'15 Jeep Patriot - Crank, No Start

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4 ай бұрын

In this video I bring you along as I take a look at a customers 2015 Jeep Patriot that was towed in as a crank no start. I was assuming it was the classic rotted out relay block. This case was a little different.
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@steveb6103 4 ай бұрын

McCoy was also the name brand of an automatic oiler that was used on steam engines. They were the best. It's where the phrase. "The real McCoy " comes from.

@buckhorncortez 4 ай бұрын

My...you've in 5 cents with that piece of nickel knowledge...

@riblets1968 4 ай бұрын

Just in time for Black History Month. I almost forgot about that guy!

@kevinrenn9123 4 ай бұрын

And no McCoy list would be complete without mentioning the building supply store by that name or the feud with the Hatfield clan

@Andy_Hinners 4 ай бұрын

or the song Hang on Sloopy by the McCoy's

@cgoad 4 ай бұрын

Ah yes.....Elijah McCoy - a Canadian-American engineer and inventor.

@Hey_Its_That_Guy 4 ай бұрын

"A man's got to know his limitations." - Dirty Harry (Clint Eastwood)

@Dirtyharry70585 4 ай бұрын

Thanks

@aderi31415 4 ай бұрын

"Mankind has got to know its limitations." - Dave Mustaine (paraphrasing Dirty Harry)

@garysparks2681 4 ай бұрын

Magnum Force

@Mike44460 4 ай бұрын

Said to Lieutenant Briggs just prior to his assent to heaven.

@billdoodson4232 4 ай бұрын

Best movie saying ever.

@freetolook3727 4 ай бұрын

@19:52 Yup, the old "It worked before I brought it into the shop for other repairs", conundrum! Then you get into the "You're just trying to rip me off" mentality. 💸💸💸😂

@russellhltn1396 4 ай бұрын

You can't let the intern go until he's had a chance to say "It's dead, Jim". :D

@ecleveland1 4 ай бұрын

Damnit Jim I’m an automotive technician intern not a magician!

@kenj.8897 4 ай бұрын

@@ecleveland1hey now I used that line 2 days ago .

@nobodyhome8148 4 ай бұрын

"It is life Jim, but not as we know it"

@terryburke2587 4 ай бұрын

The saying is actually “He’s dead Jim”.

@21Piloteer 4 ай бұрын

Spock, I'm a doctor, not an escalator!

@rogern5368 4 ай бұрын

The old “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” sometimes is the best way to go ! “ As always Thanks for the post !

@mitchellcochran4338 4 ай бұрын

My ol lady has been asking for a Jeep and I usually say 'You mean heap?' Just to rile her up. Lol

@tbyoda9475 4 ай бұрын

man it never fails to amaze me how unprotected the fuse box in the bay that is always exposed to moisture.

@farmermiyagi1338 4 ай бұрын

McCoy gonna have to learn to say "Dammit Eric!!"

@kristopherhoward2963 4 ай бұрын

I’m an intern not a mechanic 😂

@victorhoyt4352 4 ай бұрын

McCoy, you are watching a master at work. Bring your notebook errrday and take notes my friend. I'd kill for the opportunity you have!!

@YOUZTUBE2000 4 ай бұрын

😂How do you think McCoy got there? Three of his class mates are still reported missing!

@shuaybhanif5882 4 ай бұрын

Yep

@Mountain-Man-3000 4 ай бұрын

Glad to hear your gas sniffin ability has returned. An important safety feature in any shop!

@paulzent3646 4 ай бұрын

McCoy is a very lucky guy working and learning from a true master mechanic like you! You are knowledgeable, honest, and generally nice guy! Honesty is something you don’t see much of any more in New York. I can say that because I am also from the “Peoples Republic of New York! Salt and rust capital of the USA.

@TeemarkConvair 4 ай бұрын

thumbs up neighbor,but i DO know some honest techs,,kinda like almost anywhere,,it's always the poop smell that spreads the fog over all..

@paulzent3646 4 ай бұрын

@@TeemarkConvair I am retired master mechanic

@paulzent3646 4 ай бұрын

And I have to watch out for the dishonesty in the Auto and truck repair shops and dealers in NY when I need to get work done on my vehicles. I know a lie and what BS is but they still try to get over on me. I’m too old to do my own repairs anymore I really have ch to watch what they do! Dealers, independents some are just stupid or untrained idiots others are just dishonest to the bone!

