league player touching grass ? XDDDD good joke, thats a green screen bud

Went down to comment this

I mean, he doesn't play anymore

This man is in front of a green screen 😂

@@dubtroll you can see the grass moving as he moves his feet

Thank you for making the post, really interesting as ex-league player. Do you still play league now? What games are you playing currently?

@@z3roshark I still play league occasionally but quit ranked a few seasons ago, I mainly just play ARAM and follow the pro scene. I had a lot more time 10 years ago so I don’t really play many games these days but I loved Baldur Gate 3 and the only other games I play are Chess and OSRS. Glad you enjoyed the post! :)

@@EthanSierra48whats your chess rating?😊

Your post brought back so many memories of League from back then, I honestly forgot about. Crazy how we thought more game modes and maps would just keep coming and yet 10 years later, all we got is ARAM and SR. Forever wishing they would bring back twisted treeline

this is where I'm at. I play TFT and ARAMs with friends. I have all the time in the world now (disabled) but competitive league makes me incredibly anxious these days. still watch pro games on occasion! as far as MOBAs I play pokemon unite since I can play from bed. lol. @@EthanSierra48

If anyone ever calls me a time capsule, I think I will start crying

i thought the same reading the video title

Same. It's the closest I can get to having those days back.

Honestly. His runescape video on why pvp is so exciting is my absolute favorite.

the nicest way to say someone fell off lol

Just hijacking to add onto this; I don't know about other places, but at least here in Denmark I know that CS is regularly broadcast on tv, with local casters and such. I don't know if League gets the same treatment though, since I imagine a big part of CS being popular enough to broadcast is because of the success of Astralis

@@T0NI_ Same for Spain

​@@T0NI_I know that in Poland LEC is being brodcast on TV

@@T0NI_Denmark has some great players across the decades and maybe that’s the point. Lots of those players played through source or 1.6, CS:GO, and will continue being there for fans in CS2. That said, Sweden surely takes the ‘CS success’ title of all time and it’s popularity there reflects it.

My time in poland, the every-day person was familiar with one of Pashabiceps, Byali, Neo, Taz or Snax, even if they had never heard of Counter-Strike.

I feel it's worth mentioning, I remember seeing a parody champion spotlight of the Raptor camp as a playable character and the predicted move det of the Raptors are very similar to Nafiri's

Same. Ever since 3s got removed I've basically stopped playing, and I'd been playing since late season 2/early season 3. The reason being that when I was younger I had so much free time that I didn't mind a wasted game now and then due to playing with randoms, but as my time got more limited I began only wanting to play with friends to reduce the likelihood of trolls/flaming/pointless games. The only way I could do that consistently was in 3s, so I became dedicated 3s player for a long time, so when 3s went so did I.

There’s a new arena mode you should try it fast games

I literally quit the game when TT was removed. TT was the only thing keeping me playing after all those years, because it was my favorite gamemode. I hated the game for years, but TT was worth playing, and then killing it, just made the game pointless to play. I played a lot of dominion too, but didn't get to experience it for long since I started in the beginning of s3, I was so sad when it left.

Arena fuckin sucks they shouldve just brought back dominion or ascension with slight changes

I was a huge fan of hide and seek. Me and my friends still play it on summoners rift, but its just not the same without dominion.

Riot has been pushing you to play some Mages in the bot lane but y'all refuse to fuckin do it. Meanwhile we have Pantheon and Sett as supports along with basically a dozen mages whos sole function is waveclearing, relegated to Support because they have zero lane pressure OR scaling compared to bruisers and assassins that now centralize midlane. Karthus is a Jungler, Syndra is a Bot carry, and Heimer is a support now, because mage items are so utterly awful

I remember a lane swap or the funneling strat was a new way to play the game. Heck even support item in lane. Sucks that those strats were gutted with top lane turrets take less damage early, and support item takes less gold with increasing minion cs. So stupid to gut all those strats

Wasn't the case for Dota. Icefrog absolutely made sure that the Jungler role will never come back ever again and it's for the better. Besides the rich support is somewhat similar in playstyle compared to League's jungler role anyway. You're just very active on roaming but don't neglect your responsibilities as a support.

@@Nazuiko They keep trying to force champions with high base damage solo laners into the botlane and its so cancer. These champs basically play the same as in solo lanes but with a bit less gold. The adc is then left alone for the rest of the game.

