1000 MHz Pentium III Windows 98 Retro Gaming PC Build

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4 жыл бұрын

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@Inski584
@Inski584 4 жыл бұрын
The race to 1ghz was such an exciting time. Hasn't been anything that's had me so interested in hardware since.
@joeyvdm1
@joeyvdm1 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Exciting times they were. AMD won, followed closely by INTEL with a paper launch (no real stock available) and so I went with AMD. But the multi-core era (first dual cores and then quads) was pretty exciting for me as well. And now I find it incredible to think we have gone from 1ghz single core CPUs to the 16 core 32 thread 4ghz+ behemoths (on the desktop) that we have today. I can't deny, I still get excited. EDIT: My first PC was a 386 SX 33mhz
@yakacm
@yakacm 4 жыл бұрын
I know, and to think they talking about 10 and 20 Ghz within a few years at that time, and it just never happened, not that multiple cores and hyperthreading was foreseen, funny how things pan out, I'm so jealous of you younger guys, what you will see, I am 55 with shitty health, so I don't think I will live to see time travel, teleportation and flying cars, lol.
@SinisterPuppy
@SinisterPuppy 4 жыл бұрын
Now it's the race to 1000 cores! Nowhere near as exciting. :(
@LocoMe4u
@LocoMe4u 4 жыл бұрын
@@tobiaspedersen5427 yeah you could easily use a core 2 quad to browse the web stuff
@AG-pm3tc
@AG-pm3tc 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that is insane, and to think that just 2-3 years before that, they were selling 83 MHz Pentium overdrive
@kiba3x
@kiba3x 4 жыл бұрын
I really like how old BIOSes look, so clean ...
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
LOL so true. These days, spinning fan animations and weird UI
@Mini-z1994
@Mini-z1994 4 жыл бұрын
@@philscomputerlab Yep, socket 1366, AM3 & 1156,1155 was probably among the last before UEFI was starting too get used more commonly.
@r92king
@r92king 4 жыл бұрын
You can choose classic view in UEFI at least in Gigabytes's mobos(I used 3 only Giga mobos with UEFI). It also looks very clean.
@FiLiMa_
@FiLiMa_ 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen the old bios on IBM Thinkpads? The cursor was a bird!
@atman2
@atman2 4 жыл бұрын
My bios on my current pc looks like this, award bios. :)
@yakacm
@yakacm 4 жыл бұрын
Remember how exciting sound and graphics cards were back then?
@justinholmes5614
@justinholmes5614 4 жыл бұрын
I miss slot CPUs, it felt like you were getting more for your money
@joeyvdm1
@joeyvdm1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for vid Phil. I know how time consuming it must be to put together a build and make a vid out of it. But as a retro lover myself, I love seeing old hardware put to purpose. Got a few retro systems myself (always better than emulation) and for anyone learning and wanting to do the same, this is the place to come.
@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber 4 жыл бұрын
That's gotta be one of the cleanest and newest-looking Pentium III motherboard. Sexy!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
Yea I do look after my precious parts :D
@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber 4 жыл бұрын
@@philscomputerlab I picked up an extremely rare ATX-form factor Socket 7 motherboard in pristine condition. Gonna put it into a modern case I picked up with tempered glass and RGB. Retro Gamin in style!
@Seatux
@Seatux 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarcoGPUtuber Aren't you the one living in Taiwan or something? Way easier to do retro PCs there. I just have to get lucky to see a Pentium 3 for sale.
@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber 4 жыл бұрын
@@Seatux That's right. But it's actually harder to do retro PCs here than it was in Commonwealth countries like Canada, where I'm from and Australia. Taiwan doesn't really have a retro scene. Old parts are often tossed or sent to efficient recycling centres to retrieve the gold. Old games are largely in English or Japanese and despite Chinese being the largest language in the world, China's restrictiveness and laws made sure that Taiwan was the only one speaking Chinese in the world of Gaming. Taiwan is also included as part of Japan as NTSC-J where China has its own region for everything due to strict censorship laws. Taiwan didn't become developed and rich until the late 1990s. It is possible to find retro parts but in the 1990s, few had a computer and you'll almost never find an 80s machine. Offices had PCs and you know how offices are with tossing their old stuff. It's not impossible, but I was getting a lot more legit retro stuff back in Canada. The west is the best for retro hardware.
