120/240 and 120/208 Volt Transformer Secondaries

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Dave Gordon

Dave Gordon

3 жыл бұрын

Explanation of how we derive 120/240 V and 120/208 V from various Transformer Secondaries.
Additional video of interest: "120/240 V In-Phase or Out-of-Phase" • 120/240 V In-Phase or...
PLEASE NOTE: The arrows above the left schematic show that this is one winding that has simply been tapped in the center. The waveforms below it in the lower left can give the wrong impression that the "halves" of the winding are out-of-phase with each other. This is because I'm using the neutral as a reference and as I mention in the video, from the perspective of the neutral you look "up-arrow" to one end and "down-arrow" to the other end of the winding. BUT, from either end (i.e: black wire to red wire, or vice-versa) you will be looking "up-arrow" or "down-arrow" for the entire length of the winding (i.e: in-phase).
You can dig through the comments for further discussion on this. I have made a video addressing the phase relationship within 120/240 V systems, and I hope to create other videos focusing on current flow in each of the scenarios that will further our understanding of these transformer configurations.
Thank you,
Dave

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@ronmurphy2069
@ronmurphy2069 3 жыл бұрын
This man is a master at teaching... so clear. his body movements, his eye movements , hands all work in coordination with each other. his voice, easy on the ears... His brain the conductor of the whole operation. A pleasure to learn from...Thank you Dave.
@TheCompton1963
@TheCompton1963 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir!! 🧑🏻‍🏫
@Impedancenetwork
@Impedancenetwork 2 жыл бұрын
Rolling my eyes
@matthanaford4614
@matthanaford4614 2 жыл бұрын
Dave taught at my JATC for a couple years. He’s literally the only reason about 40 of us made it past our second year.
@danielalexander8402
@danielalexander8402 2 жыл бұрын
I get the same vibe. This man knows how to teach well.
@Professor-taboo
@Professor-taboo 2 жыл бұрын
Sheesh .....get a room 😆
@nassimzouaoui469
@nassimzouaoui469 5 ай бұрын
Truly a master in explaining, makes it easier to understand the concepts
@eduardoconde9247
@eduardoconde9247 Жыл бұрын
I am electromechanical engineer, your explanation is very very clear. THANKS a lot teacher.
@user-fn9cs4dv8r
@user-fn9cs4dv8r 9 ай бұрын
i feel lucky that people like dave are on youtube and shares their knowledge, great info!
@rty1955
@rty1955 Жыл бұрын
As a EE, I have to commend you on a well diagrammed and spoken lesson. Good job!
@lxbanos
@lxbanos 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, as a mechanical engineer I’ve always struggled with electrical concepts and this helped me understand much more about how the different windings affect voltage.
@abrahamjaime9417
@abrahamjaime9417 2 жыл бұрын
I was so lucky to be in his classes. Dave, you rock, man.
@richardschneider9837
@richardschneider9837 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work Dave. This is one of the most thorough and understandable descriptions on 120/240 and 120/208....excellent.
@clems6989
@clems6989 8 ай бұрын
Glad to hear someone use the correct definition of voltage. It is the "difference of potential" between two points.
@georgeswindoll9138
@georgeswindoll9138 Жыл бұрын
This man is a truly gifted teacher!!!!
@mrindependent1
@mrindependent1 Жыл бұрын
He just schooled me so good! Thanks sir We love ur videos His diagrams are perfectly simple
@jayvinirby5782
@jayvinirby5782 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos I have watched out of a lot out there that explains with this much clarity and expertise. Thanks for passing your knowledge how it should be with all.
@zacharybob4336
@zacharybob4336 Жыл бұрын
Dave your videos are so immensely understated. You're an absolute hidden gem and I can't thank you enough for making this material available. I'm an IBEW electrician apprentice in my 3rd year and I constantly supplement my school work with your videos.
@stevebusby6618
@stevebusby6618 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dave! I've just discovered your videos while looking for some information about transformers. You combine two of my favorite subjects: electricity and math. Fifty years ago I was an electrician in the Navy. At that time, we were trained in single phase and three-phase delta and wye transformers. I understood it completely at the time, but never had experience with them since then and lost my knowledge of them. Now I understand them a whole lot better.
