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10 Ways To Use Boost Pedals With Your Guitar Rig - That Pedal Show

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That Pedal Show

That Pedal Show

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We show you 10 great ways to use boost pedals with your guitar amp and pedals… and discover the boosts you never knew you had!
Life too short for long KZfaq videos? Please see the ‘Interesting bits and go-to sections’ information below.
Welcome to the show! In this episode, Dan and I go through 10 ways to approach the ‘humble’ boost pedal in your signal chain.
To most of us, boost simply means ‘more’ but it’s where you place the ‘more’ that makes such a huge difference in texture, tone and feel.
Do you want more overdrive, more volume, more compression or a different EQ? Or less of all the above? It’s all possible with this simple addition to your rig, as we discover…
Enjoy the episode!
Pedals & stuff in this episode…
• TheGigRig Three2One
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• Peterson Strobo Stomp HD
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• Analog Man Bad Bob
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• Metropoulos Supa-Boost
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• BOSS BD2w WAZA Craft Blues Driver
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Australia: bit.ly/3lmZUUf
• SoloDallas Storm
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• Xotic EP Booster
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Australia: bit.ly/2OYhH1K
USA: bit.ly/3EFrBPf
• Effectrode Fire Bottle Tube Boost
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• Analog Man Beano Boost
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• ZVEX Super Hard On
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• Xotic SP Compressor
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• Triungulo Lab Chorus Ensemble
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• Catalinbread Topanga Spring Reverb
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Australia: bit.ly/2KZngfV
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• Echo Fix EF-X2 Tape Echo
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• Boss GE-7 Graphic Equalizer
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USA: bit.ly/3DGPJiW
• TheGigRig G2
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Intro playing: 0:00
- What are we doing today? 1:30
1) Always On Boost For Shaping: 2:14
…EchoFix tape delay preamp: 3:23
…Xotic EP Booster: 4:43
…Solo Dallas Storm: 8:35
2) Add More Gain To Your Overdrive Pedal: 10:12
…Effectrode Fire Bottle: 11:15
3) Add A Volume Boost To Your OD Pedal: 13:30
4) Add More Gain To Your Amp: 15:45
…Hot Rod Deluxe: 17:06
…Matchless HC30: 18:06
5) Add More Volume To Your Amp: 20:10
…boost in the FX loop: 21:46
5.5) Bonus use of the FX loop - overdrive your clean channel: 23:39
6) Use Your Boost As An Underdrive: 27:19
…Bad Bob into Blues Driver: 29:00
7) Pair A Compressor And A Boost For Dynamics: 31:35
…plus a boost in the FX loop: 37:09
8) Be Selective With The Frequencies You Boost: 43:39
9) Discover The Boosts You Never Knew You Had: 44:30
…compressor: 45:45
10) Stack Boosts For A Unique OD: 49:15
Guitars in this episode:
• Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster - Mick’s video at bit.ly/2cQv3yT
• Gibson Custom 1958 Les Paul Standard - Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dbwbvS
• Gretsch G6228 Player’s Edition Jet BT w/V Stoptail - no video yet
• Gibson Memphis 1958 ES-335 - Mick’s video at bit.ly/2mpJA8X
• Fender Custom Shop ’52 Telecaster - Dan’s video at bit.ly/2Hlpy5Y
• Collings 290 DC S - Mick’s video at bit.ly/2dDG96k
Amps in this episode
• Matchless HC-30 with Hughes & Kettner Vintage 212 / Celestion G12M Greenback
• Fender Hot Rod Deluxe III with Celestion G12P-80
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@rikohasring2515
@rikohasring2515 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan & Mick, Almost 2 years ago I suffered a significant concussion and whiplash injury that had a serious impact on my vision, balance, equilibrium, and damaged my pituitary function. This left me a shut-in who couldn't read or watch TV. I was left dealing with nausea, migraines, and head fog on a daily basis. I could only leave the house for short bursts before I was overwhelmed with symptoms. I could only listen to audiobooks, podcasts to stem the boredom. As my vision improved slightly I stumbled upon TPS, and found I could listen to you guys all day long. The side effect was that along the way you reignited my passion for the guitar in general and pedals in particular. I'm not yet fully recovered, but I'm finally on the right path with vision therapy, vestibular rehab, PRP injections, physio and weekly hormone injections. Just wanted to say a humble thank-you for what you do. Your joyful enthusiasm for the guitar went a long way to keep my spirits high on my long journey back to the light. Bless you, boys!
@thomasnissen1402
@thomasnissen1402 4 жыл бұрын
@sirbaronvoncount4147
@sirbaronvoncount4147 4 жыл бұрын
Keep rocking friend! Sorry to hear about your injuries
@jimkiousis
@jimkiousis 4 жыл бұрын
Wishing the best for you!!
@stuartnarduzzo4868
@stuartnarduzzo4868 4 жыл бұрын
The healing power of some friendly voices and music is magical. So glad to hear you are on the mend and back on track. You have a strong spirit. Keep going! :)
@NJSonye
@NJSonye 4 жыл бұрын
There! All those viewers that think your shows are too long or “rehashing old topics” needs to be aware there are people that enjoy every minute of TPS. Thanks for your therapeutic value.
@thebossandthebeestonstreet9493
@thebossandthebeestonstreet9493 4 жыл бұрын
Boost into an overdrive: Blues Driver. Boost after an overdrive: Blues Driver Boost to shape tone: Blues Driver Boost to go underdrive: Blues Driver Drive: Blues Driver 5 Blues Drivers should do the trick.
@RedRose4711
@RedRose4711 4 жыл бұрын
So, lets see. You like the Blues Driver then.