@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 4 ай бұрын

Good diagnostic, Eric! I noted that it was around minute 5:34, when you were checking pin 85 with the test light, that the LED went full brightness, and you hadn't touched the fuse yet. Maybe it was the relay socket that was making a bad contact.

@rgmoore 4 ай бұрын

Agreed. At that point, Eric had his test probe connected to the ground, and when he touched what we would find to be the ground side of the relay, it got bright. I would suspect a bad ground somewhere. If true, it will be back.

@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 4 ай бұрын

@@rgmoore My thoughts exactly, but now he knows where to look, if it returns.

@chriskenney1459 4 ай бұрын

Agree with this comment. That relay socket might need a closer look. Love the channel Eric, I've learned a lot. Trying my best to keep my 2003 Ranger (B4000) from rusting away in NH!

@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 4 ай бұрын

@@chriskenney1459 👍

@timwilliams3696 3 ай бұрын

Yes it looks like the control ground could have high resistance causing the light to be dim. I also noticed a blip in the light when McCoy switched the ignition I believe. The LED was doing a lot around 7:23

@ohiowrencher8650 4 ай бұрын

No good deed goes unpunished... I 100% concur with how you handled those green crusties...Let customer know and go from there...

@fivefortyeye540i 4 ай бұрын

Super lucky young fella to have you as a mentor

@njb7209 2 ай бұрын

I have a feeling this one's coming back...😮 ❤

@AdeptHavelock 4 ай бұрын

Takes me back to when I first found your channel 5 years ago Eric. My '09 Patriot 2.2D had the corroded ASD relay issue and you helped me locate and solve it for peanuts and time. Been a follower ever since 👍

@MrBrucebarrett 3 ай бұрын

Love this. Watch your videos more than Netflix now.

@joemehere1151 4 ай бұрын

"A man's gotta know his limitation" I believe is what Clint would say. Another great diagnosis! Well Done Eric

@JeffWinter1 4 ай бұрын

"A man's gotta know his limitations." I think that's a Dirty Harry quote. Good video. 👍

@kevinrenn9123 4 ай бұрын

I know what you're thinking: Did he change 5 or 6 spark plugs? Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I kinda lost track myself

@hpd385tannoylover2 4 ай бұрын

They put the main relay THERE? On a 4WD? Man, I thought Land Rover were stupid.

@rvmagnum5415 4 ай бұрын

I have been a mechanic all my life and had my share of it was fine befor you touched it.

@johndoyle4723 4 ай бұрын

McCoy is a Scottish family name, the family motto was Manu forti, which means "a strong hand". He will find a strong hand very useful in your trade. Staggering to realise I was watching Kirk, Bones, Scotty,Spock and all the rest of the crew over 50 years ago. Of course, excellent video as always.

@SimiNelsonFamily 4 ай бұрын

My favorite philosopher, Dirty Harry. “A man’s got to know his limitations.” Good call on the green crusties. Let the customer know and decide.

@kevinrenn9123 4 ай бұрын

I know what you're thinking: Did he change 5 or 6 spark plugs? Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I kinda lost track myself

@jonnyrockets4756 4 ай бұрын

I bet McCoy knows more diagnostics by now than most people will ever know. Keep it up.

@markfirearms8922 4 ай бұрын

Another Clean & Reseat of a Fuse or connector fixes a problem. We in the NAVY called F... Magic (FM). 😎

@Mountain-Man-3000 4 ай бұрын

HA! In my air force unit it was JFM. Just Fn Magic. 😂

@garyrobinson8991 4 ай бұрын

Famous Magic ?!

@terryburke2587 4 ай бұрын

We called it PFM…pure freakin’ magic

@major__kong 4 ай бұрын

A related gremlin is the queertron short for queer (weird) electron, a term I learned in the Navy. The source of many "could not duplicate on the ground" complaints in aviation.

@brettperkins4643 4 ай бұрын

DREADED TIPM.our town and country. Nightmare, replaced TIPM twice, fuel pump, ignition switch, various other things, spent over $6,000 and never did find out what it was. Summer time started every time, got cold out and it was hit or miss. Now the wife unit drives a Toyota 😊

@nobodyhome8148 4 ай бұрын

In my Pajero it was a $3 temp sensor.

@LuisGonzalez-jh3um 4 ай бұрын

Amen brother, if it ain’t broke don’t try and fix it. Best lesson I learned many years ago, keep up the good work man!

@larryreagan6936 4 ай бұрын

Here in Tennessee we call the green crust "gremlin poop" great video as always! 👍

@JacobEcret 4 ай бұрын

Ooo a video, watching on lunch at work. Top notch wiring diagram editing in this video

@SouthMainAuto 4 ай бұрын

Thanks. It takes a little extra to do that but I think it helps to see the process overall.

