1658 A DIY Battery That Is Crazy Simple To Make

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Robert Murray-Smith

Robert Murray-Smith

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@officialsterlingarcher
@officialsterlingarcher 9 ай бұрын
I was reading up recently how batteries work and had a basic idea of how to make a homemade one similar to this but I was struggling to envision how to put everything together. This video helped wrap all that up together for me. Thanks so much for this video it helped a ton!
@paulmurphy3838
@paulmurphy3838 Жыл бұрын
You have so many great ideas my friend, I dare say you are an academic, perhaps a chemistry teacher but you are so practical, the world and proletarians like me need people like you to make our future autonomous.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
wow - cheers mate
@paulneilson6117
@paulneilson6117 Жыл бұрын
Boss, tell them that Zinc sulfate is more soluble in ethylene glycol. When you construct a cell using that as your electrolyte and you use zinc foil, the paper claims after 10,000 cycles the capacity is still 99%. It's what I call the forever battery. I'm glad to see you found out about the Zinc Iodide battery.
@girthygumbolini882
@girthygumbolini882 8 ай бұрын
This is awesome, thank you for exposing the concepts so well and connecting them together so fluently! Excellent learning tool!
@leialee6820
@leialee6820 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your example of the most simple battery to make. You are amazing. I am pleased that I recently discovered your channel.
@WileHeCoyote
@WileHeCoyote Жыл бұрын
Rob's been producing quality, hands on, battery chemistry explanation and exploration videos for YEARS! Like 7 or 8 years I think. his back catalog of videos and topics would make your head spin!
@frankdelucey2137
@frankdelucey2137 Жыл бұрын
Rob is a great guy. You will learn a lot from him. 99% of the stuff he dose in his videos you can do at home with just a little patience and time.
@leialee6820
@leialee6820 Жыл бұрын
@@frankdelucey2137 Thank you. He certainly seems a great guy with so many skills & so much knowledge. I doubt I will be trying any of it myself but it is sure interesting to know.
@leialee6820
@leialee6820 Жыл бұрын
@@WileHeCoyote Thank you. I am sure it would make my head spin in amazement. What a skill set to have
@angelusmendez5084
@angelusmendez5084 Жыл бұрын
Great project! 👏 A rechargeable battery in three easy steps
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
Indeed! His self charging battery videos are awesome! Did you see the other ones he made?
@angelusmendez5084
@angelusmendez5084 Жыл бұрын
@@captainnemo6655 I did, mate. Plain awesome 🎉
@garethb5729
@garethb5729 Жыл бұрын
Your videos remind me not to be dumb. Isn't thinking such a wonderful think. Thanks Rob.
@serta5727
@serta5727 Жыл бұрын
What an interesting battery 🔋 construction So simple 🤓
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
He has many batteries like this with constructions based on plain paper all the way to plain earth.
@jorgemartin7697
@jorgemartin7697 Жыл бұрын
Dear Robert I would like to share an idea, it has nothing to do with this video but I find it interesting, a few days ago I saw a video of what happened in a jungle when the sections of a bamboo plant were cut, and how pure and clean water emanated from each of the cavities of the bamboo sections and how it was stored there, and how these sections behaved as natural osmotic membranes and taking into account the high resistance of bamboo, it seemed to me that this could have interesting applications such as chemical leaching of some contaminated water or use as separators in batteries, or filters to desalinate water, more ecological and economical and easy to build I leave that idea there in case it may seem interesting to you
@12thsonofisrael
@12thsonofisrael Жыл бұрын
Interesting 🤔
@oldriver1827
@oldriver1827 Жыл бұрын
The professor used coconut shells.
@julianblacksmith8539
@julianblacksmith8539 11 ай бұрын
Can you tell me more about it
@shinjisan2015
@shinjisan2015 Жыл бұрын
Another super useful device for the apocalypse. Thanks Rob :)
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@skepticfucker280
@skepticfucker280 Жыл бұрын
Use to make penny batteries all the time. New penny rubbed on the sidewalk till the copper coating is removed and zinc is showing, put cardboard on zinc penny side and normal penny on top. Get cardboard wet with salty water and u get small amount of power. Stack a bunch in series and you can light up a led or 2. Also pee will work as the liquid.......