@forester057
@forester057 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂👍🏻
@3rdNippleClips
@3rdNippleClips 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes yes. Keep up the good work old chap.
@mattburdock1734
@mattburdock1734 4 жыл бұрын
Are you crazy? Without Blues Drivers in your effects loop and at the end of your signal chain, this just isn't gonna work ;-)
@murfmurphy6212
@murfmurphy6212 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot splitting the signal to run 5 blues drivers in parallel. So 10 blues drivers in front of the amp and 4 in the loop and your good. Boss should copy TC an create the blues driver x14 with stereo signal path.
@fishypaw
@fishypaw 4 жыл бұрын
I get a boost from knowing it's Friday and that there is a new TPS episode to watch. 😊
@IceNein763
@IceNein763 4 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for the most 80's show you could possibly do: 10 Ways To Use Chorus Pedals With Your Rig
@EzyoMusic
@EzyoMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Featuring a TC 1210 among others.
@gcvrsa
@gcvrsa 4 жыл бұрын
My early 1990s sound relied heavily on using a Boss CE-3 as a Vibrato pedal (until I got a VB-2 Vibrato). Just plug into the effect output only.
@bluebetty7847
@bluebetty7847 4 жыл бұрын
what you always have to remember ( in the immortal words of a man taken much too soon) that 'Ariel, that Joey, that JOSH, heck that Jimi " He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy.
@mattlynn7254
@mattlynn7254 4 жыл бұрын
@@gcvrsathe ce-3 vibrato sound is incredible, i use it all the time
@gcvrsa
@gcvrsa 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Lynn Pretty sure it's the same chip as the VB-2, just less control over it.
@overdrivemejimmy6847
@overdrivemejimmy6847 4 жыл бұрын
This show is like the cold beer after a horrible day at work everytime. Much love you guys!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 4 жыл бұрын
Likewise!
@danabnormal5892
@danabnormal5892 4 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, these last few episodes have been absolutely stellar. They have been so so useful
@adamandvanessawilson2654
@adamandvanessawilson2654 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a strat guy, but when Mick says “I’m going to switch to some humbuckers,” I know the 335 is coming and my heart rate increases. 😎
@timothyhingham3672
@timothyhingham3672 4 жыл бұрын
Now we are talking! That intro. That's my kinda tone. Love it! Got a Bad bob, Zvex SHO, Skreddy Hybrid Fuzzdriver...yeah baby. Had a SHO for 15 years. It's special because its a boost and a sonic maximizer in one effectively. It strips away the odd order harmonics with it's negative feedback loop. Cleans up your guitar tone before you bring in the gain. It's fabulous!
@ThunderboltProductions
@ThunderboltProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Strat guy myself, but boy is it nice to see the return of Dan's LP! Great work, as always!
@RobFlaxMusic
@RobFlaxMusic 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite boost to use as an underdriver AND boost into OD: Empress Para EQ! I have mine set to attenuate different frequencies, so all the EQ is reduction, plus a -6dB input pad. Then the boost side can go wayyy over the top, giving me "on and quiet," "off and medium," "on with boost and loud." All this into a Greer Lightspeed works like magic.
@ariithka
@ariithka 4 жыл бұрын
The boost in the Para EQ is amazing. If you like the amp distortion already it just takes it to 11. I have mine after all other gain stages and into rhe Empress Tape Delay...which has it's own boost but not sure it is the same as in rhe Para EQ.
@grega1207
@grega1207 4 жыл бұрын
The Empress ParaEQ is a "secret weapon" in my opinion for all the reasons you stated above Rob. Plus, being on my board for both acoustic and electric applications it makes it easy to tame any feedback acoustics sometimes incur. A really great pedal that gets overlooked for all the other fancy stuff!
@sirbaronvoncount4147
@sirbaronvoncount4147 4 жыл бұрын
Boost pedals are real gain changers. You can have that for a shirt. Your welcome
@markedwards7721
@markedwards7721 4 жыл бұрын
Beware, this is current black slang in America, using "gain" in place of "game". I have no idea if they are cognizant of it, or just stupid.
@Astral_Wave
@Astral_Wave 2 жыл бұрын
@@markedwards7721 No. They say "game". Just sounds like "gain" to you. Also, what was really the point of your comment other than to announce that you're racist and weird?
@sweethands4328
@sweethands4328 2 жыл бұрын
@@markedwards7721 okay?
@seanpowell-burns6626
@seanpowell-burns6626 2 жыл бұрын
@@Astral_Wave this, grow up mark
@PedalPoopers
@PedalPoopers 2 жыл бұрын
*Cringe*... Nobody would buy it. They'd just wear CatalinBread or Old Blood shirts instead
@patrickfitzgerald2861
@patrickfitzgerald2861 4 жыл бұрын
Dan made the point, but I'll reiterate it. In a band, with say a drummer and bassist thumping along, many (most?) of the lovelier tones presented here would dissolve away. But the Beano, which didn't sound that great alone, would shine when used properly. So the context is just as important as the pedal/amp use concepts you've outlined. I think this may explain why more than a few guitarists find pedals so frustrating.
@fossilmatic
@fossilmatic 4 жыл бұрын
So true. But the caveat that it was all good for “bedroom noodling” was made early on. You have to train your ears when listening for “good tone” to consider the context it’s heard in. Lots of pedals seem to be produced to mimic a certain well known sound or other in isolation. Does this spur you to play the instrument (your guitar and amp) more creatively? YMMV. Interesting that many of the iconic effect pedals were effectively “misused” by guitarists who transcended their intended sound to create new musical tones. Maestro Fuzz to sound like a saxophone, anyone?
