10 Awkward Facts About Rutherford (1 to 5)

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Lloyd Evans

Lloyd Evans

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Joseph Franklin Rutherford, the Watchtower movement's second leader, is believed by Jehovah's Witnesses to have been hand-picked by Jesus Christ in 1919 as one of the first members of his "faithful and discreet slave" (or one true religion on earth). In the first of two videos, I reveal awkward facts about the "Judge" that raise doubts over his prominent role in JW theology.
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@migmontest
@migmontest 5 жыл бұрын
Ok. We need a Netflix series dramatizing the life of Rutherford
@valeraBS13
@valeraBS13 5 жыл бұрын
Need a Netflix docu about this whole cult like they did with Scientology. But still they will say Satan tries to put dirt on their name...lol
@hannahterry8847
@hannahterry8847 5 жыл бұрын
@@valeraBS13 of course they will. But it will still help shrink the numbers of increasing and people being misled.
@rodywithers3536
@rodywithers3536 5 жыл бұрын
migmontest I thought there was a series on Rutherford and co: Mad Men. 😜
@AprilSnow3121
@AprilSnow3121 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing - Netfix should pick this whole story up - it is better than any fictional book a man could write - and the part about "the bones and hank of hair" sure made me think how far those words were from anything Jesus ever would have said !! It is a disgrace
@marjtyess4603
@marjtyess4603 5 жыл бұрын
Totally Agree!!!
@dawnross2514
@dawnross2514 5 жыл бұрын
Considering this information about Rutherford, it shouldn't really surprise anyone that this organisation has produced so much misery and dysfunction.
@shelleyfinch9697
@shelleyfinch9697 5 жыл бұрын
Lloyd you crack me up.... Laughing so much but seriously I am in shock at how I could have spent my whole life in this organisation and never knew anything about this and many other bits of dirty laundry including the bethel pillows
@dreafelker7267
@dreafelker7267 5 жыл бұрын
sf18 SMWAT Me too... The veil is lifted... we are no longer blind.. If you spoke of any of this you would be brought before the brothers.. thanks to information freedom.. Check out the old books in archives...it'll blow your mind.
@theresaakins2317
@theresaakins2317 5 жыл бұрын
@@dreafelker7267 tell me something you know about the old books, I'm curious. I had a few old ones, I wish I kept them. I used to have the Isaiah book.
@krazohills9008
@krazohills9008 4 жыл бұрын
Look up Writings of st Russell. You can find all his books online. Divine Plan of the Ages and Studies in the Scriptures.
@krazohills9008
@krazohills9008 4 жыл бұрын
CTRussell
@ms.anonymousinformer242
@ms.anonymousinformer242 3 жыл бұрын
@@theresaakins2317 I had one that had kingdom in the title, it was so old it was falling a part. I didnt protect it while in storage and something chewed on the sides so I think I tossed it in the garbage :-( .
@superman1972us
@superman1972us 5 жыл бұрын
Rutherford’s takeover of WT kind of reminds me of David Miscavige’s takeover of Scientology.
@jonthehermit8082
@jonthehermit8082 5 жыл бұрын
See Brigham young takeover of Mormonism as well. Mormons and Jws so different and so much the same.
@thenowchurch6419
@thenowchurch6419 5 жыл бұрын
superman1972us. .....and Brigham Young's takeover of the Latter Day Saints, the Mormon Church. A bunch of bullying brutes.
@theresaakins2317
@theresaakins2317 5 жыл бұрын
@@lauralarrabee7870 yep David Miscavaige of Scientology said power is assumed. And LRH said utterly destroy(so called enemies).
@katoosh1
@katoosh1 5 жыл бұрын
What a complete sham JW's are great people but so mislead. My Wife, Stepson, Brother and his Family are great people but mislead. My wife is actually at lunch with a bunch of JW's because it was her service group's turn to feed the speaker. I am so glad I was disfellowshipped and then started looking into the cult. Thanks Loyd looking forward to the next video.
@kristysokoloski9089
@kristysokoloski9089 5 жыл бұрын
So very true.
@idontnonuffin944
@idontnonuffin944 3 жыл бұрын
You’re still married to a witness and you are DF’d?