@skepticfucker280
@skepticfucker280 Жыл бұрын
@@manoo422 after I think 1983 they stopped making pennies out of pure copper and now they are zinc with a copper plating..... It's the very first form of inflation, adding junk metal to the coins to devalue the currency, now they just hit a button on a computer or print paper. Lol Try it, u might be surprised how little copper is on a penny and how easy it is to wear off.
@rodciferri9626
@rodciferri9626 Жыл бұрын
@@manoo422 Pennies changed radically after 1982 - they went from being 97.5 percent copper to 97.5 percent zinc. So, most pocket change pennies are zinc with a thin coating of copper = rub the copper off and you have a zinc disc.
@skepticfucker280
@skepticfucker280 Жыл бұрын
@@rodciferri9626 sad when the amount of copper in a 1980 penny is worth more then the penny itself....
@rodciferri9626
@rodciferri9626 Жыл бұрын
@@manoo422 Wow - UK still has a "penny" too that is worth less in metal value than the US version and is useless for making zinc discs?! What's next for the humble penny - plastic coins?
@JehuMcSpooran
@JehuMcSpooran Жыл бұрын
There are heaps of simple batteries to make. I made a 0.7v cell from copper wire and sheet iron. It will light an LED and is rechargeable. You can use heaps of different electrolytes in it, works quite well with urine.
@KeyboardBuster
@KeyboardBuster Жыл бұрын
Water world battery.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
yes there are
@brettmoore3194
@brettmoore3194 Жыл бұрын
Using a edison battery while also collecting hydrogen and oxygen when overcharge happens is the best battery solution for off grid solutions. Then mobile batteries could be a different battery type preferably aluminum air batteries that can be recycled at home
@reeferbeleafer9912
@reeferbeleafer9912 Жыл бұрын
I imagine they already could be user recyclable. But where's the profit in that? It seems to me that our current economy is supported entirely by planned obsolescence, at whatever cost. You can't put the onus & responsibility on the consumer for buying it, nor will the manufacturer accept any for producing it. Less than ideal IMO.
@brettmoore3194
@brettmoore3194 Жыл бұрын
@@reeferbeleafer9912 in a world where money is made from thin air leveraged against the chattle through bondage at birth, anything is possible but freedom
@robertstewart6099
@robertstewart6099 Жыл бұрын
@@brettmoore3194 we can complain you realise. There is an engineering solution available that would save the majority of humanity - from at the very least the idiotic oil war. I just can't find anyone who really wants to, as they hardly understand the problem. The problem is of course hidden knowledge. The science of the human mind has advanced to the extent that human nature can be predicted. Our structures use these principles against us for not being organised enough to object. The lone voice of the whistle-blower blower is supported in principle but as all the money of society is controlled through structures designed to manipulate human will. There is no money to pursue the concern and the money suggests the brave individual is a grifter. Anyway I share your feelings, if you can find a few more folk that understand the science. I really don't know how much science you need to read the IPCC report. Our intention to be greedy, selfish but full of good intentions is actually the motivation for the suicide occurring. Our desire to selfishly face no bad consequences for our actions by deferring to those that pay us means all leaders are ignorent of this deception - instead trusting to the corporate protection of reasonable doubt. If there is reasonable doubt it suggests unreasonable profiteering at work. The climate data is very carefully considered information. It might be the best scientific data humanity has ever held. It is really clear. Global war is not even on the top 100 ideas to fight these issues. With a healthy economy it might feature but as we have printed money to run everything at the ragged edge. It looks a bit more like protection money paid to the military by those responsible for the impending catastrophic events. I bet they wished we all went back to believing the earth was flat so they could blame the devil. Data suggests our leaders are killing us and we all know it we just wish it was not true.
@brettmoore3194
@brettmoore3194 Жыл бұрын
@@robertstewart6099 know your enemy, ever heard of the reformation. Why do the Swiss guard protect the vatican? is the bank of international settlements also in Switzerland? Why is everyone born into BONDage?
@reeferbeleafer9912
@reeferbeleafer9912 Жыл бұрын
@@brettmoore3194 Well put but perhaps as modern and capable citizens we had ought to consider ways in which to oppose such a travesty He who trades his freedom for security deserves, and shall receive, neither.
@marlonlacert8133
@marlonlacert8133 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, for this info! Reminds me I made one in grade three.. I had to us Iodine salt, copper and zinc! However, I never made a potato battery..