@saurfarming3772
@saurfarming3772 4 жыл бұрын
I've been finding this out lately with pedals and amps. Hoping they'll do a show on this subject.
@christiaandemarezoyens4720
@christiaandemarezoyens4720 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Fitzgerald Totally agree
@markgamache6377
@markgamache6377 4 жыл бұрын
You guys need to add a “Blimey O'Riley” T-shirt to the TPS store.
@xtculater3213
@xtculater3213 4 жыл бұрын
mark gamache and maybe an El Gungo or jamage
@gbarge4
@gbarge4 4 жыл бұрын
And let's not forget Dan's Giddy Aunt...
@brightfalls6788
@brightfalls6788 4 жыл бұрын
Boost into effects loop is the best. Got a Talisman with the boost at 12 ’o clock and reverb set super low/subtle, it’s become a mainstay. Makes stuff sound the way it’s “supposed to”. Doesn’t really add gain, so much as it adds “balls”. If anything, it’s un-compressing the signal and opening things up. Excited to try out some more power amp boosting ideas now.
@TimBentley
@TimBentley 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. Boosts are so good. I find myself using fewer ODs since I got a Power Station, because I can run my amps hotter and get most of my drive from the power tubes, but I always have at least a couple of boost pedals to shape the tone and to give me more control over the amp's drive. And a treble booster into an overdriving amp is such a great sound, especially in a live band mix.
@Qstick333
@Qstick333 4 жыл бұрын
I am excited to watch this. You guys keep giving me fresh ideas of how to use my pedalboard. It's almost like looking at the board as an additional instrument, which I never used to do.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite boost is when Mick says something insightfully philosophical while ripping up and down the fretboard without even looking at the guitar. That always gives me a lift. And Dan's exclamations of joy (current #1 "Thrust me, baby!") boost my mood no end.
@vaughnquinlan6722
@vaughnquinlan6722 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Gilbert imagine the “thrust me big man” boost. I need to build that, now!
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 4 жыл бұрын
@@vaughnquinlan6722 I'll buy the first one.
@Gniff85411
@Gniff85411 4 жыл бұрын
That episode could have gone on another hour. “10 ways” is such a brilliant series for so many different types of players at almost any level to learn something new or think through another approach to something they do often. Please keep these coming 🖤
@rasmusolesen5307
@rasmusolesen5307 4 жыл бұрын
Under-driving is also really cool with other pedals that have a "master volume". Most vibe and tremolo pedals have this. So you can put them before gain and get a cleaner sound when using the effect. Thanks for a great show as always :)
@mikestich9173
@mikestich9173 4 жыл бұрын
Have you guys ever discussed guitar action? I like hearing what different players prefer and why.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 4 жыл бұрын
That would be an interesting show indeed!
@andredegiant3876
@andredegiant3876 4 жыл бұрын
I like mine justtt low enough to where it doesn't buzz but where it doesn't feel like I'm having to work
@patrickfitzgerald2861
@patrickfitzgerald2861 4 жыл бұрын
I'd add string gauges to that discussion. After watching Rick Beato's vid on string gauges I've changed both strings (8's) and action (lower) and I'm over-the-moon happy with the results.
@shagradauyo
@shagradauyo 4 жыл бұрын
I second that request
@SlingShot830201
@SlingShot830201 4 жыл бұрын
And fret size!!! (In particular how fret preferences change across guitars)
@gdscheiwe01
@gdscheiwe01 4 жыл бұрын
1 second in, Dan’s got the Les Paul out, smile on my face. That tone is my happy place. Thanks guys. Peace!
@jagtone
@jagtone 4 жыл бұрын
Gretsch Jet
@mattrector431
@mattrector431 4 жыл бұрын
That fire bottle into the blues driver..... just yea... I wish I had a blues driver again. Great sounds, love your show!!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt :)
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 4 жыл бұрын
My "always-on" tone is a comp & two boosts. Been using that setup for years and people called me crazy! The joke is on them now, TPS stamp of approval :D The second boost is more like "almost always-on" - it's for changing guitars/pups.
@timspivey664
@timspivey664 4 жыл бұрын
These last two episodes have been really helpful even though you’ve done them before. The basics can be covered over and over again, especially given that there’s a seemingly endless supply of new gear. Thanks so much!
@mariodriessen9740
@mariodriessen9740 4 жыл бұрын
I used the Super Hard On as an always on pedal for atleast 10 years. Not only does it sound wonderful, it also cleans up the whole signal path dramatically, because of its great buffer. I needed that. I ran around on large stages, while using 10 or 12 meter long cables (!!!), 'cause I didn't want to use a wireless system. I don't even remember why I bought it. I just did. I switched it on, it blew me away and I never switched it back off again.
@leonnardobonnard
@leonnardobonnard 4 жыл бұрын
I was sad that you didn’t show all the power of the Fire Bottle at single coils. It is a game changer in tone in cleans sound in any volume range (in my opinion 😆). You guys have a such great show by the way! Keep going!
@chadward
@chadward 4 жыл бұрын
Points 1-4 are exactly what I do (yay confirmation bias!). The first pedal in my chain is a Bad Bob, which is off most of the time. The always-on pedal is a Strymon Deco, which is highly underrated as a light boost/crunch pedal (Saturation at 1:00, Volume at just above unity, usually pointed at the "A" in Saturation). When I need a bit more overdrive, the Bad Bob at 10:00 pushes the Strymon into heavier overdrive with just a bit of volume boost. Both pedals are ahead of an always-on Bearfoot Pale Green Compressor set to light compression & output just a hair above unity.When I need a lead tone, I turn the Deco OFF. The Bad Bob into the Bearfoot bypasses the compression of the Decco and hits the amp significantly harder, the Bearfoot catching the spiky transients. It's glorious.
