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@GhaithAlshaary
@GhaithAlshaary 6 сағат бұрын
Great video Got a car from auction eqc 21/22 Mercedes Everything seems to be connected as u explained Only found the negative v12. Is there another replace I need to look ? Coz I believe the ev system is shutted down
@HelmutTschemernjak
@HelmutTschemernjak 7 сағат бұрын
What a great training/discussion, thank you so much for it. Regards from Hannover. PS: for my eVito Mercedes tells me that if I open the interlock once, I cannot get it back to work again, they must use a special programmer to enable the HV again. Has anybody experience with the eVito 112 HV system and is willing to discuss it with me.
@user-wm2xc2zv3z
@user-wm2xc2zv3z 8 сағат бұрын
Hi mate i think my car Mercedes eqc400 Can i reset my self or do i need q scanner ? No power at all Only interior lights
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 8 сағат бұрын
G'day :) That's a good question, because neither Daniel nor I have had the opportunity to work on such a car. No power at all / only interior light means obviously that 12V is on but high voltage system is not released from the BCU. As this is a modern a car and as I know Mercedes, I would suppose that you need the Mercedes tester to reset it. Is there any fault code? Or what has happened before hand? Cheers, Chris
@user-wm2xc2zv3z
@user-wm2xc2zv3z 8 сағат бұрын
@@InsideEVTraining hi mate Thank u for your kind respond, I just bought it like that And yeah no power and no ignition I have Launchx431 scanner nor sure if I can connect coz Ni ignition Even doors don't lock or unlock by key fob So not sure , the only thing we'd disconnected when I got it was the v12. Can I reset My self It's 2021 mercedss eqc model
@franciscoxaviergonzalezrom4648
@franciscoxaviergonzalezrom4648 11 сағат бұрын
Thank you!!!
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 8 сағат бұрын
Too easy :D
@richardlindsay9100
@richardlindsay9100 14 сағат бұрын
Cheers for the awesome presentation Daniel and Chris. 1st class as always!!
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 14 сағат бұрын
Thanks Mate :D
@mikemulrooney4824
@mikemulrooney4824 Ай бұрын
Good vid
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Ай бұрын
Thanks mate :)
@cipri91
@cipri91 2 ай бұрын
Cool. In this case do we have two HV batteries, right? In a real case scenario with this car, i would need to disconect 12V batteries and 2 service plug to shutdown both high voltage batteries, right?
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. :) What make you thought, that there are two HV batteries? In any series production vehicle you will only find a single HV battery. Two different batteries would make no sense as you need controlling and montitoring elements for both. But maybe, I have explained it too weird. :D
@abdelmajidbejjaji857
@abdelmajidbejjaji857 2 ай бұрын
Hi, where can I buy such EV Training system
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 2 ай бұрын
You can buy them from the company we are working for. ;) Please write to [email protected] and we take care of your request.
@hamzahammadi1277
@hamzahammadi1277 2 ай бұрын
I dare u if u will do for us video about iso spi
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 2 ай бұрын
Well, I will talk to Daniel! Let's see ... (:
@CHLiao
@CHLiao 3 ай бұрын
Hi, I like your video. Does the 48V ECU require to do some kind of tests like ISO16750 and ISO7637 in 12V battery?
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 3 ай бұрын
Yes, the 48V Electronic Control Unit (ECU) in vehicles would indeed require similar testing to what is applied to 12V systems, such as those specified in ISO 16750 and ISO 7637 standards. These standards are crucial for ensuring the reliability and durability of automotive electronics under various environmental and electrical stress conditions. ISO 16750 covers tests for electrical and electronic systems within road vehicles, specifying requirements for electrical loads, mechanical loads, climatic loads, chemical loads, and other environmental stresses. ISO 7637 focuses specifically on electrical disturbances from conduction and coupling within a vehicle's electrical system. It defines test methods for both 12V and 24V electrical systems, typically encompassing voltage spikes, transient conduction, and other electromagnetic disturbances that an ECU must withstand. When it comes to a 48V ECU, similar testing is necessary due to the analogous functional and environmental demands placed on these systems, even though they operate at a higher voltage level. The fundamental principles of ensuring component and system durability against environmental stresses, electrical disturbances, and operational reliability remain the same.
@kihelsifeddine7802
@kihelsifeddine7802 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Chris, stupid question ⁉️ why the resistance of the coil is too low I was expecting something higher!
