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Number 1 it didn't get enough screen time and was literally overshadowed by bigger ships

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At least Resurgent Class is more creative than Xyston Class, instead of giving a different paint job and stick a mini deathstar.

Flaw 11, writers keep forgetting what the Resurgent can actually do, like how blowing up the bridge can't crash the ship because they have constantly manned back up bridges on standby buried deep in the hull.

Is Allen ok? It seems like his mental state is degrading more and more.

I think the Resurgence class was designed this way (large, imposing and vulnerable to Fighters) was because the First Order probably thought they wouldn't be fighting a small rebel fleet but a large, well funded New Republic Navy (See the NR Starhawk for an example) By the time the First order had the Resurgence class production under way, the New Republic was demilitarizing, and they prob couldn't shift their design philosophy on a dime, considering their state of operation.

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You have to remember that while turbolaser shots are fast they have no tracking and are not faster than light. If you shot at a target that is too far away they will just calculate the trajectory and move so it no longer hits. This means direct fire space combat has to happen up close

Well since ships can apparently jump to hyperspace in a planetary atmosphere now I suppose Interdictors aren't needed anymore

#1: Yes, the Resurgent class was very heavy regarding crew compliment, but the empire's navy was faaar larger in comparison and used far more personnel in total to crew such large vessels. Comparing the two using more reasonable numbers puts the Resurgent class as far less costly, also considering that it didnt have a long production run. #2: The same could be said for most all ships of almost every class. In Legends the Empire made dozens of super Star Destroyers and many other factions made larger and even more complex ships. Saying that this single ship needed specialists and not mentioning any other class - even in comparison - kinda implies a bias. #3: Maneuverability has always been a flaw with capital ships, but yes, size does play into it. The Venator class were smaller ships, 1,137 meters and acted more of carriers than dedicated star destroyers or in ship-to-ship battles. It is also about 2.56 times larger than the Venator and 1.82 times larger than an Imperial class Star Destroyer. At least try to bring in something of a similar size. #4: In case you never got it, the Imperials love big things: Big ships, big space stations, big weapons, big armies, big tanks, etc. The First Order was a large group of ex-imperials who banded together in the unknown regions and wanted to bring back the Empire in all its glory, and along with that came big ships (not to mention Palpatine, maybe he's compensating for something?). #5: This point can be made, yes but once again the Imperials before them had far more costly projects and ships and designs and most of them just end up getting completely destroyed anyway. The first Death Star blows up, build one slightly bigger but uh oh! That blows up too lets not salvage it and make more superweapons! There have been far more costly ships in the Star Wars universe both in canon and in legends, this one is tame compared to the rest. #6: You overlook the purpose of this ship, its a battlecruiser by design so its meant to take on other capital ships head on, not carry hundreds of fighter-craft. The Venator was more of a carrier, most of the entire front section of the ship was its hangar, and it rightly carried hundreds of starfighters. The Imperial 1 class had about 144 total starfighters of various types on board, yet it was larger than the Venator. The Resurgent had the same fighter compliment as the Imperial 1 class with addition of a light cruiser that could easily dock into the ship. It may have not specialized in fighter squadrons, but it brings its own to the table, not to mention that most of its starfighters had hyperdrives. #7: So did most Imperial craft and all Old Republic ships. It was still an experimental technology and it would provide far too big of a target for anyone who opposed the First Order. It sounds like you expect them to have it installed on every ship cause obviously the Imperials did the same to all of their capital ships, oh wait... #8: This has been an ongoing problem throughout all of Star Wars lore, legends/EU and new canon. The tech development progress in the galaxy is tortuously slow, with only a few big leaps in faster and larger ships made in just over 4000 years. This winds back to my allegation of a bias as you are singling it out specifically to the Resurgent class star destroyer as is the title and purpose of this video. Most al;l factions should have been able to do this for thousands of years, but alas they didnt and its a problem of logic in the lore. #9: ... ... ... ... ... Really? Thats the big gripe? This star destroyer didnt have planet cracking weapons? As it was more or less explained in 9, the First Order mainly served as a testbed and precursor for The Final Order, of which Palpatine was planning to integrate the First Order into. The Mandator 4 class dreadnought seen briefly in episode 8 was THE testbed for the planet killing weapons seen on the Xyston class star destroyers. Its also pretty obvious that planet killing superweapons need a shitload of power and only ships and vessels designed to produce that much energy could use and utilize those weapons properly, functionally, and sustainably. I know Im taking the list a bit too seriously, but these honestly seem very nitpicky and very small problems overall and you are making them seem like big problems. Im not living in a bubble, the Resurgent class does have its flaws, but the ones listed in the video are minor compared to its actual flaws, such as poor management of the ship's specialties, its fighter compliment to weaken enemies and then use the ship to finish them off, as well as pure intimidation factions of its sheer size. The First Order wanted to rule through fear and they did that pretty well, but they made some pretty bad choices that backfired on them spectacularly, but I wouldnt really count these among that list.