@andredegiant3876
@andredegiant3876 4 жыл бұрын
I bought my first boost thinking I would use it for solos but I always missed it when it was off, so now it's always on for me! Just sweetens everything up without changing things drastically
@smelltheglove2038
@smelltheglove2038 Жыл бұрын
Yup, EP Booster is just a fantastic “make everything sound way better” pedal. I don’t think I play without it. It works on both my strat and my humbucker guitars. It’s just all around good.
@fishypaw
@fishypaw 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see an Effectrode pedal on the board. Funny, just before I saw it, I was thinking that I sometimes use my Tube Vibe with the intensity turned down as a boost pedal. P.S. Much love to Phil and his lovely wife, who offer the best customer service I have come across yet. I phoned them a while ago for help and his wife answered the phone, she was so friendly and helpful.
@ryanpaulretouch
@ryanpaulretouch 4 жыл бұрын
My main take from this is that I need a 7 watt bassbreaker instead of my v40 for the bedroom!
@klapaucjusz1
@klapaucjusz1 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Hot Rod Deluxe III and I get excited every time you use that amp in the show :-) Like, Yay, my Tone Gurus like my pedestrian little combo!
@JamesBrown-kc2oy
@JamesBrown-kc2oy 4 жыл бұрын
What a fabulous episode - I love stacking boosts and drives for texture and feel, and now you’ve given me even more new things to try. Thank you so much - yet again. 😁
@MrBiggordy
@MrBiggordy 4 жыл бұрын
18:54 - 19:30 So, Dan, remind me why you need fuzz?! An awesome overdriven sound, made epic by reverb (and the smile on you face tells all).
@Andy_Yates
@Andy_Yates 4 жыл бұрын
I still love the old Catalinbread boosts that I have. The Serrano boost and the sagrado pablano stout boost can do wonders. From that "more" pedal, to pushing an amp or other gain pedal. Really like those, and they're what got Catalinbread on my radar years ago
@LEUNN_
@LEUNN_ 2 ай бұрын
Man compressor + EP booster just WORKS for clean tones. Specially with the internal trimpots, you can really get a bitier or fatter clean tone. I love it!
@BitsOfEternity
@BitsOfEternity 2 жыл бұрын
#10 gave me goosebumps via both guitars - that doesn't usually happen on two guitars, but they both sounded awesome - beautiful trick!
@losrogers13
@losrogers13 4 жыл бұрын
Two best I've owned are Jackson Prism and Drybell Unit67 - both pedals sound excellent first in line and improve the tones and feeling of all my amps
@hankgalt
@hankgalt 4 жыл бұрын
I recently got an axe fx3, and I couldn’t recommend it more to people. I’ve been selling off all my pedals, and it’s so damn freeing I can’t even tell you. The time suck of wiring pedal boards and looking at pedals so often and the money suck of buying them all gone in the best $2k I’ve ever spent. Instead of fooling around with boards and looking into pedals and trying to make them sound better, I’m playing guitar. Hundreds of amps in one place, every effect you could want, all of which sounds amazing. Entire rigs switched over with the push of a button. If you’re big into pedals, cool, whatever floats your boat. But to anyone thinking about doing it, totally do it. It’s so liberating I can’t even begin to overstate how great it’s been to leave the pedal world behind. 🤘🏻🎸
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 4 жыл бұрын
Good for you Joe, whatever works dood!
@hankgalt
@hankgalt 4 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Show exactly, for some it’s pedals, and that’s awesome, and for some it isn’t. Just trying to help out my fellow guitar players who may be frustrated with the pedal routine by sharing my experience 🤘🏻🎸
@stuartbowlerwell2845
@stuartbowlerwell2845 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, I have to say that 2020 has thus far heard great things from TPS. I feel like you have continued to improve and refine the channel's output whilst still remaining true to why you started it all. From someone who you continue to inspire and make laugh, thanks once again.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stuart, that is a wonderful thing to hear! Always forward. :0)
@paulitik7
@paulitik7 4 жыл бұрын
Man that Blues Driver sounds so great. Even with the boost off.
@projekt1824
@projekt1824 4 жыл бұрын
Another gem, thank you! I've been using tip #1 for ages and have the whole time appreciated that the pedal that makes the tone bloom is the least expensive item on the board.
@tonyfaelens3626
@tonyfaelens3626 4 жыл бұрын
THNX !!!!! for the CLEAN jazzy sound !!!!!!!
@jamescaseymusic
@jamescaseymusic 4 жыл бұрын
Another on point one. Gain stage stacking is probably the big thing I've learned from TPS. And that covers what you're putting into what. Madam. In other words, how your choice of amp can be enhanced, but also what it can't deal with.
@davidrohland9319
@davidrohland9319 4 жыл бұрын
Great show and a very timely topic - a subject matter that I’ve been struggling with even after playing guitar for many, many years. I currently get all of my gain from my pedals, using a Greer Lightspeed for medium gain and an Angry Charlie for my high gain. I wanted to add a boost so I could lift the volume of my guitar solos over the mix (without relying on a soundman). I recently added a Suhr Koko Boost Reloaded BEFORE the Lightspeed (added gain & volume) and AFTER the Angry Charlie (added volume). The G2 made this super simple! Additionally, I was able to use the pre-gain & post-gain features of the G2 to further refine those volume levels. Sounds amazing - and works perfectly! 🎸
@guitarsimon1
@guitarsimon1 4 жыл бұрын
Pedal companies: Here’s our new transparent overdrive pedal. Me, an intellectual: *turns compressor volume up to 11*
@timothyhingham3672
@timothyhingham3672 4 жыл бұрын
Except no harmonic distortion, with a compressor. It's a VERY different beast. In front of something like the blues driver? watch out!
