'16 GMC Sierra - Cranks OK, Won't Start

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27 күн бұрын

In this video I have a look at a customer's 2016 GMC Sierra that was towed in because it had died on him. A few simple tests show the problem and lead us in the right direction. Now I am just waiting on approval from the customer.
-Enjoy!
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@BlewShirtGuy 27 күн бұрын

Some people will never understand the excitement of getting to replace a fuel pump in a vehicle that isn't full.

@JacobEcret 25 күн бұрын

Honestly

@skater4life31683 25 күн бұрын

That is a rainbow unicorn! Capture it and see if we can replicate it! I have never done a fuel pump unless it's full. Thanks Mr O!

@timd1833 25 күн бұрын

Most of the time, customers bring in cars for repair with a nearly empty tank. Have to put gas in before road test(s).

@Richard-or2km 25 күн бұрын

Hard to keep a full tank with some of the gas prices lately.

@JacobEcret 25 күн бұрын

@@Richard-or2km agreed

@LMacNeill 23 күн бұрын

"It doesn't feel like a red lock; it feels like a gray one." And *THAT,* folks, is how you know you're dealing with an experienced mechanic. Knows by *feel* what the different connectors are. Expert level: ∞

@tomoakhill8825 25 күн бұрын

I live 30 miles from the GM World Headquarters. I live 40 miles from the GM Tech Center where all their engineering is done. I have lived in this house 40 years. Our winters are identical to Eric's. It is incomprehensible to me that they design and build those drop down spare tires. They will not work if rusted, and the engineers place them out in the open under the vehicle where winter salt can splash on them. It is incomprehensible to me that they design those fuel pumps to sit in a depression on top of the tank, where any salt water thrown up during our Michigan winters will remain for ever. The salt can never ever get away, and is available to cause damage every single day it is wet year round. Just invert the depression to a mound. You will get the same strength benefit, but the water will flow away.

@garyalford9394 25 күн бұрын

Maybe they should put one of those lawnmower deck clean out spickets above it!! Remember when Ford put a padlock on their spares!!

@livnowpayl8r 25 күн бұрын

Engineers design these for manufacturability and minimum cost. They never work on them or expect them to function beyond the factory warranty period. What a sad state of affairs and an enormous waste of resources to crush 10 yo vehicles and make new ones…

@jeffleach2668 25 күн бұрын

I grew up in Novi, MI and have also lived just North of Eric in Rochester New York. For whatever reason the rust is far worse in New York. Can’t really explain why though.

@next0845 25 күн бұрын

They engineer it to fail so they can sell Eric O the parts to fix it. MONEY!! 🙄

@truracer20 25 күн бұрын

My 02 f250 has a poly tank with a big poly lock nut.

@isaacwalker7863 25 күн бұрын

Vanessa didn’t seem as impressed by the fact that the spare came down without any fight as she should’ve been😂 you are definitely living right with that one.

@clintprice2123 24 күн бұрын

Mrs O is tired of hearing how amazing Eric is. I built My wife the house we live in, I get no credit for it, she is too used to what I can do. My customers on the other hand are very vocal about it and are floored my wife is so matter of fact. Maybe the replacement will be better 😉😆

@CedroCron 26 күн бұрын

Remember when GM said in their commercials... "GMC, we are professional grade" ... I guess the engineering department designing the parts didn't get the memo, or they did and the "bean counting" department shredded it. Just sayin!

@jimandnena4 25 күн бұрын

Bean counters and the sales department are the shot callers any more. And, MPG is the new Holy Grail.

@CRobertTv 25 күн бұрын

@@jimandnena4 sad that they leave them modules out in the open. What they thinking no water or etc cant get to that module ? Like smh. i know what it is. $$$$$$$$$ breaks down they think you would bring it back to the dealer so they can sucker money off of you. If they placed this inside i bet the problem wouldnt happen.

@Paul1958R 25 күн бұрын

Arent you glad we saved gubment motors

@jeffreygoss8109 25 күн бұрын

I’d vote the ceo. Their only concern is short term stock prices.