@katoosh1
@katoosh1 3 жыл бұрын
@@idontnonuffin944 Yes
@idontnonuffin944
@idontnonuffin944 3 жыл бұрын
@@katoosh1 and the elders haven’t told her to leave you?
@thefirstface4575
@thefirstface4575 3 жыл бұрын
@@idontnonuffin944 they can't. They just genuinely believe that anyone who doesn't believe is evil and therefore will commit adultery and Jehovah will bring the truth out into the open, so hey you will be free soon. If not, atleast at armageddon or when one of you dies. 🤣
@jmars309
@jmars309 5 жыл бұрын
Its scary .. Lett looks like Rutherford.
@sasukeuchiha8648
@sasukeuchiha8648 5 жыл бұрын
He instructed the building of Beth Sarim at the height of the Great Depression to wait for the "patriarchs."
@sasukeuchiha8648
@sasukeuchiha8648 5 жыл бұрын
@@amandahuginkiss4098 Yes.
@rodywithers3536
@rodywithers3536 5 жыл бұрын
Sasuke Uchiha yes, he lived a life of religious indulgence whilst the rank and file sacrificed everything to “spread” the message and bring in more recruits. My JW grandparents led a frugal life, always expecting the end and never having much of anything whilst in the States, their president lived in luxury and had the absolute best medical care.
@onesunnyday5699
@onesunnyday5699 3 жыл бұрын
Riiiight 😉
@onesunnyday5699
@onesunnyday5699 3 жыл бұрын
@@rodywithers3536 Assembly of God is the same. The men in charge & their wives always looked perfectly turned out, coiffed & drove the best cars paid for by the ragged congestions.
@yvonne3903
@yvonne3903 2 жыл бұрын
@@rodywithers3536 best medical care with benefits
@byebyewatchtower
@byebyewatchtower 5 жыл бұрын
Lawyers are power hungry individuals. Many government officials are lawyers. How Rutherford felt he was above the law is a disgrace. Today, Watchtower's lawyers are as power hungry as Rutherford. Using the law to circumvent other peoples rights is also a sham.
@byebyewatchtower
@byebyewatchtower 5 жыл бұрын
You will find most US Democrat congressmen and congresswoman are lawyers. They are all power oriented.
@jonminnella2168
@jonminnella2168 5 жыл бұрын
dad said it best who ever lies the best whins in court there is no justice only disapointment I have found your on your own out there . saying that god helps those who help them self rings true in my life . you have to fight to get any thing done lawyers know that
@byebyewatchtower
@byebyewatchtower 5 жыл бұрын
@@jonminnella2168 how do you know when a Watchtower lawyer is lying? When their lips move.
@jonminnella2168
@jonminnella2168 5 жыл бұрын
lawyers and politicians are like a bunch of bananas they all hang together they're all yellow and there's not a straight one among them
@the22ndday
@the22ndday 5 жыл бұрын
I loved your interview with Mr Penton. It was wonderful!
@frikandelthaisaus
@frikandelthaisaus 5 жыл бұрын
While Russell though completely misguided was more or less sincere in his qeust for truth I think, Rutherford was nothing more than a power hungry, money grabbing opportunist.
@hrh4961
@hrh4961 3 жыл бұрын
Could say the same for L Ron, any televangelist, Graham (pere et fils), Falwell (pere et fils), Joe Smith/Brigham Young (the second "m" is always silent). And the list goes on. And on. And on.
@BethSarim-xq7xx
@BethSarim-xq7xx 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your excellent standard of journalism. Thank you for your two books. Thank you for your stand on shunning, intimate partner abuse, child sexual abuse, prohibition on blood transfusion and exposing high control manipulation techniques of WT. I have experienced the lot. Your work on YT and JWsurvey plus JWfacts contributed greatly to my awakening. I’ve moved through disbelief, frustration, extreme anger to resolution. Any chance of exposing N H Knorr? Thanks again and have a wonderful life!
@Nebiros21
@Nebiros21 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know if this will be mentioned in part 2, but regarding his power grab and under his leadership, he managed to retain the loyalty of only 25% of all Bible Students. So while he was quite the Machiavellian politician, he was a lousy leader.