@Reziac
@Reziac 4 жыл бұрын
Dunno how rare they are, I have about a dozen here, including a couple Tyan boards. Some have AGP. Some swing both ways (can use both AT and ATX power, and both SDRAM and SIMMs). But it's a nice reliable class of board, and most will handle K6-2 (usually up to 450MHz) as well as Pentium MMX (tho if you do anything math-intensive, the 233MHz Pentium will run rings around the 450MHz K6-2 -- if you don't believe me, try running the Windows "Tubes" screensaver on both). The main drawback is that they usually max out at 256mb RAM, not that you usually need more. About as nice as you can get for an early-type gaming machine (tho can be overwhelmed by big DOOM maps). Oh, and usually you have to set jumpers for CPU voltage and frequency, and sometimes for RAM voltage too! Boy, I don't miss that part of the old days.
@Rocky-bz8wr
@Rocky-bz8wr 4 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you it is always nice to see the older tech in action. I used to have a Pentium III Tualatin 1.4 ghz that OC'ed to 1.6GHz which for it's time was pretty fast and creamed the P4's that replaced these P3's. I think if memory serves me right I had a ATI Radeon 9700 card in this system in 2002 and it also supported DX9. Yep those were good times and things were so much simpler back then to deal with.
@zxcvb_bvcxz
@zxcvb_bvcxz 4 жыл бұрын
Sleep? Nah, Phil posted!
@etotako_
@etotako_ 4 жыл бұрын
How are you still not at 1 mil subs great content
@proCaylak
@proCaylak 4 жыл бұрын
if you ask portuguese people about this, they'd tell like "91 mil". so, he went way further than "1 mil" at some regions (^_^)
@chrisvig123
@chrisvig123 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly not many interested in old PCs like us 😯
@spavatch
@spavatch 4 жыл бұрын
My Pentium III 1000 build is paired with Voodoo5. What a beast!
@infinity2z3r07
@infinity2z3r07 4 жыл бұрын
If there was a retro hall of fame, Phil would have his own shrine. Thank you for helping many us rediscover our old joys!
@xDJxGNOMx
@xDJxGNOMx 4 жыл бұрын
I am passionate about 90s and early 2000s Hardware so keep it coming Phil! That's the reason i've subscribed to you in the first place.
@Left-Handed-Cat
@Left-Handed-Cat 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for this great retro video :-) I would love to see detailed soundcard reviews again. It is a great journey to investigate old cards with you, cards which we or i cant afford or doesnt even know back in the old days. Keep going your awesome vids, best regards, Axel
@yakacm
@yakacm 4 жыл бұрын
Your 4K output is great, it's so clear that when you were showing the BIOS and Windows install screens, it looked like it was being produced by my own PC, love the funky wipes too.
@mmaxeator
@mmaxeator Жыл бұрын
I could watch such videos all day. I really like the PC tech. from 1998-2002. The technology was improving so fast at that time.
@pc-sound-legacy
@pc-sound-legacy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Phil, and yes, this is exactly what I like - retro stuff below 1ghz, and of course everything with soundcards :-)
@XanCrews
@XanCrews 4 жыл бұрын
Awww yeah, Phil is back with the content I actually subscribe for! Nice.
@4bl0xx30
@4bl0xx30 4 жыл бұрын
XanCrews i too, love these pentium2/3/4 videos
@registrazioniduemillaotton6030
@registrazioniduemillaotton6030 4 жыл бұрын
Yeahhhh! P3 was and still is my favorite era of computer gaming! Thank you Phil, as usual, excellent content! :)
@flecom5309
@flecom5309 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great retro video Phil, your videos are the highlight of my week!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@fer2lance
@fer2lance 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Phil for this new video, enjoyed it a lot ! Can't wait for the next one :-)
@AugustoHetfield
@AugustoHetfield 4 жыл бұрын
Hello there! As you requested, here are my thoughts: I love this kind of videos with retro hardware and they are the reason I watch your videos. Please keep going, there is many ppl like me who enjoy retro hardware.
@baroncalamityplus
@baroncalamityplus 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and great timing. I'm working on a pentium III pc this weekend.
@Kylstein
@Kylstein 4 жыл бұрын
I love the retro stuff! I got a complete old pc second-hand that happens to have this same CPU/GPU combination, plus a SB Live. Works great for those late 90s to very-early-2000s games!
@appwraith
@appwraith 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see more retro hardware videos, and this one was excellent as well.
@DeadlyGamingLV
@DeadlyGamingLV 4 жыл бұрын
I always prefer the retro content. The DOS and Win 95/98 content is what made me sub to your channel. There's thousands of channels doing modern content but that's just my opinion. You always do such awesome content Phil. Really appreciate your videos! :)
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@supersirlink
@supersirlink 4 жыл бұрын
Found your channel from LGR, love seeing the retro hardware!
