Very good observation shawn miachels do that sometimes

I've said this before. It's stupid. Ric flair of all people has done this.

Its their health bars. Refs only have about 10 health and get knocked out so easily for long times, tv matches wrestlers have around 5000 health and in ppv matches they seem to have 15000 health which is why they always kick out of at least one finisher

@@MasterEvc I see. Thanks for the clarification.

@@MasterEvc Idk if you're being sarcastic or not cz they definitely don't have health bars😂😂

I was just about to mention that one XD

It looks so stupid when they do that

The dive to the partner always kills me. They're 2 feet away but they dive lol. I hate it but it's hilarious at the same time

Lol right?? "I am so beat up, I can't even get to my feet and must CRAWL to my corner. But I TOTALLY have enough energy to suddenly LEAP the last 8 feet to make that hot tag, no problem." Makes perfect sense

@@SecretSexSkeleton yeah it does, just enjoy the show

Right? Like.. we're really going with the ruling of ONE ref trying to keep up with anywhere from 2-10+ people at one time, assuming they even manage to stay conscious through an entire match, as the final say in every single match (except when suddenly storyline dictates otherwise)??? Especially when you sometimes even have one, possibly multiple wrestlers, occasionally even an announcer, and of course actual camera footage (which is already inevitably being replayed immediately afterwards) saying "yo, you missed some absolute cheating bullshit and your ruling is wrong"?? Like.. c'mon bro. I get it back in the pre-TV days, but at this point, it's just absurd

Maybe because the NFL doesn't have predetermined endings?

@@TrillBill you apparently haven’t watched many Tom Brady games

@@smithandrew051 No comment 😂

@@TrillBill The wwe still needs to come up with a fayfabe reason to explain why they don't use instant replay.

It's called protecting the heel

Happens in the ring too. Refs will let the heel smother the other guy in the corner forever. But will pull the babyface off if he so much even considers doing it (bonus points when the heel takes advantage with a thunk to the eye). Damn biased refs xD

Happen in real life too, when a bully punch u or when you punch bully

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Also happens in every other wrestling company....

blue thunderbomb lol

This is why Japanese wrestling is better honestly

@@aadarshthomasraj5018 If you want no characters ,storylines or people who look like wrestlers and only want gymnastics . Yeah then japanese is better

@@aadarshthomasraj5018 I'm Japanese and trust me, I really don't like Japanese wrestling. Most of the crowds just sit there like zombies compared to loud excited crowds we see in Wwe/Aew. Also the storylines in Njpw isn't as good as the ones we see in American wrestling companies.

@@khesipresents1885 L

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Even in games to

Outside interference in general would have been cracked down on years ago. Imagine if boxing or MMA turned a blind eye to rivals running in and ruining a title fight?

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​@@maxdecimus13I would never miss a fight if they just allowed for that in boxing or MMA.

the management would see this and add the stipulation if the lost one more time to dq they would lose the title like with randy and christian

@@bigpuppaplays7738 One...more...match.

Edge did this he just ran away in some of his matches

Well for that one, they don't want to be seen as a coward. Some champions want to fight and gain legitimacy.

That's actually something they do

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Also, 99.9% of times, wrestlers just fight each other. Why does security and/or other wrestlers get involved in breaking up 2 wrestlers every now and then?

That’s like saying a movie studio forces actors to have sex , whenever a script has a sex scene. You do realize they pretended to have sex right?

@@entropysmith6965 I know they pretend to do it, but she revealed in a podcast that she was uncomfortable to do it, Edge tried to scrap the segment too, but Vince threated her to do the segment or she'll be fired.

@@streetmagic7681 WWE forced Lita and Edge to do a sex scene.

YOUR RIGHT👍🏾

And he's driving his elbow harder for more impact, which would make more sense that it's more effective than a regular elbow. People always whine about this move's validity. If someone maximized effort into driving the point of their elbow into someone's sternum, I guarantee that it would hurt.

I think it's more the fact that it takes 20 seconds to do it.

I once did the people's elbow on my cousin when we were teenagers, he said he couldn't move after I hit it on him.

maybe but mostly for crowd reaction!

that was my thought as well. The middle ropes only get relevant for 619s :D

exactly or randy’s ddt similarly

Mick Foley did and it cut his ear off 😳

Hahahahahahahahahah

That would be scripted as well as the match itself.