@cpepservices1
@cpepservices1 5 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the second part, Lloyd. I love the pointed list of "awkward" facts. When he died, his successor, Nathan Knorr was quoted as exclaiming, "Papa has departed this world". Talk about yucky reverence. And JWs claim they don't look up to fellow humans. Does Part 2 cover the awkward fact that Rutherford attempted to stamp out reverence for Russell whose grieving followers sought to emulate? It is no coincidence that Rutherford surrounded himself with clean-shaven men with not a beard in sight and he was sarcastic and scathing of older brothers who sported beards a la Russell. In fact, you can trace JW organization's frowning upon beards back to Rutherford's drive to purge any trace of veneration of Russell. "We don't worship men," he thundered - even whilst allowing Witnesses of the day to hang onto his every word. Rutherford was a truly loathsome human being.
@domzzvipes6201
@domzzvipes6201 5 жыл бұрын
Its shocking how much easy it is to get answers to all those little and seemingly insignificant things in the org that we couldn't get whiles in. Eg. This beard issue that i never understood. I hated having to shave off regularly cos of razor bumps. But it was forced on me to do it more than once a week. And elders would admit there is no scriptural reference/basis for it but do it anyway. Its not a big deal and shows your humility and loyalty in following Jehovah's organisation's directives.
@lilz3242
@lilz3242 5 жыл бұрын
Wow 34,000 subscribers. There were 8,000 when I started watching this channel.
@sophieskitchen
@sophieskitchen 5 жыл бұрын
It's now up to 53k
@bobbowen9349
@bobbowen9349 4 жыл бұрын
64,000 now
@knowthyself8233
@knowthyself8233 3 жыл бұрын
90.2k now
@hannahterry8847
@hannahterry8847 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating 😂😂 I remember when an elder friend of mine was saying he met an "apostate" out in service that told him Bro Rutherford built a mansion for Abraham, and he laughed about it and all the "silly things apostates come up with. "😂😂
@domzzvipes6201
@domzzvipes6201 5 жыл бұрын
The irony. Once u give them info on their outrageous past, u shd hv reference from their own publications ready for them to crosscheck. Its a shock to the bone and could start an endless research loop that leads to an awakening.
@beautyRest1
@beautyRest1 4 жыл бұрын
And Beth Sarum is is mentioned in our literature, the proclaimers book!
@brianblessing8494
@brianblessing8494 4 жыл бұрын
Yes this is the biggest half - truth that the GB try and get all believers to actually believe that so called opposers are telling half truths while the the FDS are totally honest. After carefully examining the facts I've found that all material presented by opposers is actually backed up by facts and instead of being false is actually true. Something the GB doesn't want anyone to know.
@DR-mp4gv
@DR-mp4gv 4 жыл бұрын
Lol... that is rich.😂 I remember learning about the mansion at 14 back in about 1984. It was a quiet begrudging little secret. ...the light gets brighter...blablabla....lol
@brianblessing8494
@brianblessing8494 4 жыл бұрын
Yes of course we were all taught that all opposers are lairs so everything they said was viewed as nonsense low and behold they were telling the truth all along and as it turns out the GB were the ones lying.
@m1ndphaser
@m1ndphaser 5 жыл бұрын
i feel it needs to be said, for a religion that has overtly draconian consequences for anything sexually related, even by a tangent, to have this go on and never see any 'light' truly amazes.
@rainydays1105
@rainydays1105 5 жыл бұрын
Great photos. Thanks for the video.
@Conmezzo
@Conmezzo 5 жыл бұрын
Rutherford has all the warmth of occultist Aleister Crowley and looks like him too.
@FelixVW
@FelixVW 4 жыл бұрын
I also saw Aleister Crowley when I saw Rutherford. But Crowley cared for his wife, IIRC.
@Conmezzo
@Conmezzo 4 жыл бұрын
@@FelixVW👍 Rutherford's own son didn't attend his funeral. Rutherford may have been channeling spirits. He wrote that angels, conveyed messages because the Holy Spirit was gone.
@moxfox
@moxfox 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Cant wait for part 2. I love your outro song btw, it describes exactly how i feel about leaving the org! Keep up the great content !
@BLARG09
@BLARG09 5 жыл бұрын
I learn so much from your videos. Thank you so much.
@roberttau9558
@roberttau9558 5 жыл бұрын
Dear John, Thank you! Russell was not a jehovah witness but buried as a freemasone. Rutherford is one who thought talking too an angel in 1925. Insane! Rutherford played adultary, drinking and watched from his villa in california the end off time. Later on the 3e president Nathan Knorr said : Hé make a jackass off himselve!