@dhgodzilla1
@dhgodzilla1 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I can't wait until spring & I can get to all my retro stuff. Going to do an inventory of what I have & maybe even sell some things, I have a lot of Piii Era stuff.
@DeViLzzz2006
@DeViLzzz2006 4 жыл бұрын
Phil forgot to say .. Thanks for this video! What a great way to start the weekend!
@utp216
@utp216 4 жыл бұрын
PHIL!! I missed this and just caught it on Sunday! Another most excellent video my man! 🤘 AOpen... now that’s a name I haven’t heard in awhile!
@Vanessaira-Retro
@Vanessaira-Retro 4 жыл бұрын
You do you Phil, Love the content either way!
@ScanlineCity
@ScanlineCity 4 жыл бұрын
Phil! These retro builds (DOS, 98, XP) are the best videos on Phil’s Computer Lab hands down. Not to mention that’s what you are known for - a legend in the scene as far as I’m concerned. Retro computer gamers have a lot to thank you for. I personally have learned nearly EVERYTHING I know from watching your videos. Keep these retro videos coming - they are loved and will continue to be loved decades from now. Thanks again for being a leader in the scene.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words!!
@macdaniel6029
@macdaniel6029 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Phil, a slot 1 P3 1000 is just beautiful.
@petertoxin5752
@petertoxin5752 4 жыл бұрын
great video, its given me a push to build an old system and im very lucky i guess to have kept about a dozen mobos and processors as well as boxes and boxes of old cards..thanks
@dycedargselderbrother5353
@dycedargselderbrother5353 4 жыл бұрын
It's really nostalgic seeing the system becoming gradually more usable as you go through the driver install and reboot process.
@Mitsou44
@Mitsou44 4 жыл бұрын
My first config had a Sound Blaster AWE 64 ISA sound card. In the volume settings under the Special button there was two magical slider "Bass" and "Treble" I think... I can't explain, but these two slider made my ears melt. When I set the sliders to max, it sounded very very good. When I try to do something similar with a mixing pad or something it's just makes certain frequancies louder and overshadows the other parts. While my soundcard highlighted those frequancies and the music sounded more clear actually. I miss the good hardware sound...
@frizfryy
@frizfryy 4 жыл бұрын
I have this cpu and motherboard in my parts. Makes this a great retro Friday
@rebeccaschade3987
@rebeccaschade3987 4 жыл бұрын
Great to see a new retro related video. Never tried a Turtle Beach soundcard either, but I do remember the days when that name was synonymous with super high-end. Turtle Beach Multisound and such. It's kind of sad to see how far they've fallen over the years. Today, gaming headphones... Back in the day, studio grade sound cards with lots of insane hardware on them (FPGA chips, Motorola MC68000 and more).
@GetJesse
@GetJesse 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, love the retro stuff.
@nitrax8629
@nitrax8629 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid, nice to see more retro stuff here! I'd love to see more sound card reviews - one I'm particularly interested in is for the Compaq Business Wavetable Sound Card. It uses a similar ES1869 chip to the one in your ESS AudioDrive video, but also includes a rather obscure ES692S chip for wavetable synthesis. It's a very similar setup to what I have in my Compaq Armada 7800, which I've been very impressed with the general MIDI quality on.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
I actually looked for such a card, and seems to be a bit if a unicorn...
@KomradeShotabollokov
@KomradeShotabollokov 4 жыл бұрын
Another very enjoyable video, Phil. I appreciate your comments at the end and I suppose older (!) subscribers may not comment as much, resulting in a slight skew of the data. For the record then; myself, and doubtless many others, really like the older 90s/early 00s builds and reviews you do. Even if the viewer stats aren’t as impressive, the content is brilliant and it’s our passion just like it is yours. 👍 Hopefully making these retro videos doesn’t wear too thin for you over time, because it would be a real loss the the channel/community if they took a back seat to the newer hardware. As a side, I just picked up a Terratec Sonicxplosion (basically the same card as the Turtle Beach) and will now have another play around with it!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the supporting words! Do share how you're finding the card!
@mesterak
@mesterak 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work Phil!
@Jwalker76
@Jwalker76 4 жыл бұрын
Love the classic P3 win 98 content. Reminds me of my celaron 533mhz I had back then. Told myself I would never buy another celaron as I had so many issues with it.
@mjlancraft
@mjlancraft 4 жыл бұрын
I had that sound card with my p4 machine back in the day, it was amazing !
@RobertoCorreaEdwards
@RobertoCorreaEdwards 4 жыл бұрын
Tanks for this Phil!!