@alex9502
@alex9502 4 жыл бұрын
Instert stonks meme here saying "Guitar teck"
@guitarsimon1
@guitarsimon1 4 жыл бұрын
r/woooosh
@chrispschultz
@chrispschultz 4 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of the best collections of pedals and amps for a variety of budgets. I am most surprised in how subtle the differences in boost tone are, but makes absolute sense. All boost for the most part are just increasing volume all your tone shaping is before and/or after the boost. Cheers guys and thanks for the show.
@rydock
@rydock 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Hot Rod Deluxe IV and have been struggling with it a bit. I also found it to be very spiky and had this nasally mid-range honk that couldn't be dialed out. The amp just felt sterile and lifeless. I started to roll some tubes and found a 12AT7 in V3 for the phase inverter helped tame some of the huge spikes. The mid-range honk was still present and it was still slightly too spiky for my liking. I took the back cover off and checked the bias of the power tubes. Turns out Fender just sets the bias of these amps to 60mA and ships them out. From my calculations, that was only about 40% plate dissipation. That is just way too cold for any amp. I calculated for 60%, which was about 86mA. Turned up the bias pot to that setting and the amp came to life. It sounded warmer, had better dynamics, the high-end spikes were tamed, and the nasty mid honk was gone. Literally everything I thought was wrong with it was fixed. It was like a completely different amp than it was when I first got it home. Cleans sounded lovely like a proper Fender should. I would highly recommend you guys turn that bias knob up so the tubes can work properly. It's actually a very enjoyable amp to play through now. I never understood why Fender set them up so coldly. It definitely sounds like how it was meant to sound when biased correctly.
@davidkieltyka9
@davidkieltyka9 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, Fender (and some other amp makers too) biases cold from the factory to extend power tube life.
@christopherodomisto5997
@christopherodomisto5997 4 жыл бұрын
Well that's strange: my HRD IV has way too much low-end... sounds like a bass If I want it to. No problems with the mid-range, no spiky treble.... How can we share about gear if we all have opposite experiences with the same pieces of gear? Ha, that's a topic for a new TPS episode!
@mrsconley666
@mrsconley666 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Rydock, you are spot on. I am a Certified Fender Amplifier Technician. When a coworker called fender and asked about this and "correcting" the bias, we were told it would void the warranty. It is however a very popular modification most make post-warranty phase. Fender says they designed it that way for a reason, and I suspect it has to do more with making it through the 90day warranty for tubes than tone. Cheers!
@marcuskruse1
@marcuskruse1 4 жыл бұрын
23:29 is the same idea as using a preamp pedal into the effects loop of amp, such as the Page but with an OD. Nice one!
@bleeknoir
@bleeknoir 4 жыл бұрын
Booster Fiend. TPS Lover. Thank you for turning a hideous week around so quickly.
@jbognap
@jbognap 4 жыл бұрын
Even though I use a multi-fx unit, I still gain useful strategies from TPS - eg. the section about using the EP boost into the EP compressor for a better clean feel is something I will experiment with. 👍
@PedalsFriends
@PedalsFriends 4 жыл бұрын
Coffee, cake ... that pedal show 😄 I love fridays
@guitarfreak585
@guitarfreak585 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things to do lately is to stack an Ep Booster into a Greer Lightspeed into a Tumnus, all with very little gain, but with the levels all above unity. It is sooooo touch sensitive, and gives a great feel especially when rolling off the volume knob on your guitar. Its fantastic.
@mariodriessen9740
@mariodriessen9740 4 жыл бұрын
That's pretty similar to what I have and use. In the same order. My Lightspeed is on atleast 80% of the time.
@guitarfreak585
@guitarfreak585 4 жыл бұрын
@@mariodriessen9740 same here. I love the crispness and tint bit of compression it gives.
@ththejackjumper
@ththejackjumper 4 жыл бұрын
I've discovered the trick where I put a volume control in the effects loop of my Hot Rod Deluxe. Totally tames it down and you can blast that preamp and get some compression
@dubccoverseer
@dubccoverseer 4 жыл бұрын
Exists as a product... JHS Little Black Amp Box, or Carl's Effects Original Volume Box Guitar Amp Attenuator, or even a Donner EMO-AMP Controller Signal Converter... etc
@patrickfitzgerald2861
@patrickfitzgerald2861 4 жыл бұрын
How did you do it? Wired in or some type of pedal?
@ththejackjumper
@ththejackjumper 4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickfitzgerald2861 It's a box with a knob. Got it from a local guy, but he also sells on Reverb, I think. Search for 'bark arrestor'
@johnbeloe
@johnbeloe 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to watching this! Incidentally, two best boosts I've ever had are the preamp in the Fulltone Tube TTE and the preamp in the Effectrode TubeVibe. Effect turned completely off. Then both function as a pure clean boost but they just have that extra magic :)
@ThemFuzzyMonsters
@ThemFuzzyMonsters 4 жыл бұрын
johnny bwinger Those pedals that just make everything better just for being in the signal chain are my favorite. The Solo Dallas pedal is like that, and so is the EP pre-amp (although not the Xotic EP-Booster).
