Elderly couple loses nearly $700K online scam

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ABC 10 News

ABC 10 News

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A local family said scammers were able to steal their life savings through a fake Amazon purchase and bank wire transfers.

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@wildnfree101
@wildnfree101 4 ай бұрын
Why would you wire hundreds of thousand of dollars to a bank in Hong Kong & China, when Amazon is an American company with its head office in Seattle, Washington.
@user-yg4xf4rs3e
@user-yg4xf4rs3e 4 ай бұрын
That's it I agree
@LisaG442
@LisaG442 4 ай бұрын
Because old ppl come from a time where way more folks were honest. They trust. The high lvls of deceit coupled with a technology they barely grasp mentally makes them prime targets. Remember, in old days many times a deal was sealed with a handshake and nothing else. 😢
@jimroscovius
@jimroscovius 4 ай бұрын
​@@LisaG442 My 92-year-old Mom never falls for these. She just deletes them.
@LisaG442
@LisaG442 4 ай бұрын
@@jimroscovius that’s awesome she’s so savvy! I was of course speaking generally, not specifically in my prior comment.
@jimroscovius
@jimroscovius 4 ай бұрын
@LisaG442 Oh, I get it. My Mom things it's so bad when she hangs up on someone. I tell her that's what she should do. She did get better with not answering the phone, though 🙂
@naylor2000
@naylor2000 4 ай бұрын
I don’t see how this the banks fault.
@brianal7143
@brianal7143 4 ай бұрын
It's not.
@gregmohr9367
@gregmohr9367 4 ай бұрын
just some lawyers making noise.
@user-wy2ud4xx5q
@user-wy2ud4xx5q 3 ай бұрын
They are trying to make it look like an elderly abuse, but they went to different branches to wire money and that too outside the country and that too thousands of dollars for a seemingly $2000 fake transaction. At some point they should have stopped to think that wiring money out of the country for fixing fake Amazon transaction is not making sense.
@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@TOMVUTHEPIMP 3 ай бұрын
Just the attorney making up BS to try to get the money back.
@drinny26
@drinny26 2 ай бұрын
The banks should provide more oversight. It’s not asking too much. An old person walks into a bank and wants to transfer a lot of money to foreign countries known for scams then the teller should ask more questions.
@cas5324
@cas5324 4 ай бұрын
They always blame the bank for their own stupidity.
@rg2613
@rg2613 4 ай бұрын
Yup. People always blame others for their own stupidity
@eelnoops5200
@eelnoops5200 4 ай бұрын
It's NEVER the victim's fault. It's the thief's fault. It's the rapist's fault. It's the scammer's fault.
@irrelevant2235
@irrelevant2235 4 ай бұрын
Why should any bank be held responsible for you being an idiot?
@13Percent52PercentYikes
@13Percent52PercentYikes 4 ай бұрын
​@@eelnoops5200 A scammer can try all day long and get nobody. This is absolutely the old mans fault
@N8turenut
@N8turenut 4 ай бұрын
@@eelnoops5200exactly.
@sheanick6437
@sheanick6437 4 ай бұрын
It’s not the bank’s fault if you actually sent the money yourself!
@almaguerra9371
@almaguerra9371 4 ай бұрын
Yes it is their fault, they have to monitor your transactions... Bank of America is very good for keeping up with my transactions. I really appreciate them... Chase sadly there just to collect your money...
@YEET-yh6qc
@YEET-yh6qc 4 ай бұрын
That's just business, boomer. Pull the boot straps.
@CH-gc8hf
@CH-gc8hf 4 ай бұрын
It's not soley the bank's fault but, in this day and age of technology banks have to step up and protect their customers so much better than this.
@jdl9623
@jdl9623 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. But what makes this case particularly stands out in sheer ridiculousness is them sending out almost $700,000 dollars just to correct a $1,500 mistake...lol
@marcosleon215
@marcosleon215 4 ай бұрын
@@almaguerra9371na dudes just an idiot
@rachelwinter1404
@rachelwinter1404 4 ай бұрын
They gave away $700 thousand dollars. The bank is not responsible for their lost!
@kenbob1071
@kenbob1071 2 ай бұрын
*loss
@jaycahuenga6416
@jaycahuenga6416 Ай бұрын
Having that much money in the bank doesn't mean Jack if it's handed away
@jadedelarge8929
@jadedelarge8929 4 ай бұрын
I usually feel sorrier and angrier when scammers target older people, as sometimes, they are not as savvy with technology, but the actions of this man are right down irresponsible and stupid. No common sense whatsoever.
@HeyItsAvi90
@HeyItsAvi90 4 ай бұрын
Same generation who thinks the younger generation is weak bc they cant drive a manual. lmao
@FreeSpeechisMyRight10
@FreeSpeechisMyRight10 4 ай бұрын
Agree. I'm 67 and I would never fall for such an obvious scam.
@sl123sl
@sl123sl 4 ай бұрын
When u age....no telling what u will do
@V.E.R.O.
@V.E.R.O. 4 ай бұрын
Our brain degenerates as we age, some faster than others so the thought process and decision making ability will not be the same. I'm already seeing it in my mother, she has forgotten how to use a simple calculator, repeats the same stories often and forgets things all the time.
@michelem3360
@michelem3360 4 ай бұрын
I'm 70. My entire working life was done with computers and I "grew up" along with the technology. I don't understand the excuse of :"Oh, I'm old, I don't know anything about technology". I always wonder where these computer illiterate people have been. Unless you're 90+, there's no excuse.