@nicacioedu
@nicacioedu 4 жыл бұрын
Great retro content, #Phil. Thank you! :-)
@TuNk1977
@TuNk1977 4 жыл бұрын
This is almost the same as my old system, I have the same CPU, but with ATi 9800 Pro, Aopen AX63 Pro. Thanks for the video.
@franciscandie8570
@franciscandie8570 4 жыл бұрын
I loved my 1000Mhz Pentium 3, it was a socketed version iirc. It held up strong against the frist Pentium 4 chips!
@theakh4238
@theakh4238 4 жыл бұрын
I had a Celeron in my first build ever. It was a slot style AOpen motherboard, but a socket style processor. I used a daughter board called a Slotket that fit into the slot and allowed for installation of the socket CPU.
@scottrich976
@scottrich976 4 жыл бұрын
I got a Patriot laptop a while ago with a 1.3 Tualatin 512k and desktop memory. Was absolutely insane in comparison to a lot of modern machines at the time.
@Reziac
@Reziac 4 жыл бұрын
That was getting up into really slick P3 ... yep, for a while they outperformed the P4, sometimes by a wide margin!
@scottrich976
@scottrich976 4 жыл бұрын
@@theakh4238 did you have the one with jumpers so you could get the celery to over clock and play with FSB and multipliers ?
@r.f.s.8766
@r.f.s.8766 4 жыл бұрын
I could watch these retro builds to no end, so I really appreciate when you redo old videos but with a tweak here and there or only a slight improvement. Here a little story for maybe some video ideas: So what I did was going backwards with my projects, meaning I started with ddr2 because my latest build is a maxed out ddr3 system, so I build the fastest ddr2 build with Intel possible. Your videos about the modded Xeons inspired me to do that. So I got the ultimate Asus Board, one of the Xeons, a ssd, gamer ram, noctua fans etc. All the shit I couldn't afford back then, for literally peanuts. And I made different benchmarks with different videocards up to my fastest the 1080ti. And now I am working on the fastest xp build. So a dual core 64 bit on socket 939 with the famous Asrock 939 dual board I got back in the day and had still in a box somewhere but I did not have the fastest cpu, now I do :) . You also featured this board in a video. I also got all the best cards from back in the day, around 2006/07. And I want to do every system twice of each Era one with Intel and one with AMD and make benchmarks with different graphics card's and let them compete. I find that really entertaining. You inspired me to do all of that. I got a lot of stuff in the last few years, learned soldering and had a lot of fun and I am far frome done! I want to go back all the way to socket 1, because that's when I started gaming on pc, around 1998. So I would really like to see another series about the ultimate systems possible, optimized for gaming, moving backwards from ddr3 with Intel and AMD. Optimizing everything to the max with SSds, the best 4/3 Monitors and making everything the quiet, compact and/or good looking as possible. But also giving options like you did in your Xeon modding series. I did not end up buying the latest and greatest and most expensive cpu but the valueking you proposed and I was able to overclock the heck out of it because of my kickass Asus board and it's lower tdp. And now it is faster then the latest and greatest. Never would have thought about that option without your charts and Infos. My ddr2 system now runs windows 7 with the msi gtx 580 lightning 3gb edition and I play games on it like witcher 1, everything from around 2008 to 2012. I want to own one day a kick ass setup from Intel and AMD next to each other hooked up to the same monitor for every good windows version. I extra cleared a room in my house for that.... My wife was thrilled xD.... So may be this got you some inspiration. Oh and if you need cheap parts, because it seems that getting parts in Australia is really expensive. I live in Germany and the used market for example on apps like eBay Kleinanzeigen is full with cheap parts, and way cheaper than everything you are buying. You are paying at least 50% plus shipping more for your parts then I do here. And sometimes even more. So if you would need something or can't find it, you can contact me anytime and I will check if I can get the parts here and send them to you. I was really surprised in the beginning how much less I was paying then you for the same parts or I had no problems getting parts you mentioned but you could not get at all or for a reasonable price. OK that's it. Thanks a lot and keep up the good work.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
It really is a fun hobby :D Another benefit of going with older gear is that everything is patched, works reliably, motherboards are on 2nd or 3rd revision...
@danielberrett2179
@danielberrett2179 4 жыл бұрын
I like Phillday. Great Video Phil!