@dianacryder7523
@dianacryder7523 5 жыл бұрын
Totally enjoyed. Thank you! Knowing the roots of an organization sheds light on what it's grown into, today. Alcohol is the drug of choice among Jehovah's Witnesses.
@embryterri
@embryterri 5 жыл бұрын
It really does...... they encourage you to look at all other religions backgrounds but they discourage members from researching theirs.
@helentruechristian4728
@helentruechristian4728 5 жыл бұрын
Diana Cryder - somebody one day said : "you, JWs, you don't smoke but, boy, you can drink!!!".
@dianacryder7523
@dianacryder7523 5 жыл бұрын
@Skjeren Kristjenson Whatever that means, lol. You know that doesn''t really hold true, right? Like, if you murdered someone, it doesn't mean I murdered 4 people, lol.
4 жыл бұрын
We all Drink Alcohol isn't that so.🍷🍹🍸🍺🍼 we even put it in a Baby Bottle.
@justcee2533
@justcee2533 5 жыл бұрын
A very interesting and insightful video as always. Looking forward to the next one! :)
@cx6009
@cx6009 5 жыл бұрын
I recall an assembly back home where one of the branch reps gave a talk, he was discussing the fact that sisters tended to like short skirts (major point of dispute) and said that as a farm boy he noticed that when the cows go in heat they lift up their tails.....powerful comparison I'd say which didn't go down very well with the sisters in the audience. Only when I left the cult I realised how distorted my view of women was.
@RiskeFactor
@RiskeFactor 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Now you're forcing my hand. I just might purchase your book.
4 жыл бұрын
The Force will be with you if you purchase a Bible sit down read it and get some insight maybe the Creator will read your ❤ Heart.
@saffronhammer7714
@saffronhammer7714 5 жыл бұрын
Sundays you publish a new video, are my favorite Sundays!
@theislandworkshop8453
@theislandworkshop8453 5 жыл бұрын
"A stack of bones and a shank of hair" that would make a great slogan for a shirt with his face on it. I would buy them as Christmas gifts for all my ex JW family
@retrowoodi
@retrowoodi 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I waiting for this video for some time. Thank you for your hard work.
@lynngardner3330
@lynngardner3330 5 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy you take the time to do the research & put all this Very interesting & useful info out for us to read( I don’t have time to look it up myself) This is a man made religion, interpretation of the Bible by a man. The religion keeps changing its beliefs but I doubt that the belittled position of women will change soon with the J w’s . Thanks! This should wake many up. Waiting for part 2.
@widescreennavel
@widescreennavel 3 жыл бұрын
If I had built the house, I would have certainly had divine inspiration that Ye Old Tub of Hot be included in said floorplans. Tubs of Hot are a mademoiselle magnet.
@kirtleyburggraf8786
@kirtleyburggraf8786 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Reading chapter seven right now. Can't put the book down and can't wait for the TTATT movie to come out.
@RiaCottingham
@RiaCottingham 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video, thanks Lloyd. Looking forward to the next one
@williamrobert2912
@williamrobert2912 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Maria, how're you doing?
@scarletpeate
@scarletpeate 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing for me thanks. I needed this. Makes me wonder. If you were to create a ten point leaflet to hand to a jw that would make them doubt and research. What points would you put in it. I'd love to hand one to them. I find them rather lacking intellect these days and quite closed to any thinking outside their wavelength
@scarletpeate
@scarletpeate 5 жыл бұрын
It so sad. So many lives wasted. Thank goodness I got out.
@1chadmon
@1chadmon 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, another fascinating insight. I didn’t know about Beth Sarim until I was out and I was stunned - the absolute absurdity!
@brandypoling4487
@brandypoling4487 5 жыл бұрын
I remember an Awake article on it when I was maybe middle school age and a brief mention or two in watchtower but that was about it. I was born in 78 and a 4th generation on both my mother and father's side of the family 😣 Most of my family are still in.
