What did you hate about old DBD?

Don't Forget That Hooks Did Not Respawn When Sabotaged Back Then! People Could Just Sabo Every Hook On The Map Leaving The Only Useable Ones Being The Basement Since They Can't Be Sabotaged. It Was So Bad That Iron Grasp And Agitation Were Considered Meta Back Then!

One thing abt old dbd that was good is the old artstyle. It had a unique charm to it.

On topic of the hatch bit, I remember years ago I had a game as survivor where we finished all gens; instead of leaving some guy told me to follow him only for all 4 of us to find and escape through the hatch, I still have the 4-hatch escape achievement saved on my ps4 to remind me that it was a real event that occurred

i think when people refer to old dbd they dont mean 2016-2017 i think they mean more towards the 3rd anniversary to the 4th. as someone who was around for the 4th anniversary i do miss that old version of dbd.

I miss 2019 dbd

Just to clear something up, Medium Vaults existed since the very beginning, its just that fast vaults didnt require a minimum distance or a specific angle to hit it. This was changed a bit later in 2016 The change you posted was simply the updated medium vault animation that is actually the same one as today, (as the old animation looked janky, as with everything from back then) and they buffed medium vaults to be faster

but what you have to remember was is this was back in a time when both killer nor survivor cared about balance and generally looping wasn’t a major aspect of the game, not until a a few months to a year later was it truly incorporated into survivors strategies. moreover, this focuses more on the balance of the old state which yes is a significant factor as to why it wasn’t the most fun game it could’ve been, but the horror aspect (which is literally in the games description “asymmetrical horror game”) was there, which was funner than the “horror” the game is now.

You forgot saboed hooks never returned, everyone had to get slugged and if you had an exit gate opened it was praying and juggling the survs

When people say they miss old dbd, they mean pre 2021 dbd. With the majority of players missing the pre graphical changes and the bad chapters that came after. I miss 2019 dbd. I know just how broken some perks were, but the game had more soul. Saying these problems (in the video) were problems presistant in 2016 to 2017 dbd. Not the DBD that most people entered the game into (what people say is the old dbd). Most players just miss the soul that the game had when they first played, not what dbd has become now.

I liked the old hatch opening mechanic, it was cool to have a silly optional objective late in games. In probably 200-300 games I only ever saw it interacted with in maybe 5 of them? Or 10? And probably half of those was one or two dudes leaving, leaving the rest behind lol. Ofc hatch standoffs were dumb and bad, but that's a player issue. DC and go next, wasting time over a hatch is just pointless. Edit: I'd love to see the old hatch spawn mechanic come back in 3-gen situations where nobody is downed or hooked after like 5-10 minutes. That'd be funny.

Games still in a pretty crappy place now for sure but I remember having to deal with the old hatch standoffs, juggling DS survivors, and infinite recharging sprint bursts of the time too, I think the biggest thing was I miss the mindset most of the playerbase of DBD had at the time, cause the majority of the playerbase just didn’t realize the power they had back then.

I miss Old DBD because old DH, Boon circle of healing, DS, Locker saves, Flashlight clicking but unfortunately killer mains cried to much and ruined it

Ok but it's about 2016/2017 dbd (except for the hatch) i miss 2018 dbd 😔

You forgot about the Hook Sabotage squads, only hooks available at mid-late game were the Basement ones hahahaha

Medium vaults have existed for way longer, the change log you showed is just for a new animation

I forget, but didn’t Prove Thyself also stack with no downside and gens could be done around 40% faster when it was still the old 60 second time.

I wouldn’t mind a separate game mode where every perk is overpowered for both the killers and survivors. If everything is overpowered then everything is fair.

kinda miss the old dbd thb, darkes maps and mind gaming in the grass

can still remember when back in the day iron grasp was the god send in the bloodwebs that BBQ was before the bp bonus removal..

well someone had the balls to say it!

I think you missed the hooks used to not reset after a sabotage so if you had a bunch of people run saboteur you could never hook anybody unless you managed to get em in the basement, oh and trapper traps could be sabotaged too

I will say that I do like the old hatch better. (Spawn wise, not standoff) I found it decently satisfying using the key on the hatch. Nowadays it's near impossible to use a key for it actual intent. The only was to use it now is to be the last survivor remaining and the hatch must be closed. Extremely rare and makes the keys lose some of their use because why waste your time looking for a closed hatch when the exit doors are powered? In my opinion, it should spawn only when all gens are completed if you ask me, not that other 'complicated' way. Great vid btw.