@@wizcorn9958 no, really? 😲 I had no fucking clue!

i started watching Raw/Smachdown recent at the start of Smackdown, and it is funny to see Earl trying to not look at them cheating. He'll look and quickly look away like nope they aren't done.

I think Aubrey Edwards kills this honestly lol she lets the wrestlers get away with so much

And if it falls in front of his face, he still won't see it!

Same for any ladder match involving the briefcase or a championship. They’ll take ages to climb towards the prize that they’ve wanted for weeks, months, or possibly years to have. Makes no sense.

Yeah tru. I was like “DUFE WTF ARE U DOIN GET UP THERE. NOW”

Money in the bank causes osteoporosis in feds booked by vince didn't you know

Something even worse than this is when they climb to a rung that obviously isn’t high enough, and still try to reach for the briefcase. This happens even when they’re not tired

"Dang, it's time to clean the gutters again." *6 days later.* "Why'd I come up here?"

Kayfabe, I'd attribute that to incredible conditioning. He just needs a couple of minutes to recover and catch his breath and he's ready to go.

And the wrestler that comes in will run wild and closeline all opponents several times in 90% of all tag team matches

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Lmaooooooo

*touches husband* *falls and sells it like he's really hurt*

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😂😂😂

What do you mean watching tv sideways?

@@Hknasw Standing sideways towards a TV monitor.

@@chris_t2020 Oh I know what you mean. Guess it is kinda weird to show their backs

Joke's on us. The TV images are simulated. The wrestlers/backstage personnel are just looking at a blank screen

Like when Jericho pissed in Regal's tea. There was a dude filming that.

I always thought they go slow bc they are just tired . Like if there is ladder match , they first fight for like 10-20 min before anyone tries to go climb a ladder so its logical hes already tired and have less energy and thats why he goes slow

If WWE signs conor mcgregor and mjf then tony khan fails to redesign daniel bryan and cm punk then that's gonna be the downfall of AEW

It's even worse in the video games because when they climb up the ladder you got to use the meter to climb a little at a time

@@benjistylez4923 lol wut Calm down, E-drone. At least go troll on something even moderately related to your bullshit

Or when they stop short like "bro you know you need to go up a couple more rungs to reach the belt idiot!" 😂

climbing a ladder is hard.

@@AXSofHFDS it sure is when you're tired lol

Except they usually suddenly stop being tired as soon as they get dragged off the ladder and get back to wrestling ...

Yeah, cuz getting ripped from the ladder and crashing go the floor kicked that sweet, sweet adrenaline in, baybay

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Except for squash matches, it seems like all matches follow this script

if you train to be a wrestler you learn there are 7 stages to a wrestling match so your almost there

Especially when the heel takes control it's in some sort of hold

And is it just me or does it always seem like heels recover faster than faces? I bet a heel hit on the head with a chair would recover faster than a face simply poked in the eyes

@@arabiannights7400 yeah

Well let's wait for someone to pull them down 😅

In a big fan of Eddie but I have to agree with this because the crowds already hyped up when he climbed the turnbuckle, so I don't think there's a need to do a second taunt on the top rope since he gives a signal to the fans when he's feeling froggy already.

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No they didn’t.

@@streetmagic7681 no no they didn’t

That's why characters are important. Jeff Hardy is a charismatic enigma, a daredevil. Characters like that prefer to do crazier stuff than to actually win. This is the type of stuff you expect from Darby Allin also and not characters like Edge, Roman and Miz who just wants to win regardless.

​@@mico5536 Edge spear Jeff Hardy from mid-air, he also spear Mick foley though a table in flame so...maybe if we talk about the Edge from 2022 but it's more about the security of his real health than is character.

@@AmiralNitto That's the problem with edge. He's a major opportunist then he does those extreme things, he's just supposed to win and not put himself on danger. That's a flaw to his character. But then again those said opponents are also extreme as well so he might want to be extreme as well. But my point still stands.

@@AmiralNitto edge speared jeff hardy who was hanging onto the title. If you remember that match. So he prevented jeff from winning the title at that moment of time.