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 3 ай бұрын
There is no stupid question. :) Can you give me the timestamp you are refering to? In general, the ohmic resistance of the coil, speaking of the resistance of the wire itself, should be as low as possible in order to avoid losses and thermal heat-up. The "resistance", which is "high" for a coil is the "inductive resistance".
@adrianoncars
@adrianoncars 4 ай бұрын
All ID. cars from Volkswagen are RWD and some of them can be AWD. There is no FWD ID.4. However, nice insight of the motor!
@ziadaboamera3724
@ziadaboamera3724 4 ай бұрын
When do you should oil for ID 4 electric motor?
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 4 ай бұрын
As far as we know this is a life-time filling.
@HelmutTschemernjak
@HelmutTschemernjak 5 ай бұрын
With the BMS is pretty much the same everywhere, even with a Solar battery systems. See my Enphase Batterie Inside: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7ygetin1tGnmYk.html
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@HelmutTschemernjak
@HelmutTschemernjak 5 ай бұрын
Ein sehr lehrreiches Video, die Diskussion spricht vieles an, einfach klasse. Danke
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 5 ай бұрын
Danke fürs Feedback! :)
@HelmutTschemernjak
@HelmutTschemernjak 5 ай бұрын
Your training videos are great, thank you for sharing.
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Helmut! Much appreciated!
@HelmutTschemernjak
@HelmutTschemernjak 5 ай бұрын
Great Video, thanks for explaining this details. In EV cars there is a PDU (power distribution unit) e.g. in the eVito. Do you know if this PDU is just distributing the HV voltage to the HV clients, or this there a current Fuse or electronic power measurement included in the PDU unit of Mercedes. Regards from Hannover Germany.
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 5 ай бұрын
Hello Helmut, greetings from Cologne! Your question is a bit difficult to answer, as this is really individual for all car manufactures. I have heard about the Mercedes PDU, but can't remember in detail. But maybe this is a bit of help: "Eaton’s high-voltage power distribution units (PDUs) and power distribution elements (PDEs) deliver power to all critical loads within the electric vehicle (EV) system -- including traction and auxiliary loads -- while protecting electrical and electronic components and vehicle occupants with reliable circuit protection solutions. These PDUs, also known as junction or fuse boxes, are ideal solutions for battery electric vehicle (BEV) applications."
@HelmutTschemernjak
@HelmutTschemernjak 5 ай бұрын
@@InsideEVTraining thanks for the input, I will look into it. I understand from Tesla EVs that they measure the power of the different HV clients (e.g. heat pump), in addition they have soft and hard fuses for this HV clients.
@maheshpadmanabh6564
@maheshpadmanabh6564 5 ай бұрын
Great explanation but can you tell where exactly you are measuring the voltage? Can you tell me the nodes?
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 5 ай бұрын
Thanks :) Do you mean on a real vehicle? Unfortunately, this cannot be said across the board, this is normally done in the real vehicle by the diagnostic tester. It will tell you any fault code related to the interlock, but these faults will be recognized through the internal voltage measurement of the vehicles intelligence / on board measurement systems. Also the different voltage values should be displayed by the tester, IF the car manufacturer allows them to be displayed.
@maheshpadmanabh6564
@maheshpadmanabh6564 5 ай бұрын
@@InsideEVTraining no I meant in this video. The meter shows different voltages like 1.5V, 2.5V … 7V etc. so where is that voltage being actually measured? Across which resistors?
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 5 ай бұрын
@@maheshpadmanabh6564 Over all resistors :) This is just a simple series circuit, where the volt meter is connected in parallel. So it is measuring the total resistance, which depends on the resistors are short-circuited or not.
@maheshpadmanabh6564
@maheshpadmanabh6564 5 ай бұрын
@@InsideEVTrainingif we are measuring across the points shown in the circuit then it should be always 12V. If it’s across only R1,R2,R3 and R4 then we should be seeing 6V instead of 1.5V. Is my understanding fundamentally flawed? Can you please help me out here :)
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 5 ай бұрын
​@@maheshpadmanabh6564 You're on the right track overall, but let me clarify something important. We're utilizing a "constant current source" (the box in the left corner), which means the current remains unchanged at a steady 10 mA. This leads us to the equation U = R x I, where I is the constant current. Now, focusing on resistors R1 to R4 (we'll set aside R7 for the moment as it serves a self-diagnostic purpose), these represent the circuit's TOTAL RESISTANCE. However, this resistance can vary due to different plugs or connectors in the system. Take R4 as an example: when the HV service disconnect is connected, R4 effectively becomes non-existent, offering zero resistance (though technically, the cable itself has some resistance, but let's overlook that for simplicity). Consider what happens to the total resistance when you calculate for two parallel resistors and one has ZERO resistance. It significantly impacts the overall resistance measured in the circuit. Hope this helps clarify things!