@davidlampe4153 25 күн бұрын

What they meant was the commercial was professional grade, the other parts and junk aren’t even remotely close to withstand the conditions of New York State and the salt on the roads. Eric’s whole demeanor changes when the spare tire was removed without a cutting torch! He’s excited about that he’s no longer cursed! He’s living right! Southern mechanics be like what’s so important about the spare tire and what’s he going on about??!

@tredaviouswhite8201 25 күн бұрын

I recently found your channel, and now I’m addicted to your videos. Especially the diagnostic videos! One of the best automotive channels on KZfaq!

@SaltMinerOU812 25 күн бұрын

Yeah I've been on this channel for years he is one of the best and I also love the diagnostic videos

@goodcitizen64 25 күн бұрын

I've been subscribed for at least two years and Eric is a fantastic diagnostic technician! He's definitely one of the best I've ever seen!!

@robertsmith2956 24 күн бұрын

@@SaltMinerOU812 I'm beginning to think there is a sting setup going on. He gets a missing fuse nothing wrong, Ivan gets a missing fuse nothing wrong. Iven gets a pump module, Eric gets a pump module.

@jerrys2346 24 күн бұрын

There are a lot of SMA addicts here. It only gets worse the more you watch - you've been warned!

@BigDipper79 25 күн бұрын

This man is one of the best at diagnosing the problem. It’s great to see actual diagnostics. Thank you.

@mlieser1230 25 күн бұрын

My Dad got bit by the spare tire on his brand new Chevy pickup. He took his new truck to the U.P. in Michigan on a hunting trip. The roads up there in the forest have sharp gravel. Dad got a flat. He went to drop the spare and it wouldn't come down. Something about a safety latch so the spare doesn't fall out when driving down the road. He followed the instructions to the letter but couldn't trip the safety latch. He started hoofing it back to town. Another hunter gave him a lift. For some reason they have a holiday where no businesses open until noon on that day. Once the garage opened the tow truck retrieved his truck. The mechanic got the spare down. That evening Dad was talking with a fellow hunter who owned a new Ford pickup. He said he got a flat and couldn't get his spare to lower. The guy wasn't about to hoof it back to town. He had a chain and wrapped it around the spare, tied off to a tree and used that Ford power to rip the spare out from under the truck! 🤣🤣

@terrybirch4324 25 күн бұрын

No doubt about it, Eric's channel is one of my favorites. He so reminds me of my brother-in-law who owned a Gulf station and was loved by his customers before he passed away.

@zedrone7975 25 күн бұрын

Like my old mechanic used to say " these things are made to sell, not work on" 🤣

@colestowing8695 25 күн бұрын

lot of truth in that

@mackmcmillan9905 25 күн бұрын

Holy CRAP at that level of rust on a truck less than a decade old... WOW.

@kenj.8897 25 күн бұрын

Either he has so much money he doesn't care or so broke he can't spend 50 bucks every two years to spray it himself .

@Ironman3901 25 күн бұрын

Welcome to New York State. Vehicles start rusting at around 2-3 years old due to the exorbitant amount of salt on the roads in the winter

@jamesgeorge4874 25 күн бұрын

12 to 16 years is pretty average before the rust takes them, if you aren't very dillegent about preventing it.

@scottlofton2607 25 күн бұрын

Live in Indiana and my 03 Silverado has less rust than this truck

@jamesjette4343 25 күн бұрын

I live in Las Vegas, NV, my 2007 G6 rust is free.

@stu8575 25 күн бұрын

Another helpful troubleshooting video from Mr. O!! Luna is patiently waiting for you to let her back into the office, and didn't want to interrupt.

@Dirtyharry70585 25 күн бұрын

She thinking bahbahbah bah bah, come on open the door!

@soxplayer3907 25 күн бұрын

Always a pleasure to see Mrs o and little Luna..😊

@jimandnena4 25 күн бұрын

I have a used '15 Silverado, 89K. I'm hoping that I never need this excellent information, but I am grateful that you have provided it. Thank you.

@1hjehje 25 күн бұрын

I am now retired, but in 1981 I bought a new Buick and it acted this way most of the time, especially in the winter. I think that it is part of their charm 🙂.