@spacecy
@spacecy 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Nice job mate.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@shaneeslick
@shaneeslick 4 жыл бұрын
G'day Phil, I am more interested in XP as a Retro Platform for gaming, but I still find older Machines & Software interesting, so watching these videos are enjoyable & definitely better than what is on 😁
@TechDave
@TechDave 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's great to get this true retro content every now and again Phil, keeps things changed up and atm I've been watching alot of ur older win98 videos to help with an IBM T42 Thinkpad, mainly drivers and how to actually use win98 and msdos (I haven't used either since I was about 12 years old lol- edited coz I just did the math lol)
@TechDave
@TechDave 4 жыл бұрын
Also: any recommendations on which OPL3LPT to buy? Seems like there's a lot of clones and I'm not sure what to get, mainly need it for a thinclient and the aforementioned IBM T42 for dos sound! If u happen to know a way to get a usb mouse working in msdos I wud be indebted to u!!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
I would only buy directly from serda shop!
@solreaver83
@solreaver83 4 жыл бұрын
Always loved the pentiums 3. I remember telling my mum about it and how no computer would need that kind of power
@pierregrobbelaar9116
@pierregrobbelaar9116 4 жыл бұрын
Man this bring back memories.When i upgraded to my P4 i had my P3 lying around.My friend made me a bet that it is scientific impossible to run elder scrolls 4 oblivion on a P3.I had to make him eat his words.The cpu was slot A 833mhz.They were not known for being good overclocker.So i took the stock heatsink off and mounted the biggest heatsink i could find with a huge ass fan.The heatsink was so big i had to lay my pc down cause it would pull the cpu out.I did all the chipset with heat sinks.I clocked her just over 1ghz.He said i should run it not on what specs.So i ran it at 640x480 low to medium and got around 30ish fps.Not bad for a P3 :D.Man the shit i did just to shut people up lol. Now im old i build pc's but no custom jobs anymore
@mdd1963
@mdd1963 4 жыл бұрын
Pentiums used Slot 1; the original Athlons used Slot A
@lain328
@lain328 3 жыл бұрын
Pulls out P3 Xeon dual processor motherboard, hold my beer.
@sensn90
@sensn90 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a real retro build. A worthy opponent.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
Yea it's been a while :D Always takes my brain a bit longer to get my head around the old parts LOL
@danielkaiser8343
@danielkaiser8343 4 жыл бұрын
First pc I built was an an i7 920
@Reziac
@Reziac 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if you've been away from 'em for a while, it takes some remembering all the cranks and quirks, and boy howdy, some of 'em were cranky. We've been spoiled by hardware that auto-detects and auto-configures everything, but go back to these old boards and you'd better have the jumper settings correct if you want it to work; most had no autodetect and no overvoltage control, and would cook a CPU that expected lower power. And the AMD CPUs of the day could overheat to death in under 30 seconds, from ice cold to brown and crispy, that fast (no overheat protection at all. Even very old Intels would turn off, but AMDs would fry.) Not to mention all the different types of RAM and voltage, not always reliably marked by slot type or slot keys, and no SPD in those days. It was sure nice when everyone got in the habit of printing the jumper options right on the board. Not like the old adapter cards where if you didn't have the jumper docs, you were SOL, especially when they had big blocks of multiple jumpers.
@lualarra1
@lualarra1 4 жыл бұрын
amazing if you really love old windows and part, IM amaze all the things u need to know to get everything going, good job
@beakermann
@beakermann 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh the good old days!! :D 486 SX/DX video next.. wait ya did one 5yrs ago, bummer. Keep up the great vids!!!
@modernandretrogaming
@modernandretrogaming 4 жыл бұрын
Great as always, I just build a machine with Celeron 433, Riva TNT2-M64 on ECS P6BAT-A+ mainboard and I use also 98SE there. I even ran there for some time S3VirgeDX, SiS6326. SiS6326 have some weird colors in some dos games like I saw on Matrox cards.
@scottstamm7022
@scottstamm7022 4 жыл бұрын
Found your channel through OZ, you should give him a shout back. Any way, growing up my highschool friends dad had a Pentium III 650mhz OC'd to something crazy using a Cryotech case w/ a refrigerant system in the basement of the case. I remember it being the coolest things since sliced bread.
@stefanh.1131
@stefanh.1131 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the days I loved my Pentium III with Intel BX chipset and I still do. I have used it as my daily driver for years and today it is my retro build. My setup is: ASUS P2B-F, Pentium III 1Ghz, 512MB Ram, 40GB Seagate HDD with 7200 rpm, Geforce 4 TI4600, Soundblaster Live, 3Com PCI network card, DVD-Rom and CD-RW. Thanks for your videos and best wishes from Germany!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice setup!