@JacobEcret 4 ай бұрын

@@SouthMainAuto I don’t know how much you’re getting off this KZfaq gig, but it’s probably not enough, you’re losing money on your business to make us happy and I’m sure we all appreciate it.

@SouthMainAuto 4 ай бұрын

It all works out in the end :-) @@JacobEcret

@alial-faesly2902 4 ай бұрын

Don't worry about him haha this 'gig' making my man damn near what his main job is earning

@anianowak4949 4 ай бұрын

@@alial-faesly2902 It's lovely to hear that! Wish You All a house on Hawaii

@tedstantz1185 4 ай бұрын

“Your a legend in your own mind “ not you Eric it’s another quote for Eastwood. Your just a legend!

@Look_What_You_Did 4 ай бұрын

*you're...

@garygardner9677 4 ай бұрын

I'm retired now but spent my career in the west. You run into more green crusty stuff in 1 month than I did in several years. I enjoy watching you working through the process. Must watch stuff for anyone looking at turning wrenches for a living. Also, good call not touching things unrelated to the original complaint but taking notes and informing the customer of potential future problems.

@kirstenspencer3630 4 ай бұрын

Me retired too. Coastal driven cars in California can over time develope green krusties only less pronounced. Have found hidden high resistance on older classic cars.

@ShainAndrews 4 ай бұрын

@SouthMainAuto 5:34 That is the first instance where your LED fully illuminated. 5:41 It remained bright. At this point you had not touched the TIPM... 6:35 Then there is some tomfoolery with the key... but you were providing ground. But then it stayed bright even after removing ground. I'm not sure what to think about this one yet.

@williamdyckman9704 4 ай бұрын

Eric, you are so good at diagnosing with those wire diagrams. Learned alot here! Thanks !

@tylermiller6204 4 ай бұрын

I love these videos. I can never get enough of them.

@stationaryenginesworldwide 4 ай бұрын

Thanks Eric and McCoy aka Bones for my evening entertainment. Another great video from SMA!!

@daviddelle774 4 ай бұрын

Changed up the exit from "I" to "We". I like that. That is the way to be. Another great video from you. Thank You!

@ghost37666 3 ай бұрын

That was the CLEANEST and most SHINY electric component pins in all of SMA history.

@MrGerryoc 4 ай бұрын

Drinking game every time Eric says McCoy lol

@supersam1914 Ай бұрын

Helped a neighbor with a no start last night so she can get to work and it always feels good to hear that baby turn on afterwards . Your channel and Paul’s have helped me a ton your a great teacher .

@victorbellan8357 4 ай бұрын

A good chase down to something simple, hard for you to accept! Still leaves you unsure !

@dav8388 4 ай бұрын

You didn't notice the light on the tester got brighter when you put the test light in pin 85.

@blackkimba2079 4 ай бұрын

I seen that. I suspect bad ground

@craigwilliams4137 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I thought the same thing.

@calholli 4 ай бұрын

I did.. I was confused when he didn't explain what it was doing. (5:20) - His test light was tied to ground--- and when he tested that ground side (because he thought it was the power side at first), it would light up that little red LED, but not the test light. So for me, that means that the computer was sending a bad/weak ground control-- and he just gave it a good ground through the test light.... That doesn't explain what ultimately fixed it though.??? Maybe the bad connection was at the relay pins and he just scrapped them "clean" with his test adapter box...? He didn't really do anything to fix it--- it worked the first time he manually flipped that switch. So maybe it was just a bad/ stuck relay and that's it; and handling it made it break loose and work again for now.

@imjohnny88 4 ай бұрын

It got bright every time McCoy turned the key. He finally noticed when McCoy left it on. He should really look back on this to be sure.

@erisgilliard7341 4 ай бұрын

I think that is at about 6:40 when with the test light attached he had McCoy turn the key off and then back on.

@peterhodgkins6985 4 ай бұрын

Don't disturb the rat's nest until you have a contract to fix it! ;) Good call on the red/wht wire corrosion!

@freetolook3727 4 ай бұрын

250,000 mile Jeep? It's a museum piece! 😂😂😂

@jeremyhanna3852 4 ай бұрын

Wrong a fiat jeep that is rare but I got 3 90's jeeps 2 cherokees and wrangler they all got 300k plus on them going strong

@glenharper3136 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video Eric and McCoy.

@jimburgess9205 4 ай бұрын

Excellent video.