@musicoldies83
@musicoldies83 3 ай бұрын
"The bank should have asked me more questions" No dude, you're the one who should have been asking the questions to uncover the big costly sham that you ultimately got duped into.
@ronniemead805
@ronniemead805 2 ай бұрын
EXACTLY. I got a similar email from Amazon saying my subscription had expired; but they are giving me three months free. When they asked me to pay .99 cents after saying it was free, I immediately called Amazon. Turn out it was a scam. How could anyone disburse huge sums of money without making a simple telephone call to the company involved. Stupid is as stupid does.
@migomigo2595
@migomigo2595 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Xx-po1fu
@Xx-po1fu 4 ай бұрын
If I don't recognize the name or the number I don't answer my phone.
@joseph10704
@joseph10704 4 ай бұрын
apple has a scam calling feature in there phones were u can block scam callers it goes right to voicemail every time been doing this for a while now.i use to get tons and tons of calls of these losers a day and now since apple made this new features and they update the security I dont even see scam calls now.long term if apple and many other companies start to do these features it will be extremely harder for these scammers to happen .
@noobsaibot8844
@noobsaibot8844 4 ай бұрын
Yup. Don't even have voicemail. Just Google the number after they call. If I'm expecting a call, I will turn my voicemail back on.
@user-wy2ud4xx5q
@user-wy2ud4xx5q 3 ай бұрын
The name and number that shows up can be very easily manipulated. They can make any name and number appear on your caller ID hiding their actual number.
@yadiragomez6498
@yadiragomez6498 3 ай бұрын
If I don't know the phone number or the name, I don't answer. If it is important, they will leave a message and then, I will decide whether or not to answer. Just use common sense.
@psansom
@psansom 3 ай бұрын
The displayed number means nothing these days.
@loretojacobs6613
@loretojacobs6613 4 ай бұрын
He is blaming Chase for his own actions!! What else would be next, he is not a child, he is a grown man, own up to his mistake.
@bambinaforever1402
@bambinaforever1402 4 ай бұрын
Especially he tried to scam Chase - he was wiring money from 4 different offices 4 times. Obviously not to raise suspicion
@Katie-sf7jt
@Katie-sf7jt 3 ай бұрын
Sweet innocent minded people. 100% on them though for jumping every red flag. No one else’s fault.
@ohioken1
@ohioken1 4 ай бұрын
Why should the bank be responsible for his stupidity?
@rg2613
@rg2613 4 ай бұрын
My father got scammed 5k when he wired a scammer that money as a processing fee to collect a million dollar sweepstakes win. He got what he deserved for being a greedy bastard. Why would I blame the bank for this? I blame him for being greedy
@Flashyfinancier
@Flashyfinancier 4 ай бұрын
An old fool and his money are soon parted.
@Flashyfinancier
@Flashyfinancier 4 ай бұрын
I could understand how he fell for that. I mean...who could have foreseen that this was a scam?
@wisdomlounge4452
@wisdomlounge4452 4 ай бұрын
​​​@@Flashyfinancier Yeah, it's like no one's heard of that one before, c'mon! There's certain scams that have been around before any one of us was born and yet people keep falling for what you would presume to be a completely well known scam.
@Flashyfinancier
@Flashyfinancier 4 ай бұрын
@@wisdomlounge4452 the funniest thing must have been the ecstatic look on his dad's face when he wire transferred 5 grand to some random dude in China while he was patiently waiting for his million dollar payout. But after 3 or 4 days he must have thought...wait a second, what if they dont send me anything?
@thequake180
@thequake180 4 ай бұрын
5k to get 1 million? You have to be a complete moron to fall for that one.
@romy8661
@romy8661 4 ай бұрын
I get so fed up of people not taking accountability for their own mistakes.
@moneyman24258
@moneyman24258 4 ай бұрын
Yea
@Western_ENT
@Western_ENT 4 ай бұрын
This is NOT their mistake made by their own! This is a SCAM! SCAMMERs exploit complicated/confusing systems to SCAM uninformed/old people. Blame such systems being shaddy/confusing unnecessarily for crooked to take advantage of, don't blame their victims!
@musicoldies83
@musicoldies83 3 ай бұрын
@@Western_ENT Yes, it is their mistake. Learn how to take accountability for your own actions and if you don't want to get caught with your financial pants down, then educate yourself to not fall for evil people's bullshit. Nobody stuck a gun to their head to transfer money over - they did it on their own accord. CASE CLOSED!!!!
@Western_ENT
@Western_ENT 3 ай бұрын
@@musicoldies83 you're exactly what's wrong with lawmakers these days, narcissism/psychpathy at its best: "nobody puts a gun in your head blah blah blah.." = you're defending SCAMMERs, CHEATERs, LIARs, and blaming their VICTIMs.
@eddie45658
@eddie45658 3 ай бұрын
​@Western_ENT it's 100% their mistake
@jimroscovius
@jimroscovius 4 ай бұрын
I can't believe people still fall for this!! You NEVER send money to get money. Gee whiz!!