@2Mourty
@2Mourty 4 жыл бұрын
Love the retro hardware vids!!. What I want to see you do is the different 486 upgrade chips. The pentium over drive 83 , vs the amd 133, vs the cyrix 5x86 133 which supposedly had some Pentium features. Sorry that my comment makes the perfect 486 comments 487
@cesarrodrigues9763
@cesarrodrigues9763 3 жыл бұрын
you are definitely a PC enthusiast
@savvygadgetz
@savvygadgetz 4 жыл бұрын
OMG Slot 1 I remember those! came and went pretty quick from what I remember.
@rodrigomuller
@rodrigomuller 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Phil! Love your videos and have been watching all of them for quite some time. I'm missing some old portables on your videos. I just bought a Toshiba Libretto 70CT (120MHz Pentium MMX) and will overclock it to 200MHz and was wondering if you'll ever make a review of it. Thanks and keep doing the great job you've always been doing. Cheers from Brazil!
@morthaine7389
@morthaine7389 4 жыл бұрын
Old guy here that doesn't like to comment often. I enjoy all of your videos, no complaints here. I've built a machine using various parts you recommended over the years (asrock board with LGA 775 and AGP, Celeron 450, radeon 9600 pro, and one of those "Cobra" sound cards for the good DOS support - setmul lets me play even my old favorites - also got a vortex 2 and an Audigy 2 ZS to play with). Keep up the great content, modern or retro, and I'll be watching every week. One request: an updated video on which monitors are worth pursuing? Short of hunting down CRTs (I keep getting them with blown caps) I'd like to have some idea which LCD screens are better at scaling low res DOS games. I hate stretching!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :D Good value option are old 5:4 monitors. They are still being made brand new also. BUT 4:3 and 5:4 there is a bit of vertical stretching on the 5:4 monitor, but it's subtle.
@Wushu-viking
@Wushu-viking 4 жыл бұрын
The 90s was the Golden Age of PC gaming. Especially from 1996-2000. So many good titles, and hardware innovation was epic! At that time we went from a Pentium 200 MHz to an Athlon 1.4 GHz, plus real 3D accelerated graphics and AA processing. What has happened during the last 4 years? Most exciting is 8-Core CPUs has gone Way down in price! 20 years ago we could game with less than 100W usage and have a blast. Today our 300W+ usage on our high-end gaming rig is best used during the winter (and do we really have a better gaming experience?) ;)
@feamatar
@feamatar 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I wish you could do an XP benchmarking with the same computer! It could run GTA3, Morrowing , Max Payne, Age of Mythology and maybe some games from 2003. I am not saying that it would be fast, but I was playing these on similar specs. I was using a 1200Mhz Duron from 2001 to 2006, going from 128 MB 133 Mhz to 256 MB 233 DDR, and from integrated Savage to 5200.
@valentine_puppy
@valentine_puppy 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on things like upgrading systems like the Packard Bell line of computers and their strange motherboards. I had one and used overdrives and Gpus and other things to get it to be great. Also, maybe do a video on DOS UIs that make playing dos games easier with a visual aesthetic to choose them from. Thank you for all you do.
@ND22M
@ND22M 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Phil! I also have great respect for Intel 440BX chip-set - the best Slot 1 platform. Maybe you can do a future video with this platform and 133FSB processors: stability, compatibility with video cards and performance relative to 100FSB at the same frequency. As a side note I got 2 Radeons 9250 and the funny thing I don't know how I got them!
@interlace84
@interlace84 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Phil! Hope you'll ever get to benchmarking an RDRAM-based P4 1.4/1.5 vs the highest clocked P3s :) personal interest lol
@interlace84
@interlace84 4 жыл бұрын
Annnd found your vid from March 2018!! :)) thanks m8!
@mopar3502001
@mopar3502001 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Phil. I love these old machines. I just dug an old Tyan dual P3 Tiger 230t out of the closet and put it together. It's a dual processor rig with 896MB of ram, but should run Win98 on a single CPU w/ no problem. Now I'm off to find drivers lol. Hopefully they exist for Win98. Cheers!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
For 98, stick with 512GB of RAM or 256! Chipset drivers are available on my website. The other drivers, well it can take a bit of hunting onlline. You can use XP or Linux do itentify components, or use a magnifier to check the chips on the board. Audio, ethernet and all of that.
@mopar3502001
@mopar3502001 Жыл бұрын
@@philscomputerlab I have been reading that too much ram in WFW3.11 and Win98 can cause lots of weird problems. Have you had anything like that happen? I'll head over to your website and look for drivers. I think this board has the Apollo Pro133A chipset in it. Thanks for responding too, btw!