@litocroy7147
@litocroy7147 3 жыл бұрын
You have simplified months of frustration in trying to understand these concepts. I cannot wait to check out the rest of your videos. I so appreciate the clarity you deliver. THANK YOU!
@tmengistu1778
@tmengistu1778 Жыл бұрын
Dave, I was looking for the definition of a great teacher, and now I got it on this KZfaq video. You are beyond excellent and keep up doing this amazing teaching style.
@douglieberman6406
@douglieberman6406 9 ай бұрын
I like the idea of the radius of a circle in terms of a generator, starting from west or zero axis , like a radar from west , north , east , south and to west. ! Radar or radius is from center point to the inner circumference of the circle ⭕️ . Diameter is from west to east or north to south, that is why a radius really is interesting like radar !
@paulunderwood6697
@paulunderwood6697 Жыл бұрын
The clearest instruction / explanation I have ever seen on this. Great video
@weavercattlecompany
@weavercattlecompany 10 ай бұрын
Other than you kept referring to the peak voltages as 120V which would be confusing to a beginner when actually Vp ≈ 170Vac or Vp-p ≈ 340Vac hence the need for capacitors with 370V or 440V ratings. Root Mean Square is just the DC equivalent hence there would be a straight line drawn through the sine wave to represent that average. Vrms = Vpeak/√(2). RMS is the only way to average a sine wave in case your wondering. It's also used to take an average in statistics to minimum the effects of outliers 😉 - 1st drawing - Single Phase - 2nd drawing - Three Phase (Wye) - 3rd drawing - Three Phase (Delta) I suggest adding "Ugly's Electrical References" book to your toolbox because it covers all this and much more in case you forget. Great video 😊
@oimpostor1585
@oimpostor1585 Жыл бұрын
Sir, you're a teaching machine! You managed to master all your techniques magnificently. Thank you for that
@chrish3588
@chrish3588 3 ай бұрын
this is literally the best explanation ive ever heard for this.
@mauriciogonzalez618
@mauriciogonzalez618 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I wish I had a teacher like you when I was in trade school, nice job explaining and simplify something so complicated, please continue uploading videos!!!
@khalidfouda3278
@khalidfouda3278 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing explanation, very good job 👏
@Rico702Vegas
@Rico702Vegas Жыл бұрын
I'm blown away by your efficiency sir! All the little comments added explaining things for our green compadres shows how masterfully you teach. Thank you sir.
@aaron-ld9zv
@aaron-ld9zv Жыл бұрын
Searched for this explanation for way too long. Very well done Dave.
@ryanmason9141
@ryanmason9141 2 жыл бұрын
I've been digging to find a good explanation and now I've found it. Thank you sir!
@edt2378
@edt2378 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Dave well done! Best teacher I seen yet! Thanks again.
@bobbyshaftoe
@bobbyshaftoe 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously, this guy has mastered the description of *why* 208v.
@leea1988
@leea1988 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video that explained some of the lingering questions I had regarding electrotechnology. Thankyou Dave!
@subramaniamarumugam2433
@subramaniamarumugam2433 2 жыл бұрын
Great teaching skills. You making it very easy to follow. Thank You 🙏🏼
@frustratedmechanic6263
@frustratedmechanic6263 2 жыл бұрын
I liked this guy the moment he spoke. You can tell a great teacher within seconds. God bless S.T.E.M.
@polostyle7151
@polostyle7151 10 ай бұрын
THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE YOU. Im literally sending this to few of my classmates and couple of my electrical friends
@DonTgurdy1488
@DonTgurdy1488 Жыл бұрын
Dude. This is awesome. Great way of explaining it. I totally get how this works, but being able to explain it is very hard for me and this way of explaining it is perfect.
@mindingownbusiness555
@mindingownbusiness555 3 жыл бұрын
Best explanation ever. I finally understand!!!!!!!!!! Thank you.
@robertochavez8196
@robertochavez8196 2 жыл бұрын
Great people share their knowledge!!! God bless you!