@efrenventura6292 24 күн бұрын

i love the way you determine the color by feel😅

@nickinflorida777 24 күн бұрын

Eric...”nope, this guy might not be livin right” 🤣😂 You made me choke on a sesame stick! 😅😂

@toenails. 25 күн бұрын

This generation of GM truck never fails to.impress with its mechanical failures one after another.

@johnpereira822 27 күн бұрын

Happy Monday Mr O hope you had a good Father’s Day.

@petepeabody8905 25 күн бұрын

Ivan just did one of these too. It was the pump as well. Great diag Eric O......

@lvsqcsl 25 күн бұрын

I was just thinking the same thing. Seems like he probed the same wires, etc. I think the one he did was a 2017; looks to be the same.

@bobgoodman1451 18 күн бұрын

Every time you show the underside of the new vehicles you work on I am amazed by the rust.

@99andrianmonk 25 күн бұрын

Once again, very informative. Glad you didn't take the short cut and go right to the fuel pump. Watching you go step by step is always helpful. One person's perspective, GM is an unannounced sponsor of SMA given the number of GM vehicles that get deposited in your shop. 😊

@mikes-wv3em 25 күн бұрын

car wizard wont even work on american crap any more.

@notsureigaf 24 күн бұрын

On these things the fuel pump module is usually the shortcut, because they're garbage. I was actually surprised when the module worked, their cases tend to rot straight through and then the board gets nuked.

@johnboywaltonbeard4699 25 күн бұрын

Eric O’…You are living right! It took me 2 days to get the spare tire down. I took the Driveshaft out to get to the tank connections easier and chased my truck down the driveway. Whatever you do, do not stand on a 5-gallon bucket!!

@tv43405 24 күн бұрын

Thanks for taking the time and taking us along see ya on the fix

@mrpiccolo23 25 күн бұрын

It's gotten bad: Now I yell 'CHEVROLET!' anytime I see a Chevy driving around town.

@Gizmetti 24 күн бұрын

@notsureigaf 24 күн бұрын

"We got us a 2005 SHIVVERLAY!"

@chrisrutherford8191 25 күн бұрын

Been your content for years now EO. Thanks for all the info! You have helped me for years...thank you brother! Blessings to you, and your family ❤

@jerrymoore7669 25 күн бұрын

Watched Ivan troubleshoot one of these this morning for this issue.

@josephchamberlain9129 23 күн бұрын

I appreciate your efforts to try to save the customer money

@edbernier5513 25 күн бұрын

First we check the fuel gauge? Is the gauge lying? Oh, look at that… It’s out of fuel! 🤣🤣🤣

@ronwatson4902 24 күн бұрын

I've done a couple on the grass. Such a pleasure to watch Eric. Thanks

@mikechiodetti4482 25 күн бұрын

Thank you God! The tank isn't FULL! When the test proved the pump was bad, I immediately thought "Watch. It's a full tank!" Why is it replacing an in tank pump comes with a full tank whereas other repairs needing that first road test come with little or no fuel! Anyway, good testing to locate the problem.

@Tommerd 23 күн бұрын

I love every video. Keep making them for a very long time.... THANK YOU!

@dennisclapp7527 25 күн бұрын

great information - thanks Mr. O

@porkchop4604 25 күн бұрын

Loved watching your buddy Luna chasing something. God bless GMC

@ronaldbrosius7488 27 күн бұрын

Great video, im sure that will definitely help alot of people.

@timothykoeller1491 25 күн бұрын

Eric O thanks for uploads

@donniev8181 27 күн бұрын

Great call on the gray tab, Eric O seeer of colors, master of the money light, protector from rust! lol

@PK15306 25 күн бұрын

When a person is color blind how else do you tell colors? You feel it. Great stuff.

@bigbill709 25 күн бұрын

Nice work on the diagnosis!

@catdaddy3407 25 күн бұрын

Awe !! Sweet Luna the cat so so adorable !! Yeah Chevy and there darn fuel pumps I had just filled up and mine went out and i knew almost instantly darn the luck !!!

@dB_944 25 күн бұрын

One of the first SMA videos I ever watched was Eric pulling a tank on a red Chevy pickup many moons ago. I was hooked! 😊

@jamespearce7954 25 күн бұрын

Great informational video.