@davidwicklin9943
@davidwicklin9943 5 жыл бұрын
I found out this year Beth Sarim was built in 1929(it says it on the property and official records) before The Great Depression and before Beth Shan which was built with an accompanying bomb shelter in 1939 and that is the one primarily shown being built in your video clip as it's across Montezuma Avenue in San Diego from where the Beth Sarim home still stands today in San Diego, CA, USA. I researched that a sports radio talk show host in San Diego named Michael Costa owns part of what was the Beth Shan property purchasing it from the previous owners in 2015. An obscure book I purchased that have records of this is called "Jehovah's Witnesses: Their Monuments To False Prophecy" by authors Edmond C. Gruss and Leonard Chretien. Another good one is "Millions of Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses: Many Reasons They Left", also by Edmond C. Gruss.
@canoenut
@canoenut 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the additional details. I was going to mention it but you did a more complete job!
@whiteriver1453
@whiteriver1453 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@davidwicklin9943
@davidwicklin9943 5 жыл бұрын
Skjeren Kristjenson No, they wound up bringing hi remains to New York!
@davidwicklin9943
@davidwicklin9943 2 жыл бұрын
@Sweetpea Exactly! Total hypocrisy and going completely against what watchtower itself taught anyway regarding opulent, materialistic, prosperity preaching lifestyles. Corrupt.
@win4777
@win4777 5 жыл бұрын
You are very knowledgeable and extremely articulate! Keep up the good work!!!
@ajamubey6924
@ajamubey6924 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, William Henry Conley was the first president of Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society, from 1881 to 1884. In December 1884, the Society was incorporated with Charles Taze Russell as president. In 1896, the Society was renamed Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, and later became associated with Jehovah's Witnesses.
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 5 жыл бұрын
I was careful not to call him the second president in the video.
@jasonwade7244
@jasonwade7244 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual, Lloyd. Your layouts, transitions and editing skills have improved exponentially!
@TheQuackOfDucks
@TheQuackOfDucks 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I don’t know what it was about this video in particular that made me go “There’s no way this religion is the truth, this religion is awful” I had been doubting this religion for years and felt guilty for doing so, the thought that this religion was actually, well, a cult stuck with me after I saw some ex jws comments on an article that mentioned Jehovah’s witnesses saying it was actually a cult for their views on blood transfusions and shunning. I felt a little shocked because to me shunning was always shown as a good thing that would help them turn back to Jehovah, I never actually looked at it from the point of view of the person being shunned. I felt doubt but I never looked deeper into the claims they made because I felt like I’d be betraying God if I did, then this video came up in my recommendations and I decided to watch it. I have no idea why this video in particular made me finally realize how messed up this religion is, but thank you for it!
@paul1887
@paul1887 3 жыл бұрын
This would make an awesome drunk history episode! Man would that be funny!
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 5 жыл бұрын
Rutherford is my favorite J-Dub character of all time. I was extremely excited when I saw the title of this video, yet as much disappointed that it was so short. I'll be looking forward to part 2.
@valeraBS13
@valeraBS13 5 жыл бұрын
he could be a GTA character
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 5 жыл бұрын
@@valeraBS13 - We need a TV show about the J-Dub History on HULU, Amazon or Netflix.
@theresaakins2317
@theresaakins2317 5 жыл бұрын
I keep hearing the word J-dub what is that?
@1jazzyphae
@1jazzyphae 5 жыл бұрын
@@theresaakins2317 haha what Jehovah's witnesses or ex call others. I used to day that about my ex friend. We were J-dubs instead of jws lol
@derklebob8161
@derklebob8161 5 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I've been driving past that mansion all my life as a JW and never knew it was Rutherfords...
@alomaalber6514
@alomaalber6514 5 жыл бұрын
I had wondered if the inexpensive Rutherford california wine is near his property ???? . The California home is now a private home of a non-JW family but there is a plaque there. Ken Burn's Prohibition documentary is a fun show! For the era, Russell was okay with women writing material for him. When Rutherford grabbed the authority it was very sexist.
@mackiepimo-jwjones3019
@mackiepimo-jwjones3019 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the next vid BTW congrats on 34k sub's! I remember when I first subbed you were at 10k
@dancingmoonite1962
@dancingmoonite1962 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, love the music in the background! ♥️
@joannbarnett6690
@joannbarnett6690 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! This is really going to help my research. Of course I'll be watching every video in this series. :D
@HJockers66
@HJockers66 5 жыл бұрын
well done, love this series looking forward to the next parts. btw: city of St. Louis , the S at the end is pronounced unlike the French version of the King. :-)
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 5 жыл бұрын
Oops, sorry about that! :)
@cwoodswalker4646
@cwoodswalker4646 5 жыл бұрын
Great start to an examination of this tyrant. Thanks Lloyd, looking forward to part 2!!
