Now I want a list of the dumbest villain plans

The Silence's plan to create a weapon to kill the Doctor was pretty unique. Probably not great, but fun to watch them fail.

When I was a kid, I always got scared when the monsters or characters looked towards the camera, I felt like they could see me. I finally managed to shake that feeling, and then Sleep No More came out. Scared the absolute hell out of me.

It wasn't really Rassilon who was the villian in the Five Doctors. It was Borrussa. He wanted Immortality and tried to use the Doctor and the Master to get it.

The Monks story gets becomes creepier when you think of the pandemic

The Master in general has some of the smartest villain plans. The Master which comes to mind the most is Derek Jacobi because of how capable he is at manipulating people and situations (listen to The War Master and you'll know). I think the whole plan in Sound of the Drums is also worth a mention.

There's an in joke in the 10th Doctor era where Martha posits the Master might be the Doctor's brother. This was RTD's cheeky reference to that _originally_ being the case. Roger Delgado's untimely car accident in Turkey was a tragedy beyond words. He will always be *THE* Master. Originally there was to be another story with he and the 3rd Doctor revealing they were indeed siblings... this storyline obviously fell through with Delgado's passing.

I'd forgotten some of the details of these Villain's plans, definitely time for some rewatches

My thinking on Cybermen at least as portrayed in New Who is that they require your permission to turn you fully in to one but that permission can be coerced. The Brigadier never consented because he's the type of cool old guy who'd read the Terms and Conditions in full before clicking yes

'Villainy' is a matter of perspective... Perhaps not an exact fit for this list, but certainly related, is the Doctor's own plan which culminated in Remembrance of the Daleks: a ploy devised from at least the 'first' incarnation, this was a long game that would result in an inter-temporal civil war that triggered a self-imposed genocide of the Dalek race (or so we thought).

Missy was AMAZING!!!

Thanks Ellie , you brightened up a not so great day at work.

I don't see sleep as a waste of time, because we all need to rest and I'm a vivid dreamer, so I often get ideas from those dreams. The surviving Mona Lisa is not a fake, it's a copy done by the original artist, rather than a pupil of the artist, which was a common practice during the Renaissance.

Loved the adipose idea, would have bought the pill for me missus… 😊

Slitheen: "It's nothing personal, it's just business"

Shoutout to the Xyloc's scheme. For a kids spin off, that was a pretty complex and near unstoppable master plan and talk about playing the long game.

What about the aliens in Doctor Mysterio (don’t remember what they were) the whole “they will come running” was genius

I think you forgot the part where Missy was the entire reason Clara met the Doctor in the first place :)

Good fun video, The Tomb of the Cybermen in which the Cybermen lay traps for the unsuspecting leading to them coming back having disappeared.

I loved the Adipose, they were cute and friendly, they were only herded out. I would have loved to have one having it come out of me would of been nice to get rid of a few pounds. LOL

As a classic who fan first, I love how there's a good mix of classic and new who plots

A Friday is not right unless I see #WhatCulture and The Elegance in Elocution, Ellie Littlechild 💖

Tbf tho miss foster's idea didn't hurt anyone, if she went about it differently and got consent it would've been fine

I wouldn't mind spawning a few Adipose to get rid of excess fat. Tell me what to expect up front and I'll gladly sign up! Not for the second part of the plan where I died by turning into Adipose, but a few is fine.