@rg2613
@rg2613 4 ай бұрын
Stupid is stupid does. And he’s sueing the bank for his own stupidity. Now that’s America for you
@wisdomlounge4452
@wisdomlounge4452 4 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter what new scams appear, they almost always have the same red flags, such as that one about sending money to get money. The other mistake made, also relevant when it comes to other scams, is not contacting Amazon directly. By directly, NOT the number provided by the scammer but by going to Amazon's site and looking for their contact them section. The daughter says it was a sophisticated scam but none of the things in the scam were unique tactics. The "let us have remote access to your computer" tactic was one he should have known about as being dangerous. In his line of work that's what he commonly does and his company would have surely briefed him about not giving authorized people remote access to their computer (which, by extension means he should have known that it would be a terrible idea to give someone he doesn't know remote access to his private computer.)
@kendallhughes7507
@kendallhughes7507 4 ай бұрын
real talk~ *most Americans are not that smart- and the 'each & everything' scammers from the land of the Holy Cow know this*
@davidallen346
@davidallen346 Жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to the elderly couple I have received similar scam in the email, but never replied to it. I wish i had 700 grands to be scammed to be able save that much amt of money is not a easy task. But I would just keep the money. Their daughter was a Big No help at all. She could've inherited that money. She actually encouraged them to go along with the scammer. A huge tragedy 😫
@billcollins6894
@billcollins6894 4 ай бұрын
If you are under 40 you have plenty of time to have $700K or more when you retire.
@user-gc4zy2sr2g
@user-gc4zy2sr2g 4 ай бұрын
Thankfully my mom is far too cheap to send money to strangers. That’s how you accumulate wealth. 😂
@bmoshareholderappleshareho855
@bmoshareholderappleshareho855 Ай бұрын
@@user-gc4zy2sr2g Sometimes being cheap is actually being smart.
@10superpwn
@10superpwn Ай бұрын
Seriously. I can’t wait for society to finally dump the idea that wealthy people are smarter than everybody else. Hopefully this video helps people see the truth. People this stupid don’t deserve to relax with $700k in their account while actual smart people are out here struggling to pay rent. It’s infuriating, meritocracy is such a scam
@elainealibrandi6364
@elainealibrandi6364 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry.... You've been living on Earth for all these decades and you can't believe someone would lie with that level of bad faith? In what bubble have you spent your life?
@maryvernon6411
@maryvernon6411 Жыл бұрын
Never trust anyone with your money. Sad but these are the times we live in.
@ButcherBird-FW190D
@ButcherBird-FW190D 11 ай бұрын
@@maryvernon6411 It has always been that way. It's not just the "times we live in".
@moneyman24258
@moneyman24258 4 ай бұрын
A small town or suburb
@elainealibrandi6364
@elainealibrandi6364 4 ай бұрын
@@moneyman24258Still no excuse. It happens everywhere.
@SusieAspen
@SusieAspen 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like they both might have dementia???
@wesleycorlynda8371
@wesleycorlynda8371 4 ай бұрын
Stop answering the phone
@MuzicTunes-lk6np
@MuzicTunes-lk6np 4 ай бұрын
Or reply to text or emails. If you didn't request it, reject it.
@bmoshareholderappleshareho855
@bmoshareholderappleshareho855 Ай бұрын
I do not answer the phone, text or email if I do not recognize the sender.
@tara607
@tara607 5 ай бұрын
Im 65 and never trusted anyone I myself did not contact, I NEVER respond or even open strange emails, and never pick up phone if number is not known, I get at least 6 calls a with hang ups ( when im home I hear) if its Soooo important leave a message. Its a Shitty world, Trust nobody.
@user-eu3qy8uf7f
@user-eu3qy8uf7f 4 ай бұрын
Especially about money. People are increasingly greedy for money and they don't care who they hurt to get it.
@bambinaforever1402
@bambinaforever1402 4 ай бұрын
But not answering your phone? Dude, paranoia is your diagnosis.
@michah321
@michah321 4 ай бұрын
​@@bambinaforever1402I'm a therapist and I NEVER answer if I don't recognize the number. They can leave a message if it's real. No way am I answering random calls. What is this?? 1974?? 🙄🙄
@jeahavvalentin980
@jeahavvalentin980 4 ай бұрын
​@@bambinaforever1402Stop shaming people to do something they don't want to do
@theshepherdsinn
@theshepherdsinn 3 ай бұрын
You are right. You can't even trust bank personnel anymore. Three times we have had inside jobs done by bank personnel! Accounts that were never used that only the bank had access to. Truly can't trust anyone you don't know and less than half of the ones you do know!
@MK-vj9jy
@MK-vj9jy 4 ай бұрын
I just heard about a 76 year old man who sold his house for $800,000 only to lose the money within a week. He was told he won $17m in sweepstakes, but before receiving the money, he had to pay taxes on it. And so... he conveniently transferred his life savings to a stranger without talking to anyone. I feel sorry for him but that was greed written all over it. Even at 76, use your brain! 😡😡😡
@LexSteele-bo5qi
@LexSteele-bo5qi 4 ай бұрын
Why feel bad? It's a good learning experience for him.
@ryder4508
@ryder4508 3 ай бұрын
​@@LexSteele-bo5qi😂
@sageex3931
@sageex3931 Ай бұрын
​@@LexSteele-bo5qiLol😂
@english7451
@english7451 Ай бұрын
How do they know people have money sitting around in savings.
@selketskiss56
@selketskiss56 25 күн бұрын
@@english7451 It is the types of people banks etc hire and outsource to. Most are foreigners and they have access to your accounts, but they don't do it they sell your info directly to the scammers especially the elderly accounts.
@skyblaze6705
@skyblaze6705 3 ай бұрын
Where is the common sense when you believe Amazon or any other company would tell you what to say when you transfer money in a bank?