@TimKollat
@TimKollat 5 жыл бұрын
Rutherford looks like he could be Benjamin Netanyahu's father or uncle. Looks similar in some pictures
@ronwillan3179
@ronwillan3179 5 жыл бұрын
When this first came up in my page feed I thought it was about 'Mike Rutherford' from Genesis! It was quite a relief when I looked more closely and realised it was referring to "Judge" Rutherford!!!
@renatakortynova9395
@renatakortynova9395 5 жыл бұрын
I love Your work. Keep i going! :)
@danh.8261
@danh.8261 5 жыл бұрын
It is also not mentioned very often that Rutherford kept two V12 Cadillacs at Beth Serim for his own personal use, paid for by donations. In today's money that would be about the same as having a pair of Bentleys. All the while his followers are penniless due to the Great Depression.
@starman1745
@starman1745 5 жыл бұрын
Man, if you had some reference to proof of this, I'd be extremely grateful
@richardbruning
@richardbruning 5 жыл бұрын
Focusing only on the production side: You’re getting really good at this, Lloyd. You’ve always presented your position and thoughts clearly and attractively, but there’s a noticeable step-up with videos like this. Kudos. (Just don’t get too slick, ok?) Thx for all you do.
@omarseneriz5577
@omarseneriz5577 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information... Currently learning lots of history I had no idea happened. Thank You
@greatdayn4651
@greatdayn4651 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mr Evans.
@randyfrancis2808
@randyfrancis2808 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a heap for such an enlightening video...eager to dig my teeth into part 2.
@Sparkle.Glider
@Sparkle.Glider 5 жыл бұрын
Disgusting being. He’s what caused the Watchtower to become what it is.
@historicalbiblicalresearch8440
@historicalbiblicalresearch8440 5 жыл бұрын
I want a personal dietician and nurse as well, qualifications not required . Just need a way of explaining this to my wife, I fear she won't be understanding. ..
@DavidTaylor-ki2ir
@DavidTaylor-ki2ir 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative video Lloyd. Thanks! I wonder if you'd ever be willing to do a video on the role of William Henry Conley in the founding of the WTBTS. He was officially the first president of Zion's Watchtower Tract Society.
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 5 жыл бұрын
There's hardly enough information to write about him (even though I do mention him in my book) let alone do a video. His involvement was never explained in the literature. But I would love to know more, that's for sure.
@Front24237
@Front24237 3 жыл бұрын
If you have served as a Judge on a "handful of times" then you have the right to call yourself Judge. It is a common practice in the US.
@hollydickey15
@hollydickey15 5 жыл бұрын
This “old bag of bones and hank of hair “ appreciates this and all of your videos !! Keep up the good work telling the REAL TRUTH!
@williamrobert2912
@williamrobert2912 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, how're you doing?
@gaillarsen7863
@gaillarsen7863 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, I guess its a case of do what i say not what i do.
@Esther-1914
@Esther-1914 5 жыл бұрын
@John_Cedars Thanks for a good belly laugh today! The elites of the Watchtower Corporation were no better than some of the big-time pastors of "Christendom" for immorality, etc.! This video is absolutely hilarious! I loved the part about the Canadian Bethelite who criticized "da Judge" for asking him to smuggle whiskey during the prohibition years! ROFL!
@bobbywright3701
@bobbywright3701 5 жыл бұрын
I thought you were going to say symposium at the end there! Excellent as always thanks for your research and helping clear the mind!
@DR-mp4gv
@DR-mp4gv 3 жыл бұрын
If more knew this earlier on they would have left much sooner. Thank you internet!!!!!😉
@BigDaddyAddyMS
@BigDaddyAddyMS 5 жыл бұрын
Love your channel! I was raised JW, but dabbled in other denominations as a teenager before finally becoming an athiest (thank god!). My father's side of the family is 100% JW still. I knew their beliefs were silly, but didn't realize just how crazy they were until I started watching your videos. Seeing your video on the Revelation book brought back so many memories. I remember all of the pictures vividly because my parents read it to me and my sisters when we were little, and of course we all believed them..