@tunkunrunk
@tunkunrunk 2 жыл бұрын
Wow ! Brings back memories, I had plenty of slot 1 motherboards, but they all died . It would be good to put a sata Hdd using Sata to IDE adapters
@a500
@a500 4 жыл бұрын
This is the type of video that I enjoy most from you. I love the retro and Pentuim 3 was a my second favorite period (Dx4100 486/early pentium being my all time fav). Please keep up the good work sir. Love your videos.
@CoolDudeClem
@CoolDudeClem 4 жыл бұрын
The kind of computer I would have KILLED for back in my Windows 98 days!
@nrg753
@nrg753 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. It's a shame that the prices have been jumping up. I've noticed on eBay that there are some sellers putting things up for exorbitant prices seemingly just to inflate the market, I doubt they care when the products aren't sold. I get the most enjoyment out of retro computing by spending very little and seeing what was fun in its day.
@SolidSonicTH
@SolidSonicTH 2 ай бұрын
This is probably my favorite 9x platform. Not so fast that it feels out of its time but faster than what 98 was originally specced for.
@GameplayandTalk
@GameplayandTalk 4 жыл бұрын
"IDON'TCAREWARE". I like the way you think, Phil!
@joshmalloyracing6669
@joshmalloyracing6669 4 жыл бұрын
Makes my PII 266Mhz look crap haha. Keep the retro videos coming!!
@RickyT232
@RickyT232 4 жыл бұрын
I have a PCI 9250 and it's very stable and reliable and compatible. A GPU for the ages!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I like everything about these cards :)
@TheVanillatech
@TheVanillatech 2 жыл бұрын
I never owned a slot 1Ghz, but had plenty of FPGA 1Ghz machines back in the day. But I did have a bunch of dual CPU P3 550 slot machines by Dell. Huge cases, amazingly well built, toolless design internals and onboard SCSI. Those were awesome machines. Came with Viper V770's (TNT2 Ultras) and a second SCSI adapter card and each machine I had came with two Quantum SCSI HD's. I kept a few of them for a couple of years and remember having the chance to upgrade them to 700Mhz dual SLOT CPU's, but by that time flipchips were far easier to get and I ended up selling the Dell's (except one).
@TheGuruTech
@TheGuruTech 3 жыл бұрын
Phil, regarding the high power usage during idle - what you said about the CPU not throttling down is true, however there’s another factor causing this. Win9x doesn’t issue the CPU a HLT instruction when idle like WinNT-based OS do. There are programs to enable this however. This is a good reference that compares them: www.benchtest.com/cooler.html
@baunax
@baunax 4 жыл бұрын
I bought that in the 733 mhz version in 2000, and if I remember correctly with 256 MB RAM and a nvidia geforce 2 gts with 32 MB memory. A beast of a computer 😎
@si4632
@si4632 3 жыл бұрын
then the original xbox came out and ate it for breakfast
@jeckjeck6943
@jeckjeck6943 2 жыл бұрын
@@si4632 The original xbox is pentium 3 733 with 64mo of ram and a graphic card between geforce3 and 4 in term of power. Late 2001/ beginning 2002 game console. At this time pc processors ran at 1.5ghz.
@si4632
@si4632 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeckjeck6943 and were still trashed by the Xbox lol
@jeckjeck6943
@jeckjeck6943 2 жыл бұрын
@@si4632 That's not true. Xbox was the best console of it's time but can't compete with pcs of 2002.
@100Underscores
@100Underscores 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome channel
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the visit
@Ede-sr2uu
@Ede-sr2uu 4 жыл бұрын
Nice build Phil. I use a Radeon 9250 in my HP5720 thin client. The Pentium III 1 ghz is paired with a Voodoo 5 5500.
@eulondon
@eulondon 4 жыл бұрын
Hello from Brazil. Thanks to your videos I realized a dream of seeing unreal on a 3dfx. I got a P4 m266 asrock motherboard. After months looking for I got a many times overpriced 3dfx 5500. All on my local marktplace ( ebay is not a thing in Brazil). Some ram, even got a soundblaster live but i think its a fake/faulty one because ! . Now on the look for a branded proper power supply. However back in the day I never understood all this MIDI thing, even worse knowledge now. I wish one day you could do a vídeo "MIDI for Dummies" to make Doom sound like some of your other videos with all its suberb sounds.
@TheRetarp
@TheRetarp 4 жыл бұрын
I really wanted one of those turtle beach cards back then but had to re-use my SBLive for years. After seeing this I wish I had saved up and bought one! Hmm... may have to watch ebay.
