Absolutely, but not suprised considering the way things were in those years.

Totally agree, and how can you be 15 and not know anything about sex?

​@@Zuzzanna my daughter is 13 and is pure. She is Christian raised, homeschooled and knows her body is a temple. Some people raise innocent children. I am editing this comment due to the fact that people here keep saying I need to educate my daughter about sex. Well she is completely educated about sex and life. I hope this helps with all the confusion

Maybe he believes speaking about something so evil, then evil will attract itself to her like a magnet.

Wasn't it because the murderer said to his victims if any of them talked about it or reported it to the cops that he would come back and kill them? Isn't that what they said soon after that part about the dad saying not to talk about it? Unless it was for a different reason but that's what it sounded like.

SUCH a great comment 👍👍💯💯

yes, unseen is great! always focuses on the victim, and not the disgusting culprits.

You're so right about that!!! But he's still not very popular partially because of that. And it's sick and awful. People just like k1llera that much :(

Yes! 💯💯

Could you please, give me the name of the “ true crime “ Channels that glorify the killers? I’m subbed to several true crime channels and watch many more, and I have NEVER seen any of them cover these types of crimes and do it I. A way that glorifies the killers. So...please give me an example of a channel that does it and an example of HOW they did it.

Yeah I agree. I think it’s good to make your kids aware of all of the dangers in the world because you never know what might happen. Keeping them ‘innocent’ won’t help in cases like these. Better be safe than sorry after all. My parents didn’t tell me about it, I learnt through media and social exposure. But I feel like this is sort of the case now with all the Modern technology.

I totally agree

I think you've mischaracterized what the father meant. He didnt want his daughter to be looked upon by others in a shameful way. He possibly didnt want others judging her through gossip and inuendo. It was a way of protecting her. Thats how it was back then. When women who were sexually assaulted often feared talking about it because they felt shame and feared it would attract the wrong kind of attention. Stop judging things by todays standards. How judgemental you are.

@@starryian007 I 100% disagree and btw, everyone is judgmental you nincompoop just not everyone says it out loud you holier than thou soap boxer.

Yes, expect for s-

Easy to say when the world is completely different, people look will look back in 40 years on us and think the same about certain things while it is normal for us right now. Instead learn from the experience rather than looking in a negative way towards the parents because they did something that isn't considered normal now 40+ years ago.

@@optyfen5276What a moronic take. This isn’t a matter of “moral relativism.” It was objectively stupid by ANY standard to leave a child alone with a rapist around, and it was objectively detrimental both to the girl’s health and the investigation to tell her to keep quiet about it.

​@@Zarastro54 You totally miss my point. Things were different back then. I'm not gonna comment on the leaving the child alone thing because there is a lot of context missing. However it was back in the day quite normal to not talk about certain things and keep quiet. Things aren't like these days where we encourage people to not keep to themselves etc, the whole mentality these days is different. Perhaps you never had experience yourself or from anyone sharing regarding how things were done back in the day otherwise you wouldn't have come here with your 2023 mentality "how could they leave her alone." "why did they tell her to keep quiet." Convinced that what your worldview is now should have been the case back then too.

@@optyfen5276 No, it seems that I got your point exactly, because all you did was give a round about explanation of moral relativism. Just because something was “normal” back in the day doesn’t mean it was right, nor that people back then were too “naive” to realize it was wrong. My grandmother grew up during segregation and even back when she was a child, questioned why she had to get off the sidewalk for a white person. When someone does something objectively harmful, they are free to be judged regardless of time period or position. Norms of the time explain but do *NOT* _excuse_ the harmful behavior of said people.

@@Zarastro54 I never said what they did wasn't wrong, I gave context on why it may have happend which is a different way of life and thinking. So yes it does seem like you don't get my point since I never excused the behaviour otherwise I wouldn't have said to "learn from the experience."

same

Same

Same smh

Yeap

Same. Why would they not thought of that. Just start searching from the investigation team/ cops

youre not supposed to talk to your kid about sex. its perverse and taboo and improper and uncomfy lol the vast majority dont, even and especially in the usa in the super religious south, teens get preggo and they dont even know what sex is or that it makes babies. most sa victims involving rape by a stranger or family friend or relative as a kid or teen, they repress and dont talk about it 30+ years later. its a thing. look it up. its part of the patriarchy, male dominated society. where woman are views as unclean, damaged goods, and at fault with a lifetime of shame attached when they come to harm by a man.