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They had a really good chance to show the remnants of the Empire in the new trilogy struggle, not having massive fleets, no SSDs or other dreadnoughts, small in number etc. Having to change the tactics and strategy to that similar to the Rebellion, except having superior tech. They really fucked up, idk who was in charge at Disney, but apparently not Faigey? the one that kind of or did make MCU so successful. Would of loved seeing a Rebel fleet chase the remnants of the Empire, doing crazy stuff trying to escape and running like chicken at the sight of Rebels, only to trap them etc.

It needed experienced commands he says, and then shows Hux...

The new ships from “The Rise of Skywalker” are classified as Xyston-class star destroyers, not modified imperial-1 destroyers.

With all these flaws highlighted, especially the massive resource requirements (i.e. massive labour requirements serviced by what can only described as the largest kidnapping operation and huge capital requirements), this does raise another question: How the hell did the New Republic not twig onto the massive rearmament going on? Even if it all occurs in the "Unknown Regions", surely the massive kidnapping campaign just to rebuild the First Order would have tripped massive security alarms across whatever intelligence apparatus the New Republic possessed?

I actually like this ship's design and I hope we see a redesign of by the NR in the future.

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There's another reason to duck into the nooks and crannies of the RCSD's overhang. TIE pilots won't try to shoot 'em because *they* could get into trouble for friendly fire deaths.

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Why Allen is playing the lego jedi starfighter? At 0:00

The square cube law makes larger space ships more practical. You get thicker armor and more space for less weight the larger the ship is.

I love Alan just being in the background.

Most of the reasons you reason's listed here, while accurate, are situational and are not inherent design flaws.

what some don't understand is that the Resurgent Star Destroyer may have over 1500 turbo lasers and alot of other weapons but the Resurgent has a huge flaw, the ship uses a separate generators for weapons so if the main reactor goes down the weapons still work, this may seem like a good thing if the weapon generators weren't located in the overhang and extremely exposed to star fighters, so if you take out the generators the entire ship has to rely on Stat fighters for attack and defense

Maybe because it looks like two cheese wedges put on top of each other with an engine strapped to it

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dude the lip sync of of murican ben with ackbar is amazing 0:05 noticed just now when rewatching the video

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You make good points. I would design a smaller, more efficient design. I would incorporate the best qualities of the Venator class, Mon Calamari cruiser, and the Imperial class star destroyer. I would call it the Centurion class star destroyer. It would be 1200 meters long, have a diverse weapons complement, have a good starfighter complement, a large troop capacity, and a well defended bridge.

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Nicely done Allen. That really makes me laugh while Ben just talking about Star Wars stuff. Middle finger in the background at 1:50

My theory is that the shipyards made the resurgence bad was to fuel demand from both sides of the war.

Good points Ben. Heck, even the Donnager could house a pair of escort frigates like the Tachi/Rocinante. Why a Resurgent Class didn’t carry a few picket ships that it could use to establish a continuing presence in a system when it had to go elsewhere and then return makes no sense.