Dude, you gotta fill up that taunt meter to make your finisher as devestating as possible. ALSO that's the reason WHY certain finishers are deadlier than their generic counterparts. Not only is the wrestler especially skilled with that particular move, but by adding the Taunt, the damage has been multiplied. Duh 🙄 😆

Why do you think that you can't see me became such a meme?

@@SecretSexSkeleton no

Slasher Dope ok

@@Pennywise467 why do you feel the need to say ok and no to everyone?

True

but that's the case. they'll be counted out if they follow. unless the ref isn't counting for some odd reason. and 1 guy rolling into the ring for a sec restarts the count for both??? and how is a 3-count like 3 seconds, but a ring-out 10-count takes over a minute?

@@OB1KXB he’s not talking about when it’s a match, usually if there’s a fight or something and one wrestler get out of the ring why doesn’t the other one just chase them.

Samoa joe used to do that by just walking away XD

There's a really good video of Montez Ford diving out to pretty much nobody on the outside of the ring.

@@gavino0077 literally the mental image that ran through my head when I read the original comment

@Blackadder XD damn you right

The Undertaker almost died at Wrestlemania when the cameraman moved away.

I like this, this is solid enough for me lol

almost as ridiculous as that spelling

😂😂

In Canada, it's spelled "rediculours"

Because the move was created to make the undertaker laugh and brake character

because it has the energy of all of the rock’s fan in one elbow kinda like the spirit bomb from dbz 😂😂😂

@@donos4dubai436 I'll accept this as the answer

@@mimperial1982 me too

@@Azeeeer not true cute answer. but keep trying. Use don’t only use Google next time

Same here. That reminds me of what I once read about lucha libre; that it's basically a superhero show in the ring. People want to suspend their disbelief and enjoy the storylines and the over-the-top action as an escape from the real world for a short while.

Its "sports entertainment" not "wrestling"

The counter to the roll up is to keep on rolling.

The counter to the People’s Elbow is to bring a pillow to the ring and, place it on your chest right before it lands. Counteracts the elbow pad removal.

As a kid, my brother would use the small package on me and to this day have no idea how to get out quick enough. Some of us are just unfortunately crappy at kicking out of a roll up pin in 2 seconds.

Uh, no? It's pretty common to counter roll ups

But I wonder if just turning your body will reverse the move? 🤔

I've always looked at that as a rule within the ring. It's not that the person isn't being pinned anymore but the pin is being disrupted and therefore the count can't continue.

The pin was invalidated by an illegal man entering the ring; essentially, the ref's priority changed to 'get the illegal guy out' over 'continuing the pincount'.

IKRRR OMG

Also why they always go for a pin after executing a move that’s not a finisher thinking that they will get the victory only for the opponent to kick out

@@fadafada4347 the point of the match is to win. A finisher shouldn't always be what ends a match as it would make things too predictable.

He also throws a shuffle side kick (crosses his feet before the kick) in reality that actual does generate a lot more power than a regular side kick (I'm a kickboxer). Either way it doesn't really matter from a sports entertainment perspective its just the nature of the beast that a popular wrestlers finisher eventually becomes a normal move

Plus Shawn Michaels would tune up the band, that was his version of powering up... his surprise super kicks were never as effective as a well tuned sweet chin music.

Thank you to all 3 posts above me for literally saying EXACTLY what has always been my own personal headcanon

If you compare Chris's superkick to Shawn's and apply the same logic, the originator of the superkick would've literally killed everyone he hit with that thing.

@@alexdavis9324 True point! Fellow kickboxer here :) Also some Taekwondo, and a shuffle step side kick is a legit KO move if it connects.

Doesn’t make since?

@@jinsakai2493 A lot of stuff that WWE does doesn't make sense.

@@freedomisours 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

You know what is all about? It's about drive...

@@Mr_Leo_DS And supposedly the fans, which they never have listened.

Arnell Long ok

@@Pennywise467 Ok

Exactly. It’s like a play. You only have one chance to get it right. Can’t do it over in front of 20,000 people.

My question is Do they rehearse all the match before? I mean yes, I know how wrestlers converse during the match! But is it there like some kind of practice before? Like, How everything goes back to back? I've seen one match of hhh and rock rehearsing.