Here are some more examples, courtesy of TV Tropes' Magnificent Bastard page on the Whoniverse: Third Doctor: "The Ambassadors of Death": Reegan is a polite, dry-witted career criminal and mercenary hired by General Carrington to implement his plan, who proves to be far smarter and more capable than his employer. Abducting the alien ambassadors, Reegan kills two of his men with their radiation and dumps the bodies with false papers, framing foreign spies for the kidnapping. Luring Liz out with a fake message Reegan kidnaps her and when later ordered to kill the Doctor, Reegan pegs a weak link in conspiracy and tricks him into setting off a bomb hoping to take them both out. Implementing every step of Carrington's plan, Reegan successful forces the ambassadors to carry out attacks then escape before anyone can react. Attempting to stop the Doctor getting into space, Reegan sneaks into the space centre posing as an engineer, disables everyone in his way, sabotages the rocket and escapes before anyone notices. Then upon his return he manages to successfully kidnap the Doctor from right under Unit's noses. Reegan reveals he plans to abandon Carrington, and instead use the aliens to perform robberies, as between his strategic brilliance and their raw power no one on earth could stop them robbing even Fort Knox or the Bank of England. "Invasion of the Dinosaurs": Sir Charles Grover is an extremely affable minister in the British government who plans to create a new world free from humanity's pollution. Helping to co-ordinate an evacuation of London by having his right-hand man Whitaker send in dinosaurs to clear the population. Grover convinces the best and brightest of humanity to follow him into bunkers while making them think it's instead a colonization trip to another planet. Instead, Grover plans to journey with them into the prehistoric era and create a new perfect world. Grover constantly covers himself from any problems such as framing the Doctor as the Dinosaur summoner or kidnapping Sarah Jane Smith to bring her to his side. Determined to bring about a utopia even at the cost of resetting all of humanity, Grover proves to be one of the most charming of the Doctor's foes. Professor Whitaker is the right-hand man of Sir Charles Grover and a brilliant scientist who invented time travel technology. Whitaker sends dinosaurs into London to clear it of people to allow Grover to be able to create his utopia. Ruthless when it comes to dealing with threats, Whitaker manipulates Mike Yates into setting up the near death of the Doctor via T-Rex and later plays as a victim to bring the doctor to an area where the transport is occurring to frame him as the Dinosaur summoner. Even when captured, Whitaker is able to escape and then tries to jettison the creation of the new world by resetting the old one being defeated only by seconds. Fourth Doctor: "The Stones of Blood": Cessiar of Diplos is an intergalactic professional criminal and possibly an agent of the Black Guardian. Arrested for numerous crimes, including stealing the Key to Time's third segment of and three Orgi, she manages to take control of the ship and escapes to Earth. Using her advanced tech and manipulative skills, Cessair tricked the Celts into worshiping her as the Callieach and training the Orgi to obey her. Using multiple invented identities for four thousand years she retains absolute power over her fiefdom. In the present she continues to rule the area from behind the scenes using a sect of modern druids. Warned the Doctor is coming, Cessiar orders the druids to dispose of him and taking his form she lures Romana to a cliff's edge and pushes her off. Using the Orgi to wipe out the druids when they fail, Cessiar traps Romana and after giving the Doctor a chance to leave her be, lures him onto the prison ship then traps him with the Orgi. Her plan only failing due to the Megara's intervention, Cessair manipulates them, coming within a hair's breadth of having them kill the Doctor. "The Androids of Tara": Count Grendel of Gracht is a ingenious, powerful Aristocrat who will stop at nothing to become King of Tara. Drugging his mens' wine, Grendel kidnaps Prince Reynant to ensure he will miss his coronation, forfeiting his right to the throne. Having his soldiers replace the Imperial Palace guards and his agents infiltrate the crowds to make it appear the people support his claim, Grendel ensures the Archimandrite will have to choose him, preparing to fake reluctance to win over the other nobles. Foiled by the Doctor and an android duplicate of the Prince, despite his android assassin backup plan also failing, Grendel nevertheless manages postpone the coronation and nearly manages to kill the Doctor. When Romana escapes his clutches, Grendel personally rides into Reynant's base with the flag of truce and destroys the duplicate of Reynart before recapturing Romana and escaping. Forcing Romana to impersonate Princess Strella, Grendel tricks the Archimandrite into believing Reynant is dying and wants to marry before it's too late, planning to afterwards marry her and become king. Defeated after a lengthy duel with the Doctor, Grendel dives into his moat and manages to swim to safety, escaping into the night. Tenth Doctor: The Cult of Skaro, an elite group of Daleks tasked to "think as the enemy thinks", display some very brilliant minds among their ranks: Dalek Sec is the original leader of the Cult of Skaro and arrived in London, 2007 via the Void. Declaring war on the invading Cybermen, Sec has the Doctor and his allies activate the Ark for him, freeing the millions of Daleks trapped within. When Sec's attempts to stop the Doctor from reopening a breach fail he escapes with a temporal shift, being transported to Manhattan, 1930, where Sec supplements the Dalek's failing embryo experiments by including humans in their work, even using himself as a test subject to become a "human-Dalek" hybrid via fusion. His human emotions causing him to abandon the rampantly xenophobic nature of Daleks, Sec orders his fellow Daleks to not harm the Doctor and sacrifices his life when they refuse to listen to his reasoning. Just as Sec warned, facing the Doctor leads to the destruction of the bigoted Daleks and Sec is remembered as the "cleverest Dalek ever" by his former foe. Dalek Caan is the second leader of the Cult of Skaro and a skilled master manipulator. Caan helps to manipulate Mr. Diagoras into organizing the creation of the Empire State Building to help create new Dalek Hybrids. When his master Sec starts to have a change of heart, Caan secretly launches a coup against him and supplants him as leader of the cult while preparing to invade New York having changed the formula to turn the hybrids 100% Dalek. Caan later escapes and saves Davros from the Time War in order to rebuild his kind. Upon witnessing the Time stream, Caan witnesses all the evil of his species and sets about destroying them for good to atone for what he did. Playing as a Laughing Mad prophet, Caan manipulates Davros into his undoing and secretly manipulates the timelines into ensuring the creation of the "Meta-Crisis Doctor" and Doctor Donna who could stop Davros' omnicidal intentions. Manipulating the Meta-Crisis Doctor into wiping out Dalek Kind, Caan succeeds at everything he wanted and is fine with dying aboard the ship in complete dignity. "The Sontaran Stratagem" & "The Poison Sky": General Staal "The Undefeated" is a Sontaran general who wants to win a 50,000 year long war with a rival species known as the Rutans. Staal manipulates Luke Rattigan into helping him design an automobile system called ATMOS, which will release poison gas while creating human clone soldiers that will be used as weapons to win the war. Staal lures in several UNIT soldiers to be hypnotized before having them capture and sedate Martha Jones, using a clone of her to help disable UNIT's nuclear missile, preventing the air from being cleared of the ATMOS gas. When the Doctor ends up foiling Staal's plan, Staal simply resorts to the basic Sontaran invasion stratagem which will serve as an act of victory. When the Doctor threatens to blow up the Sontaran ship, which will kill Staal and his soldiers, Staal happily allows the Doctor to do so as long as Staal gets the final victory.