@Bizija123 4 ай бұрын

Glad you got Caleb helping you now

@elcheapo5302 4 ай бұрын

The internet: Chrysler junk! 250,000 mile rust belt Chrysler economy car: Please reseat one of my 10 cent fuses and I'll keep going.

@Averna222 4 ай бұрын

There's always an exception to every rule :)

@stevenakn1 4 ай бұрын

Just as I was scrolling through reading all the dumb comments the internet totally redeems itself 😊

@anianowak4949 4 ай бұрын

Amazing!!

@MookieMan1 4 ай бұрын

Yeah except what you don’t know is that the fuse is loose from when the engine and trans had to be replaced for the 3rd time.

@tjroelsma 4 ай бұрын

It IS piss-poor engineering though. My trusty old Smart Forfour is 18 years old, has always lived here in the Netherlands where we have all kinds of terrible weather, and yet it doesn't have problems with crusty electrics. Now compare that to a vehicle that supposedly has been designed to go off-road like this Jeep and you can see the problem. This is simple penny wise and pound foolish engineering by Jeep to save a couple of dollars.

@abevigoata5761 4 ай бұрын

a: It always makes me feel super old when the youngsters don't get old pop culture references, b: McCoy didn't use the horn when backing out. :-)

@WhiskeyRiverRifleman 4 ай бұрын

You made the right call brother

@TheWibbo 4 ай бұрын

in the airplane service it is common to extract and reinsert fuses and relays, re racking, to prevent green crusties. i do it annually on my motorcycles.

@stevenkerwin4041 3 ай бұрын

I drive an older Michigan car. Every time I remove a fuse or relay, it is a wrestling match.

@wk7060 4 ай бұрын

Looks like McCoy is coming along pretty well with you Eric!

@richarddiaz8248 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the lesson gained from your experience

@petemedina8446 4 ай бұрын

Awesome job there

@billmalec 4 ай бұрын

Down here it's the Hatfields and McCoys. Just don't make him mad. 🤣

@normangallant9879 4 ай бұрын

Nice find

@splatmanhooha4264 2 ай бұрын

Marvellous engineering, its an off-road vehicle, it'll go wading, there will be water down below so that's where we'll put the fuse-box! so glad I own a Land Rover, all my electrics are high up!

@PK15306 4 ай бұрын

Hats off to the owner getting 250K. Definitely not a Friday or a Monday car.

@jack002tuber 4 ай бұрын

That has to be with the odometer upsidedown. Its really 52K

@davidstreling3690 4 ай бұрын

actually my daughter had a 2016 Pat on her mail route and sold it at around 175 k it held up fairly great 4 wheel bearings total and spark plugs every 30k, and 1 transmission service at 80 k

@dougkubash8673 4 ай бұрын

i agree on leaving the green crusty wire alone! The truck fired up and backed out of the shop. After a few years in the business a person learns.

@SouthMainAuto 4 ай бұрын

When you deal with the general public you learn real fast to cover your butt....or you sink

@dougkubash8673 4 ай бұрын

I can understand!@@SouthMainAuto

@brucehobbs1734 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, another SMA video!

@jesseburns9734 4 ай бұрын

I think i seen the LED brighten up at 535 in the video on in testing with the brake out box. Great job as always. God Bless you all.

@taylorjennings2218 4 ай бұрын

Nice work McCoy

@kennethd7048 4 ай бұрын

It was very interesting watching you, you there, hooking up the box looking for a short. I'm not very electrical but, I watch you and Bernie all the time. Awesome..

@randymoser5225 3 ай бұрын

Had a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee random engine dying. Found and aviation mechanic on utube found the problem ECU cover on engine firewall cover screws too long. All I did was back them off. He put in shorter screws. That did not get into motherboard causing ground. First praise for utube help 🎉

@HueToobBlows 4 ай бұрын

Nice find. in situations like this, I'll usually give the fuse legs a slight twist so that they grab the connector better.

@missulu 4 ай бұрын

Great video! The ones that start working when you 'touch' them are the toughest to diagnose!?! I've seen it in brand new equipment, and once I touched them they never acted up again.

@stealthg35infiniti94 4 ай бұрын

Deoxit 5 is your friend on those intermittent contacts.

@scientist100 4 ай бұрын

He has those

@larrymitchell3502 3 ай бұрын

Big AMEN to Deoxit. Treated new server RAM sockets, HDD power & data connections & mainboard power connections with it. Had multiple servers run 24x7x365 for FIFTEEN plus years. Three times Dell's maximum warranty period. Deoxit works.