I find it great that whenever they falk about the star destroyer line that the conversation always seems go back to the Venator. It wasnt the biggest or most powerful ship. But it was probably the most practical in terms of having a large number of starfighters and powerful turbo lasers, that while few in numbers could attack from long range and with heavy firepower. Id actual love to see a venator with a full fighter complement go up against a resurgent class ship.

I love you Allen. Nice video American Ben

Great video and I love the awesome design.

Allen please make Ben notdo any Star Wars content you're the true master of Star Wars

3:32 For the first flaws and skip the sponsership

#9 is negated by episode 8, where we see a relatively short distance still render massive cannons ineffective.

the first 2 flaws were right when we talk about the first order. but imagine this beautys in the hands of the empire. palpatine for sure would love to have the resurgent class in his galactic fleet

Don't forget the guns. The amount of guns are almost the same as an Executor class SSD. With the amount of gun ports it runs the risk magazine detonation. Even in the Battle of Courscant you see magazine detonations on a Venator SD when they were exchanging broadsides with Providence Dreadnoughts.

The Star Wars Galaxy is going to run out of habitable planets with the sudden advancements in Planet killing weapons.

Well, the planet cracking weapons needed kyber crystals and the best source of those was Illum, which was strip mined to make weapons for the 1st Order and the shadow fleet. Have to find another planet with lots of those crystals again or find out how Luke made his synthetic crystal work.

If I was creating or rebuilding an Empire, I'd take the Venators that still aren't scrapped, repair them, upgrade the hell out of them, and give them as many long-range missile launchers as I can. Of course, the fighters would essentially be F-4 Phantom IIs, as well as F-14s.

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Excellent, Ben. The First Order is just implausible in my opinion. Maybe do a video on how unlikely it is that they are so ridiculously powerful given the state the Imperial Remnant was in and how difficult it was to survive in the unknown region. I guess the films needed a villain so they had to take some liberties with believablity but my gripe has always been that they didn't even try to explain it. The First Order is a thing now... deal with it.

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It's still the coolest ship to come out of the sequels. The Raddus is underpowered and undergunned, the Supremacy was just silly, the new ship in Rise looks almost identical to an ISD-1 so it doesn't count, and don't get me started on the SF17 bomber.

Omg haha you got some iron will, American Ben. I couldn't keep a straight face with the background activity

I enjoyed this video....... In the beginning Alan had me cracking up...... Ben how were you able to maintain composure....... And you are right about everything you said about the RCSD.........

If what he said was true about losing a resurgent then when they lost all those ships in the last Jedi they might be taken back alot

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This is new republic propaganda. The resurgent class Star destroyers are almost perfect. The most major flaw it has is that it doesn't have enough bathrooms

I really like the designed of the Resurgent Class because it is so refined unlike the previous SD line, the only downside is that like all any other contemporary SD line it lack turrets on its ventral and dorsal hull which can be placed with various turrets that would make it more powerful.

Ben at 12:55: long range battles wouldn't be cool The expanse: hold my beer

It does look bigger than it needs to be. The idea of Grav-Well generators on a ship that size makes a ton of sense. It would not likely be alone and a smaller escort version of ship means less crew/resources. They could have kept the Imperial SD Relocate its bridge and upgrade its weapons package and do fine.

I would say you are partly correct about ship to ship battles taking place over a greater distance, but disagree with the scope. The theoretical doctrines of space warfare borrow heavily from naval warfare, and on the seas most naval battles take place near strategic or other valuable targets on land, for the main reason that it is way easier to find your opponent there. Space, even more so than the sea, is too big to be able to effectively scan for opponents without sophisticated networks of satellites, outposts and smaller vessels. Like in real life, these would be fairly easy to disrupt, either through ECM's or out right destruction, with both taking large chunks of resources to protect. Therefore Capital Ship Space Warfare would be restricted by the same constraints as Naval Warfare, the incentives would be to engage in decisive battle over a strategic or valuable target as you know that's where your enemy will be (or at least turn up to defend if you attack). This limits the incentive to build weapons which target capital ships out of their line of sight (i.e. in this case a system). So in that sense I disagree with you. Though I agree that the First Order's lack of innovation was a flaw, as they did not respond to the Fighter based strategy which the Resistance inherited from the Rebellion. This fighter strategy allowed the Resistance to deliver fire power from a greater (so there for safer when taking into account Empire/FO strategy, tactics and operational assets) distance. This is where the First Order could have extended their weapons range. Big capital ships would specialise as Carriers and/or missile platforms, negating the fighter tactics of the resistance, while cruiser size vessels would provided as escorts, short and medium firepower and general multi role capability. Smaller, frigate and destroyer size vessels serve as specialists, such as picket line defence, or armoured hulks to charge down resistance capital ships at close range if needed. Heavily armoured assault carriers combining a marine regiment, short range weapons and a balanced flight wing would be able serve dual role as a planetary assault vessel or close quarters space fight, if the latter is ever called upon. The end result of this would be a longer engagement range within a system.