@jolyonwelsh9834
@jolyonwelsh9834 Жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation I have ever seen.
@bobbyj3553
@bobbyj3553 10 ай бұрын
Wonderful info, thoughtfully and clearly laid out
@AM-dn4lk
@AM-dn4lk 2 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation/tutorial. Thank you for sharing.
@KinGIIRomE
@KinGIIRomE Жыл бұрын
Wow you are amazing! Thank you so much for making this video. I will share this to all my friends.
@omarcastillo5028
@omarcastillo5028 Жыл бұрын
Amazing explanation! I like the way you teach this topic. Thanks for sharing knowledge.
@GiJoe2226
@GiJoe2226 2 жыл бұрын
I'm about to start my second year of school and man am I glad I stumbled on your videos
@brayanturnquest1435
@brayanturnquest1435 Жыл бұрын
what a master class. an absolute pleasure to see it
@user-hf1wj8bl9x
@user-hf1wj8bl9x 27 күн бұрын
Very good explanation. Crystal clear tome
@emcoalexx
@emcoalexx 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks from Austria for the teaching - work. 🙏
@billlaporte8255
@billlaporte8255 Жыл бұрын
fantastic job explaining this topic
@kevb5802
@kevb5802 Жыл бұрын
You're a very good teacher. I've been trying to find someone to explain this to me for awhile now, searching all over KZfaq and the internet in general and haven't found a single person that can explain this in a manner that I could understand until I seen this video. I appreciate that you took the time to make this. Thank you.
@anthonyferreira1698
@anthonyferreira1698 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dave, easily explains the differences as well as applications. And thank you for the math lesson (brings back memories).
@Rai_Sahb
@Rai_Sahb 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely immaculate explanation
@t19mm
@t19mm Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation Dave, was a joy to learn from ya
@philt6096
@philt6096 9 ай бұрын
My God I needed this refreshing course I'm am definitely enlightened
@ModestMustache
@ModestMustache 10 ай бұрын
Very Informative! Easy to follow!
@charlieperez6844
@charlieperez6844 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your crispy clear explanation! This helped me so much, awesome!
@caseyburke6263
@caseyburke6263 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I recently took over management of a 160 year old theatre that has a high leg delta panel in the projection room. Wanted to get familiar with the system. This video was incredible informative. Don't be worried. It did not give me the the confidence to monkey with the panel. I'll call a pro anytime this panel needs works.
@merlin3921
@merlin3921 3 ай бұрын
Wow, this was super helpful. Thanks for posting this.
@niknasstie
@niknasstie 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly explained. Really helped what i was looking for
@vinjameson3944
@vinjameson3944 2 жыл бұрын
This is some high-quality content here! Thank you so much for making this video! It is extremely helpful.
@oscarquezada9839
@oscarquezada9839 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing explanation. Thank you!
@luis1250
@luis1250 Жыл бұрын
Excellent teacher! That was great explanation, made it look so simple even though it ain’t. 👍👍👍
@cwmalone
@cwmalone Жыл бұрын
Truly outstanding lesson. Thank you.