@dalejrose1287
@dalejrose1287 Жыл бұрын
These videos deserver so much more. How about a solar/wind powered diy desalination system
@stchiovaro94
@stchiovaro94 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding!! Thank you
@bensmobilevideo4363
@bensmobilevideo4363 Жыл бұрын
Dang it! You make these videos faster than I can keep up! I'm not complaining. So, I am looking for a battery idea that is fairly simple and uses inexpensive materials. I have a large footprint, like a small parking lot, so space is not as much of an issue. I have looked at the molten metal ideas but am wondering if you are aware of any other groovy ideas I may not have heard of. Things an old farmer might be able to manage. Thanks, and please continue with your videos. I absolutely love them!
@VacuumTube88
@VacuumTube88 Жыл бұрын
Maybe one of your old tricks for lowering the internal resistance would do great also in this case, add a bit of sodium sulphate to the solution. I think the battery you showed us with the most potencial in terms of versatility and ease of construction is the zinc-bromine one.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
yeah that would work - nice add mate cheers
@travismoore7849
@travismoore7849 Жыл бұрын
I thought about zinc iodine batteries some time ago. Thankyou for doing this. Slowing down self discharge you may try pva or hydrogels.
@glennwebster1675
@glennwebster1675 Жыл бұрын
That's pretty cool.
@geordiew2162
@geordiew2162 Жыл бұрын
Thank You Robert, most enjoyable!!!!
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
cheers mate
@mikaelfransson3658
@mikaelfransson3658 Жыл бұрын
Think zinc galvanized nails! And ask your self do you need a battery like a crystal battery can go on and on! And it's cost a effort and a smile plus some pennies! a coppercoin and a nail! and something little more. Awesome Thanks Rob!
@artytomparis
@artytomparis Жыл бұрын
In a potato this makes a very good battery which is perfectly capable of powering an led for reading.
@allanfahrenhorst-jones6118
@allanfahrenhorst-jones6118 Жыл бұрын
Hey Rob it's just like me. Simple. Great stuff.
@danielbuckman2727
@danielbuckman2727 Жыл бұрын
What we need is a rechargeable super capacitor, made with non-toxic materials. And materials that are cheap and readily available. I'm attempting to put together a project where I can show anybody how to put one together. I'm not a chemist by any stretch of the imagination Plus I'm very short of time and money so this may take some time. These would be useful for our home solar generators. Where size and weight are not important. But lifespan, affordability, and non-toxicity, are important.
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
He actually already had videos on each of these topics already. Have you seen them?
@danielbuckman2727
@danielbuckman2727 Жыл бұрын
@@captainnemo6655 I did not see a video series as I described. I found the aluminum passivation video intriguing. However after investing time and money into doing it I found expensive hard to come by ingredients were left out of the video.
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Rob! These ideas can save you in a pinch... A question for you and an idea for the store, can you put together an Emergency survival Battery kit for sale? A lot of outdoors stores and survival stores do not have ANY of this stuff required to make simple primitive primary batteries in a survival situation. Like for my purposes a kit would be just the wires, the carbon and zinc mesh, the salty iodine and a foldable pouch or maybe all that stuff plus something like a few rods of carbon and zinc plus some hollow sections of pipe for other battery types like earth and mud batteries with a simple diagram on how to stick em together. This would be the perfect emergency battery survival kit for the outdoors types like me. A ready to go pouch ready to go just in case anything happens. For home emergency kits it would be an awesome addition to have too. Just a thought, seeing as how places like in California there will be a mega flood and natural disasters are getting more and more brutal elsewhere on the world. THANK YOU ROB AND LUKE!!
@JehuMcSpooran
@JehuMcSpooran Жыл бұрын
There was a paper based one he made a little while ago. Wet the paper and off you go.
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
@@JehuMcSpooran Hydroelectric Paper Fuel Cells... Yes!!!! I am aware of these... And their full potential is in AEROponic systems, that folks have not tapped into yet.... But I am glad you see what I mean? A Hydroelectric Fuel Cell kit would not take up much space in an emergency kit either! Another good idea.