@chrisrutherford8191 25 күн бұрын

I'm a long time fan of your content brother👍👍👍please stay doing what mechs do TY.

@jamesbruno5896 25 күн бұрын

Nice diagnosis!

@BejaJ-lz6zk 25 күн бұрын

Thanks for you vidéo Éric

@craigdreisbach5956 24 күн бұрын

Great diagnosis. I have replaced my rotted out silverado pump by lifting the body up on the left side and propping it up with a 2 x 4. Remove 4 left bed bolts, loosen 4 right bed bolts, filler neck hose and left tail lamp assembly. Very easy. Kind Regards. Craig

@jmistret419 25 күн бұрын

Gotta be allot on you running a business and cranking out content for us. Just want to say its much appreciated

@stationaryenginesworldwide 25 күн бұрын

Great one Eric! And again thank you for my evening entertainment. Kind of wish there was 7 of you then I could have an entertaining video every night.😁

@privateer0561 25 күн бұрын

Just replaced the fuel pump on my '06 Caravan. Made certain the tank was close to empty. Broke off the vent hose at the tank end taking it down and found that it was irreplaceable (NLA). A buddy of mine rigged a fix using a cut-off rivet to bridge the gap and some super glue. You need three hands to reinstall the tank if you're doing it on the ground. Make certain you disconnect the well-hidden vent pipe before you drop the tank.

@gregsidel3557 24 күн бұрын

Thanks for the video Eric very good

@roman-kk4ug 25 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@CRobertTv 25 күн бұрын

my dad had this issue. Water got to the plug and popped the fuse up front. I helped him through my phone while working and he fixed it. Sad that they cant put a shield or something around them or better location for it. only way i knew it was the module was from watching your videos !!! These remind me of hondas with the relay to control fuel pump , ecu and ignition

@stevenclaeys6252 17 күн бұрын

Thank you for another Great video. Cheers

@rockoyouthman 23 күн бұрын

Super helpful thanks!!

@404notfound..... 25 күн бұрын

Wow! Incredible what new york state winters are capable of. 😢

@benpatana7664 25 күн бұрын

Nice careful diagnostic that will prevent the parts cannon!

@dnlmachine4287 25 күн бұрын

"A one for the money. Two for the show". Next time you do a Fonzarelli, have that play when you bump the tank. Then, strut into the office and "Yo, Mrs. O!!" Stay gold.

@johngault3973 24 күн бұрын

I count my lucky stars that our 09 ram is just purring along with 229,000 miles without electrical gremlins

@jtb52 24 күн бұрын

Closing in on a million subscribers🎉

@mikerobbins3692 25 күн бұрын

Good afternoon Eric. Tennessee here.

@johnlacroix1639 25 күн бұрын

I like the video and WOW amazing TY so much ,,Keep up the great work

@jerryking2418 25 күн бұрын

Love the Wilbert's T-shirt!

@JackdeDuCoeur 21 күн бұрын

Nice work

@miketeeveedub5779 25 күн бұрын

05:38 - I didn't know they raised the Titanic! Aw Lawd that is one rusty 2016.

@janibeg3247 25 күн бұрын

nice to see your cat again

@JT-dx1qk 25 күн бұрын

Thank God I moved from the rust belt to NC , that underside don't look good for it's age , car work is a breeze down here if you can stand the heat

@chriscagle6863 24 күн бұрын

Nice lesson...

@mikemiller3565 27 күн бұрын

The ol' PWM to the fuel pump trick. An easy way to confuse it as intermittent.

@karencary3312 25 күн бұрын

Quick and easy. ❤❤

@qcan8468 25 күн бұрын

Saw Wilbert’s from I-86 today and wondered if the SMA crew needed an ice cream delivery during this heat wave. Then I decided stopping unannounced was rude. Sorry Eric; here is the best I can do. 🍦🍦🍦

@JRBRestorations 24 күн бұрын

As a former WNY resident living in the South, it still shocks me to see how bad it looks under an 8 year old truck! Seriously, my son's 1982 C10 still has the markings from the factory on it's frame. I know, you are jealous! I hate truck fuel pump replacement time. My favorite method is to take the bed off and replace from above. I absolutely hate dropping tanks. Can't wait to see the fun you will have if you get the job to replace this pump. I mean how hard would it be to add a fuel pump door in the bed??? Thanks for all you do. I learn so much from you!

