit have meant more sales or less sales? I guess we'll never know! But I can understand Sean's frustration.

he’s so cute

Did that music ever turn into an actual song/b-side?

I snuck out of a dead end job in greenwich village when I heard on the foreverdelayed board there would be a midday screening it a few blocks away from where i worked. Best decision I ever made. The doc was fucking amazing. A Let It Be for Manics freaks that have never seen their creative process explored in such detail. I hope it comes out at some point.

Guitar genius ❤️

Never ceases to amaze me how a video camera captures moments we would lose otherwise immediately.

Love that… and I bet James sat there til he remembered that solo 😂

Bradfield guitar♥️

What's even crazier is that for the U.S. release the record company reworked several of the album's songs with a session drummer.

jdb looks like he stepped into a time machine to meet a young David Gilmore!

I have taken 'insidious peripheral crap' as my new text notification sound, thank you James for enlivening my texting experience! 😁

The best opening track among all the manics albums

Nicky looks lovely and Sean's drumming is immense.

Nick: Just play it gently like that. JDB NAHHHHH

Love that James was suggesting that they jam tracks from The Holy Bibly, I really wished they played more from that album live

We're nearly as far from this as it was from 1985

Go Buzz Baby Go

Best song on the record. In my opinion anyway.

I'd love to see a producer today tell Sean he had to programme the drums for their next album.

Absolute effortless when hitting those high notes , no fx or studio trickery, pure talent

Could watch them all day just sit around working on songs and discussing certain parts , gives you a true insight to their craft

Cmon Nick! You know you wanna play Yes haha

When they turn into the Manic Street Preachers, Sean is still going to look like a 12 year old.

Nick is not a natural musician but it doesn't stop him from being creative af.

Sean Moore is a quiet fella ! Or at least he is in interviews

You can see the genuine delight on Nicky's face. Like a kid meeting his heroes. I love the Manics and Rush. Rush were never cool but Nicky never cared about that. He judged them on their music.

it's the best song

underrated

Cum on feel the noize

I’m just thinking if the Manics can add real drums to GT because it’s all recorded separately.

how is Nicky so shit on Bass?

"what's he fuckin' doin" :) love 'em.

Only found this out a couple of months ago - That must've been such a pain to do, as Sean says' in a different interview, he thinks it was because Steve Brown simply didn't know how to record real drums.

After listening to some US version tracks, live/real drums would have transformed the album. Cutting it down to say 10 songs too would have made it sell considerably more...much more. Not 16 million but certainly would have hit the million mark (but within the space of a year). Hindsight is a wonderful thing

As a fan I really hope they see their way to redoing the album someday. Same songs, just produced properly with real drums on every track. This was such a bad decision from the producer. Programmed drums don't necessarily sound bad and Sean did a great job with what he had to work with, but the sound samples themselves just weren't up to scratch.

"white america?" "fuck off!"

It would be cool if manics did a unplugged

He looks tired , but still manages a great performance

The programmed drums on "love's sweet exile" sound really good

I love the bit in the film where a fan says 'they say they are the best rock n roll band in the world but then you listen to Led Zeppelin and you think...maybe not'. Hahahaha Nicky Wire's favourite band? Rush. That says it all.

* Researching velocity curves.