@jonoftheford
@jonoftheford 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding boost you didn’t know you had. The Blues Driver can clean boost with the drive turned all the way down and the tone control allows for treble tuning. This is not an uncommon feature on overdrives. The Tubescremer’s frequent use as a “low/no gain mid boost” being a notable example. As a callback to last weeks show, some customized fuzz face circuits like the MXR Variac which is capable of higher than “normal” headroom can be set up for a fantastic slightly dirty boost with the fuzz set full ccw and the voltage set full cw to 15V. Photocell univibes like the Deja Vibe when set to vibrato mode with the intensity turned all the way down can add very nice warm boost; the Dunlop FET based version can boost too. The Echoplex preamp which the EP booster is based while technically a “full frequency” boost does add some subtle compression and a slight treble roll off which is a big part of what makes it so musical. The MXR Mini Boost is based on the EP Boost concept but allows for the treble to be further adjusted to suit and thus makes for a superb line driver where cable capacitance is a concern. I’d love to see someone make a full featured preamp based on the Echoplex design with treble, mid and bass controls bookended by EP circuits allowing the ability to gain stage within the pedal and throw in an effects loop just for kicks.
@SeanMRoberts
@SeanMRoberts 4 жыл бұрын
“Is there any way of losing that horrific treble?” Here I was thinking. That sounded amazing. Funny how deeply subjective taste in tone is. So many of my biggest influences have extremely bright guitar tones. D Boon, Steve Albini, Billy Bragg, Paul Weller, Carl Barat etc.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! Indeed. Hearing it back, it was way more harsh in the room. I think Fraser may have tamed some high end on this whole mix. Me too for what it’s worth - thought it sounded great in the vid!
@JimmyDevere
@JimmyDevere 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow That was my thought exactly: harsh amps live can sound very different recorded depending on the mic and processing.
@TyRobertsmedia
@TyRobertsmedia 4 жыл бұрын
One man’s tone is another man’s noise.
@Pandamasque
@Pandamasque 4 жыл бұрын
30:40 I use a similar trick with 'un-boosting' a overdrive, but I use a compressor. My Catalinbread DLS is set up to sound like a breaking up Marshall, but I can turn the compressor on (set below unity gain, mild compression, blend at 50%) and turn the DLS into an almost clean Marshall. The trick is that compression allows maintaining a similar 'average' volume level, but without the spikes that would push that virtual Super Lead into the dirt territory, yet still achieving what ends up sounding like valve saturation.
@ludlow555
@ludlow555 4 жыл бұрын
Got super excited to hear the Storm, which was brilliant. Also loved the Supa-Boost, which reminded me of my beloved Moog Boost with more EQ-shaping potential. The Moog is cool because you could use an expression pedal as a solo-boost for an always-on option.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 4 жыл бұрын
The Storm into a Marshall is really great. We should have done that really. :0)
@ludlow555
@ludlow555 4 жыл бұрын
That Pedal Show Angus would have definitely sued, no matter what you played! 😆
@khai_nomore8613
@khai_nomore8613 4 жыл бұрын
I am waiting patiently for Blue on boosters. Starting with the EP Booster is just right.
@BleedBlueNYR1994
@BleedBlueNYR1994 2 жыл бұрын
The storm into the matchless is heavenly. Also that switchover from the hot rod to the matchless just proves how nice those amps sound.
@Johnsormani
@Johnsormani 6 ай бұрын
The big trick in the early plexi days was to use a treble booster. This didn’t just boost the input level but added more treble frequencies, which in itself caused more gain in the first preamp stage of a tube amp . It didn’t actually sound that much more trebly at all in most cases
@AlbusBand
@AlbusBand 4 жыл бұрын
All I wanna know, is did it hurt when you tone angels fell from heaven? Always the highlight of my non-performing week. Love you guys. -Aaron
@701malibu
@701malibu 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time anybody has been able to explain boost to me. Many thanks.
@gregoryvpencheff3091
@gregoryvpencheff3091 4 жыл бұрын
In the mid 80's when we didn't have all this fancy **** you kids have today (nor did I have any money to buy pedals) my pedal board consisted of a Boss CE-2 chorus, Boss GE-7 EQ and an Ibanez Tube Screamer... the one with the square footswitch. EQ into Screamer into Chorus (I think. it was a long time ago). I had a Music Man HD 130 2-12 (cleaner than Mother Theresa and loud as sin) amp. I remember setting the EQ pedal peaked at 800 hz sloping down from both sides to unity, and that was my solo boost. It worked at the time. The point being that no matter how loud your amp is, (and our stage volume was god awful loud) in a live club scenario, a mid to high mid boost will always cut through better than a full range boost. You don't need anything below 100hz or anything above 4khz to solo.
@stephendixon8575
@stephendixon8575 4 жыл бұрын
Well, yet again boys you’ve completely blown my mind with subject material that, on first reading the episode title, I thought would be dull; I could not have been more wrong! Wow, that that bloody fascinating. It also managed to piece together lots of other bits of knowledge that I’ve picked up from watching your show and just kinda bring it all together 👍 Brilliant. Thank you ever so much. You guys are a real gold mine of information I’ve wanted to know for years but never known the right questions to ask or where to start to get there. Cheers guys
@murfmurphy6212
@murfmurphy6212 4 жыл бұрын
Great show guys. I am putting a strat specific 5 pedal mini board together and I wanted to include the EP and the SP, and I've been going back and forth on where to put the EP in the order. I learned something new today, thanks Mick, definitely going with the EP in front of the SP, thats why I tune in every week. Top Notch.
@plantagenant
@plantagenant 4 жыл бұрын
I love the way Dan closes his eyes and sort of savours the guitar sounds whatever they're like, and usually says something like "that's amazing!". I seriously think if I plugged a guitar into an AC30, turned it up flat out and then kicked the whole lot down the stairs he'd say..."that was awesome!".
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahah!!!!
@xMasterxRazorx
@xMasterxRazorx 4 жыл бұрын
Happy to see you playing the LP again. Such an awesome guitar.