In all fairness, having a standarized meta like this is really good for soloQ, where it's harder to coordinate strategies. This way, everyone knows more or less what their role will be. And Riot has made some efforts trying to diversify the kinds of champions that are played in each role, tryign to make mages viable in the bot lane while making champs like darius or talon viable in the jungle, or even creating champs designed to fill specific niches such as Kindred for an adc jungler.

I still remember talking and hyping the release of Agri with friends, lmao

Zac and Diana have both been reworked two times.

@@CausticTitan only mini-reworks. Diana is literally the same except R became a new ultimate. Zac was eventually reverted to release.

@@Kepitano zac q is different after all reworks - his old old Q was a skillshot that had two parallel hitboxes (kind of like one thick one) that his arms stretched onto and slowed on hit, that's all it did, diana E was moved to R and then added the explosion at the end, while had R was moved to her E Just being a bit pedantic. :)

im still getting used to the new caster minion animation

Some of my funniest moments with league was on twisted treeline with my friends

yeah, it doesn't help either that back then pros were the best of the best, now days they dont even play soloq since the get dunked on my random diamond players.

@@Kurto. Yeah. I think the skillset has separated now. As you say they were the best at solo queue back then. Now they arent, or just don't care as much. It's like pro is a different game to solo queue now.

​@@smackheadsgyro i feel like it was kind of inevitable for this to happen. both soloq and pro players are playing and improving to be the best they can be, and to get to the top on soloq requires individual play, whereas pro play is all team play. its only natural as players approach the pinnacle of this that top soloq players wouldn't be the greatest team players for a pro team and top pros not the greatest individual players for soloq

In the west maybe. Theyre even more popular now in the east.

Never knew the Ultraliga was being broadcasted on live TV. Seems quite cool tbh Edit: For one moment I imagined the EMEA Masters being broadcasted on TV like a sort of Eurocup, it would be awesome

In latinamerica ESPN 3 does Broadcast LoL (and many others eSports)

You really think developers would take inspiration from their competitors? Just look at all the drama with developers harassing the people behind Baldur's Gate 3 and their massive success. Laughable that developers working in the same field can try and make fun or point out how "bad" some elements to a game is whilst the company they work for are a bunch of jokers who doesn't know what a "good game" is.

​@@ZeroiusProductionwhat competitors are you talking about? The comments is talking about listening to the community. Is the community the competition?

@@ZeroiusProduction what are you on about?

​@@ZeroiusProduction you can't compare Baldur's Gate 3 to League

​@@VENGENCE150 Then lemme rephrase. If y'all think Riot actually listens to their community the game woulda been in a better state then it is, people would get punished by all their in game action far worse then it is atm. When you can troll a game, go afk and not get punished and harass people for weeks and Riot decides to not intervene and not straight up permanently ban them? that's an issue in itself.

Same started in 2001 i was 10 now im 45 how time flies 😂

wassuuup :D

Same bro 😂

same man I'm turning 21 next October.

I started back in the very end of season 5 when I was 12, now I'm 21 as well. damn :'D I have so much nostalgia whenever I watch old league stuff so I can't even imagine what kind of overwhelming feelings it must create for u guys

Can't believe people thought there was going to be more maps 💀 (I'm people)

game is poorly balanced because they try to make pro play exciting and all social aspects of league got removed. its bad

It's just that the game lost its original magic, but didn't gain anything, it just remained stale, and nowadays in the online world staying in the same spot and walking backwards are almost synonyms...

nah is bad, is just not balanced at all, can someone tell me how does Hecarim keep escaping nerfs?? and not only him, there is also Kindred,Evelynn,Kha'Zix and many more and this is only on the role I play.. is just disgusting and what do we get? ADC and Support buffs and nothing else... very nice

It probably wouldn't be the same but the days when there was public chat rooms was really fun

i hope this hiving ces pit crashes and burns i mean leauge is a decent game by itself just such a shame you have to share it with 9 disgusting animals every game

yes?

Now were going to have a 2v2v2v2v2v2v2v2

Oh hell yeah i used to watch stonewall too

Same. Moved on around se5. I have good memories about league tbf. I even remember this post (probably commented on it). It was a different community back then

never forget the funnel meta

I wish that the AP and bruiser botlanes hadn't been so abandoned, those diferent play styles were pretty fun and unique, although the killing of ADCs was way overboard

the only reason you dont see more Ziggs, Veigar, Heimer, Seraphine, Swain, Karthus, Aurelion, etc bot laners is because players are cowards that are overly obsessed with picking ranged auto attackers in bot lane.