@pontiacsrule8761 24 күн бұрын

OF everything I do on cars, fuel pumps it what I hate the most. Especially when you only have jack stands. Nice, quick video.

@renereyes4999 25 күн бұрын

I love seeing Luna, the mobile "catscan"!😂😂😂😂❤❤❤

@mrpiccolo23 25 күн бұрын

Coincidence. Today I watched Eric's video on replacing the fuel pump control module on a Canyon. Rotted in half.

@mrkttrdr2919 25 күн бұрын

Luv the Mrs O comment, don’t say it out loud❤, amazing the junk parts in the new trucks, my 05 coly has original fuel pump with 185, 000 , whoops now that I mentioned it I’m doomed, but I didn’t say it out loud 😅thanks for posting

@Dirtyharry70585 25 күн бұрын

Jinx better go buy one now

@mikeklein318 25 күн бұрын

Hi at the beginning of the video u mentioned that his air bag light was on , hope u show that video that's the problem Im having thanks for all of the videos

@27sport86 25 күн бұрын

Those models (and Tahoe, Suburban) have an issue of a wire rubbing through on the inside of the seat causing the airbag light. You need to remove the side cover (closest to the door) and see if any wires are pinched or broken.

@antoinevandamme6506 23 күн бұрын

Replaced my fuel pump last year on a f150. Worked with brake cleaner. Used the pump relay with a wire and it did not prime. Bought an OEM-one at rockauto for 44 euro. Took 6 bolts out of the bed and replaced the pump from the upper side. The pump was 22 years old, so it was time.

@MrTonyPiscatelle 24 күн бұрын

I sure am glad you finally quit bumping into me when we're working underneath a truck.

@davidhollfelder9940 24 күн бұрын

“You, who are on the road .. Must have a code …” .. “drove my Chevy to the … but the fuel rail was dry” Hi Luna!

@OkinSold 25 күн бұрын

Feeling colors on connector locks is one of the funniest things I’ve heard you say.

@danielgarage5276 20 күн бұрын

Love watching your video's. Very informative. Any videos out there showcasing your formal training? Where to learn and expand our knowledge? Thanks in advance.

@bw6078 23 күн бұрын

Something I’ve done for years is to never let the fuel tank get below 1/4 full. I think it extends the life of the pump by not letting it run dry briefly around corners and maybe hard braking or acceleration.

@user-nk3tt6zt2l 25 күн бұрын

My 1990 Nissan, with 975k miles on it, needed a fuel pump just after a fill-up, the next day the starter was replaced. That was the best truck ever 2 parts in almost 100k miles.

@georgereiss998 24 күн бұрын

One nice thing about living in the PRNY is that the bed on your pickemup will rot out and you can replace it with a flatbed. If you're smart you make it easy to remove (pickup camper jacks) and you can do everything from above.

@prussiaaero1802 25 күн бұрын

Worked at a shop. Yes, every car with a dead fuel pump was FULL, anything up to 80 litres. Oh, it gets better, most have no drain bung. Oh, it gets better, some need the tank dropped to even unhook it or begin to siphon it out - no access anywhere else.

@airman6822 24 күн бұрын

Last time I replaced a fuel pump was on my 1999 Silverado and I only replaced it because the fuel gauge was not working. I actually tilted the bed which was not that bad. I don't have a shop or a lift so it was the easiest way and worked great.

@paulhallbom 25 күн бұрын

In all honesty, I’m that guy! But, my fuel pump went out at the gas pump. I hear that the cold fuel can piss those pumps off when it’s 100° outside. It also pisses off a station manager while your truck sits in front of their pump for an hour as you wait for a tow truck. Too bad I don’t have Luna to do a cat scan of my vehicle before I leave in the morning. PS Mr. O, I was able to diagnose my problem perfectly from one of your past videos. Saved me a $120 diagnosis fee! I just didn’t want to deal with a full tank of gas in my driveway.

@user-dk2wj9vf1q 25 күн бұрын

Just get a buddy to help you slide the bed back and change it from up top. Much easier that way. The beds aren’t near as heavy as they used to be.