@shamanking5195
@shamanking5195 6 ай бұрын
If a motor was repaired meaning rewound, new bearings, dipped and baked but is pulling high amps when running , what could be the problem ??? what test can tell me what the problem is ???
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for your question! This is a tough one, but I will forwarded to an expert friend of us. Give us some time, to get the answer for you :)
@B0YAz
@B0YAz 6 ай бұрын
is it front axle for ID4??
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 6 ай бұрын
If I am not mistaken, this was the optional rear axle unit, if you are choosing all wheel drive. :)
@germanchannel8410
@germanchannel8410 7 ай бұрын
Great info thanks
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 7 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@abhishekupadhyay3690
@abhishekupadhyay3690 7 ай бұрын
Hi.. One question.. What if signal generator has not enough power to send current and which affect the voltage across connector and which feels like its open. How do we ensure signal gemerator has enough power.. Or How signal generator gets charge?
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 7 ай бұрын
If you have a loss of power, this will lead properly to critical interlock failure, which maybe will shut down the HV system. I can't say it for any case, but basically the BMS will power the interlock.
@user-pt7fb7jo3p
@user-pt7fb7jo3p 8 ай бұрын
Dear sir do have to change gear oil
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 7 ай бұрын
Based on VW - this is a life time filling. ;)
@user-dl9vi5ww6n
@user-dl9vi5ww6n 4 ай бұрын
@@InsideEVTraining Greetings! Can you provide a link to the information that the oil in the gearbox is filled for the entire life of the car? thanks in advance!
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 4 ай бұрын
@@user-dl9vi5ww6n sorry, we don't have a link as we spoken to VW directly, when we got the e-motor. Nevertheless, feel free to use google. I can imagine as well, that this will be written in the corresponding SSP, if VW is still creating them.
@user-dl9vi5ww6n
@user-dl9vi5ww6n 4 ай бұрын
@@InsideEVTraining Thank you very much for your answer, the problem is that I could not find any official information on this issue...
@luckysonaj3634
@luckysonaj3634 8 ай бұрын
please what inverter did you use and also is it lithium ion or lead acid you used as battery
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 8 ай бұрын
Hey :) In the video we use a training system where everything is simulated electrically. So we only describe the different types of inverters. As for the batteries, in most cases it's a lithium-ion version. AUDI uses them, for example.
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 8 ай бұрын
Hello friends, what is your experience wie interlocks and MSD? We hope that you are enjoying our new EV training video and looking forward to your feedback!
@ArmanAnsari-ii8te
@ArmanAnsari-ii8te 8 ай бұрын
I'm new to this channel and learning electric vehicle wire Harnessing and this video helped me a lot to improve my knowledge. Thanks for your efforts. Please continue to make such videos to enlighten us😅. Thanks
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 8 ай бұрын
Thanks @@ArmanAnsari-ii8te for your words! We will do our best! :)
@drankenkorps
@drankenkorps 8 ай бұрын
What are dimensions of the entire unit and kg?
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 7 ай бұрын
Do you mean the real unit inside the car or our training model?
@drankenkorps
@drankenkorps 7 ай бұрын
@@InsideEVTraining i was thinking the real unit inside every auto.. would love to get hands on cad files.
@ehabibrahim87
@ehabibrahim87 9 ай бұрын
I need your contact, cellphone and email please
@tinkukuty1232
@tinkukuty1232 10 ай бұрын
In this layout could you not short the pins on a connector, lets says using a safety clip or a needle, after unplugging it and trick the BMS into thinking that the HVIL is Okay?
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 7 ай бұрын
This is absolutely possible! You can do this easily on a Prius 3 with the inverter cover. Of course just theoretically ;)
@lyov888
@lyov888 11 ай бұрын
Hello, Recently after driving approx. 19.000 kms on Id.4 rear drive model (production of china: model id.4 crozz pro), i can hear knock from the gear panel when the car starts moving or when I push the “gas” pedal after slowing down on regenerative braking mode. I.e. whenever the car goes for clutch the knock sound can be heard from the gearbox/rotor. What problem is it like and how can it be solved. For your information: I have not changed the oil in gearbox after driving 19k kms. There has been some times that while driving in lower speeds (4-5 kmph) i have opened the door or woke up from the driver’s seat after which the car stops immediately and brings it to a park position (electronically). Thanks in advance.