One thing i miss in old but not that old dbd as survivor. That the hatch would spawn after a curtain time and you could open it with the key... now the key is pretty useless.

0:23 this phrase alone shook me to my core

Me as a survivor main in modern DbD either being tunneled, proxy camped or slugged every game or watching my team get tunneled, proxy camped or slugged every game :P

That's right being a killer main in 2023 is so much better. Whole teams queing with the solo intention of flashlight looping the killer until the killer closes the game. Ppl spamming flame turrets vs the alien to make him a powerless killer who can't handle chases and loops. Waiting at the exit gate until the killer comes to spam t bag him. T bagging everywhere. Hate messages from sore losers and winners. Everyone running boiled over to prevent killer from walking to a hook, throwing him into a wall or rock. Flashlight camping downed teamates. Says a lot when the flashlight being disabled to stop the locker fazing glitch was the most healthiest time we've had in DBD in a minute

Dang but the graphics seem better back then than they do nowadays

The hatch change was borderline ridiculous and so disappointing, being able to close it is good, but the setup with it spawning considering the gen to survivor ratio was so good, the killer or a survivor could gain an idea of where it is for when there is just one person left, so it wouldn't be a random chance of whoever finds it first in the endgame, the keys are now useless and work 90% less of the time, and it just takes away from the game for no reason, it wasn't OP, unbalanced, anything, was just fun and made well

Old dbd: better physics

I know its not something that can be fixed but i miss when the game was scary and mysterious

The only things I miss about the good old days of DBD is Stranger Things and Attack On Titan cosmetics.

Back then to be a good Killer main you must be a Chad guy

wasn’t better but it was far more fun

imagine how much more content and balance we could have in this game if dbd devs and others above could actually understand balance back then especially i swear it took them like 4 full years of just reworking their mistakes and mess ups of making things OP like i swear do these idiots even play the game.

You forgot no end game timer

What’s that trap perk at 1:15

You forgot when survivors were able to 99 all hooks with aaboteur

Its alot more killer sidded more than ever

nah , old dbd mutch better even with the milion bugs on it that the one we have now.The ''new'' dbd is killer have power, killer press power , survivor die .Literally every killer released after oni has been like that , a power that is so insane on antiloop that there is no point to even try loop , just pressing W is more efficient .Why we have pallets and windows in the game that you cant use or u get hit , im starting to believe windows and pallets are for killers

Those killers that think old DBD was better are into being tortured it seems, because the game was downright unplayable for killers lmao idk how anyone would wanna go back to that, insta blinds, insta heals, insta gen pops, pallet vacuum, Borrowed time on both unhooked and the one doing the unhook, OLD DS, all those things make current DBD look like a perfect game lmao

Not going to lie I remember the two gen hatch from way back where a group just needed a rainbow map and a skeleton key and just gen rush the two and immediately look for the hatch and escape with everyone it was interesting to say the least

Old DBD make me the main killer I am now, I still playing with the feeling they will gen rush me in less that a minute XD and that help me to use the map to my advantage

That was pain! Dont forget non respawn hook😢

dont forget that you could pull off an insta heal on yourself while you were downed if you timed it perfectly

8:52 Of course it always has to be Claudette coz why not!

Also you forgot about unhooked and never spawned back again or destroyed traps, self-heal, moonlights offers, splinters offers, survivors perks and killers perks mixing bug.

Literally not a single person who says old DbD was better has in mind year 1 of the game. For me, around 3-4 year mark was easily the best time for DbD as it required much more skill from both sides.

Missing honorable mention like perma sabo that was craze

aint no way any killer main said old dbd was better cut the cap. i could type out a very long list on how completely unfair and not fun it was for killers, but any who actually played the game already knows.

Damn I never play the old dbd now I understand killers being a survivor main definitely was much easier back and plus with perks like ds and dead hard man just too broken

0:08 Oh yeah, Rost... He's the type of "killer mains" (He's actually not) who will say that DH rework was unneeded, and Snowmans from Winter Event 2021 were fun.

