Sounds like a fun class😁.

@@-sweyn-9559 Yep, they are a blast. When only a ½ dozen dates are critical to nail down history, you have a lot more time to spend understanding history. The Inquisition was one of the darkest times in human history. Even the Black Plague was part & parcel of the Inquisition, for the killing of cats contributed to the increase rat infestation.

@@glenmccall8854 really sounds like a fun class.....

Often movements such as the Anabaptists or rebaptisers. They were sect that quickly degenerated into polygamy, murder, cruelty and mayhem. Of course they were wrong. Baptism of infants was valid, normal and accepted practice from the early Church forward. Often a repudiation of this sort was based upon ignorant zeal harnessed by pathological individuals. As occurred in Munster Germany under Jan van Batenburg preserved the violent millennialist stream of Anabaptism seen at Münster. They were polygamous and believed force was justified against anyone not in their sect. Their movement went underground after the suppression of the Münster Rebellion, with members posing as Catholics or Lutherans as necessary. Some nonresistant Anabaptists found leaders in Menno Simons and the brothers Obbe and Dirk Philips, Dutch Anabaptist leaders who repudiated the distinctive doctrines of the Münster Anabaptists. This group eventually became known as the Mennonites after Simons. All these groups were a rupture and repudiation of Christian continuity in doctrine and belief.

@@johnfisher247 Hi John, Everyone has a back story. Might you give us the perspective from which you approach this study. Your background, your back story, from where did you find your material. Thank you very much for your time.

Bruh same

Its full of misrepresantions and downright lies. I'm not defending the Inquisition but it's a totally one sided presentation and takes the 14th Century as we judge the 21st.

Not trying to take sides??? Wtf. The Inquisition was nothing but absolutist evil. The Cathar religion was a form of Christianity that did not hew to the dogmas of the Roman Church.

Well....one side was burning people alive.... and the other people were just trying to live in peace. So I think I can work it out as far as sides go.

@@robertgiles9124 as a proud heretic myself I only saw one "side" depicted. The despicable side of religion. As power and control is the only true goal of religion, despicable is it's only side.

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The Cathar bloodline today is involved in high-level pedophile rings, but go ahead and choose to believe that whites are evil persecutors rather than investigate the allegations for yourself.

@@MangaCarta You don't even know who the Cathars were, so don't write nonsense. White Jews are not real Jews.

Try the "holy blood and the holy grail",an old but fascinating book

Indeed, a pioneer in the discipline of micro history.

or people searching for Jesus outside the roman killing and torture machine.

There you are brother, are you a follower of the eternal thread or an objective viewer of human history? Doesn't really matter, it's the same thing in the end. The only real difference is that of an experience and the observer of an experience..

no. that's not true. the Spanish inquisition had built in safe guards that the 12th century inquisition lacked. CNN had an excellent documentary on the Spanish inquisition.

"these people think that the Church is an authority on morality is incomprehensible" Okay, then who is an authority on morality, you?

@@lucascesar029 Well, the Ten Commandments are no moral guide. The first three are only about a God’s narcissism. The next 5 are covered by the secular “do unto others as…”, and the last 2 concern a natural competition that drives that the world’s reproductive goals and commerce. Nothing special here. The Church fails entirely on being the caretaker of morality. Thousands of thousands of people have been murdered by the Christian religion through the Crusades and the Inquisition. The Church has robbed the people blind with tithes, indulgences and fees for every possible service. Threatened with an eternity in hell, the uneducated and indoctrinated were terrorised by an institution dealing in lies and making horrendous demands. (I still hear people expressing such fears on KZfaq interviews today!) Not one of its postulates were based in sufficient evidence. It was, and is, all a lie. Presenting its Holy Book, The Bible, as he Word of God is an absolute hoax as there is no real evidence of its veracity. Written by desert artisans over 2000 years ago it is held together by superstition and myth. There is nothing moral it has to offer, quite the contrary. I would expect a Book of Religion, written by a God, to be exceptional and clearly written with far greater skill than men could. It’s not exceptional at all. In spite of many saying that it is a great piece of literature, I do not agree. Pope St Gregory stated, “Ignorance is the mother of Piety”. The Church acts on this by indoctrinating the most ignorant of our people, starting when they are in the cradle. The converse is also true, “Piety is the mother of ignorance”. This adage is true, especially in regard to America. People using the words God and Trump in the same sentence confirm this. They succeed in ignorance by book burning and banning when reading more is what is required.