@ryder4508
@ryder4508 3 ай бұрын
It's funny their daughter calls the scammer a "hacker", but it sounds like her parents "hacked" themselves.
@nextari
@nextari 4 ай бұрын
If Chase is to be held responsible, what stops anyone from wiring their friend in Hong Kong and then blaming it on the bank for a full refund?
@Justin-uc8sc
@Justin-uc8sc 4 ай бұрын
Prison.
@geo9788
@geo9788 4 ай бұрын
@@Justin-uc8sc no the old ppl should know how to manage there own money, or should not have access to it.
@JohnnytNatural
@JohnnytNatural 4 ай бұрын
No you're not understanding the lawsuit, nothing is stopping you from wiring, it's the fact that Chase didn't bring up the possibility of scam, all they had to do was go over a simple checklist
@nextari
@nextari 4 ай бұрын
@@JohnnytNaturalI agree with that. With the phone and email spoofing it’s getting pretty crazy.
@dquan731
@dquan731 4 ай бұрын
No way should a bank be responsible. You’d start complaining banks are getting into your business or delaying your transaction once they put on procedures to slow things down. Anytime you have a transaction higher than a threshold, you should stop and think before completing it. Scammers are every where, it’s ridiculous to hold someone else responsible for your gullibility.
@XactlyCeSe1
@XactlyCeSe1 4 ай бұрын
Blaming the bank? What a child 🙄 It’s all your fault
@bertog1217
@bertog1217 6 ай бұрын
It's not the banks fault it's your fault
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 3 ай бұрын
Hemingway said, " If you are any damn good at all, it's Always your fault!"
@41335411
@41335411 4 ай бұрын
He tried to get a refund on an item he didnt order?
@Flashyfinancier
@Flashyfinancier 3 ай бұрын
A fool and his money are soon parted.
@jcharich2010
@jcharich2010 2 ай бұрын
RIght! Dude, all you had to do is back check your records. You would have easily figured out this is BS
@kenbob1071
@kenbob1071 2 ай бұрын
@@Flashyfinancier It's "without" you donkey... lol
@Flashyfinancier
@Flashyfinancier 2 ай бұрын
@@jcharich2010 without idiots, scamming would not exist as a profession
@aarondemming
@aarondemming 3 ай бұрын
Chase has no responsibility for this scam. The man willingly sent his money. Now trying to blame the bank that he used to transfer the money.
@muffycrosswire
@muffycrosswire 4 ай бұрын
My elderly mom got one of those fake Amazon emails. She called the number on it but fortunately no one picked up! I still yelled at her later.
@bambinaforever1402
@bambinaforever1402 4 ай бұрын
Tell your mom if she gets email her money were sent somewhere she did not send them she does not call the number, she GOES TO HER BANK with that email
@user-tl7mj2bm4m
@user-tl7mj2bm4m 4 ай бұрын
Take away her PC.....TODAY.
@michah321
@michah321 4 ай бұрын
​​@@user-tl7mj2bm4myou can't take things away from adult people. What are you even talking about? That's called THEFT
@Celisar1
@Celisar1 4 ай бұрын
Do no yell at your mother! Always treat her with love and respect. You can still make your point very clear.
@Celisar1
@Celisar1 4 ай бұрын
@@user-tl7mj2bm4m Are you crazy?? Your poor, poor parents. I can only hope you will learn not to treat elderly people like children!
@freshfalcon3996
@freshfalcon3996 3 ай бұрын
It's not the responsibility of banks to protect people from their own stupidity.
@supers1057
@supers1057 3 ай бұрын
Being elderly does not mean you are not responsible for your actions! Who in the world goes to his bank and wire transfer his life savings to Amazon in China!
@Flashyfinancier
@Flashyfinancier 18 күн бұрын
Old people do.
@mike48084
@mike48084 4 ай бұрын
He literally went to the bank and asked them to wire transfer the money in person. What was Chase supposed to do?
@kenbob1071
@kenbob1071 2 ай бұрын
If I were a bank employee and an elderly person came to me and asked to wire transfer a large sum of money overseas, I'd at least warn them that it could be a scam and advise against it. If they still insisted on with the transfer, I'd have them sign a paper saying that they were warned of the dangers and decided to ignore the warning. If it were clearly a known scam, I'd refuse the transfer.
@jamesof7seven
@jamesof7seven Ай бұрын
@@kenbob1071 that's pretty straight forward - there's a lot of evil a-holes in this comment section... they're just EVAR so hard nosed, hey I'm impressed!
@JMelissaMc
@JMelissaMc 4 ай бұрын
He sent money for 8 days and I find it strange that he never said anything to the daughter about it. And, people always say that the bank or whomever should have stopped them. But, if they had, they would have told them to mind their own business and been furious about it!
@yourbestpallshawn4139
@yourbestpallshawn4139 Ай бұрын
I bet if his son tried to talk em out of it he woulda yelled and say he knows what he’s doin.
@nz6241
@nz6241 4 ай бұрын
Yea, I mean how ignorant do you have to be to send that much cash without any idea where the money is going to?
@Feddy99
@Feddy99 3 ай бұрын
That’s like going to a bank to withdrawal money and saying “well the bank should’ve asked where I was spending it” like what? lol
@Michelle-qi5zf
@Michelle-qi5zf 3 ай бұрын
They are TOTALLY to blame for THEIR naïveté!
