You can be cast into the time vortex for that. 😭😭😭😭😭😭

See, that's what I think; a lady at work just stumbled while walking down the hallway a few days ago and now I relate that to unseen Silence bodies in various states of decay.

I figured that with humans now programmed to kill them, the Silence got the heck out of Dodge at first chance.

Well... that's a disturbing thought!

Champion reply! 👏🙌💙💙💯 (I’m totally blaming every time I stumble on ‘The Silence’ from now on. Lol)

Also Amy and Rory could have very well been cremated

@@SirZeu Or alkaline hydrolysed.

@@SirZeucremated, and then Given a headstone at a grave plot in the graveyard The Doctor sees? 😅

@@SamanthaS92 Well for example in Germany there's something called "Friedhofszwang" where you are forced to have a grave even when cremated.

@@SamanthaS92 yes? very common where i live. both my grandparent are buried like that.

I was thinking the same thing.

@@ringozeitgeist Yep.

Exactly

Then again, during 11's run, the Brigadier did indeed die peacefully. Not said implicitly, but implied... peacefully at home (likely in his sleep).

I've always seen it that way. The Seventh Doctor was full of things like that! And, of course, Unlimited Rice Pudding, etc., etc.!

Omg thanks so much i hope that they didnt that would be to sad 😢😢

I like to believe that at least Rory did, just to add 1 more to list of times Rory died. At this point he might be a Timelord

I had forgotten that Amy and Rory would be in the nethersphere. They could produce an amazing DW short about their final moments as the hard drive was shut down. Perhaps they even met Danny, and were somehow involved in his decision to save a child rather than himself.

​@@pepe-zj6cnwhy?

In short: I don't think that Amy and Rory were transformed to Cybermen. In long: Sit down, take a cup of tea, we are going deep in *takes a deep breath* "Wibbly wobbly, timey wimey" is a window in time that we can't define and which I will ignore. In the end it would add one or two years to the result. Source is mainly wikipedia. First of all we establishe the year Amy and Rory died. Amy meets the doctor as a seven-year old girl (in "The Eleventh Hour"). 5 minutes later or 12 years I guess, "Wibbly wobbly, timey wimey", she is 19 years old (7 + 12 = 19). This is in her kissogram phase. After the doctor test rides his new Tardis Amy got 2 years more in the waiting game (19 + 2 = 21) and is about to marry Rory. After a little bit time traveling with the doctor and Rory finally waiting 2000 years for his girlfriend in a Pandorica-Box to arrive and the reset of the whole universe. "Okay, kid. This is where it gets complicated.". I would suggest that the age didn't change much, so Amy is still 21. Some time goes by with Amy and Rory traveling with the doctor, "Wibbly wobbly, timey wimey", (honeymoon, birth of Melody Pond, 2 Amy's in quarantine). He lets them live a normal life, until they meet again 2 years gone by (21 + 2 = 23)(in "The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe"). After their divorce in "Asylum of the Daleks", they both get together and Amy hints that the doctor is for 10 years in their both lives. This can be defined at two starting dates, the first one would be the time when the doctor meets Rory for the first time in "The Eleventh Hour" or the time where Rory travels with Amy and the doctor together. I choose the first date, which would result in Amy being a few years younger, so (19 + 10 = 29). Rory is said to be 31 years old at the time of "Dinosaurs on a Spaceship". Now to the hard part. In "The Angels Take Manhattan" Amy and Rory were send back in time. According to the book which Amy wrote in the 1930s, the time she arrived would be 1925-1939 (this is a guess). 1946 they adopted their son. Amy died at the age of 87 and Rory at the age of 82. When Amy died at the age of 87 and was around 29 when she was send back in time, she would live around 58 years from the 1930s (87 - 29 = 58). 1925 + 58 = 1983 1930 + 58 = 1988 1939 + 58 = 1997 (1 year after her birth according to an other source) 1946 + 58 = 2004 When Rory died at the age of 82 and was around 31 when he was send back in time, he would live around 51 years from the 1930s (82 - 31 = 51). 1925 + 51 = 1976 1930 + 51 = 1981 1939 + 51 = 1990 1946 + 51 = 2097 Let's assume it was 1939 when they arrived, both would be dead by 1998. R.I.P you both. Secondly we state the date Brigadier Sir Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart died. Don't worry, it will be a short summary. According "The Wedding of River Song" he died 2011. Now that we have some points in time, we can see if Amy and Rory could be Cybermens in "Death in Heaven". We know that Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart became a Cybermen, that means Missy has to be arround 2011 to collect the mind of the people who are about to die. To collect Amy and Rory, Missy had to be in the time before 1998. Which would mean that she did travel in time and did set this all up before Harold Saxon. But when Sason died, would he not also be collected and uploaded? But that would cause a time paradox with Missy living. An other point is the brain that a Cybermen needs, without the brain a Cybermen is nothing more than a robot. So only recently passed away could be transformed to a Cybermen after the rain of "Cyberpollen". My last point why Amy and Rory are not transformed to Cybermen is a combination of the previous ones. Amy and Rory died in Manhatten (tombstones), Missy had to be at that time to set up the upload and conversion to Cybermen, this combination does not realy work out. It's more likely that they both did not became Cybermen. *exhales*