@tlhIngan
@tlhIngan 5 ай бұрын
The 120/240V thing was actually a late 19th century thing - all derived from the Great Fire of Chicago. Edison lamps were made out of carbon, and used 110V, however, other companies figured out how to make lamps using tungsten, a much more resilient metal and could work at 240V (carbon lamps burn up at 240V). Since adoption of electricity was much slower in Europe, the European utilities went with 240V as it saved money on copper and is more efficient. Our 110V system was derived as a split-phase system, because Edison noticed that some people's lights were brighter than others. So he designed the system as two 110V generators (this was DC, mind you) and connected them together to form a third neutral line. He realized by monitoring the current flowing on the neutral line, he could determine how bad the imbalance was and rebalance the grid so the same number of lamps were on each half so everyone's lights were the same brightness. In addition, if you needed more power, you had 240V (DC) available. Now, electrification was huge in the US - especially after the Great Fire of Chicago which meant everyone started from scratch, and skyscrapers were a thing. Gas lamps couldn't be lit more than a few stories up, and everyone wanted electric lighting. So much so that demand for light builbs was so big even though carbon lamps were obsolete, Edison was still making millions of them as the tungsten lamp makers couldn't keep up (in the late 19th century, they made around 10 million tungsten lamps, and Edison made nearly 60M carbon lamps. This changed about 20 years later in the early 20th century when carbon lamps were finally obsolete and replaced with tungsten lamps. However, by now the die has been cast - 110V had been around for so long, there was no appetite to change over to 240V.. In Europe, electric lamps were seen as a novelty, and very few people had it. The rich folks refused to install it in their castles, so when it came time, it was trivial to switch over. Oh, and the first war of the currents was between Edison and Westinghouse, not Tesla. The second war of the currents was between GE and Westinghouse which dictated if we'd use two-phase (Westinghouse, via Tesla's patents) or three-phase (GE, Edison had been kicked out) AC. Tesla is confused in these because Westinghouse bought Tesla's AC motor patent (and later all of Tesla's patents). That patent showed how a motor would work at 60Hz two-phase. You have to remember though, that just because of this, power was still not quite standardized as you could get DC, 60Hz, or 133Hz AC power (133Hz because Westinghouse managed to find a design for an electric meter but that required 133Hz to run properly).
@Sparky-ww5re
@Sparky-ww5re 6 күн бұрын
133Hz from my understanding, was more commonly used with carbon arc lamps common for streetlights and in factories and large retail stores from the early 1880s until the early 1900s, because it flickered less than 60Hz. You also had very oddball frequencies such as 25, 33.3 & 40Hz, to name a few. The early days of electrification must have been a very intriguing time to live through. And all this was in major US cities, many farms and homes in rural areas didn't have electricity until after WWII, my grandmother recalled not having electricity until merely a few months before she married in 1947, born in a farmhouse in 1925 and lived to be 96.
@ms.crystal8280
@ms.crystal8280 2 жыл бұрын
Your the best thanks so much for simplifying this process.
@four20smp
@four20smp 9 ай бұрын
Big help!! Thank you!
@chrismaas8466
@chrismaas8466 11 ай бұрын
Good info, thanks for putting this out here for people to learn from.
@rpmspeedyblue
@rpmspeedyblue 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome job of explaining 120/240 and 120/208 theory 👍
@gregchambers6100
@gregchambers6100 Жыл бұрын
"Hot water heater". (snicker, chortle, guffaw). Perfect lesson, yet again.
@marvinnoay-ey3ze
@marvinnoay-ey3ze 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for a additional knowledge it's very important specially in my daily operations. Electrical lineman here in the phillipunes thanks a lot.
@terreld24
@terreld24 Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation
@aly8848
@aly8848 Жыл бұрын
You are way better than any professor I know. I graduated with EE from college also.
@jameskegel991
@jameskegel991 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome job explaining
@ogapromotion5486
@ogapromotion5486 Жыл бұрын
Your explanations are clear
@Mike_Rundle
@Mike_Rundle 2 жыл бұрын
This was excellent. Thank you!
@hotspin19
@hotspin19 2 жыл бұрын
Great teacher. Awesome job
@kumkoss9432
@kumkoss9432 Жыл бұрын
Good teacher. Love it!!
@iliakotliar7723
@iliakotliar7723 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for excellent lesson
@jefersonbronze
@jefersonbronze Жыл бұрын
Excellent class!!!!
@sambathbunkh
@sambathbunkh 2 ай бұрын
Amazing video and explanation
@cristianaguilar3748
@cristianaguilar3748 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video!!!! For the case of the delta transformer. As we can determine the current in each winding to determine the single-phase and three-phase load distribution in them and thus their optimal size, this in the case of being a bank of transformers.
@markgigiel2722
@markgigiel2722 5 ай бұрын
Well done. And I actually saw the fireworks first hand at work when one of the guys installed a bunch of new 120 V fluorescent fixtures to a 208V high leg by mistake. WE also had 277 VOLT stuff that people made mistakes with. Luckily we worked for BIG OIL. They could afford it.