The attitude towards talking about sex (& sexual assault) was significantly different then. Her father may have thought that talking about it would traumatise her & therefore best to ignore it. We know better nowadays though.

I’ve come across a few cases from long ago like this; families hushing loved ones as though it will bring shame to the family, and either way vindicating any feelings of shame the survivor may already feel. I’m glad things are societally different now. Talking about these things with a professional is the only way to start the healing process. Trauma like that doesn’t simply go away by not speaking of it. It’s simply “out of sight, out of mind” for those viewing the victim, pretending that all is well when it damn well isn’t.

Her family were also traumatized

@@eleanorsanchez That doesn't excuse them.

Agreed! He should've been caught while he was still young

Yeah I agreed it's unfair

He lived his life to the fullest , I honestly don’t think anyone got Justice , but he didn’t get away with anything because he will pay on judgment day

@@mysongsmitch8528theres no judgement day. Stfu ab your man made religion

Yeah, it's totally unfair he got to live a full life! I think in cases like this they should allow the victims to do with him what they will...if he survives, send him to jail to rot! If he doesn't, well no loss and maybe some healing!

Welcome to the U.S.

@@aqqq9053 so scary & unsafe seriously

​@@aqqq9053 More like welcome to society

@DPSFSU The Zodiac Killer was operating in this area and has never found.

Kkkops are trained liars and killers, they're sadistic bullies. Every unsolved murder makes me wonder if it was police who did it.

Yeah I saw that CCTV footage. They caught him exercising in his cell.

what about the pain,humiliation and destruction he bought to the victims and their families.

@@noriwilliams4637 What about both?

​@Wade Wilson me too

Small peni*

It really was!

Don't think he really cared much. And it was juvenile on their part.

After all the terror and fear he caused, who cares if it was juvenile?

@@illumindonnaughty right? Like he stole many of those peoples innocence. I think being .1% childish by laughing at a fact is totally called for.

@@illumindonnaughty Life is for the living. So if you debase yourself by acting juvenile, who are you then? How are you better?

Hello, how are you doing? You got a very pretty smile.

Am sorry about your loss, am from Pennsylvania and you?

@Daniel Ruben sorry, my son posted that comment, the stinker. Thank you. I am happily married.

This aint tinder@@DanielRuben-xg5me

​​@@DanielRuben-xg5mebro wth is this behaviour not to mention complementing and asking anyone where they are from is completely disturbing or bad, i may sound very rude but this type of behavior is very bad not to mention that the lady who commented was a mother and was married

Aside from the horrifying deeds - it's was a genius move and he probably felt like god, doing whatever he wanted. After all he got away with it for 40 years and now is chilling in a nice prison while others take care of him.

Its disgusting, it makes me wonder who are we supposed to trust if we can't even fully trust the authorities anymore? I'm glad he got caught and the victims got to laugh at his face

@@Roseberry606 it's terrible.

With the way they reacted (tell her to never, ever talk about it), I'm guessing they're your typical delusional people who think "It only happens to others" and who'd rather close their eyes and ignore the truth, than face it.

The grown ass man walking into people's houses attacking them is the failure

It was the 70’s. People also smoked cigarettes with their kids in the cars. No seat belts, no child car seats. I walked 5 blocks to school and home by myself starting in grade 1. I had a key and would come home to an empty house until my parents got home from work.

...And don't forget.. not making her aware that there was a threat in the first place. Add all that up and you have negligent, deplorable parenting. I'm angry for her!😤

​@@lulasnannajodie7723 No, he is the MONSTER. That has already been established.. and leaving your child unprotected in the midst of a monster is failing at the highest degree!

same

They are too slow in this case allowing all these things to happen. I think they should start patrolling the area 24/7. It would at the very least decrease the victims number

And dna profiling had been there in the 1980's. In my opinion it's the cop's fault to let so many people getting raped and some murdered.

@Joanne Heng They did NOT "let so many people get raped and murdered." They worked countless hours over YEARS trying to find the serial killer. They did not find out who it was, and then choose to do nothing, because he was a former police officer.

@@joanneheng4475 DNA will do nothing if there is nothing to compare it to and he was not in the database either. Also back in the 80's even 90's there was no consistent national database. There were many. So pinpointing it would have been hard and of course cops usually don't have felony criminal records anyway and their own are rarely originally suspected. Look up Dennis Rader the BTK serial killer cop or forest ranger. His spree started in 1974 and was finally arrested in 2005.