@zbqb84a
@zbqb84a 4 жыл бұрын
Good gravy the EP -> SP -> Clean Amp sound was fantastic. I need to give that a shot and thankfully I already have those pedals. Yay me!!
@neilslade
@neilslade 4 жыл бұрын
I simply use a 10 band EQ instead of a boost (like the EP boost) The EQ, does exactly the same thing- plus I can easily tweak the amount of low/high added using the sliders instead of internal dip switches. Yes, I A/B'd against an EP boost- identical result. Bigger, yes, but not a problem for me-
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t do //exactly// the same thing because, depending on the EQ, the boost will be achieved in a different way. But very similar, yes, quite probably. Cheers!
@neilslade
@neilslade 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow Well, of course, depending on how you set the EQ level and frequency. Given, the EP booster (and similar clones) will add +3db highs and lows depending on the DIP switches.- What I did is A/B'd against my a regular EP boost pedal, and set the EQ's selected high and low frequencies at about +3db gain- couldn't tell any difference whatsoever, and I listened very carefully. The advantage of the EQ pedal is that you can pick and choose what frequencies you would like to tweak, whereas the plain boost, you are pretty much stuck with the internal preset frequencies. The EQ allows for wide flexibility in frequency tailoring and amount. That being said, if the EQ pedal doesn't allow 18volt power, the EP booster (at 18v) will give you a little more headroom. And of course, if your pedal board space is limited, the EQ will take up a smidgen more room. Thanks- Neil
@charleslivingston803
@charleslivingston803 2 жыл бұрын
I learned something this weekend - don’t ever, ever, ever discount the effectiveness of compression. Like many of us I grew up playing crappy amps with zero dynamic range (or sounded terrible on the transients), so I wrote off compression as unnecessary unless you play country. I also had a Rockman briefly which is ALL compression and it sounds terrible. But I discovered something after watching this video - compression applied correctly can actually *correct* your tone. I’ve been struggling to get that “big 60’s Marshall in meltdown” sound (Cream, JHE, etc) with pedals but something was always missing. Finally stumbled on it - at that insane volume there was a LOT of compression happening which altered the character of the overdrive. You can’t replicate that at small stage volume without adding extra compression. Thanks again D & M - every time I think I know pretty much everything I need to, they prove me wrong!
@bradbarbour23
@bradbarbour23 4 жыл бұрын
I love the boost on the Analogman KoT? Gain into boost on that pedal is magic!
@edwardosanchez125
@edwardosanchez125 4 жыл бұрын
Such an inspiring 54 minutes. I play a Roland JC40 as it is sufficiently loud for playing in a band but also portable enough to lug around on trains/underground/buses for someone who doesn't drive. However, I find with a Telecaster (MIJ Jerry Donahue 5 way switching) it can all be painfully bright - to the point I'm regularly turning down the tone nob and having amp settings for treble at 2 or 3. I think your 7th idea with compression and boost utilising FX loop will definitely be worth trying out ... yet more rearranging of the pedal board to go! Thank you again for all endless manners of ideas to play around with!
@jaycoyoyo
@jaycoyoyo 4 жыл бұрын
I run a boost into my SP Compressor and really like it as well. Great video today guys!
@timcat8382
@timcat8382 4 жыл бұрын
Dan! OMG! At 35.22 you start playing some sublime guitar for several minutes. I wish I had both your chops, anyway.
@jeremiahmountain2460
@jeremiahmountain2460 4 жыл бұрын
Great show guys! Glad to see Dan rock that middle position on his Les Paul, even if was only for 8 seconds haha
@breeky_nassau341
@breeky_nassau341 4 жыл бұрын
Good show. I use my boost (em-drive) to lift me a bit closer to unity with my next gain stage so when I go from clean to OD it doesn't scare anyone. I find my OD pedals come alive at a certain volume. I also use a Klon clone (ryra) for my clean, cut-through-mix sound, and as a solo boost after my ODs.
@paulbird3488
@paulbird3488 4 жыл бұрын
Great show guys! Thanks to this I found out that my tremolo pedal is also an excellent boost pedal, if I turn everything down and just have the pedal on! Need to buy another tremolo pedal now!
@rickya3877
@rickya3877 4 жыл бұрын
The compressor sounded great (and treble boosters rule!)
@MathewsGuitarWorks
@MathewsGuitarWorks 4 жыл бұрын
Xotic EP Boost is the gold standard for single knob boosters. My EP > Carbon Copy Deluxe 👌
@LodvarDude
@LodvarDude 4 жыл бұрын
I have the D&M-Drive from Keeley. Mick, your are my solo-boost. Last in the OD-chain, sweet midrange presence. Mad Professor Forest Green Compressor -> Boss Angry Driver (Mostly using the BD) -> D&M. Then into a Walrus Defcon 4 for further tone-shaping before entrering the realm of delays and tremolo (Walrus Arp-87 and Monument). The glory of gain-stacking, indeed. Thanks for the show!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 4 жыл бұрын
Bjorn, I am humbled. Glad it works for you man!
@smarkalet9078
@smarkalet9078 4 жыл бұрын
20:09 the question of the day. 21:38 the answer most wished to not be given. Cheers anyway boys. Loved the show. As always.
@KristofferVad
@KristofferVad 4 жыл бұрын
Being a long-time follower of TPS, most of the 10 ways were known to me - but still very enjoyable. For an 11th way - I personally use a boost in my wet-dry setup to level out the volume difference between the dry and wet amp, which has more headroom than the dry, and as such will be significantly louder when boosted by drive pedals.
@RPSartre01
@RPSartre01 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh I wish you included the Xotic super sweet and super clean - they are awesome! I'm even questioning the need for my KOT anymore!