@alisons9740
@alisons9740 4 ай бұрын
I’m still trying to figure out the logic of $690K in shipping costs, paid to a third party, days after an order was placed… Bizarre and unfortunate, but why pretend the bank is in any form responsible for your purchases and instructions. Scammers found a mark.
@agyvonne
@agyvonne 3 ай бұрын
They’re blaming their bank ?????????
@CeeTeeUSA
@CeeTeeUSA 4 ай бұрын
Let's be fair, these people aren't smart enough to have a computer. It wasn't Chase Bank's fault..
@timothythompson4036
@timothythompson4036 4 ай бұрын
He has to be careful. I receive those fake Amazon emails all the time. Everyone needs to be careful.
@jaycahuenga6416
@jaycahuenga6416 3 ай бұрын
I thought I was the only one that has got a lot of those in the past...but I never responded cause I knew I ordered NOTHING on Amazon. But I did check my account to see if there was any funny business..and saw no such thing
@nextari
@nextari 4 ай бұрын
It's terrible but this man has a nanny state mentality. That is why he felt confident to do something so outrageously stupid. Now it's his bank's fault? People wire millions of dollars every day. True the bank needs to have a conversation for anyone wiring over $25k perhaps, but this was his own doing.
@graysonwalker
@graysonwalker 4 ай бұрын
The guy is ridiculous
@sipvypkbj103
@sipvypkbj103 4 ай бұрын
In believable. Don't answer questions so If you didn't Make The call Plus I hate Banking on the Phone I Wld. Not give Ppl access to my computer Files or sine on And I can And Older Crazy 😧 sad😢
@JohnnytNatural
@JohnnytNatural 4 ай бұрын
This is the generation that screwed up our nation 💯 unbridled optimism and no sense of reality
@davidhoward4715
@davidhoward4715 4 ай бұрын
Nanny state? Are you even aware that the bank is a private corporation?
@txt4r
@txt4r 4 ай бұрын
correct My friend was getting text from a very beautiful girl - he was super excited to have her as her girlfriend for a long time I did not want to 'break his bubble' and tell him she does not exist they are probably Nigerian scammers then one day he tells me that his remote girlfriend wants him to invest money in a Bitcoin project Then I had to tell him that it is scam do not talk to 'her' My friend though I am jealous and no longer talk to me as often as before Moral of the story -- there are people out there who would hate YOU for pointing out any scam - you can not protect them
@graysonwalker
@graysonwalker 4 ай бұрын
The daughter needs to get a conservatorship
@user-gc4zy2sr2g
@user-gc4zy2sr2g 4 ай бұрын
It appears so. They couldn’t even tell the story themselves. My parents are elderly and I have talked to them about these scams. It’s definitely our duty as family to make them aware.
@ryder4508
@ryder4508 3 ай бұрын
There goes the daughter's inheritance. 😂
@jcharich2010
@jcharich2010 2 ай бұрын
No she should not get a conservatorship. She's just as stupid as the parents.
@jcharich2010
@jcharich2010 2 ай бұрын
@@ryder4508 Yep. She was just as stupid as the parents.
@jeanetteh.9240
@jeanetteh.9240 4 ай бұрын
Respectfully, this couple needs to be evaluated for early signs of dementia. I wonder if this gentleman would have been so trusting had this happened 10 years ago. I'm sorry for their loss.
@darincolorado2994
@darincolorado2994 4 ай бұрын
I agree with Chase on this one. These people are no longer able to make financial decisions on their own (in this world) unfortunately.
@robertthompson5908
@robertthompson5908 4 ай бұрын
How is that scam “sophisticated”? Scammers send a fake email claiming you made purchases from Amazon. Instead of logging on to your Amazon account to see if there’s anything there you immediately trust the scammers, even though their behavior is full of red flags e.g. calling you multiple times a day, and then you wire hundreds of thousands of dollars to Asia because someone who’s identity you never verified, told you to? That’s not sophistication on the part of the scammers, that’s complete naïveté and dare I say ignorance and lack of common sense on the part of the victims.
@michaelferguson7494
@michaelferguson7494 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Flashyfinancier
@Flashyfinancier 3 ай бұрын
A fool and his money are soon parted.
@Childfree334
@Childfree334 3 ай бұрын
You are absolutely correct. Sometimes people are not victims, they are volunteers.
@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@TOMVUTHEPIMP 3 ай бұрын
They could have just took 5 minutes to look at their bank account to see the purchase was never made.
@Flashyfinancier
@Flashyfinancier 3 ай бұрын
@@TOMVUTHEPIMP these are old people...
@ThatBearHasMoxie
@ThatBearHasMoxie 4 ай бұрын
$690,000 WHAT?!!!! *faints*
@brianal7143
@brianal7143 4 ай бұрын
Right! How can I get ahold of these people? 😂
@sublimesense7761
@sublimesense7761 4 ай бұрын
These people are fools, chase did nothing wrong
@Herman992113
@Herman992113 4 ай бұрын
Let me guess, the scammer had an Indian accent and his name was John Smith
@billcollins6894
@billcollins6894 4 ай бұрын
I just did a $200K transfer today on the phone with my bank. While I got a little frustrated that they asked me about 10 questions to confirm who I am, I understand they need to do it. They do not however ask where the money is going. They ask for a reason to put on the transfer. I think banks should as a policy remind people that there are scams when large transfers take place, but they are not responsible for people being stupid.