@@geroni211 I hit diamond playing only syndra adc u can do it if u just full mute every noob that has something to say . I love it when my top/jg go 0/11 and blame me for not being able to carry as a the only winning lane cause apparently i'd be able to if i was a "real adc".

@@Siegram999how do you know that if you’re already muted them all? Fk them

I guess because as gamer we know that the players make the team. I mean teams still have tradition, staffs and orgs back up with their distinctive mottos, banners and names but really the biggest thing that keeps the fan around in traditional sports is the association with places they represent (cities/states), that is their identity while in LoL teams it just doesnt exist

it's because back then it was more personal, the pros were not PR machines, and were not required to have a stoic personality on the stage, Xpeke laughing, joking, even trolling the cast, Cyanide being well Cyanide, Ocelote being kind this bad guy Froggen only knowing how to play Anivia,Demon king who became so dominant teams banned his champions and RIOT nerfed whatever he played pretty much, there were always stories similar to even recently in DOTA 2 we had Liquid who became pretty much cult classic players in one night, the casters there also joke more and keep the relaxed atmosphere where even at the biggest tournament of the year one of their casters goes and trash talks random fans, gives them free stuff and so on. League of Legends pro scene died when they made it corporate. High production value is good and should be something to strive for, but you can't make it feel corporate or you'll lose the magic. That and LoL pro scene has stagnated to same champions every year,same build paths in every game, same bans and so on, you can't innovate. like early on we had sudden Riven mid picks because she "countered" Leblanc and could go toe to toe with Kassadins, Kha'ziks could go mid and go full on assassin and get ahead, Zed was a thing, when has that been a thing in proplay? tanks were actual tanks and not just statsticks that if given chance would run down people all by themselves, we had Twisted fate being picked as a counter to certain strategies and more.. now it's.. the same 3-5 champions in every role every single game.

@@quanleanh6548 TBH I'd say it's because of the focus on players instead of teams. I mean, it wasn't all that uncommon for players to change teams and/or regions between seasons, and there's nothing for a player to get attached to. When the team comps can just be shuffled around, the teams themselves are limited to only like 7 in each region at most, and how obvious that each team was just a money grab by an organization who wasn't emotionally invested in the scene, it's pretty easy to see why people just slid off of having 'their' team. We see the player shuffling happen all the time in more physical teams but people still get attached to 'their' teams, even if they don't live anywhere close to where they're based off of.

Same. I hope someday we will get league classic or something tho. Im tired of the fortnite skins and anime characters

I really hoped arena would be like that but all of the teams were on the same big new map. I wonder if they ever released their queue algorithms/systems because people really did play dominion, ascension, and TT more than anything else, even when queue times were bad (they still are in a lot of ranked divisions and servers.) It's kinda gross that theyd say that nobody played them, and new players might not get to experience the better fruits of someone's creation just because of management changes and cost cutting.

I think the main issue is that it pulled people from regular and ranked games making those queue times worse. When not enough people are playing the regular mode then you get rid of other modes. I hardly played the standard map until the others were completely removed.

No it was me.

The new items and whatnot back in 2018 (or whenever I quit) was what drove me away. Too many new items, new broken mechanics, and complete reworks (essentially champion deletions). And Ninja Tabis got renamed! 😢

@@saturnalia91 I still play today and absolutely still call the armor boots ninja tabis, the new "rocket" belt protobelt and the new gauntlet frostfire. I refuse to give in

@@Law-_ I hopped on recently and my entire team went “wtf is a pink ward???” Immediately made me feel old af lmao. Guess people actually call them red/control wards now

@@Law-_ I might recall this incorrectly, but wasn't Iceborn Gauntlet the original name before it was replaced by Frostfire Gauntlet?

Never did i expect to hear the Bundesliga be mentioned on this channel haha. Much respect, Gbay!

@@davidcouto1697 My friend, were you not here when he did his football manager spell taking over Kaiserslautern? What a fun little series.

Yeah the Gabaslibia definitely hit different back in the day 😅

Timestamp?

