P-01 is king!!

what do you guys think about unlined parkerized barrels in general? are they really as bad as some say online and require too much maintenance?

Kimber KDS9C no rail for ~1k for the win.

Full Size is the way

I think BCA uppers are pretty good. Most of the issues that I have heard from people usually involve the the bolt or BCG in general. If you have some good quality BCGs around, Id say go for it. Throw a Sons of Liberty, Spikes, Aero, any decent BCG in there and I think its a win. The BCG is the heart of the gun. I got a .300 blackout upper, threw in a Sons BCG, and it works great. The barrel isnt going to last as long as a DD or Bravo Company, but hey, you can always swap the barrel

Another Great video guys, very informative. Enjoy watching your reviews...

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I own both a Shadow 2 and a P10C, both without the optic ready slides. I purchased them prior to the optic ready models being available. I would not purchase any of these two pistols. If CZ wanted to they could come out with an optics ready model, but they chose not to cater to their loyal fans. When looking for a polymer DA/SA pistol I went with the Grand Power MK23 K-100 optics ready pistol. It’s an exceptionally accurate and reliable pistol that is well built. The rotating barrel also helps mitigate the felt recoil. The only thing that I don’t like is the plastic shoe on the trigger. There are other companies than CZ that are actually listening to their customer base so why should I reward CZ for their engineering laziness.

When considering that they are at the same price after the upgrades to the P01, the price of the Shadow 2 Compact seems like a good price.

thanks for being real human beings in a human made video!

I LOVE my CZ SC2!

Cz shadow 2 compact for me with the kimber you had to change the grips out and that was your big selling point for it and the original grips you didn’t like so it’s up graded stock out the box Cz wins cheaper faster and looks better and so many options for mag capacity

My P-01 Omega has a 2ish to 2.5 pound pull with the CGW Ultra Lite Kit as well as well with the CGW reduced power trigger return spring for 7$. May want to look into that to drop it to 2.5 👍

Thanks gentlemen. I'll stick with my Cajunized PCR. I also have a 75B with CGW package. I was going to do the same for my 97D, but it so smooth already it is not really needed.

When you guys shoot you look like gun turrets. Domo arigato Mr roboto 😊.

Dude…. Please be a bit more aware of your muzzle placement.. yes I know you’re confident that the weapon is empty… but flagging your partner… tsk tsk tsk.

Think ultimately it comes down to "do you have a p01? If yes, upgrade it with modifications. If no, buy the shadow compact". Least thats my 2 cents. I edc a p01, and i dont really see a need or want for the s2c

Awesome review. You guys work well together. It's nice to see a good comparison on the nuances of the guns beyond just the paper specs.

I have 1k rounds in mine, zero issues.

love the content guys about to buy my first pistol for my 21st birthday I've binged a lot of your videos and the information is top notch keep it up

It is not true that CZ Shadow 2 Compact doesn’t have de-cocking capabilities, it doesn’t have de-cocking lever. It was removed simply because it’s not needed. It is quite alarming how many (almost every single one!) reviewer on KZfaq keep criticize this fine pistol, a real masterpiece, which most of the owners agree that it is the best gun ever made. I don’t expect everyone to think as an engineer like I do, but you have to ask yourself why a reputable company with 1,800 employees made that decision to take that lever out. I made a short video to explain how to safely carry this gun: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mN2faKiHuc2ceIE.htmlsi=zJNQGBP04l848x_C I have to tell you that P01 is NOT safe to dry shoot, dislike Shadow 2 which is. Study internal components, try to understand the design intention before make any conclusions. To try to modify an obsolete gun instead to buy the new improved model is just stupid attempt. Sorry for being straight forward, but I don’t know how else I could say it.

You're upper and lower are not well matched. Your brass ejection is pretty far forward, which means your bolt velocity is too high. This might be called over-gassed. Equivalently, this could be considered under-buffered and/or over-sprung. I don't know what the buffer is in your lower, but if it's a carbine 3.5 oz buffer, you might try an H or H2 buffer, which will slow the bolt velocity and allow the brass time to get out of the ejection port before closing on it and stovepiping. I know you guys were just trying to test the upper, but since the recoil system is in the lower, the upper and lower are not completely independent. Maybe you guys already know this, but i thought folks watching this with little AR experience might benefit.

I'm 76 and my eyes do not like 3 dot white sights, I prefer blacked out rear and fiber front. Fiber front and rear are OK but need to be a contrast like green rear and red front. I love shooting with a dot, but my EDC does not have an optic, personal preference. I would like the S2 to have a decocker, bit I would choose the CZ over the Kimber. For me, that's a no brainer. A few months back I bought a CZ 75 and choose it over the sp01.