@spiltmilk615
@spiltmilk615 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve just adopted point #1, replacing an always-on buffer with a mostly-on Chase Tone Secret Preamp. I had no idea how artificial the top end of the buffer sounded until I made the switch.
@tcause
@tcause 4 жыл бұрын
That Collings single p90 always... and I mean always sounds bloody great.
@Frostylyxxx
@Frostylyxxx 2 жыл бұрын
I have a deluxe and the volume is unbelievable. I use it for church, unmiced, and 2 is plenty enough, but it’s definitely one of the best pedal platforms.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
5 is where ours comes alive.
@hillsmith
@hillsmith 4 жыл бұрын
Also, much to your chagrin, I used to run an old DOD 500 series compressor (the big orange label one, 18 volt) with the comp on about 3 and the output way up into a Peavey Stereo Chorus 400 solid state amp with the pre set just a tad dirty. Clean channel set clean. Channel switching. The output of the DOD overdrove the ss pre and it sounded good! Scorpion speakers, 2x12, was not bad. There’s an amp I’ll never see on here! That pedal was pretty cool, though. Ended up selling it for more than I paid for it new. Good times!
@ionobelisk
@ionobelisk 4 жыл бұрын
That Collins Junior always sounds fabulous. Quite high on my IWOOT list....
@DavidWilliams-iq3eu
@DavidWilliams-iq3eu 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a used 290 a few years ago. I’m a pretty rubbish guitar player, but even I can tell it has something special.
@USMarine75
@USMarine75 4 жыл бұрын
Mick convinced me to buy one.... a dog hair 290, and it’s fantastic.
@MrAngryTwinkie
@MrAngryTwinkie 4 жыл бұрын
Brian Setzer is a guy who is huge on using the preamp from the RE-301 as well... plus the delay for a bit of slapback into a 6G6-b Bassman.
@tulk3747
@tulk3747 4 жыл бұрын
Every time I see Butters I always think of a well worn, lightly chewed, Yellow No 2. Pencil :) Some of the better sounds I've heard on it. Great show guys!
@levieuxjurassien1665
@levieuxjurassien1665 3 жыл бұрын
once more need to express my gratitude! ESPECIALLY this fantastic outlinig you did on the actual content WITH all the links in the description!!! THAT was a work in itself i quess? THAT is worth a lot!!! my warm thanks to the guy who did that! i guess you´re just a great team at TPS^^!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 3 жыл бұрын
You’re most welcome 🙏
@gcvrsa
@gcvrsa 4 жыл бұрын
My pedal for Thing 1 is the big tc electronic Spark booster. It sort of serves an an "amplifier simulator" on my pedalboard, always on. My Mesa F-50 sounds brilliant on its own, but the Spark makes it even better. I set it just a hair over unity volume, with the gain just below where it starts to overdrive with no other pedals on. My pedal for Thing 2 is a Spark mini (going into a One Control/BJFe Honey Bee Overdrive. I'm planning on swapping the Spark mini for a One Control/BJFe Granith Grey booster, because the Honey Bee has a 370 KΩ input impedance, while the Spark mini is 1 MΩ, so there's a little bit more treble lift when I kick in the Spark mini. The Granith Grey is 500 KΩ. My Thing 3 pedal is another Spark mini, right after the Honey Bee. I guess you could say my Thing 8 boost is the tc electronic BodyRez, which I originally bought for my piezo bass. Then I decided to change my bass pedalboard to a Boss pedalboard, and repurposed the BodyRez as an acoustic-electric pedal, but it also sounds massive on magnetic pickups.
@gcvrsa
@gcvrsa 4 жыл бұрын
You can understand my impedance issue by listening to that Z.Vex SHO, with its 5 MΩ input (I believe). Huge treble lift.
@Grant_Ferstat
@Grant_Ferstat 4 жыл бұрын
Just watched this again. What it proved to me is that for someone who is 80% a tele guy, the right compliment to that might be a guitar with filtertrons.
@TheDarinAmes
@TheDarinAmes 4 жыл бұрын
Great episode, Lads. An approach I use I use is to always have my Origin Effects Cali 76 Deluxe on going into my Mad Professor Simble PreDriver. It provides me just enough "give" so the feel is there and the Simble gives a beautiful base tone that I can stack almost any overdrive on top and have lovely control. I love the FX loop boost idea. Gotta try that.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Cali 76 and Simble. Wonderful! Just as a suggestion, try them the other way around with a bit of clean blend on the Cali... try it. Mick here. :0)
@TheDarinAmes
@TheDarinAmes 4 жыл бұрын
Will do! Thanks Mick!
@northof50now
@northof50now 4 жыл бұрын
I just saw GE Smith play in his Masters of the Telecaster tour. In the middle of the second song of the set, he popped on the Topanga - what a tone "over-driven-reverb." It was spectacular. I own 2 Fender amps with spring reverb tanks. But, that Topanga is something else.
@brandonb2623
@brandonb2623 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite videos you have done for quite a while! Nice work guys.
@JacobViSTL
@JacobViSTL 4 жыл бұрын
After the mention of John Mayer‘s “Clokey“ tube screamer tone, I revisited the TS10 setting in my bonsai and … bro
@JimmyDevere
@JimmyDevere 4 жыл бұрын
Dan you had a great "Tone moment" at around the 37:00 mark. Gorgeous tone and playing.
@9418matthew
@9418matthew 4 жыл бұрын
Dan and Mick, just wanted to say you guys are great. I love Fridays for many reasons and TPS just rounds it off! I've learned so much, not least, that I need more pedals lol
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Matthew!
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