@@RawBerserker nah, had no clue. I'll definitely have to check it out then. Preciate the insight

Thing is, MOBAs and League itself are old news and once you start spiraling downwards it's hard, almost impossible to grow back into a juggernaut as there will always be other games that will be more updated, polished and well new. Next time we get something new and exciting in MOBA market, it will most likely either be DOTA 3, LoL2, or something completely new that plays very different to League or Dota like Heroes of the storm tried to but ultimately failed due to Blizzards incompetence. While we wait on the next MOBA to revitalize the genre the games will drop off, players will go to greener pastures and that is normal. As i said, other games will come, things better or differently and innovate, but if you try to innovate on your existing IP you run the risk always of alienating your core player base (kind of like League has done for quite awhile) and while alienating your audience you might not grasp new players attention because the game is indeed 10+ years old, new players will feel they are too late, that they missed the train so to speak. Similar thing happens in fighting games al the time, kind of why they make new ones and not just DLCs for the older games, because older games at some point wont see any rise in player base and their players will get older, stop playing or want to play other stuff, but by making new games they keep it "fresh" and they can innovate on gameplay, make changes and more without making their core audience feel like they have no game to return to.

@@FaceFish9 Sadly Riot declared that it is to much work to reprogram League on a new Code. So only hope might be a Dota3 but it had to be easier to play and get in since the difficulty is a threshold why it doesn't has an even bigger Comunity than League

@@einfachdaniel3659 Funnily i don't think it's the "difficulty" that is the problem, it's just that Valve never really helped with learning it, things like warding, high ground, low ground, night/day cycles, pulling camps at certain times to stack them up for your carry, or pulling a wave of minions into the jungle to kill a camp and get killed so the enemy wont get exp, denying minions/towers gold by last hitting your own, are all things that should be taught by the game (atleast they should have a proper tutorial for them) That and the fact that League simply came first into the media which just meant it took all the old Dota players who were not sure if they liked Dota 2 from it back in the day and it grew up, sure it being more casual friendly helps, but Dota 2 as a game is much better for the difficulty, and to those who watch the games Dota 2 has much more to offer if you know what the pros are doing. Sadly both games are in the gutter cause of different things. Dota having a identity crisis of a meta for months/years now and Valve not updating it nearly as fast as they should and League meta stagnating from season 3 onwards and the community welcoming it, so now if Riot even tries to touch lets say a role like ADC to make them more self sufficient but less pain in the ass in the late game community cries immediately. if tanks are playable in the meta, guessed it, "tank meta op boohoo", oh supports can actually do something other than hope for their team to not have brain rot? must be a bad game... It's not that the game itself is horrible or the current "mythic item" idea is horrible for new players but if you've played even for a year, you know it gets boring. And thats the state League is now... people are just simply too addicted to it admit it.

Sacrifices AS***

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I had the same thought about Singed not fulfulling the "my weapon is a shield" archtype and how while he's tanky, he doesn't tank for the team. Give or take half to a full month later Braum appeared. I'm pretty sure I even posted a "I called it post" in the now non-existing League of Legends Forums

Yea its so sad, I was a core dominion player and for the few of us, they could've just left the mode available without doing a thing and we still would've played it everyday. We even had our own honor code where we don't pick certain op champs or your own teammates flame you for it. I guess now I understand how the 5 aurelion sol enjoyers feel.

Yeah, 100% this. Not to mention, both modes had around 5% of the players playing them at the time of their deletion which is a small number but is significant when you consider the popularity of LoL at the time of deletion. Considering they already weren't supporting those modes, it has always struck me as odd to remove them and alienate hundreds of thousands of players for no reason. I bet you in the current state of the game with declining interest and players, Riot probably wishes they didn't Thanos snap 10% of what they had at their peak.

Dominion getting trashed was really depressing and frustrating LMAO. Especially after the Dominions community held an event where they had Dominions players go against Summoner's Rift players and at the same approximate elo, Dominions players outperformed SR players in both maps. LMAOOOO The Dominions community was also really nice

I could see why esports would be lucrative, but i dont see why they avoided the inherent problem of basing their game around it. The only thing more stale than playing a boring game is watching someone play one, no matter how captivating the commentary or gameplay is. The short bursts of action can be so decisive and clustered that theyre really all there is to the game apart from farming, warding, and holding your own. The less the product has to do with your enjoyment, or your defying the odds, or your development of expertise, the less likely it is that people will feel personally captivated enough to spend money on the free product. It seems more tied into distant, egotistical personalities, community moderation a la stepping on heads to keep people from stepping on toes, and third-party companies with their own gains in mind, than it is to what usually gets people to appreciate a game as a sport. It's a common folly amongst developers and companies today, but perhaps it's the only profit in sight when things are economically belly-up.

A bigger problem is the balance around pro play which would be fine except they don’t allow voice communication. That means sre are playing a game balanced around voice communication with no ability to do it

"across the board" ok buddy