@Sme-ds7yq
@Sme-ds7yq 4 жыл бұрын
So Tony Morris is just following in Rutherfords alcoholic footsteps.
@mulanrouge89
@mulanrouge89 5 жыл бұрын
As always great information!!! Love your videos! I know its not related but I just came from the movie theater from watching Smallfoot i would love to hear what do you think of it. I couldn't help but to related to JW's.
@Ugly_German_Truths
@Ugly_German_Truths 5 жыл бұрын
A religious founding figure that is a blatant hypocrite and immoral sinner despite what they demand others to do with their lives? How surprising and novelty!
@galianoazazdeazevedo5966
@galianoazazdeazevedo5966 5 жыл бұрын
Hi John! Watched the video and found very interesting. Really wishing you can reply to my questions below: What are your beliefs? What are your views about Christ/Jesus Christ? Do you follow religion or Christ? What are the most important things every Christian should be doing and do you do them?
@TheSilverBeagle
@TheSilverBeagle 5 жыл бұрын
Judge Boozeford is a Judge in the same way that I'm a Rock Star because I played my acoustic guitar 3 times in a cafe when I was leaning.
@DellaStreet123
@DellaStreet123 Жыл бұрын
At least you had three "gigs". While some sources claim Rutherford served as an emergency judge four times, only one single session is confirmed.
@brandypoling4487
@brandypoling4487 5 жыл бұрын
It's no wonder JW's are given little to no truth on their founding fathers and how the entire organization came to be! It is completely based on men over times preferences. For the average Joe off the street today to join without being born in is ridiculous. Most would do the tiniest research and know that this is not "the truth". I for one am thankful that we now have the internet and people such as yourself to help those of us born in to find our way out. It helps me to let go of the guilt and shame for leaving. Thank you Lloyd 😙 It's actually an accidental stumble upon your videos that helped save my family/marriage.
@paulbuswell6566
@paulbuswell6566 5 жыл бұрын
Rutherfords whiskey was purchased using Watchtower funds?......Some things never change!
@northwestpioneer7057
@northwestpioneer7057 5 жыл бұрын
I can't seem to find Part II - can anyone please provide a link?
@jameswolfe3029
@jameswolfe3029 5 жыл бұрын
Great video brother!
@nickit7655
@nickit7655 3 жыл бұрын
"Rules for thee and not for me."
@slymm619
@slymm619 5 жыл бұрын
Yas!!! Another video to look forward to.
@larlar4477
@larlar4477 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your hard work here! It is being viewed by many people. I hope some will see your videos before they join this religious club of Pharisees and con men who have destroyed families and relationships forever...
@jbone2345
@jbone2345 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Just wondering where do you get your information from for fact #1 about Rutherford removing people from the board.
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 5 жыл бұрын
There are a number of sources, but it's fascinating to read the ousted directors' version of events in the 1917 publication "Light After Darkness." Link: watchtowerdocuments.org/documents/1917_Light_After_Darkness.pdf
@jbone2345
@jbone2345 5 жыл бұрын
@@LloydEvans Thanks!
@fritula6200
@fritula6200 5 жыл бұрын
Rutherford looks suave... a dandy. Craved power... lived luxuriously... drank alcohol a lot.... autocratic controller. In my opinion only... l suspect he was homosexual.
@slut4jesus925
@slut4jesus925 5 жыл бұрын
I mean in the context of the paragraph about adultery you took the quote from; he's already committed a form of a sin. In the case of being able to take a male nurse or arrange one to travel with you instead of a female, his decision should be brought into question? Or treated as if the adultery occurred anyway. Surely he should have been at least strongly counselled on that? If a sister was to do something like that it would end her. And the mansion? This guy is a conman, and a good one seeing as he doesn't seem to have a drop of decency in him.
@sourcedrop7624
@sourcedrop7624 5 жыл бұрын
Judge Dredd
@elguapo221
@elguapo221 3 жыл бұрын
I got to say this puts into perspective how it comes to be that Tony Morris maintains a similar alcohol habit if not the whole GB
@SavageGreywolf
@SavageGreywolf 5 жыл бұрын
Rutherford was so batshit, you can't leave this hanging Lloyd. Come on, part 2!