@sldkjh
@sldkjh 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, nice video. The maximum drive size for Windows 98 SE is 127GB or something like that. Maybe you left a lot of bytes on the table when you set it to 32 GB when you have 200 GB available. Keep it up!
@woel_
@woel_ 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Phil! Have you ever thought about making a Windows Vista "retro" PC? I always wanted to build something totally overkill from that era with several GPUs in crossfire/SLI.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
A Vista PC is planned, yes :D
@mdrumt
@mdrumt 4 жыл бұрын
Retro rig day! Woohoo!
@UpLateGeek
@UpLateGeek 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the day I upgraded from a celery 433 to a PIII 1000EB, with the 133MHz FSB, and it made a huge difference to the performance! It'd be interesting to see how a 133MHz FSB compares to the 100MHz one shown in the video. I suspect it won't make a huge difference, probably a few FPS here and there. Going from 100MHz to 133MHz RAM might make a difference in memory-intensive applications, but I don't think games benefited that much from higher memory speed.
@zxcvb_bvcxz
@zxcvb_bvcxz 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever done a video on your capture gear? Everything here is really sharp.
@stijnbagin
@stijnbagin 4 жыл бұрын
Yesterday, I found a box in my stash with an Aopen AX6BC and a 1Ghz Pentium III in it.... ... Today, i'm watching your video.... X)
@leonus3416
@leonus3416 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Phil, here is a video idea I think would be a hit: graphic card reviews for late 3D accelerated DOS titles. Matrox Mystique (MSI), Voodoo 1, Apocalypse 3DX, etc. Quite a few late DOS games were 3D acceleration capable (patchable).
@con2botonesnadamas433
@con2botonesnadamas433 4 жыл бұрын
I totally prefer your retro PC content, all the socket 7, Super 7, Slot 1, socket 370 up to socket 462 and 478 stuff, as well as the period correct graphic and sound cards. But as a suggestion for a future video, if you happen to have some AM1 platform parts around, it could be interesting to test them as an inexpensive Windows 98/XP era retro machine. Maybe also (why not) to test how far it can be pushed in regards to relatively more recent titles (Windows 7 era). Have a wonderful weekend! Greetings from Uruguay.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
AM1 or FM1, I believe I did a video on one of these platforms! It was ok for Windows XP, but I do want to look at some newer FM2 APUs and if they are good enough for a GPU-less XP Gaming PC.
@con2botonesnadamas433
@con2botonesnadamas433 4 жыл бұрын
If I recall properly you did a video about the FM1 platform, not the AM1 (which is a more energy efficient oriented one). I do own an HTPC FM2 based system and its IGP is fairly decent. But never tried it as an IGP only retro system, that could also be an interesting video to watch
@KrissBartlett
@KrissBartlett 4 жыл бұрын
still flicking the hands hey Phil very good this one as i do have a p3 version of the A slot cpu works good like the older stuff my self
@Reziac
@Reziac 4 жыл бұрын
Slot 1 adapter cards can be really cranky. Some work with anything, some only like certain CPUs or only support 66MHz bus. But when they work, it's a great option. -- In my Closet I have a dual slot 1 board that's quite fast for the day and supports up to 1GHz... thinking about finding it max speed CPUs and resurrecting it, good options here, I like that sound card being able to handle DOS games. (I have a bunch of these boards but that one is notably faster.) Be aware that FAT32 is unstable for partitions over 32GB; this is a known data wrapping bug that used to be documented on Microsoft's Knowledge Base. It looks like a failed HD if you're not aware what's going on, as once you get over 32GB of data on the drive, files start randomly disappearing.
@francoisfritz198
@francoisfritz198 4 жыл бұрын
are you kidding?! i ve been following exactly the same way during install, since post to clic to "auto arrange" , approved ;)
@jonesaleroy
@jonesaleroy 4 жыл бұрын
Had the first P3 1000 but a dual setup on an Asus motherboard and it was awesome.
@richardhobson3623
@richardhobson3623 4 жыл бұрын
Love the retro content. Really interesting to see how the hard drive was used. Any reason to not use an ssd with that ide adapter? Keep up the good work.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 4 жыл бұрын
Just to show other methods throughout my videos! A small SSD works really well also :)
@richardhobson3623
@richardhobson3623 4 жыл бұрын
PhilsComputerLab Brilliant. Makes me want to try this even more!
@soniclab-cnc
@soniclab-cnc 4 жыл бұрын
I had that board... lol was actually decent. I had the P3 933 on it and it was great !
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