@theartistcherrypi6454
@theartistcherrypi6454 4 ай бұрын
There need to be safeguards in place for elderly because it seems like some of this might be signs of early stage dementia or cognitive decline? Maybe adding a password or emergency contact/alerts to verify the transfer over certain amounts? I don’t know what they can do to save people from themselves but the scammers are stealing billions out from under these people.
@alrighty6898
@alrighty6898 4 ай бұрын
That’s probably why the scammers had him go to multiple banks to do smaller transfer to lower suspicion. This man should’ve doubted the scammer when they had to coach him how to request the transfer
@JohnnytNatural
@JohnnytNatural 4 ай бұрын
Frustrated? You're lucky you didn't lose 200k with the amount of sophisticated scams, with AI now able to mimic voices, your mother's voice could be a scammer asking you to wire money
@billcollins6894
@billcollins6894 4 ай бұрын
@@JohnnytNatural If an AI mimicked my mom's voice I would say - "Mom, do I wire this to the Bank of Heaven. And what exactly do the dead do with money?" I work in AI. Nobody gets my money without lots of proof. I have wired my two sons about $275K in the last 6 months for some shared investments. AI is good, but it does not know their life story. Neither son does social media for AI to mine and I have lots of secret questions only we know the answer to.
@Deathtofrogleghorn
@Deathtofrogleghorn 3 ай бұрын
The banks do have these signs and so does Western Union and MoneyGram, but idiots like him don’t read that shit. Banks and other entities also mail you and email you warning letters of common scams, but people don’t pay attention to that crap sadly. Then you have people like him that lack critical thinking skills severely and can’t see the scam for the pile of horseshit it is until their money is gone. Then folks like him blame their idiocy on everyone else but themselves.
@larrycreed5049
@larrycreed5049 4 ай бұрын
You can't fix stupid !
@straykittycat1683
@straykittycat1683 4 ай бұрын
No one is going to cover stupidity
@francine7766
@francine7766 4 ай бұрын
Usually the originator of the scam has a thick foreign accent. That should have been the first clue.
@davidhoward4715
@davidhoward4715 4 ай бұрын
It depends on what country you're in.
@user-gc4zy2sr2g
@user-gc4zy2sr2g 4 ай бұрын
@@davidhoward4715Really? Are people in Nigeria getting scammed by Americans?
@RTM661
@RTM661 4 ай бұрын
It’s their brains fault not the banks😂😂
@ruthiemay423
@ruthiemay423 4 ай бұрын
I agree with the bank. They should not be held accountable for someone else's stupidity.
@tomm1583
@tomm1583 23 күн бұрын
The first thing he should have said was 'but I didn't purchase anything'. What were they trying to fix?
@shellyharry8189
@shellyharry8189 4 ай бұрын
I'm amazed people actually fall for these scams
@bmoshareholderappleshareho855
@bmoshareholderappleshareho855 Ай бұрын
It's called fraud. Fraud is the intent to deceive.
@Peekaboo-Kitty
@Peekaboo-Kitty Ай бұрын
Their Seniors and they don't know that people lie in bad faith? Seriously? 🙄
@Flashyfinancier
@Flashyfinancier 4 ай бұрын
A fool and his money are soon parted.
@laudmit
@laudmit 3 ай бұрын
Their own ignorance and stupidity. Wire Transfer should have tipped them off something was suspect. They should have contacted Amazon directly from the Amazon site. NOT from some email. Some lessons are learned the HARD way.
@jdl9623
@jdl9623 4 ай бұрын
Everyone listen! Before you wire or send over money from anyone claiming a "mistaken" charge, just think about what you're doing and if it even makes any sense. This couple had a charge of about $1,500 to begin with and ending up losing about $700,000. Does that even make any sense? I would rather just lose out on that $1,500 than take the risk of even a 0.1% percent chance of this being a possibility of a fraud to wire out $700,000. Exactly what were they thinking when they are wiring out their whole entire life savings just to correct a $1,500 "mistake"? It's like driving 1000 miles to a gas station that is 10 cents cheaper per gallon. People really need to just take a deep breath to see if something even makes any sense before doing something so ridiculous as this couple did.
@commonsenseisntcommon1776
@commonsenseisntcommon1776 4 ай бұрын
How can people continue to be so stupid??
@bmoshareholderappleshareho855
@bmoshareholderappleshareho855 Ай бұрын
Gullibility and greed will never be in short supply.
@lisabolo26
@lisabolo26 4 ай бұрын
Why would you wire personal funds outside the country?
@Flashyfinancier
@Flashyfinancier 4 ай бұрын
Hes old...
@KarinBretz-lx6yv
@KarinBretz-lx6yv 4 ай бұрын
it's not Chase Bank's fault.. good try!
@onesilike9838
@onesilike9838 4 ай бұрын
Education is expensive, no matter how you get it.
@noelia4419
@noelia4419 4 ай бұрын
Survival of the fittest and then people want to cry about it 😂 it’s like going to Vegas to gamble to lose and then complaining that the casino should have stopped them.
@rg2613
@rg2613 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. If you are that stupid, you deserve to lose your money
@sarahuber8567
@sarahuber8567 3 ай бұрын
A lot of older people don’t understand the complexities of digital scams.
@hannicullen
@hannicullen 26 күн бұрын
There is no complexity here. It would have taken them two minutes to log into their Amazon account and see that they didn’t order anything. And we’ve all known for the past 20+ years that you can’t trust emails.