@CanadianLoveKnot
@CanadianLoveKnot 5 жыл бұрын
It's weird that Jesus chose this guy of all people, but who am I to question Jesus!
@byebyewatchtower
@byebyewatchtower 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus did not choose Rutherford. He chose himself and got rid of the people who were against him. Then, he established the legal department at Bethel. And, now look at Watchtower's legal department. They are inundated with child sexual abuse cases. It's like the Godfather movies. Get rid of your opponent. And, claim the throne. Now, we are seeing the after effects.
@CanadianLoveKnot
@CanadianLoveKnot 5 жыл бұрын
I was joking, you know that right?
@byebyewatchtower
@byebyewatchtower 5 жыл бұрын
Lol.
@jonminnella2168
@jonminnella2168 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus told his Apostles you will know my people by their fruit he also said Beware of false prophets coming in my name I have avoided all contact with any organized religion for The Last 5 Years I have just been using the Bible only with this experience I have really noticed what Jesus meant you can find all kinds of contaminated fruit and false prophets man is in perfect therefore don't listen to man rather listen to the Bible all this is happening because people bend their knee to man a form of idolatry if you ask me. keep your eyes open and run from the dangerous behavior
@wtstudies3805
@wtstudies3805 5 жыл бұрын
Well, he chose Paul and he was a piece of garbage too, so there's a pattern there.
@LisaForTruth
@LisaForTruth 5 жыл бұрын
How did this guy ever usurp authority?
@leopoldtheseconed8526
@leopoldtheseconed8526 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. This was very mind blowing. Be great to get one like this on Br Morris. Something fishy there I think!
@tranceman22
@tranceman22 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Lloyd. I saw something about elders instructions about divorcing families and children. Havre you done a video about this poor do you plan to?
@awakefromthewatchtower8055
@awakefromthewatchtower8055 5 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable! If any JW are still a jw after seeing this! Then they will believe anything and there's no hope for them!!!!!
@triggawoods6888
@triggawoods6888 5 жыл бұрын
When I told my biological brother the faults of CT Russell he was like "blah blah blah, Rutherford fixed it..." bullshit. And when my now wife, I asked if (when she was studying with her sister) did yall cover the JV book? And she had no clue who Russell, Rutherford, or Knorr for that matter were...I knew it was a wrap..
@rawetha
@rawetha 5 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the song at the end of your video?
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 5 жыл бұрын
"Not Forever" by Martin Hall. :)
@slymm619
@slymm619 5 жыл бұрын
I live in San Diego and would love to know where the current BethSarin is. I think it's in north park area.
@khanwh74
@khanwh74 5 жыл бұрын
Awkward to have a leader like him.
@benkenobi5796
@benkenobi5796 5 жыл бұрын
John, I knew all these facts from reading here and there. You bring them all together. Thank you very much for this. I hope for many other JW´s who see your documentations that this is stronger then their WT-Indoctrination. thank you again for your hard work!!!
@marciodp1003
@marciodp1003 5 жыл бұрын
Is your book avaiable in portuguese language?
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 5 жыл бұрын
Not yet, sorry!
@jennysmith9501
@jennysmith9501 3 жыл бұрын
Rutherford reminds me of the prosperity gospel preachers. Using the funds of the followers to support his lifestyle
@williamrobert2912
@williamrobert2912 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jenny, how're you doing?
@RitaMalikfour
@RitaMalikfour 5 жыл бұрын
I heard I. A tour of female bethelites the owners said Rutherford was buried under the cement in the garage, he wanted to stay there really bad, I got it off google
@ArizonaRed
@ArizonaRed 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I thought I had heard everything.
@williamrobert2912
@williamrobert2912 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Shayla, how're you doing?
@alexiswheeler497
@alexiswheeler497 4 жыл бұрын
What kills me is that Watchtower tells you not to look up information they dont give you because it can be from apostates. A lot of this stuff you can go see for yourself without KZfaq. Like Russell's grave (which is really weird) and Beth-siram which is now a California historic site I believe. The information on Beth-siram is public knowledge but so many people either dont know or stay blind.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 3 жыл бұрын
Beth Sarim I’d have more respect for JW if they still had the Mansion. The fact that they got rid of it seems lame.
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