A rather simplistic explanation sadly

@@busyb1513 I think your five word response is far more representative of “simplistic”.

@@kimlowe705 yes thank you I would call it concise and to the point . It’s always easy to judge the past through our modern lens but thank you for the compliment

The Cathars were an evil, twisted cult of dualists.

Just when I was about to despair! I grew up in the Languedoc and appreciate your accurate comment. Thank you! 🙏

John Fisher- I believe the Cathars were an ascetic Christian sect that did not believe in the Trinity, but believed in two deistic principles, as opposed to the Catholic Church’s monotheism. I refer to Charles Henry Lea’s reference ‘A history of the Inquisition of the Middle Ages’, a 2,800 page work of three volumes on the topic. The Franciscan and Dominican friars became the perpetrators of abuse and torture of all heretics, including Cathars, and the process included confiscation of all assets, buildings and goods, the proceeds of which partly went to the friars. Those assisting heretics also were ‘treated’ by the Inquisition, and subjects were tortured to reveal acquaintances. The loot acquired through confiscations became the driving force for the Inquisition’s persistence. My vision of St Francis of Assisi communing with nature, a bird alighting on his wrist, was demolished by the realisation that his order became one of the most cruel and brutal organisations of all time. The amount of hate generated by minor variations in Christian dogma is incomprehensible. That victim’s families and friends attacked and killed inquisitors is of no surprise, but each time this happened, the repercussions were severe.

​@@kimlowe705 theologically, the Cathar apostacy wasn't a 'minor' difference, it was, and is a major one, but I take your point around the violence.

So it's a battle of ideas, except, as usual, one side had more swords. Very good analysis.

Ergot is the only substance that comes to mind. Is there others? I'm fairly certain that disco biscuits hadn't obtained any popularity in 14th century France.

@@brianroyster7510 your just making that up

@@allenlindsey1175 😁

Banning doesn't work. Heroin is banned but you can get it in city, town or community in the U.S. with ease. Teaching people to think for themselves is the only defense against the opiate of the masses.

Is it possible you're looking at religion from a modern and woke perspective? As most of what we hear about religion comes directly from modern and woke sources, and is vehemently anti-religious..well, all except for the religion of Leftism, which is a religion as it fits all the criteria for what makes religion..they can deny all they want. America, and really, most of the nations in the world at large have state sponsored Leftism as the national religion..so, it is easy to look at traditional religion in a bad light when we are all inidated with media to look at it as a bad thing..so, if you haven't, try looking at traditional religion from other perspectives, and if you have, I stand corrected and I apologize.

You're quite an dictator huh?

Also not true, elohim is plural. So they didn't know.

Yeah, we should really see a more reasonable version of this story that shows how valid it was that the church murdered all those people. Can't believe we would get this white washed history lesson that makes it seem like church-sanctioned murder is a negative - just nuts, right?

Yes this narrative in this clip is a retelling of the story from a woke or purely contemporary view. In fact the Cathars are best seen as a sect or as terrorists!

@@johnfisher247 the essenes were similarly viewed. And there are those that argue Jesus of Nazareth was an essene. The teachings of Jesus contained in the biblical gospels reflect, at the least, an essene influence. The beliefs of the Cathars seem to hold some of the same influences. The history of the inquisition absolutely reveals the true terrorists of the time. So far the Vatican holds the world record for terrorism.

@@johnfisher247 John Fisher, I appreciate your perspective, rare as it is in our collective cultural state of disdain for history and historical facts and verities.

"salient elements"? Hey, lets do this - let's bury our heads in the sand and ignore the disgusting, self-serving behavior of an institution that lays claim to timeless and universal moral authority in favor of historical "context". Sorry, you can't have it both ways, and these parasites can now reap what they have sown.

Simply evil then and now.