I believe you

I believe you

I believe you, be brave and strong,ask help from right people ❤❤❤

You have alot of courage, and that's a good thing. Dont let anyone downplay what happened to you, it didnt happen to them, they dont know how you feel. I'm appalled your mom still obviously has feelings for this guy, she can be having a hard time accepting his betrayal. She should also be seeing a therapist to get over him and understand your situation better. No victim of such a heinous act should have to pretend like its peachy after what they did and have to have what should be a cherished and precious moment be tarnished by their presence. I truly hope your mom doesn't extend an invite to that pos. You've been so strong so far, you have to stay strong, but be smart. Notice the red flags in how he acted, try not to cloud your memories with bias because when you get away from this, you need to know that you're not with or around someone who is just as terrible a person. This world is really full of them. But it also has good people, you just need to know how to identify them. The vilest people can have the most charming smile. Actions can give them away, not just words. I wish I can tell you about the stain I know, but the hindsight burns and the regret is blackening. He was a fake friend, we trusted him too easily. Plan your future, too. It can get better but you need to know what to avoid and where to go. Plan for yourself first, once you are secure you can extend a helping hand but be cautious. Know people, it will be hard but knowing the right people can get you a long ways- a little push of help can have a big impact. I hope you can enjoy the now, dont forget the past, and start planning an out. A great start is get your high school diploma! Graduate. There are a lot of great jobs that just require that- you dont have to even have a high GPA. Just graduating opens so many doors and starts you at a slightly higher than minimum wage job. It honestly seemed trivial to me, but having it has bailed me out of chump jobs, I couldn't believe it. That diploma was even going to get me an even better spot at my job. One day, you will find comfort and be able to get through a night peacefully. I dont think that will happen soon, though, but just be brave, be smart, and know you are courageous and you have authority of your life, you just need to plan and connect with peers who are also striving to go out and become something, or can help propel you forward. Dont settle, research what you can do, seek out scholarships too. You dont have to even go to college you just have to apply to scholarships and you have a chance to get money. They're alot like mini jobs, like write an essay or some simple academic thing. If you have a school counselor, they should have branches you can reach to for scholarships or opportunities to get you some reputation that will give you a leg up in the world. And if they're slags, reach out to your teachers. Dont depend on one, ask many- librarians, coaches, teachers, even your local store cashier might have an opportunity or know something. Your counselor may know something too and can help you get yourself a future. And stay away from drugs, they act like they can help but it just creates a circle of agony. Just find your independence, it's worth the fight, but it is a hard struggle. And watch out for anyone trying to impede you, be tactful- dont trust easy. It's easy to fall into complacency, but you can relax in life once you get a foothold for yourself. Many people have been in your shoes, how you handle it and where you go depends on you, dont let anyone say you cant, show them all you can with or without them. Many have before. I'm weary of your mom, too, I'm worried she may try to jeopardize your future. She doesn't seem like she has been dealt a good hand either, but I dont want her to make you feel like you owe her. You deserve more happiness. You have such a bad hand to deal with, I truly wish you the best, I know I'm just a voice on the internet, but I remember the world feeling like it was trapping me when I was a teen. But now that I'm older and I have a friendly circle who want me to do good in life and better myself, I dont feel that way anymore. I have ups and downs but they're caused by myself now, I dont have anyone breaking into my life unwanted. You can be a rule maker too.

@@guardianforce3460 I hope Cupcake sees your comment. There's a whole lot of wisdom and excellent advice there from someone who speaks from experience. I hope she copies your comment and refers back to it over the years, I think it will mean more and more sense as her life unfolds. You are a thoughtful soul to share what you learned to help others.

😭😭I’m sorry but the first sentence

Unfortunately it's one of the reasons why guys like him do what they do 😞 because of penises shaming they have anxiety about sex with women because of the normalization of penis shaming and they get treated like less than they developed a hatred towards women and sexually assaulting them to get the power back it's so unfortunate 😞

that would be a way to identify it yeah, but kinda pointless, he was near 80 years old, dont get why talk about that, but glad he finally paid for his crimes, even if too late

Small dick syndrome 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that explains a lot

He was angry because he had a small dick 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Unfortunately is one of the reasons why guys like him do what they do, penises shaming can cause a guy who want to have sex so afraid to be treated like less than that they're willing to do what he did to get the power back over women it's really unfortunate😞

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What do the 🐝 mean?

Oh I misplaced it damn-

He killed a lot of people too.

I was just thinking about DNA

Thanks to Paul Hole who discovered this case again and helped find and catch the man.