@sugarjoe50
@sugarjoe50 4 ай бұрын
Jeez, I'm more surprised how some folks have all that money to begin with!
@ryder4508
@ryder4508 3 ай бұрын
Boomers bought their house for 30K in 1974 and ran a "small, family owned business" where they paid their employees barely more than minimum wage and fired people for calling in sick.
@Childfree334
@Childfree334 3 ай бұрын
It's called WORKING and SAVING since we were teenagers. It's also called investing, living within our means, and smart money management. It's also not having more kids than we can afford. Some people just love to buy unnecessary stuff and accumulate debt. 😢
@Flashyfinancier
@Flashyfinancier 3 ай бұрын
@@Childfree334 you are completely missing the point here
@Childfree334
@Childfree334 3 ай бұрын
@@Flashyfinancier I'm not missing anything. You asked how people accumulate that much money and I told you how, at least from my perspective. I am not as old as these people, but I am very careful with what I have built.
@Flashyfinancier
@Flashyfinancier 3 ай бұрын
@@Childfree334 again, you are clearly missing the point
@wxman2003
@wxman2003 4 ай бұрын
Ah yes, blame someone else for being stupid.
@raiden031
@raiden031 2 ай бұрын
This is ridiculous that they are putting all this on the bank when they initiated the wire transfers in person.
@Moo2oob
@Moo2oob 3 ай бұрын
They get a notice about a supposed purchase of $1,500 from Amazon. The guy eventually goes into his bank and wire transfers a total of $700,000 and then blames the bank. Good grief.
@mathematician1234
@mathematician1234 4 ай бұрын
I get at least a half-dozen scam emails every day. Maybe once a month I get one like the one in this story, that says I ordered something expensive. I have seen some sophisticated scams, but this is a simple one. As an interviewer, I would have asked him why he sent money overseas in this case.
@vmobile890
@vmobile890 4 ай бұрын
As a old 💩 i ask too many questions and note on paper ask to call back what’s the return number where they calling from i’ll look it up on google satellite . They hang up on my 😳🤣
@jaycahuenga6416
@jaycahuenga6416 3 ай бұрын
After that they may wanna take a look at "banks never ask that".
@robertsmit9872
@robertsmit9872 3 ай бұрын
I'm surprised they made it this far in life!
@gregatkinson7276
@gregatkinson7276 27 күн бұрын
This man threw away the life savings but is so bent on blaming someone else because he knows he made a really bad and yes, dumb mistake, and cannot stand to even CONSIDER the fact that it is his own fault so look for a scapegoat to get the heat off of himself. Continue NOT to let him get away with it!
@JPurontong
@JPurontong 27 күн бұрын
It’s not like their money disappeared without their knowledge, they participated in the transaction, willingly or unwillingly, the bank’s POV is they participated with the scammer.
@KingNemba
@KingNemba 2 ай бұрын
Imagine going to the news thinking it will get your 700k back.
@darkeyez1630
@darkeyez1630 Ай бұрын
There are stories of people going to news outlets for help and being successful. The problem here is they are going after their bank when the bank literally nothing to do with their problems outside of being their financial institution.
@catherinesegovia3255
@catherinesegovia3255 4 ай бұрын
It’s sounds so stupid to wire the money to Hong Kong. The elderly couple are at fault.
@jaycahuenga6416
@jaycahuenga6416 3 ай бұрын
And getting an out of the blue email from Amazon for something that they never ordered???
@Khmarth
@Khmarth 11 ай бұрын
They just gave out all their information it’s their stupidity!
@jenlovesjesus
@jenlovesjesus 3 ай бұрын
This is so tragic. And yet, I can understand the bank's point of view. For the couple to say that it's the bank's fault is ridiculous. As someone who has worked in banking, we do make an effort to keep abreast of scamming. That said, we cannot legally prevent someone from accessing their money and completing a banking transaction that they have chosen to make.
@jadenrea
@jadenrea 19 күн бұрын
I can't believe they actually let them have access to their computer. Those people are the definition of NPCs
@mathematician1234
@mathematician1234 15 күн бұрын
I had to look up NPC. Now I understand.
@carolkrone3610
@carolkrone3610 3 ай бұрын
How dare they sue the bank? Unfortunately in this country you can sue anyone for anything.
@roachtoasties
@roachtoasties 4 ай бұрын
That's a ton of money. It's got to the point where I don't believe anyone contacting me. Phone calls, texts, emails, and so on. Everywhere you turn someone is trying to scam you.
@bmoshareholderappleshareho855
@bmoshareholderappleshareho855 Ай бұрын
I do not answer phone calls, texts or emails if I do not recognize the sender.
@redciroc1211
@redciroc1211 3 ай бұрын
Dude it’s on you it’s not the bank fault
@Gabrielle-Z
@Gabrielle-Z 18 күн бұрын
He went four times and not once did this seem a Red flag, goodness me.
@jhull5870
@jhull5870 Ай бұрын
The bank should not be held accountable in my opinion. Elder abuse? Are you kidding? The couple is a victim of naivety. The bank is not the culprit.
@Luniz-5-On-it
@Luniz-5-On-it Ай бұрын
exactly.. Not the banks fault at all. It's their for being so dumb
@jcharich2010
@jcharich2010 2 ай бұрын
I don't understand why these people didn't first go back and look to see when, where, and why they supposedly made this transaction in the first place. Why didn't they look at their previous bank statements and login to their actual Amazon account instead of the spoofing website? I also don't understand why their own daughter didn't take control of the situation and go back and check her parents records and verify the initial transaction If they had of done that one thing from the start they would have figured it this was not legit. The wife failed, the husband, and worst of all their younger daughter her parents. She should have off the jump known this was a scam.