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment! Unfortunately, this is hard to answer via YT, but we will speak to our VW experts and try to get an information for you!
@joshuawegrzyn5313
@joshuawegrzyn5313 7 ай бұрын
I have a 23 AWD Pro S that I took delivery of on July 2023. As November 2023 @ 8000 miles I also have started hearing this knock. It has been at the dealer for 11 days now and they are unable to figure out the cause. Its a real bummer. I really hope to get my expensive car back soon! Did you ever determine the cause of your knock?
@joshuawegrzyn5313
@joshuawegrzyn5313 7 ай бұрын
I have a 23 AWD Pro S that I took delivery of on July 2023. As November 2023 @ 8000 miles I also have started hearing this knock. It has been at the dealer for 11 days now and they are unable to figure out the cause. Its a real bummer. I really hope to get my expensive car back soon! Did you ever determine the cause of your knock?
@maxar3471
@maxar3471 Жыл бұрын
What can you do with an id 3 motor ? (0EH901098C) how to access brain box/ecu ?
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the question, but unfortunately we do not have such a model available right now. :)
@meganathangopal2499
@meganathangopal2499 Жыл бұрын
One of the best explanations related to EV in KZfaq. Thanks keep up the good work by teaching us. Addition to this can you give a brief about how model based development in EV works.
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much :) Could you please specify your request, what exactly you would like to know more about.
@chalachewrich
@chalachewrich Жыл бұрын
Thanks this gives an idea how the electric vehicle inner looks like. Can you also show us the simple rugular ways of servicing for an od4 Volkswagen (may be in 5000km or so)
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. If we will get some information on this, we are happy to share it with you!
@ulugr
@ulugr Жыл бұрын
Hello dear, do i need to change the gearbox oil?
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
Здравствуйте Улугбек Расулов, There is no need to change the oil. Just take care that the gearbox is sealed. If not, then of course the oil level needs to be checked and maybe refilled.
@ulugr
@ulugr Жыл бұрын
@@InsideEVTraining does this apply to all electric vehicles?
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
Well, you can never tell for 100%, but as the complexity is much less compared to a classical automatic transmission or DCT, I would say that every car manufacturer does not expect an oil change within a gearbox of an EV.
@ulugr
@ulugr Жыл бұрын
@@InsideEVTraining thank you very much bro.
@TonyMontana18725
@TonyMontana18725 Жыл бұрын
Hi there, I have a question about the Ladar / Laser radar. I took my audi to get my ADAS system calibrated everything was fine the only thing is the Ladar cant see the calibration board according to the technician. Would you have any advice for us please?
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
Hey Tony, Did AUDI told you, that your car is using a LADAR or a Laser Radar? There some differences between LIDAR, LADAR and Laser Radar based on their properties and the associated intended use. I would be very surprised if Audi used anything other than a LIDAR. Back to topic - where is the LIDAR placed in your car? Is it installed where the fog lights used to be? Did you go to a AUDI workshop or a free one?
@sagnimeseret6250
@sagnimeseret6250 Жыл бұрын
Great video but you need to work on sound quality. smh annoying
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
Yeah absolutely, we are aware of it. ;) Next time, we use our other microphones again, so it should be fine. Sorry for the inconvenience!
@etnetde
@etnetde Жыл бұрын
Great video, just one suggestion if you use a simple lab mic 🎤 you will have a much better voice recording enhancing the quality of your production a lot 👍🏼
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right, mate! :) Normally, we use our other mics, which are carried directly with the person. No idea, why I took this mic this time. ;)
@hristolalev4664
@hristolalev4664 Жыл бұрын
Great video with really useful information. Thank you! Do you also plan to have a deeper dive video, explaining for example Time Quanta, bit time segments, sampling point, maybe also error frames and etc.?
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. ;) We are basically open for everything, but we want to adress in first place what automotive technicians need to know. You are asking for more high level stuff, which is super interesting but more focused on a smaller community. Nevertheless, if more people are interested in that, we will have a look! Have a good one!
@smrubelmedia
@smrubelmedia Жыл бұрын
Your video is very beautiful. I like it a lot. I have been trying to talk to you for a long time. I am waiting for your response. Please give me a chance to talk to you💜📞
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
Hey ;) Sorry to hear! Where did you contact us? Your are welcome to write to us on LinkedIn! ;)
@smrubelmedia
@smrubelmedia Жыл бұрын
@@InsideEVTraining Thank you and you can check your LinkdIn message inbox.