@mtz5582
@mtz5582 Жыл бұрын
Hi Dave.Thank you for being a great teacher and wish you more prosperous life for current and coming generations..Is there any book you can recommend for me to read so I would understand how to read and interpret electrical schematics from very preliminary level..I am currently studying City and guilds level 3 in electrical installations(UK) and very passionate onto fixing domestic appliances.Many thanks.
@AT2Productions
@AT2Productions Жыл бұрын
My favorite term for the high leg of a delta transformer for 120/240 is the "bastard leg."
@tomcarter5892
@tomcarter5892 Жыл бұрын
Amazing instruction.
@1007usmc
@1007usmc 2 жыл бұрын
Awsome video, really enjoyed it
@mcarroll598
@mcarroll598 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@georgicakov6541
@georgicakov6541 Жыл бұрын
@dave, great job explaining the topic. I am getting a (grid-tied) solar system installed which only outputs single 240/208v connected to the Red and Black terminals on the breaker panel. Wonder how is the 240/208v transformed into split phase (2x 120v)? There is no video created on the topic, might be a great opportunity to make one.
@jensschroder8214
@jensschroder8214 11 ай бұрын
In Germany, the middle circuit is used, the Y circuit. Transformer voltage from hot to neutral is 230V and from hot to hot it is 400V.
@arthurmorley3991
@arthurmorley3991 Жыл бұрын
Very good work there
@ahmedfadul6767
@ahmedfadul6767 Жыл бұрын
Great video, very clear..thanks!
@mmh1922
@mmh1922 Жыл бұрын
Clear and enjoyable!
@user-sz7ok3sl2b
@user-sz7ok3sl2b 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! great Video!
@TubeTime123
@TubeTime123 Жыл бұрын
Great video sir
@JZ-oz5tv
@JZ-oz5tv Жыл бұрын
Subscribed! love your videos
@anilkrishnashaw8570
@anilkrishnashaw8570 Жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, on the delta configuration, on what voltage we put the tap on each winding to get 3 phase balanced 120V? Would wait for the explanation. Thank you for the video.
@mcdrone3932
@mcdrone3932 8 ай бұрын
@davegordon6819 Dave, I absolutely enjoy your topics and teaching method. I have a question I’d love to see you do a video on. There’s a debate in the RV industry about the use of voltage stabilizers. Some say not to use them, as they will drop the voltage for the rest of the RV users, as the stabilizers sacrifice current for voltage, therefore pulling more current and lowering the voltage at the post. My take is that if there is low voltage at the RV post, say 104V, instead of 120 per leg, the appliances, Air Con, refrigerator, etc.,inside the RV are going to pull more current, as they maintain their power requirements. Therefore, boosting the voltage with an autoformer, will reduce current consumption at the RV, but will consume more current at the post, making the current equal to that without the autoformer, minus some inefficiencies. Am I off base here?
@deanlhouston
@deanlhouston Жыл бұрын
Another EE here, and I like your teaching style, you dive just deep enough into the theory for the non-mathematically inclined to still understand the important concepts. It would be so easy to try and "prove" that you know the theory, but at the risk and expense of losing your audience, and that makes a poor instructor! You make it easy for those just beginning to learn the electrical trade to understand. Nice work!
@zachmccartin1871
@zachmccartin1871 3 жыл бұрын
This should have more people watching
@hayderaltaleb6897
@hayderaltaleb6897 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@preston2784
@preston2784 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Really gonna help me with school
@fuellessgenerator6893
@fuellessgenerator6893 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning, I have a VFD in which three phase induction motor is attached to and I have a capacitor bank to correct power factor lag. I want to know if it's a good idea to implement both power factor correction and a VFD? Thanks for your good work.
@scottmcintosh9
@scottmcintosh9 Жыл бұрын
Good explanations! Do you speak on DC motors with a Lithium Battery power supply?
@ramatraghubir1295
@ramatraghubir1295 2 жыл бұрын
Good explaining picture worth 1000 word finally understand grounded from grounding
@DFameSR14
@DFameSR14 Жыл бұрын
Great video
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