Yes they rehearse because they want to make sure it's and moves they do get on TV and make the match super cool

It's a move of punishment for a worthy combatant. It tells them " I will hurt myself to hurt you even more". More of a taunting move.

I thought that's only when RVD hits it.

@@TheRuns2 RVD was in more in pain doing the move than the actually person receiving the move lmao

Exactly

awesome point ngl

Exactly like taking a punch from Riddle is way different from taking a punch from Lesnar

Those the 4 greatest matches ever

Don't forget undertaker vs batista and undertaker vs sbawn

@@michaelmayers3622 those Matches were also awesome and I find it hilarious that Batista Gave Undertaker a running powerslam through the ECW announce table.

@@michaelmayers3622 you're absolutely right ✅

@@benespinosa6725 and brick and taker, basicly anything against taker him,Kane rock,stone,and anybody from evolution be carrying matches lol

Cause it probably does hurt him as well, he just sells it more than other wrestlers doing the splash

Coz it’s 5 star dur

Frog Splashes are VERY painful to receive AND do especially with how high RVD likes to jump. But the thing is it might actually hurt RVD more because he is a relatively smaller guy compared to some of the wrestlers he fought. That said it's probably just selling.

Or they act like they can't just pick them up and throw them out the ring

Omg that always used to piss me off. What part of “every man/woman for themselves” do they not get?

AGREE i forgot that one !!

They do it so they can flip their opponent over there head, but it rarely works out

Because they want to attempt a back body drop but that rarely ever works.

@@uflstallions_dynasty way to just copy the man's comment 💀

@@FazeRustyNuts he named the actual name of the move "Back Body Drop" so people could look it up. So he added more information to what was said, not "copied a comment"

Not really. My money would be on Goldberg in a real fight vs Husky

@@mikemck4796 don't forget that this man got out wrestled by Y2J

Your wish has been granted

@@jiggleballs55 lol

And any time they DO pull off the back body drop, it wasn't because they lowered their head for 2-3 seconds first.

@@HelpTheWretched yeah, that bothers me, specially how they don't even have their arms up, they have them lowered just waiting for the kick

They ‘telegraphed ‘ it!

ive always thought of that like if someone hits a drop kick and goes straight to the pin knowing that the dropkick wont win them the match

@@antwancampbell9230 I can understand something like that, for a quick pin to maybe wear down stamina and at least add drama to the match. It's more annoying when it's something like a devastating DDT or superplex, but it's just not special enough.

They bothered me until aew showed me how fake you can really make them look. Now I appreciate the wwe dives

@@lambz1198 same😂😂😂😂

@@lambz1198 lol true

Moe ok

Specially the outside dives, WWE's camera work make them look less worse

Yes

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@@Pennywise467 Did you forget to type the rest? or Are you trend follower? Rather than contribute to the conversation of the original commentor, you go with dumbass gen z lingo. (God I hate my own generation coming up with these trash trends. I'd rather have grown up in the 80s or 90s.) Here is my input as someone who is related to 3 former Pro Wrestlers (For those curious My Father, my Brother and my Uncle were Indy Wrestlers. Father was Kryptonite, Uncle was Corpone Hank, Brother David Fury.) and as someone who may or may not become one myself, the original commentor is correct. Those are the reasons Wrestlers do such things.

@@OfficialSoraOkami acting as if the 80s and 90s didn't have trash trends either, it's not that serious just move on.

@@OfficialSoraOkami not that serious bro lol

@@tomv2063 Glad we came to the agreement that using L is a trash trend and isn't any, of value in a conversation. Of course every generation has some bad eggs. To be fair though, gen z has the most trash trends in comparison of previous generations. Hell even people have become pussified, especially if you go on Twitter. Examples any and all dances that have shown up on Tiktok and Fortnite. Tide pods, Gorilla Glue Girl. "Memes" that have existed in the last 5 to 10 years with only a few actually being funny, till it gets ruined after people keep spamming it months after it died. All rap music became Autotune which means you can have 0 talent and still be called a decent Rapper... Looking at you Sound Cloud. The only "good" thing of this generation is the technology advancement. Hell even WWE is not doing good now after releasing almost every star on it's roster. Imo cancel culture kinda killed wrestling for tv's cause people don't want to offend anyone anymore. Half of what made Wrestling big today would have gotten "canceled" especially early Cena whose character was sexist and racist. So yes this generation is definitely worse than previous ones.