Look up the seige of Montsegur, many mercenaries converted to Catharism even though they knew they'd be burnt

If only the Church was full of comic geniuses that help us learn to laugh at ourselves.....the world would be a better place.

This is literally the only thing I came to the comments for so thank you

the funny thing is, they often notified people a month before they came so some may change their ways.

We didn't have the Inquisition here and it didn't stop us, I'm afraid humans have a need to explore and take it's not just a European trait it's in all of us otherwise we'd never have left Africa!

@@ladydreadqs639 the persecution of protestants by the catholic church is a primary reason for early European migration into the new world.

Sorry but this is not accurate. The Inquistion in Europe had no bearing on the settlement of the early settlement of North America versus The Americas. Most of the early settlers came from Protestant countries and they were for the most part Puritans, who had strict rules and conflicted with the established tennants of the Protestant church and therefore governments/ kings/power brokers. This is why there is still large communities of Amish, Mennonites etc and originally people from Scotland (as well as escaping after the Jacobite rebellions). After the colonies were established it had nothing to do with faith and religious beliefs but money and the plantations (with Slavery being the main driver of the commercialism). Once there was money, and therefore also power and influence, the Dutch, French, English went on a land grab......the English succeeded in part until 1776, France in what became Canada until ousted by the Britain after losing the US. Then came the migrants from across Europe, irrespective of religion, social standing etc to seek their own futures and be the fodder of the existing social heirarchy and money. No different to what they left behind.......just different names. In Spanished controlled South America the Roman Catholic church were equally or more rabid with the Inquisition etc, so no 'Heretics' fled there.

@@ladydreadqs639 Leaving Africa had nothing to do with exploration, as the human brain had not evolved sufficiently enough to have this as a concept. Rather it was driven by climate change, especially in the growth of the Sahara, which forced the now northern Saharan roving bands of hunter gatherer humans to seek sources of food, which lead to the humans diversifying in to the Mesopotamian basin and eventually in to Asian Steps, Russia and eventually Western Europe. Here they met the Neanderthals, who had migrated to Europe 100's of thousands of years earlier from Africa and for the same reason......climate change......as Africa got too hot, so they migrated to colder areas, but this time europe and africa were linked and migration was easier than when homosapiens migrated past Africa.

@@iainrendle7989 what's the, "Protestant church?" There's multiple denominations of Protestantism, Puritanism is just one of them. It's established historical fact that the early European settlers in North America were literally the ones who were being persecuted by the Catholic church in Europe at that time. Later on after the Catholics settled down it wasn't fueled primarily by slavery, (only >2% of the Whites in the New World were slave owners) but the promise of land and industrial potential. Only the left creates a false propaganda of history that, "White's only came to own slaves and steal Native land!" Which is mostly false. What's funny about you labeling the foundation of America as a, "land grab" is that the English and French settlers tried to coexist with the Native people's and provide them with civility and law and order, but the Native people literally kept killing them. Literally, the settlement of North America is a legacy of Whites trying to make peace with the Natives and the Natives killing off the Whites, repeatedly. Sure, you can say, "oh but White people killed Natives, too!" But, for starters the majority of NA deaths were related to unintendedly spread disease. Secondly, most armed conflicts were initiated by the NA population and the Whites would respond by slaughtering them. This continued until the 19th-century when Whites just sort of stopped trying to coexist for almost 400-years with Natives so they said, "screw it" and marched them to the desert where they couldn't be a threat to anyone anymore. Mind you, the NA who actually wanted to be a part of society were/are allowed to at anytime. So characterizing the foundation of the USA as a, "land grab" is very showing of your inherent bias.

wow so deep, extremely learned thinker over here who has transcended religious belief after watching a documentary about Cathars

@@andrewhuch1useless comment from the peanut gallery Lmao at people like you….

@@andrewhuch1 watching a documentary about history.

And who are you to claim that you see what is true because you read a specific book which is nothing different than this documentary? Propaganda comes from the lack of trust within one's self, and the persecution of others who simply disagree with the true elites. "Christianity and Politics" as we can easily see today with our own eyes. Is enough proof for me to see that this story is basically a mirror image of what would happen today if religion was the law of the land.