@Panzersoldat
@Panzersoldat Жыл бұрын
Iron-air batteries are what have me excited. Any chance you can show me how to make one? ;)
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
sure
@BleachedWheat
@BleachedWheat 7 ай бұрын
I have an idea. A self lit lamp. A bright, efficient led lightbulb, on a tall stand, that is itself a large zamboni pile. If i could make one thats like 4 or 5 inches wide and 5 or 6 feet tall, how long could it power a normal household led bulb? Then I remembered the bagdad battery used for ancient electroplating, and remembered the theory that one 6ft tall couldve produced like 50 volts.
@Allan-mf1he
@Allan-mf1he Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@DestianLight
@DestianLight Жыл бұрын
Perfect battery we will need during the great reset
@johnlewisbrooks
@johnlewisbrooks 2 ай бұрын
Making a battery is easy! Take Gatorade mix and mix it with water! Run a multimeter through it and it will read a small charge!
@VandalIO
@VandalIO Жыл бұрын
This is magic !
@davidwhitten928
@davidwhitten928 Жыл бұрын
Awesome little battery How big could you scale it up
@BADHIGEEN
@BADHIGEEN Жыл бұрын
a swimming pool?🧐
@mikeconnery4652
@mikeconnery4652 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@MikeGrayM70
@MikeGrayM70 Жыл бұрын
I love these DIY battery ideas. I want to try one made from aluminum and copper. The fellow who I saw made his with a separator made from paper towels with a PVA glue coating on one side. Supposedly, this protects the copper from degradation, though the aluminum eventually has to be replaced. I produce mountains of empty soda cans each year, so any battery I could make with aluminum would be great since I have that material abundantly available.
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
If aluminum is your wish.... Have you ever seen the souvenir penny machines? The ones that flatten and stretch out the coin? Those do something funny by unintended consequence... Each pressed penny is a cathode plate. If you sandwich some cardboard or paper soaked in electrolyte and add a thin sheet of aluminum on top, then make a repeating stack about 9 coins high... You get a copper aluminum coin battery.
@countrygun8416
@countrygun8416 Жыл бұрын
If you can find copper pennies
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
@@countrygun8416 come to las vegas, Nevada... they are still ALL OVER THE PLACE over here.
@GaryMcKinnonUFO
@GaryMcKinnonUFO Жыл бұрын
Does the plastic sleeve stop the copper eroding and how conductive is it in comparison to copper ?
@SteelWolf13
@SteelWolf13 Жыл бұрын
Yes because we all have copper mesh and conductive plastic laying around. Lets try for simpler.
@kbjerke
@kbjerke Жыл бұрын
I clicked on this before I realized it wasn't "18650" battery. LOL!
@hendrikcoetzer7234
@hendrikcoetzer7234 Жыл бұрын
Hi this might make a nice flow battery.
@maddhatter3564
@maddhatter3564 10 ай бұрын
Ah yes the 55 gallon drum battery with only a coil of coper tubing as anode AND cathode. one of my favorite vids to hate on. lol
@l0I0I0I0
@l0I0I0I0 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! How long will it last? 1 year, 20 years?
@TrueSighted
@TrueSighted Жыл бұрын
What kind of plastic are you lining the copper mesh with?
@magabesse
@magabesse Жыл бұрын
Velostat, also known as Linqstat
@Mr.Unacceptable
@Mr.Unacceptable Жыл бұрын
Stuck in the woods with a dead phone. What could you build a temporary battery from? You can always make several to up the current. Urine and 2 different metals? Plane crash. What scrap could you find to build a battery out of? What type of things camping that you might have to make a battery? Food and metals from pots or frame packs. wild berries acidic enough?
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 Жыл бұрын
Wood ash can be used for its significant amount of potasium oxide that when mixed with water will make potasium hydroxide. Then if you can use nickle and iron for a 1.2v Edison battery probably have to charge it, but they are known to be tolerant of overcharging. Iron is the negative plate and nickle is the positive plate. At 1.2v per cell, 5 cells in serries should give you a voltage of 6 volts to charge your cellphone.
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
See what I mean? The market for Emergency Survival Batteries like the ones Rob knows how to make is HUGE and unfulfilled.
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Les Strauss from Survivor Man teamed up with Rob(or Luke) and did a series on energy generation out in survival situations? That would be sooo cool!
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 Жыл бұрын
One might try a vinegar battery with galvanized nailes and copper. One can make wood vinegar by the destructive distillation of wood while making charcoal.
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 Жыл бұрын
One can make an aluminum air batery with charcoal and a little salt water.