This is complete premise of "Turn Left". Donna made the wrong decision, The Doctor died during what SHOULD have been "The Runaway Bride" because Donna wasn't there to tell him "You can stop now!", and then all the events of the following year happened to Earth's detriment.

Whatchmojo set a challenge to find a plan which wouldn't have succeeded and beet the challenge The Dalek's in roses era Without the doctor rose wouldn't have touched the dalek freeing it and rose wouldn't have touched the genesis ark opening it

Sleep No More reminds me of The Usual Suspects. For all we know, Rassmussen made up the entire story just to keep people watching.

10. I don't think they were gonna do emergency pathogenesis if the doctor didn't arrive

I know for a fact I wasn't the only one who rubbed my eyes during the sleep no more entry

If Miss Foster just hadn't gotten greedy, she probably could have *told* people exactly what happened to that lost pound of fat, showed them how adorable the baby Adipose are, and had a long-term voluntary mutualistic relationship with humans. I know I wouldn't mind turning some of my extra pounds into baby Adipose, as long as it didn't do any harm!

5:08 yes but it was also the one that almost killed Sarah Jane

RIP Miss Foster!

TBH if the doctor didnt interfere, the adipose plan would have worked fine for the humans of earth too

And Now for something completely differant. It's the City of Death.

I really enjoyed the plot line of the series 2 episode The Idiot's Lantern. Poor Mr Magpie being forced by the Wire to sell his televisions cheap to as many people as possible so that on the day of the queen's coronation, the Wire could use the signal from all the tvs to feast on the brains of the thousands of people watching. And she would have got away with it if it wasn't for the tenth doctor, rose, and tommy connelly! 😊

Time Travel experiments are definitely not cheaper, just ask Doc Brown...

0:48 nah, Miss foster lost, remember? Her Bosses dropped her off of a building

The monk trilogy is my faveroute dr who story

New slogan... "Ozempic... as a diet plan, it sorta' works..." ;-P

So, Davros invented Soylent Green? And the Monks created COVID-19?

I think the monk story is underrated.

you missed the master's plan in world enough and time

I still say that the Flux can be controlled, say, with some kind of capacitor... ;-P

What about the silence? They tried and did kill the doctor

The "dust" in your eyes after sleeping actually are creatures so... 😕

come on;- you are english, you know that is queen elisibeth tower and that big ben is just the bell inside it!

Is it a fake if da vinchi painted it?

... you do know that in Partners in Crime Matron Cofelia DIED because she seeded Earth, right? Which would've happened with or without the Doctor.

The only reason all of these didn't win is because the doctor has plot armour.

#1 should have been the Master becoming Prime Minister.

Emergency pathogenesis wasn't the original plan. That only became the plan when she was discovered and had to finish up the breeding program much more quickly.

I'm surprised the Master turning everyone into him from The End of Time wasn't on this list. In extended media, one of the best Doctor Who villain plans IMO is from Anti-Genesis: The Master (Derek Jacobi) goes back in time, kills young Davros and creates his own Daleks.

The Raverges wanted to free time = The Raverges of time.

DOCTOR WWHHHOO

Oh Wow!....the new Indiana Jones movie has a Heinkel 111 in it!!!!!!!

smarty pants plans or smarty - plans

but davros got captured by the original daleks who plan to excute him really smart plan

Hmmmm....interesting "Turn Left" reference in the intro to America's Jubilee of Capitalism (aka Super Bowl)

Pretty sure that was the annoyingly smart guy from Bones in the T-Mobile commercial. Pardon me for choosing this as my Basho to Reflect some of the Imagery that being broadcast into the American Mind (such as it is).... Think of it as .....what was that network in the Sound of Drums???.....Archangel???

Ngl Mrs Foster was probably the dumbest villain in total. She wouldve died either way, with the doctor or without

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The Ravages sucked. So boring and generic.

What about abzorbaloff?