@@Dio-xo9rv Your conclusion's based on what?

@@Dio-xo9rva video about a vicious serial rapist and you have the nerve to make such a sexist comment. I’d say you be ashamed but you probably lack the ability. Looking at your other comments I see your ignorance is beyond repute.

@@Ambander1🤡🤡

@@Ambander1and the case itself wouldn’t have happened if a male didnt commit those gruesome murders and rapes. what’s your point?

​@@reyphobicwow. Amazing logic. Like there are no videos of females being murderers in KZfaq. How stupid and misandrist. Must be feminist cancer.

Really? I thought he sounded like an idiot. Everything he did was disgusting and cowardly. He couldn't actually fight, or at least was scared to deal with anyone close to his size, so he broke into homes at night when people were sleeping or when men weren't home so he could catch them off guard and restrain them. He was so insecure about himself that hearing a man say he'd kill him made him feel like he had to "prove himself." But at the end of the day, that man knew exactly what he was. He went out of his way to try to torment his victims and make himself feel powerful, like in those phone calls, but all I hear is a man desperately trying his hardest to be the big bad monster, when he really was just a coward.

Same. I heard this years ago as a child in a crime doku and was so freaked out.

@@kaitlynblount7683 I agree with you! That is knowing what we know now though. I would be terrified to receive a call like that, especially knowing a local killer was on the loose. He definitely did sound like an idiot though, reminded me of Ghost Face from Scream. You're right that in hindsight, you can really see how this is a terribly insecure person who wanted to feel powerful but only from behind a mask and over people who were caught off guard.

He sounds stupid

It's crazy you made this about you.

Were born*

Couple OF decades* Your reality is terrible grammar.

​@@Renee-rw7un well is it about YOU instead? I highly doubt it. 🤡

@@YourNightmare4u2c Dude, this is the internet, not a fucking English essay. Did you make yourself feel superior by correcting me on a youtube comment?

Patton Ostwalt replaced her with a new girl in about ten minutes.

@@ghostmanscores1666 even if you went through the exact same experience it wouldn't be fair to judge. He got engaged I think more than one year later but that really isn't important. Nobody can tell what Hell means to others, and everybody survives it their own way. His daughter still has a loving mother to grow up with and I think it's what Michelle would have wanted.

​@@videovedo36Nah, I will judge. That's weird and almost sociopathic...like damn dude. Her body isn't even cold yet!! Oswalt is a CREEP

@@videovedo36 oswalt probably killed her, can i judge about that?

You do realize that a lot of people LIVE alone, right?

There was human evidence, on all of his victims. But when they were finally able test the DNA they just couldn't find a match as he had never been charged or arrested before

Agreed! So fascinating how many new things you can uncover about a case you thought you knew top to bottom. This channel is fantastic 👍🏻

Me too! I didn't actually realise this was about the golden state killer till nearer the end because it focused more on the victims' stories!?

the victim impact statements are not for the perpetrator. they are for the public and the jury lol for the maximum amount for sympathy. keep in mind they are not actual proof and are not allowed in court sometimes. they are low hanging fruit to get a conviction based on emotional outrage.

Yeah, I couldn't help but think about that. That dude might have actually enjoyed knowing all those women were still affected by him, hurt by him, decades later. Knowing they couldn't move forward, they had to struggle with that trauma for a lifetime might have given him more joy than anything. Since he likes power and being the dominant _maybe_ the small penis comment and laughter did reach him, but I doubt anything they read to him did anything. Especially if we take into consideration the one victim who "annoyed" him was the teenager who act all passive and told him she didn't care.

I agree, but I also think it gives the victims some sort of power back and gives them closure so I understand why they do it.

@@Libellulairethe victim statements arent for the pleasure of a killer its for the reward of the victims in a way getting that out of their way

A pathetic cowardly creature to the last.

@@alisaforster28691 ooooo edgy

All a pathetic act like his entire life

@@alisaforster28691 so I hope you become a victim

@@alisaforster28691 hope ur the next victim

agreed

Very impressive. The Final Net budget was a healthy one.

Because the killer was threatening to kill, the world is not always so black and white. Lots of gray areas

People today need therapy because someone nearby sneezed! 🙄

⁠@@sarahgilbert8036that was a victim ur talking abt not some random middle school girl

So tragic she was a good human being

He’s still alive.

I bet she unloaded in a diary

I can’t believe his daughters didn’t talk about it anyway.