And he keeps leaving the handbrake on! There's also the slightly inconvenient fact that TARDIS's are supposed to be escape capsules and the Doctor's TARDIS is doing things it wasn't even designed to do. That poor old girl has been pinging all over the universe for millennia, she deserves a break. Definitely not to be crushed to death!

@@ModelsExInferis Don’t forget they are research vessel as well! Though it depends on the particular TARDIS. Some were better suited to transportation, others research, and a small handful dedicated to warfare-mainly the types developed during the Time War, such as the War Spire Type-94 and the absolutely horrifying Time Dreadnought Type 105. I’m surprised at this point without any true maintenance on his craft she hasn’t finally buckled down. Considering the Shipyard that made her is long gone, spare parts aren’t exactly common anymore…

And she was already in for maintenance when he stole her!

With the new models, they may have removed the living side and kept only the machine side to avoid potential drift on the part of the consciousness of each old TARDIS.

​@@mathisbiaujout5858not Maybe it is Like that. Get mentioned in one of the Audios If im right. The old ones have to much impect and free will, a Point that Time Lords don't Like so they Change parts of it. The Doctor T-40 TARDIS already was a Pretty old one as He stole her, getting mentioned as Museum Piece or Scrap so she definitly has a free will. Clara told him to Take her since that, their was nothing Bad at her, but the free will and newer Generations get her Out of Order. For the doctor she is perfect since she predict where are People in need an bring him their. The Master TARDIS for Exemple was as He First steal it a Typ-42, as He Take the Name "The Master" He already switched her and use a Typ-45. So we dunno what Generation exactly the one destroyed was and If it had a high Personality and bioparts or was already more mechanic

Considering what we know about commerce it's safe to assume that the forget drug only works temporarily, so that customers have an incentive to buy again and agin.

@@Wonzling0815 I wouldn't say "safe to assume", but certainly possible.

He probably looked him up in one of his trips to the future.

​@@HariSeldon913If so, why was he visibly devastated during Matt Smith's tenure to find out he had died?

Agree. It was a lament, not a knowledge statement.

Agreed, I have heard that phrase or something similar in so many books and movies especially those about war.

Barely. He was pushed into it.

​and he had already died at that point

I think that was stupid nothing against John Hurt but not to have 8th Doctor in 50th was a mistake

@@davidcrazyrides It was originally suppose to have been Eccelston in the 50th but he turned it down. So, Moffatt had to think of something else and, since the Doctor at that time still had a regeneration left, the War Doctor was born.