@mprkg
@mprkg 5 ай бұрын
Sure- because Amazon is going to take over your computer.
@user-gc4zy2sr2g
@user-gc4zy2sr2g 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 RIGHT!
@biulaimh3097
@biulaimh3097 4 ай бұрын
If a bank deposits money in your account by mistake, you have to give it back.
@Michael-du1yg
@Michael-du1yg 22 күн бұрын
You may have felt violated by your bank, but it was your stupidity that you were gullible so you could sue yourself.
@bamangakawu3155
@bamangakawu3155 4 ай бұрын
You're doing an outstanding job, *VortexTrace* I'm thrilled that you're out there battling these scoundrels. It's absolutely crucial to protect the elderly and the general public from these deplorable scammers. You truly deserve all the praise and recognition for keeping us safe! Kudos to you, my brother. Your efforts are deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize. Keep up the amazing works.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😊😊
@Pharaohscrown
@Pharaohscrown 4 ай бұрын
How are the elderly couple trying to hold the bank/Chase accountable for their own stupidity? When the couple aren't even customers of chase bank. Why didn't the husband use his own bank to facilitate the wire transfers?
@andrewbeck4700
@andrewbeck4700 3 ай бұрын
The bank should have a scam department and take 5 minutes and explain that you may be getting scammed if your asked to wire money to people you don't know, and have a expert available to help old people. Because your brain just isn't the same when you get old. It's sad. That's why scammers target old people they are easier to trick and control.
@jaycahuenga6416
@jaycahuenga6416 3 ай бұрын
I can concur on that
@hannicullen
@hannicullen 26 күн бұрын
Wrong. I’m even more skeptical now that I’m old than I was when I was young.
@MarcoMercado-ps1yl
@MarcoMercado-ps1yl 4 ай бұрын
The bank should at least give them a toaster as a consolation prize 🏆
@susancross5192
@susancross5192 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the laugh!
@keith-kb1zl
@keith-kb1zl Ай бұрын
I think they quit giving out toasters and other small appliances for opening new accounts back in the seventies 🤣🤣🤣
@mil237pitas
@mil237pitas 5 ай бұрын
These people are stupid. What was Chase supposed to do?
@natalieturko4808
@natalieturko4808 3 ай бұрын
How could you ALLOW an unauthorized person to get control of your computer?? Gift cards, wire transfers to foreign countries, persistent calls, coaching........these are all red flags! They should have known better.
@donerickson7305
@donerickson7305 3 ай бұрын
Sorry, this is the height of stupidity. And to ask the bank to give them money because they lost theirs....outrageous
@jdl9623
@jdl9623 Жыл бұрын
0:47. Unfortunately, if they had just google that phone #, there is a long list of complaints saying it is fake fraudulent Amazon number all saying the same story of Amazon claiming them making a $1,500 purchase. Also, they could've just logged into their Amazon account and actually see that NO purchases were in fact made, making this fraud very apparent.
@english7451
@english7451 Ай бұрын
Exactly that’s what I did saw nothing was charged and I know it does not get charged until shipped a small but important detail.
@yt_energy
@yt_energy 4 ай бұрын
The story said this scam was sophisticated. It doesn’t seem that sophisticated. Even the daughter is blaming the bank, I bet these same people scream personal responsibility when it comes to politics
@xXx.......
@xXx....... 4 ай бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't blame Jeff Bezos
@davidhoward4715
@davidhoward4715 4 ай бұрын
@@xXx....... Why would they blame Jess Bezos?
@N8turenut
@N8turenut 4 ай бұрын
Calm down they lost 500k. I bet you don’t know that feeling.
@yt_energy
@yt_energy 4 ай бұрын
ive lost $200k in the stock market in one hour. I think I can relate. but pay attention to what I wrote - I wasn't commenting on the loss but rather that they didnt take personal responsibility. do you think i blamed the stock broker that day, no I took personal responsibility and went forward. @@N8turenut
@youtoobe169
@youtoobe169 4 ай бұрын
I am surprised a lawyer even took this frivolous case
@bmoshareholderappleshareho855
@bmoshareholderappleshareho855 Ай бұрын
Lawyers do what their clients tell them.
@sxylkn36
@sxylkn36 4 ай бұрын
WHAT? They should have known once the scammers wanted "remote access" to their computer!!!
@oliverstianhugaas7493
@oliverstianhugaas7493 Жыл бұрын
Honestly i don't understand how they fall for this.
@BRExteriorPro
@BRExteriorPro Жыл бұрын
They are older man. That's what these scammers like to deal with.
@lerm4676
@lerm4676 6 ай бұрын
Elderly be dumb dumbs
@Dude-etiquette
@Dude-etiquette 6 ай бұрын
To be fair, lots of people do and scammers are becoming more and more sophisticated
@robertyoung2819
@robertyoung2819 5 ай бұрын
Well... His very first words were that he wouldn't have thought that someone could be that dishonest... Really... At his age he believes that everyone is honest... DOH!!!
@andyleo8418
@andyleo8418 Жыл бұрын
Wow imagine all the other people who have been scammed but are too ashamed to make it public. Millions lost everyday!
@CagedJock
@CagedJock Ай бұрын
This is why you never put all your money in one place
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