The first cage match I ever saw was Hogan vs. Bundy in Wrestlemania 2 and the cage had a door. I presumed it was because Bundy was too big to be climbing that high.

I think the door thing needs to be gotten rid of.

My argument to your rumble remark is if you don't tire out your opponents first he'll be more able to resist and fight back

And i would add about the steel cage match when the babyface of the match climbs the cage not to exit but make a highrisk dive to the opponent

The dumbest move I've seen is people using a submission move in a ladder match. For eg Chris Benhoit.

@@rupert4974 yeah I never thought of that too

@@kurumi9714 😂😂

If the opponent kicks out AFTER he does the move then wtf is the point to go for a pin BEFORE he does the move? "KZfaq comments that make so sense"

Lmao word I'm dying laughing cause it's true

Yooo this is true 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

What? This isn't a weird thing. Most people can stop doing what they were about to do straight away. You think if someone kicks out at 2 and a half that you wouldn't be able to stop your hand from hitting the mat? Sounds like you might have some hand-eye coordination/reflex problems. You would be awful at that green light game in Squid Games.

@@shaun2463 the guy who made the original comment had to rethink his life

You can add the elbow drop to that as well. Also, why doesn't a supelx hurt both wrestlers?

@@SkeletorTclaws well, the wrestler that is lifted higher should always take more damage

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@@Mr_Leo_DS kinda reminds me of an old sega game called wrestle war. When you suplex your opponent, he gets damaged but, you need time to recover before getting back up.

@@SkeletorTclaws literally the 2K game's too

haha where have I heard that before

@@uflstallions_dynasty Right here haha...it was a wrestling fan who said it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j9yUZsR22LrMkpc.html

Thankfully they stopped putting themselves in position for Orton's DDT and the 619

Yeah but Orton still does the ‘ground pound’ thing before an RKO which is awesome- but silly lol

Opinions 1.I totally agree!!! A simple push to the shoulder all of a sudden looks like they've suffered a concussion 2. The person who got pinned rolls out the ring just fine is because they are too tired to wrestle and take damage anymore

I reckon they let Brock win in order to let Lashley win back the title from a credible opponent elevating Lashley further.

I think the ref thing is to sell that the wrestlers are these larger than life people, while the refs are just ordinary. I guess it makes the wrestlers seem stronger when they can take all these hits but anyone else can’t

Adler-Pokémon no

@@BTKMike ok

That’s the point, all these criticisms are under “if it were real”. Obviously, you have to let reality go a bit to make pro wrestling work.

@@sirnetflix7162 Yeah, exactly that.

@@Arnell_Long unless we turn tropes on it's head.

@@ArtseyHayton06 That would be appreciated haha.

Arnell Long ok

Me too before 2013 i thought wwe was real

Or the 619 too since the wrestler receiving the move has to drop to the ropes perfectly which is really difficult to believe.

Sheamus's Ten beats of the Bodrum (or whatever) and Randy Orton's middle-rope DDT are especially frustrating as you need the opponent to get in position within the ropes for them

How do you watch wrestling then?

@Blackadder and every wrestler apparently, since everyone has their own "cooperative moves"

It actually makes the whole thing worse. That's why the distracted wrestler has to spend 10-30 seconds trembling in fear of a phantom interference, as the whole match effectively stops to give the audience time to stop looking at the entrance and return to watching the ring to see the inevitable surprise roll-up.

@@BainesMkII Hmm, an interesting take :)

Not hard to understand why tf did u need a video 💀

I think it's because of the how long the match they want match look reality so the fun to see a good match and so when they so when they climb the ladder it makes you seem like they are tired and worn out that's why they climb slow I'm guessing butt if everyone else is laid out why not get up there quick

Taunts are used in real fights... guess real fight don't make any sense huh

I can explain. With the current camera view, the left side is where you can more easily view the hot tag. It would look more awkward to the right side. And as you know, heels just don't do fake tags apparently lol. So it's just a logistical thing that breaks the illusion.