The Resurgent probably had a basic complement of fighters and vessels, so they had to carry less crews due to personnel shortages and use fewer resources on long term missions. In full wartime it was possibly capable of more than tripling its fighter and shuttle numbers at the cost of operational deployment before having to resupply.

wasn't the resurgent star destroyer made as a home base. Since the first order didn't have a main home base planet. Also seen in the TROS the resurgent star destroyer main command bridge was destroyed and still plummeted to the ground. Even though its secondary is still in tact.

#0- Disney designed the ships so that the good guys, who mainly fly starfighters, would win. Giving the Revengeance a logical design and weapons to better protect themselves against such ships defeats the purpose of the narrative.

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"Long rang battle is less cool". The Expanse: Hold my beer ...

Dammit Allen we talked about this

Never understood why star wars ship builders were obsessed with exposed bridges. Having a sub bridge is okay but why make your command deck so exposed that it is necessary to have one? having a viewing deck is fine, but bridges should be in the bowels of the ship where they would be well protected.

I'd argue the biggest problem with the Resurgent-Class wasn't the ship itself but the doctrine it was used for. The Resurgent, by its size and functionality, is a Battlecruiser (essentially a low level Dreadnought) yet it is used like a ship-of-the-line. A Battlecruiser operates as an anchor to a fleet, providing tremendous firepower and support from a distance, but requiring a screening from smaller ships. This is why the Resurgent struggles in its duties as it was not built for those purposes.

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It does make you wonder why they spent time and money building the dreadnought capitol ship when the Resurgent was more than capable of blasting a planets surface into glass all on it's own

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In The Force Awakens, the guided missiles were not activated and fired until Gen. Huks told them to. The crew should have already been on it. In other places in Star Wars movies the captains had to tell someone what to do, like in episode 1, the captain said "shields', instead of flipping the switch. She won't make that lazy mistake again.

7:00 the amount of guns the ship has is ridiculous. With that many it's entire surface would have been covered with it and it could produce a bullet hell that could take on anything. It's more like the creators don't have any lick of sense and just throw things in it to make it look cool.

Your kinda off on the first one. Yes there bigger ships, and they need a lot of man power, but the First Order mechanically operated alot of their systems to cut down on crew numbers. So all in all, the ships needed about the same or less crew then an imperial star destroyer

You confuse the Designers of an Ominous Looking Massive Movie ship with the Engineers of a functional spacecraft. That ship was eye candy only.

I like how much firepower the resurgent-class has.

Wonder what happened to that back-up bridge during TROS?

There are no flaws with the Resurgent - Class!! Move along!!

I think we see star destroyers shoot it out, face to face, because of their shields. Long distance weapons fire is stopped by their energy and particle shields. When a Starfighter fires on a Star Destroyer, they do so from very close range. The fighters always fire from INSIDE of the capital ship’s shields. I suspect that this is also the case with capital ships facing off. They, too, have to get inside of the enemy ship’s shields.