@mok4191 4 ай бұрын

If it ain't broke... Good call, as usual. Thanx for another good one Mr.O

@mikechiodetti4482 4 ай бұрын

When you think you've seen everything, something new comes along. As fuses and other electrical parts age, corrosion seems to find a way to coat the connection points almost like it's magnetically attracted. Even in Southern California. I've seen that milky white coating. Hopefully, that's all it was this time. Good one Mr. O.

@frankapplegate1364 4 ай бұрын

Very thorough. Leave no stone unturned while not creating other problems.

@mikemiller3565 4 ай бұрын

Lots of poking and tracing. Hoping no return on the bad connections. Nice to see the thought process.

@frankl1955 12 күн бұрын

I got one of the original U-activates. Cool little tool .

@markroper9269 4 ай бұрын

Very clear video! Nice catch! We could see the crustiness. Love that you have someone to pass on your wisdom to..... 👍 🖖

@toenails. 4 ай бұрын

I just seen on the news they say that car repairs are breaking people because of the extremely high cost of repairs on these new high tech vehilces.

@polok890 4 ай бұрын

That's their intention

@chriscagle6863 4 ай бұрын

Fun to watch as alwats... Thanks

@user-tf2ve8uh6p 4 ай бұрын

Pay attention mc Coy !!! Great Teacher you have there Son

@gottahavegoalsset 4 ай бұрын

Good good, like to see the process.

@JB-tz9pi 4 ай бұрын

Finally a patriot video!!

@Stoney-Lawson 3 ай бұрын

Agreed. We handle those situations like that as well.

@CedroCron 4 ай бұрын

TIPMs are a problem without green crusties, so you absolutely made the right call not frigging with it further.

@jrm255 4 ай бұрын

Does Mcoy like icecream? Probably makes a good moonshine float.

@donniev8181 3 ай бұрын

You got to know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away, know when to run!

@rockysuperstar1 4 ай бұрын

Nicely Done ERIC :-))

@tonygiraldes7848 4 ай бұрын

Just the greatest 🙂♥️

@lvsqcsl 4 ай бұрын

I would say you know when to hold 'em, when to fold 'em and when to walk away. (I remember a Suzuki you walked away from, Eric.) In all the years I have been following you, I haven't seen you run. IIRC Kenny Rogers said that in his song "The Gambler." At this time, the 'ol Marquis has twice the mileage that Jeep has. GREAT VIDEO!

@ppeters480 3 ай бұрын

I think you are totally right on the ship it down the road, surprising that a Liberty has made it to 250K miles !

@chrischenusa6323 4 ай бұрын

Just surprised today you didn't vaccum all the leaves under the TIPM. Yes, don't mess with this box until is really necessary. Your diagnosis is good Eric.!

@rickowens4397 4 ай бұрын

The AEWave led light comes on at 5:44 BEFORE you remove fuse 33 at 9:40.

@jw4620 4 ай бұрын

Good advice.

@greggc8088 4 ай бұрын

Chrysler folks carry spare TIPM's in the back with the spare tire.

@Taillighttim26 4 ай бұрын

You fixed the problem that is what you needed to do it runs now

@totalyep 4 ай бұрын

Dude is genius.

@clintprice2123 4 ай бұрын

You don’t have your guy tap the horn prior to backing out of the garage? Nice diagnosis as always Eric!

@jeromewink557 4 ай бұрын

At 13 minute he comments again about thinking it was dim. Somehow I perfectly moved the slider back to early in the video and by total luck landed EXACTLY on where he's showing the relay box and commenting about how dim the LED is.

@alfaomega1482 4 ай бұрын

It is good call

@MRrwmac 4 ай бұрын

WTG there Mr. Know it all….haha! Great diagnosis!

@stevemazzarella7212 3 ай бұрын

I agree with dealing with ppl that way!

@edwicks 4 ай бұрын

Gotta love the Daimler issues , worse than G.M. if thats possible ! Another fine , informative video Mr.O good job my man !👍

@1976Datsun 4 ай бұрын

That was a good one.

@AKChryslertech 4 ай бұрын

I just got that asd main relay code as well! Had to cut out the relay box and make my own. The compass i did it on didnt have the wheel wells in so the corrosion was enough to make ya cry.

@dustcommander100 4 ай бұрын

The LED went bright and then out at about 6:38 when McCoy turned the ignition off, Seconds later, when he turned the ignition back on, it came on bright, never to be dim again. For what it's worth, that's what it looked like.