Just bought mine out in Commiefornia for $840. Must be nice living in a free country.

Credit should be given to HS Produkt who are the makers of the Echelon. Springfield's relationship with HS has also given them the Hellion (VHS), Hellcat (H11) and XD (HS2000).

La shadow 2 es la mejor del planeta

Did you guys think there was a big difference in ergonomics between the 43 and micro ? The 43 gives me major slide bite

. I would say that You can throw extended safeties, and a CGW increased Pressure Dentent spring, on the CZ and the secure safety problem is ended. I carry it Cocked & Locked No Problems, and I'm used to carrying 1911's for years.... The CZ is just so much lighter, and shoots so much better than anything in its class... I cal it a competition carry gun. The Bottom line is if you shoot better with the CZ, then that's what you should carry... It could mean the difference between coming home or not.... Just Sayin'

BCA is badass!

so is BCA the absolute cheapest option you can go for? is there nothing else in the that price range give or take 50 bucks? PSA is usually at least 150 bucks more for something comparable. I dont know of any other brands in the $200-300 range do you?

ive only seen issues with the side charging handles, ive never heard really any issues with rear charging handles.

Damn this is a hard choice. When I added a bigger safety to th CZ it cured the deficient safety it comes with. That KDC is freeking AMAZING, I shoot them the same. Just too darn hard to choose!!

Right now I have to go with the P01. I haven’t cracked the 1000 rd mark yet but had zero malfunctions. Have around the same rd count with my P07 but have had feeding issues (just a few). I believe it to be the ammo, but it had to be sure. I like the fact that the P01 is NATO certified. That was a huge selling point to me, that thing is a tank.

Nice! I've been looking for a good comparison video on these since I do have the CZ, but found that the Kimber was spec'd so similarly. It looks great!

You can buy an extend safety for the Shadow 2 Compact if it was a great concern

The manual tells use how to safely carry the Shadow 2 Compact. I drop my hammer to half cocked with the opposite hand and carry with the the safety off. Getting use to the safety is about training.

I own a CZ Shadow 2 compact. The trigger on it is way too light for carrying, and Cajun Gun works will tell you the same! The safety is way too mushy and much too easy to knock off safe. It needs extended safeties like the Shadow 2 full size. Anything that will fit the Shadow 2 full size internally will fit the compact. About the only thing that won't fit are the grips... If it had about a 4 to 5 lb trigger in single action it would be much better. Nobody will say they have springs to fix the mushiness of the safety. You can buy the extended safety levers that are the same ones that the Shadow 2 full size use if you can find them... CZ WILL TELL YOU THE GUN WAS BUILT TO FIT IN THE IPSC BOX. But they also want to sell them for concealed carry.

2 of each! Easy answer.

I love my bear creek arsenal but my diamondback is where it’s at. 5.56 shoots so flat

I have decocked the CZ thousands of times using two fingers without any issues. A decocker is not needed.

I have both. Have not added an optics to the CZ but do have a Holosun on the Kimber. I bought a kit from Kimber that has the optics plate and co-witness sights! How cool is that! A thing to take in consideration is that the Kimber is noticeably to me lighter to carry. Neither gun has failed after hundreds of rounds.. The video mentioned the CZ had less recoil but might be because the Kimber is lighter? Both are excellent guns!! FYI, I have a number of KImbers and a CZ Tactical Sport.

I have used thier rear charging uppers for years and have shot thousands of rounds without any problems. I bought my first side charging upper (6.5 Grendel) and it failed within 60 rounds. I am not going to invest my time into finding the failure point. I will stick to thier rear charging uppers only for now.

Night sights are a marketing scheme for the public. You need some ambient light or self provided light source to identify your target/attacker which will also allow you to see your sites. What the military or gov’t calls casualties or friendly fire, the civilian world calls gross negligence and victim. We are not in combat zones and without PID and proper cause you will be sued and incarcerated.

Both are awesome options, currently carry the KDS9C and absolutely love it.

The shadow build and finish for the cz shadow 2...

Answer this for me. I see a cheaper version of the kds9c rail pistol but it is a 10 rounder. If i get the 18 round magazine i should be good right. Its like 1325. The barrel length is 4 inches tho. I live in GA so capacity is not an issue here.

So basically put on some Lok palm grips CZ and problem solved. lol 😂

2 good guns. Great review!

I prefer the kimber but 5he price is ridiculous,and the grip is pretty thick.

CZ shadow 2 compact is the way to go. For the $500 difference, you can buy a Holosun 507comp and two extra mecgar magazines.