@vugarmirzayev-yc6lg
@vugarmirzayev-yc6lg Жыл бұрын
Nice summary and cool lab! :) For your question if this star or delta motor. I think it is star because at line-to-line inductance measurement of motor we were getting the same or similar values which is the case in star connection. But i am also not sure if the star connection is so popular in asynchronous motor.
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your message Vugar! And you are absolutely correct, it is very hard to tell. Acutally, we have sent the question to VW. ;) If the coils are fine, you should always message the same values across the stator. The absolute values will just differ from star to delta, even if you are using the same coils due series (star) and series parallel connection (delta). So from our point of view, it is very hard to say, which connection is used.
@alisamehmohamed2020
@alisamehmohamed2020 Жыл бұрын
Hello, Thank you for this helpful information. I just have one confusing point 😅, I always thought the HVIL (High voltage Interlock) has 4 wires ( acting as bridge for each two wires) 2 for the 12 V/LV and the other 2 for the signa going the HV components through the BMS, then when we disconnect the HVIL the BMS will understand that there are missing signal then will disconnect the HV Contactors to shutdown the HV. So my question what's make the HV contactors open the missing of one of the resistance signal Or missing of 1 signal between HV component and the another (become open loop)?
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
Hello Ali, Apologies for the delayed response. I hope I have correctly understood your question. In the interlock system, there is no open loop. When the HV connectors are closed, the individual electrical resistors, which are connected in parallel to each individual connector, are bypassed. However, when a HV connector or the HV service plug is opened, the current of the interlock passes through the resistor, resulting in a different voltage drop. By analyzing this output voltage of the interlock, the BMS (Battery Management System) can determine that the HV circuit has been opened at a specific point. Upon detection of this, the flow of current to the HV relays is halted, causing the magnetic field to collapse and the HV relays to open.
@alisamehmohamed2020
@alisamehmohamed2020 Жыл бұрын
@Inside EV Training - with Daniel and Chris Thanks a lot 😊 now it's clear
@vijayakumarvelusamy9058
@vijayakumarvelusamy9058 Жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
Thanks Vijayakumar!
@rachidguadou6142
@rachidguadou6142 Жыл бұрын
Great job 🙌🏼❤️ support from Morocco 🇲🇦🙏🏼
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Rachid!
@davehudson5214
@davehudson5214 Жыл бұрын
🄿🅁🄾🄼🄾🅂🄼
@iRastgar1
@iRastgar1 Жыл бұрын
Haven't 48 volts been on trucks and heavy vehicles for several years already ?
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
Hello Imtiaz, depends on what you mean with several years. ;) The standard is 24V, around the year 2000 the truck industry has done some developing on 42V - but they didn't use it in the end. 48V respectively mild hybrid solutions are becoming more and more popular for trucks.
@target-mechanica
@target-mechanica Жыл бұрын
Very interesting information thanks a lot
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
To answer the question @2:11: this is clearly an asynchronous (induction) rotor, as evident due to the exposed aluminum conductor "squirrel cage". The use of a resolver (rather than encoder) also indicates asynchronous operation; either a resolver or an encoder can be used with either induction or PM motors, but for PM the higher angular precision of the encoder is usually preferred. VW's published information confirms that while the rear motor of MEB vehicles is PM, the front motor is induction.
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
Also perfectly right! :)
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
You say that this is an ID.4 unit, but it is entirely different from the ID.4 unit which Munro Live tore down - different rotor type (induction vs PM), different stator type (round wire vs rectangular "hairpin"), different transaxle layout (coaxial output vs. offset), different housing construction. I suspect that Munro tore down the rear drive unit, and that this is the very different front drive unit from the same platform.
@InsideEVTraining
@InsideEVTraining Жыл бұрын
Hey Brian, you are correct! The ID4 has an all wheel-drive in its latest version, where you have the known synchronous drive a the rear axle. For AWD and boosting VW added a asynchronous front wheel drive. This is what you see in the video. Sorry if I have expressed myself in a misleading way here. For more info look here: europe.autonews.com/automakers/vw-give-id4-all-wheel-drive-power-boost
@theeaxleguy3313
@theeaxleguy3313 Жыл бұрын
Yep, this is the front eAxle supplied by Magna, called the eDS-Low (which VW calls the EQ150). The rear gets a VW eAxle called the EQ310-1P, which you have seen in the Munro video.