@@ronaldnelson6692 yes know but it easy to work the 8th Doctor in there at some part at least we got the 4th doctor in though

Good ol' brigadier kept going for a long time tbf His appearance in the Sarah Jane adventures was a joy Indo agree that it was probably a wish for his friend to be retired and peaceful but it hits harder knowing that's how he passed within the show

My wife and my oldest are both very good at locating the bodies of dead Silences.

@@DneilB007 lol!

The silence are not invisible. If you are looking in their direction, you will see them. Even if you aren't looking where you are going, after you trip, you will more than likely look back to see what you tripped over, then you would see them. (I am sorry for taking it too seriously and spoiling the joke, but you are not the only one who made the joke.) The video made more than one ridiculous claim, the whole idea that we wouldn't notice dead bodies lying around was just one of them. Sure, we would forget when we turn away, but not while we are looking at them. And wouldn't at least UNIT be noticing the bodies and doing something about them, as well as whoever is doing the killing?

Except that in The Parting of the Ways, Rose specifically brought up the fact that there was a "blonde girl" with him when he died, and that that girl was her. And Jackie didn't dispute it.

@@ealeana3569 I think that this was after the anomaly had been corrected meaning that Pete died when and where he was supposed to. The fact that there was now a mysterious blonde girl with him when he died didn't need to be erased or changed back to the exact original version.

@@stevesm4 Yes, but, in the original timeline, Jackie told Rose, "I only wish there'd been someone there for him" (when he died). The fact that Rose ended up being there is different than the original and shows that there was a slight change to the original timeline. I only mentioned it because Rose makes a point of referencing it when she's trying to convince her mother that she needs to get back to the doctor at the end of the season.

That episode kills me cause she risked everything for her father to be alive again I’m so glad they had the best outcome in the in the finale ep with the rose part from Micky lol

I didn't know whether the half - human bit was canon or became accepted as such, or the production people wrote that in just to make him relatable.

​@DanielAppleton-lr9eq It was written in because of the US TV finance. The execs didn't want a 100% alien. Same with Mr Spock in Star Trek.

The Paul McGann Doctor should never have been accepted into canon. That film was just rubbish, an insult to fans and to all the great talent that went into the show over the decades since it began.

And we still don't know, who's Gus.

Colin earned the nickname " The Electric Doctor " because of the *GARISH* outfits that they made him wear. All he needed was a big red nose and clown makeup along with a colorful wig.

Ellie strongly agrees.

My favorite companion of the New Era.

and all the former companions who were alive on earth were changed into the master, like mickey, martha, and sarah jane

All those companions and the Brigadier was the only one who could resist having his mind taken over? The Doctor should have had at least a dozen Cyber-allies.

the only one that was at that graveyard

But they were dead and in graves. So what, the Master had a lot of dead clones burried six feet under. How exactly does it matter? It was undone by Rassilon in the end. It might be a "nice detail", but nothing more than that. Stuff with Amy and Rory being turned into Cybermen and coming out of their graves is a little bit more disturbing than lots of dead copies of the Master burried under earth.

At least that got reversed afterwards, though.

I'm sorry, but unless you are walking around in the dark or wearing a blindfold, you would see a dead Silence if you were looking in their direction, so unless you intentionally step on/over dead bodies, that doesn't make any sense, and you would certainly see it when you look back to see what you tripped over if you do walk over bodies.

It might still be canon. Even with the Timeless Child reveal, the Doctor still had the same Tardis as always. Possibly several lifetimes before the First Doctor stole her from the workshop.

There's another one of the books, "Blood Heat" I think, where Seven loses his TARDIS in a tar pit, but he was in an alternate timeline where the Silurians killed Three, and he takes his TARDIS. (I read that book like 25 years ago and can still remember that. Not where I left my keys an hour ago.)

@@andreacook7431Hell, if you get an hour you're doing better than me. I forget what I went downstairs for by the time I get there!

when writing a comment above I decided that the plural of TARDIS should be TARDIS, the same as with jedi! It's easier.