@weldingjunkie 25 күн бұрын

Why would station "Station" manager get mad? Never heard that before

@paulhallbom 25 күн бұрын

⁠⁠⁠@@weldingjunkiea gas station? I dunno, maybe all their stalls were full and others waiting. Pretty embarrassing to me at the time. You dummy.

@paulhallbom 25 күн бұрын

@@user-dk2wj9vf1qcould possibly be. The bed was rhino lined, and honestly didn’t want to deal with it. Saw a cool trick to cut a hole in the bed as well, but didn’t want to saw 😂

@paulhallbom 25 күн бұрын

@@weldingjunkiemaybe the pump is blocked??? Pretty embarrassing when you’re sitting there. Do you not get what I was writing?

@ojmbvids 25 күн бұрын

Thought I was having de ja vu! I think Pine Hollow did a very similar issue yesterday

@miketaylor6282 24 күн бұрын

I don’t know what kind of deicer New York uses on the roads, but by the looks of the underside of that Sierra it’s some gnarly stuff!

@Larry-sf9nb 24 күн бұрын

I hope the customer gives you the go-ahead on this repair; I want to see how a pro drops the tank....

@cameradoctor205 25 күн бұрын

Ivan's latest video was working on the same module :) SNAP

@PhillipBailey 27 күн бұрын

I didn't think the connector on the tank was that accessible either. If a person doesn't have a bidirectional scanner they could just cycle the key or crank it to confirm the circuit. Good diagnosis.

@franklincormorant8312 25 күн бұрын

Oh man...that frame. And after only 8 years. I'm looking at it thinking "sure you can replace a part but what do you mount it to???" I'm so lucky to live in Virginia.

@Bowhunters6go8xz6x 25 күн бұрын

My 2001 GMC Sierra still has the original factory fuel pump. My fuel quantity sending unit does act up occasionally when the tank is completely full but works fine when it comes down off of full and lower. (they don't make em like they used to I guess.)

@dandydenni1615 25 күн бұрын

Has anyone else noticed? The last 4 of 5 vehicles that Eric O. has posted for repairs have been GM products? I was a GM snob as a young man. Tried a Ford and had problems so then became a Japanese car snob for almost 20 years, then tried German cars for almost 10 years before taking the whipping on ridunkulous expensive maintenance. Now, my wife drives a Honda Pilot and I drive an F150. The F150 has flipped me regarding my distaste for domestics as it costs me less in maintenance than the Honda.

@Garth2011 25 күн бұрын

Most of his customer base own GM vehicles...few of them have Fords or other makes.

@leftyo9589 25 күн бұрын

about the same , a few old mopars, 1 ford product, and a lifetime of GM's. got tired of the bs and bought a subaru. my old Monte Carlo isnt going anywhere, but ive likely bought my last General Mistake.

@kenj.8897 24 күн бұрын

Ford will bite you again .

@jimc.7121 24 күн бұрын

This is why I like my Honda Odyssey. There's an access panel through the floor to the top of the fuel tank. Bada bing bada boom. No need to lower the tank at all!

@genestokes8383 25 күн бұрын

Deja Vu! Today I just watched a Pine Hollow video almost Identical to this one!

@kellyvanorman861 25 күн бұрын

suprised it wasn't rotted and leaking on the top of the tank yet . we do those weekly for "fuel smell" lol

@trevorvanbremen4718 25 күн бұрын

Ivan (Pine Hollow) had a different Chevy video he posted only 10 hours prior with a similar problem... (On his one, the pump was still running, but only pushing 25PSI instead of the desired 60PSI)

@James_Hough 24 күн бұрын

The amount of rot under these NY vehicles never ceases to amaze me. I've lived my whole life in Michigan and northern Indiana, places with real winters that use salt and I have never seen anything like the rot on the vehicles that come into South Main.

@gadasavideos8564 24 күн бұрын

Same here in eastern Ontario. Krown rustproofing is common here and maybe colder temperatures make a difference.

@dougaranda6187 24 күн бұрын

I live in the same county as SMA, and we are downwind from the Great Lakes. All it takes is a NW winter wind, and we have snow. It might not be much, but it’s enough to bring the salt trucks out.