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About the trenches on the Resurgent being a weakness - sure, I think on the surface they're an issue, but if you look closely, you can tell there's this odd truss / net pattern supporting the lips of the overhang. This leads me to theorize it could be a 'trap' of sorts. Wait for enemy fighters to fly into the trench, then execute evasive maneuvers or a change in speed to have the fighters collide with the sides of the overhang. Although this could be done with almost any star destroyer, the 'net' or 'webbing' along the Resurgent leads me to believe it's actually a tertiary defense against star fighters beyond its own fighters and point-defense guns.

i watched your top 10 last resort super weapons and you forgot starkiller base.

13:00 One reason for that is that none of these ships are battleships. They're still destroyers (for some reason) despite kind of being carriers and from size and role, it's much closer to a battlecruiser. Its basically a redesigned Allegiance class, which would make sense if they employed it like one.

13:30 Hell in Star Trek the babies have planet crackers and that's a relatively "nice" universe.

Having a fleet of ships with weapons that could destroy a planet was one of the things I hated about the last movie. To be honest the power requirements of such a weapon should be astronomical and would likely end up making the ship extremely vulnerable when used due to the power drain on the ships systems. It would have to be mostly power generators and engines. This also does not explain why the weaknesses of the Original IMP class star destroyers were not rectified in the newer design. Sheild generators were still very vulnerable to attack etc.

The Empire's hard-on was for 'Make it big and menacing' not ' Practical and effective'

#7 is a bit misleading. Yes, the much smaller Venator Class carried 420 starfighters. However, even if you triple, even if you increase the Venator's armament 10 times, it does not reach the halfway point to what the Resurgence has. The Resurgence Class is an absurd ship and the weapon counts i believe is just Canon playing around. The reason how the Rebel Alliance one against the Empire? No point defense cannons. New ship has 1,500 point defense cannon, Resistance doesn't change strategy because they literally can't, opps bye bye. A single on of these Resurgences could take on and win against anything the Resistance could throw at it. Well then, that's my rant finished, I still liked the video so thanks, and thank you for listening to my Ted Talk

11:52 My hypothesis as to why there is a lack of long range ordinance in the star wars is because they would just be easily defeated by current countermeasure technology in the star wars universe. If an attacking ship were to launch a long range project at sublight speeds , the targeted faction would be able to detect the incoming assault via long range sensors and take evasive action by either escaping into hyperspace, shooting down the incoming projectiles, or activating a disruptive emp field well in advance. Therefore, space combat necessitates close range battles in order to avoid a stalemate.

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The whole lack of interdictor capability is really nothing. Look at the hyperspace skipping they were doing in the rise of sky walker. They have thrown out the whole can’t light speed in gravity wells thing.

Star destroyers get a rough time due to plot. In TFA the resurgence has point defence weaponry that takes out the tie fighter at point blank range. The new Republic was doomed to failure, they failed to notice a ship builder building massive military ships without someone asking why.

That tenth flaw was a spoiler(rise of the sky walkers), but that’s one of the reasons I liked those star destroyers better, since not all the star destroyers had one and would like a video on them. It’s not been since the legends era we had other ships that could d-(almost spilled it) could do this!!!

The hands of a wreck less pilot? Were these ships piloted by a single person!?!?

So, it's mostly a logistical and structural problem.

8:05 A mistake in the word "targeTing".

The lack of planet cracking weapons isn't really an issue. Remember that each if these Resurgent star destroyers not only carry 25 times the number of turbo lasers an Imperial II did, but each if them wa more powerful than those on the Imperial II's, so a resurgent class SD should be capable of slagging an entire planet in short order. Estimates on how long it would take an Imperial class SD to execute a base delta zero bombardment range from a couple hours, to a full day, but since the resurgent carrys 25 times as many turbolasers, and each is considerable more powerful then thevolder ships, it should be able to slag a planet in less than an hour. If more than one ship is involved, it would be considerable less. Now one last thing to consider, about a base delta zero attack is that it wouldn't need to turn the entire surface of a planet into molten slag, since as soon as it started the attack would cause massive geologic and tectonic activity resulting massive destroying in areas across the entire planet, even those untouvhed by the bombardment. The asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs, and most other living creatures on the planet, did so while only striking a fairly small area, and while the shots from the SD would be much smaller, there would literally ge 10's of thousand of shots in a very short period of time.