Thank you for watching!

Presumably Sarah Jane would be included in that?

Wouldn't someone notice all those weird alien bodies lying around?

Anyone remember the X files episode "je souhaite"? An invisble man gets run over by a car, ends up on the sidewalk and a day later causes a cyclist to comically crash into an empty spot with buzzing flies. Imagine that happening all over the world unless people look directly at the bodies :D

yeah, largely because that’s just not what a video game is. Any AI at play in a video game is one or two “directors” shuffling models around, playing audio files, and otherwise creating the illusion that there are other conscious beings in this virtual world. if video games had consciousness, they would not be experiencing you murdering them, they’d be experiencing… being a video game. They would know that their purpose was to manage the illusory scene. So a GTA game wouldn’t be going “oh my god, i’m about to get run over ahhhh” it would be going “ok, he’s going on a rampage. let’s play those terrified running animations, cue the scream sounds, yes good, now bring in the cops, ooh nice dodge, he’s getting better at this. now let’s spawn a tank, but not too near, he’s only at four stars yet” etc

@@chexfan2000 More "Wreck-It Ralph" than "TRON"

@@DavidBeddard exactly, although even that movie portrayed each character as having their own POV, when in reality that would be an absurd waste of system resources. it’s still to this day incredibly rare to have working mirrors in a video games, for instance, since it requires rendering a second POV or faking that with an entirely separate space. the game world only exists in the way in appears on the screen while it’s on the screen! black mirror is very guilty of pushing this nonsense, and it always drives me insane because no matter how much tech advances, there will always be a much better use for processing power than creating conscious beings and making them experience a full range of sensory input, especially if said beings regularly have massive existential crises and in at least one case, attack and kill or at least permanently disable the guy playing the game. there will just never be any reason for that to be something a computer would be used for

@@chexfan2000 That kind of argument could have been made for many things that humans have ended up doing anyway throughout history. Just because something is a bad idea doesn't mean it won't be done.

@@DavidBeddard it’s not just a bad idea, it’s an unbelievably complicated undertaking that would benefit precisely nobody when nearly all other available paths to narrative and experiential fidelity offer less resistance. You can’t just make shit up and use “well, people said other shit was unlikely, and what i said sounds unlikely, so it’s probably going to happen” as proof that it will happen. Just because some people said we’d never walk on the moon doesn’t mean we WILL strap rockets to the moon and fly it around going “WHEEEEE”. one was a difficult undertaking, the other is a nonsensical and pointless undertaking that would cause problems and enrich nobody and improve nothing.

A fan called Steven Ricks custom made a costume for him which is what he wears in the episode and at many convention appearances. He also made Peter Davison's costume for the recent Power of the Doctor episode.

Hmm that’s odd, could’ve sworn we put one in there…?

Oh you... 😉

@@WhoCulture Ok where did you get the perception filter?

@@BoredPodcasterSome blue fella, think his name was Dorium Maldovar…? Haven’t heard from him in a while, hope he’s doing ok!

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Same bro 😭💀

GTA? Man, I played lots of Prototype, I probably killed half of the New York population...

My ADHD explained!

From the dialogue of Morbius in The Brain of Morbius, time lords also have ranks. I can't remember the exact words he said but it was when he scoffed at the 4th Doctor's challenge to a battle of minds; he said something like, "I am a time lord of the 16th rank! What are you?" Great story for many reasons.

That would be River Song. Her story is one of the most heart wrenching.

She? Uh that incarnation never existed and even if she did, 100% of the fanbase would not disapprove of her presence

@@mattthesilent777REDI think they might have been referring to the *TARDIS* in question as a she 🤔 That’s how I took the comment, at least 🤷‍♂️

@@jevonator_9479 I was talking about Jodie Whittaker's Doctor, I'm no sexist but Whittaker's Doctor has failed in proving herself a worthy incarnation. Frankly I was happy to see her turn into the Master as her punishment

It's Chibnall, he doesn't give a toss about history or what went before, he's a talentless hack, let's just ignore the whole sorry abortion

@@mattthesilent777RED Ok but the guy was still referring to the TARDIS not to the Doctor so you're useless

Or the first time they tripped over them.