Stoning children, slavery, and genocide are in a book, too. I wonder which one.

thank you ! was exactly what I expected and the reason I looked at the comments first modern media really sympathizes with those gnostic extremists of old was there ever made a non-pro-catharic documentary ?

@@feldgeist2637 Not that I am aware of. Its just a vehicle for the Catholic haters to vent their spleen and virtue signalling to show how " progressive " they are . Pathetic and laughable simultaneously.

@@feldgeist2637 considering how effective the church was in destroying and hiding the written records of those gnostics and promulgated false information about the same. It is reasonable to question the narrative that they encouraged infanticide and other horrible acts. The church used this type of propaganda to encourage genocide.

Christianity ain't a bed of roses either pal

The Cathars were not white and gnostic. The Cathars were black people who did not worshiped the name Yahweh, but worshiped a God called Ahaya.

Are you high?

Umm bullshit.

What did protestants do with native Americans other than finish the job started by the church?

I pray you find the truth of the Roman Catholic faith.

@@brianroyster7510 the conquistadors followed the roman - chatholic church. if you're referring to what the british people from their colonies in northern america did to the native americans those were followers of the church of england, a church created by herny viii. after he was not allowed to divorce his first wife, catherine of aragon. lutheranism, calvinism, etc., all other sects of protestantism, didn't do anything to native americans

Would you mind translating that, please?

Thanks i heard that just ahead of schedule before the full send…lol close one

Let me guess, you think Catholics are pagan for repurposing pagan festivals?

The were not Christian. Why not actually know something factual about what you are commenting on ? It's just a thought...

@@conlaiarla you seem to be making some assumptions based on the usual RC party lines. Do not ever assume that Christians you meet online haven’t studied church history. Some of these folks will make you look like a fool very quickly. But, I digress, to ask you a personal question. Do you believe the bloodshed of the ages, when it comes to religious beliefs, is what Christ was referring to when He spoke of praying for our enemies? Hey, I know, let’s start another inquiry into your beliefs and see if YOU can stand the test. Do I hear a second?

@@conlaiarla Who anointed you arbiter of faith and belief? Whether the Cathars meet your questionable standards is not the topic. Committing murder on people who don't share your spiritual beliefs is perverse and unchristian hubris.

@@tlcmc6451 he’s just here to be a blessing.

@@Micah4_12 Talking to yourself and liking your own comments is a sign of a damaging egocentric individual.

And you will see him soon

What a creep!

Unfortunately you have to be careful with the word atheist. Most people, bc of religious teaching, think that it means a dogmatic believe that there is nothing other than the here and now. If people understood that it's simply a statement of a lack of evidence for a god or hereafter. I hope that this life isn't all there is but I have no evidence that there is anything after death. I certainly have no evidence of God. But if I'm to be honest I do believe in a source. What that may be, I don't have a clue. But if questioned I identify as atheist/agnostic.

Yeah, the Soviet Union was an great example of this wasn't it? You fool.

This is the history of the Roman Catholic Church; regardless of the narrator, you can’t change the history, even if you don’t like it.

I am sorry and there is no evidence of the Roman Catholic church ever altering any part of history.........and leaving things out and/or selectively forgetting events that they do not want to take responsibility for. Like the memory loss the church has for the support for Franco, Pinotche, Hitler, Mussolini, Peron etc.....convenient!!!!!!!! Remember your Pope has actually apologised for the Inquisition in Spain, and I do not think that Pope was a Protestant.....I made be wrong. However he has not abolished it as it was just rebranded to the Sacred Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith in 1908 and is still a very powerful department in the Vatican.

If you look at the names of some of those involved in this production it would appear that many of Jewish heritage are involved. I am shocked I tell you !

@@marycopeland4049 I bet that you are an authority on the subject eh ?

HODER, I am a college professor of Ancient History. My PhD program was concerning the early years of the Catholic church. Everything that I was allowed to study in that doctorate program had to be published by the Vatican. I have been over & over this video looking for mistakes. From my studies, this video is extremely accurate. If you have a specific issue, indicate what it is, and I will delve into, using the Vatican library.