And survivors want to complain about the game being "killer sided" these days.

now we only got tunneling pig…

Very good!

Darker maps are only things i ask 😢

no bloodlust too

Bonus: Hooks Gone Forever, Sabo'ed Hooks Used To Never Come Back Meaning You Only Had Basement Hooks...

too much balance makes the game boring its like in fighting games there’s always guna be a top tier no matter what imagine if every character played like ryu there would be no player expression thats why it sucks when they take out stuff you can do that requires skill like chucky 180 flicks

Damn I’m glad I didn’t play at the very beginning 😳

This video gave me too much ptsd

It was so bad but damn I had fun I'm ngl

This video is just a killer main saying how he hated things about survivor mains back in the day. I’m a killer main saying this😂

Over half of these are from the first 6-8 months of the game. I'd say peak dead by daylight would be 2018-2019, where the only bad things in the game would be infinities.

I recently got grabbed off a hatch by Wesker just as I finished unlocking it and was about to jump in 😄 Instant flashbacks to old DBD. A guy in our SWF got into a hatch stand-off with a Wraith, told us to go play a match without him - and was still in it when we finished. That Wraith ended up relenting first. Peanuts compared to the examples you've given in the video - but still. If only DBD had tournaments for pettiness... I got grabbed off a hatch by a Clown who faked out hitting me by using his bottle throwing animation - and I was too impatient to wait to actually lose a health state. I went to do gens because a Myers was camping hatch (we had like 2 left, I think). I got distracted while repairing, he found me and killed me. Another Myers was chasing me while I had a key. I accidentally ran across the hatch and insta-unlocked it. Was this objectively worse than what we have now? Definitely. But it did create some memorable situations. I remember the Ghostface PTB. The sorry state of his power at first aside, Badham had holes in it. You'd jump in and fall back onto the map from the sky. You could land on tables, or even containers. There was another PTB where going into the basement sent you into a void: you'd just be stuck perpetually falling into emptiness. There was the bug where survivors would get stuck at hill corners. I still occasionally rewatch Krugozor's "Dead by Daylight 4.5.0 PTB In a Nutshell" - that was the PTB where they introduced new UI and new animations. Such a beautiful mess. Old Haddonfield was one of my favourite maps as survivor because I simply liked the way it looked (hated Badham then, hate it now). But then I tried playing it as killer. Mother of God.... (⌐■_■) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (•_•) I'm sorry, killer mains, that map was an abomination. Still miss its aesthetics though. DBD has come a long way. Hindsight is always 20:20, and it will be interesting to see what about today's DBD will be seen the same way we see lack of gen regression a few years from now ( _cough_ MFT _cough_ ). But I honestly don't think all the content creators going on about old DBD unironically believe that the game was better from a technical perspective. What was better was their experiences, how they felt playing the game - not necessarily facilitated by busted perks and map design - and that's what they miss. It's called getting old, my sweet summer children, get used to it ;) I do miss the old flashlight animation though. Little crabbies.

1.0.0 And other

You forgot to mention pallets and window vacuums, and the only thing why old dbd was better is there is no SWF at release version, only KYF

Old dbd had a lot of quirks and imbalance, still better than current dbd tho. At least the old dbd had aesthetics and feeling.

Old dbd was better was actually a horror game then but it was way more survivor friendly for sure

old dbd was better!

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for me this video was.... 10 reasons why old dbd was better.. a lot more fun...

Yea old dbd was so fucked only o e thing was okay was old dead hard he was balanced not now when he is broken and is for noobs

blud is just crying lmao

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Old dbd was fun. This iteration is full of tryhards that have watched one too many KZfaq videos

Old dbd was way more fun. Your opinion is of the minority but I respect it either way.

old dbd was better visual wise

Killer mains are saying old dbd was good? 😂 I call bs on that statment.

I mean it sucks even now lol. For just different reasons.

Ah yes, the old hatch mechanic sucked because survivors that play well shouldn't be allowed an easy escape

That's me!

Whenever i say old dbd is better, i mean the graphics and the animations. I really miss the old animations and the graphics. Everything u showed in the videos, is a mistakes that devs did. U cannot do anything without mistakes.

Yeah you complain to much get better

This guy talks like xqc

Old hatch mechanic was better 😤

That's why, dbd 2020 was the best moment of the game In My opinión of course