You literally see them saving their minds. That's what the nether Sphere was The saved consciousness of the dead

@@plantainsame2049 Wasn't the consciousness separate from the body? I didn't think they could "easily" go back. And if there is not organic material left to go back to, then I don't think it matters if your consciousness is still around, without meat to put it into, you are dead and Rory and Amy were LONG LONG Dead.

@@kelvington4182 First off, no They weren't they were only in there Like 30s at most, and they were sent back to the 40s. They would have probably died around the Eighties are nineties And second that's where the robot parts come in

@@plantainsame2049 They were sent back to 1938 so they probably died in the 1980's. No meat survived for 40 years. :) But it's nice we are having such a polite discussion of this! We must be the adults in the room! LOL

@@kelvington4182 Yes yes they fucking Would Google the The human life Lifespan in the modern era Yeah, a person in the forties would have died in the eighties But amy and rory still had the bodies of people From twenty twelve

“I DoNt CoNsIdER …” boi stfu you aren’t writing this I’m sure your story would be sterile, gag inducing, and boring. Send me your ao3 and prove my wrong you wanker

Chibnall has a lot to answer for.

Nice bit of world building on what was just an in joke lol😂

Your 9. ruined any chance of me taking you seriously as it is so blatantly wrong and nonsensical.

And frankly I don't give a damn what you think is "blatantly wrong and nonsensical". In less than a few years since Chibnall and Jodie started their runs, nuWho's ratings and viewership numbers have sunk harder and deeper than the Titanic. At one point, a rerun of an old game show (I think it was Wheel of Fortune?) had higher viewership numbers than a new episode premiering on BBC 1! Chibnall's pitch to the BBC's higher ups for his time on nuWho was to "deconstruct" the entire show's mythology. He succeeded in the most terrible of ways, and as such Doctor Who as a whole, not just nuWho, is basically being considered a dying brand. Why do you think they're bringing Tennant and Tate back for a few specials? It's to try to drum up hype, interest, and viewership by appealing to people's memories of nuWho's golden age. You may not want to believe it, but those two have damaged nuWho severely. Russel has a lot of work on his hands to try to salvage this mess.@@DrWhoFanJ

@@KimPossibleShockwave And yet I already know full well that precisely nothing in that tirade is even remotely factual. Just because you refuse to accept the actual truth does not make said truth not the truth; it just proves you to be a braindead imbecile incapable of rational thinking skills.

@@DrWhoFanJ wrong. Chibnall and Jodie forever killed Dr. Who. It was woke cultural vandalism.

I know what you mean about the 1st Doctor but personally I don't like the idea of the first actor we ever saw playing the Doctor being the actual first incarnation of him (yes, *him* ). It just isn't a requirement. It also doesn't sit well with the original cannon that the Doctor was a young Gallifreyan (sp?) who was a sub-standard student, who stole a TARDIS because he found his traditional prospects unappealing. Similarly, I dislike the idea of the 13 incarnations limit to time lord's lifespans. Much better to my mind would have been an indeterminate number similar to the way humans become increasingly likely to die the older they live. This way, a time lord would have a 'reincarnation expectancy'. This would allow Dr. Who to run endlessly. As it's gone, the limit has resulted in writers having to bend-over-backwards to justify the Doctor continuing past 13 and this has led to the show becoming increasingly contrived. Not that I have much time for nuWho anyway.

Maybe. But bodies have been preserved for millennia. True, it was in the desert or in bogs, but they have been around longer.

@@MinimalistTheatre333 I know. But that this would happen to a former companion of the Doctor out of billion bodies in the Earth is a really big coincidence. Unless Scotland's ground is generally known for such conservations, of course.

Are you blind, too?