@ancapftw9113
@ancapftw9113 Жыл бұрын
This is pretty much just a variation of the zinc bromide battery, as iodine is another halide. Higher voltage, though, and iodine seems safer than bromine.
@shinjisan2015
@shinjisan2015 Жыл бұрын
Yes totally agree here. The risk of a little iodine staining is far less a problem than bromine poisoning. :)
@CLOCK-WORK
@CLOCK-WORK 11 ай бұрын
You can make a rechargeable one all you need it Iron mesh some pincle lead or grafight paper and tinfoil and saltwater with baking soda or powder but it works best with powder
@HeatherNaturaly
@HeatherNaturaly Жыл бұрын
Question for you, Rob. Could you fill a plastic(or other material like ceramic) water tank with that solution and make a HUGE rechargeable battery? If yes, what sort of power do you think it might be capable of producing?
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
He actually already did a video talking about this and battery densities vs how much you can get out of a huge one. It's a prior video on easy batteries.
@12thsonofisrael
@12thsonofisrael Жыл бұрын
Great question!
@12thsonofisrael
@12thsonofisrael Жыл бұрын
@@captainnemo6655 Thank you 🕊️
@countrygun8416
@countrygun8416 Жыл бұрын
This is a simple cell. It will only produce 2 volts , no matter how large.
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
@@countrygun8416 Rob does have a video specific on making huge rechargable batteries... Did you see those videos?
@8ank3r
@8ank3r Жыл бұрын
Love these videos. What is the energy density/mah etc. ?
@thequixotryworkshop2424
@thequixotryworkshop2424 Жыл бұрын
Super cool! Thanks for sharing this Robert. Two questions I have . What is the conducive plastic do? Is it important or can you just use copper. And also how scalable is this? ( Can one make a large enough battery this way that can power a backup power system of 24V 100a/h) What do you think?
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
it protects the copper from iodine corrosion mate - and yeah it is scalable
@vitovitale8325
@vitovitale8325 7 ай бұрын
if I am following you, some thing I could build where I can build it to what I need, that what I am also interested, I just reading through the comments looking for info, ideas anything Thanx🙏☺️🖖
@dougpine4746
@dougpine4746 Жыл бұрын
Simple more often then not gets over looked because its not flashy or sexy but even a Tesla power wall is just a bunch of little batteries in box that costs a pretty penny.
@veiloflight
@veiloflight Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many charge / discharge cycles are possible?
@kungpowchickenwing
@kungpowchickenwing Жыл бұрын
I would love to see what would happen if you strung all of those simple batteries together, say perhaps 20 of them together and then see if you can drive something substantial
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
yeah you could - go for it
@rundata
@rundata Жыл бұрын
Ahh yes I'll just grab my copper mesh, conductive plastic granules, iodine and zinc out the cupboard lol
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
You have these already. Table salt with iodine, spare change coins and paper towels if you don't have high tech plastic mesh from garlic bags and such
@toml.8210
@toml.8210 Жыл бұрын
You can get some Zoinc from the casing of a throw-away AA alkaline battery.
@stewartrv
@stewartrv Жыл бұрын
Very nice! What is the reason/purpose of the plastic mesh over the copper?
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
It acts as a separator for the electrolyte.
@tradingcardboss
@tradingcardboss Жыл бұрын
I’m sure I made a battery out of a lemon 🍋 as a kid
@Badgii
@Badgii Жыл бұрын
Might be not that easy to source pure iodine. You can make it even easier if you use just some iodine povidon based desinfection (for example betadine, I tried with Czech one called "Jodisol"). A bit less effective in the sense of power, but much more easier in the sense of sourcing it. And now.. you might start to think about improvements.. like.. e.g. boil some excessive alcohol or water from the desinfection before using in the battery.
@DrDirigible
@DrDirigible Жыл бұрын
What was the concentration of the iodine which you used?
@alikanjo7962
@alikanjo7962 2 ай бұрын
تحياتي الحارة
@MegaCyrik
@MegaCyrik Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Thank you. Could you make a more detailed one that we can use, maybe with a bit more DIY work too to improve performance? What would be, say, possible with a 5,10 or 20L bucket, could you hit a 12-13Volt which would be useful for more people to use with common available lights and fans. And aH.. how much would a 10L bucket give? Can you make a 12v 100aH battery in a bucket? Your experiment is very informative but at the same time, i didnt learn anything as there was not test or measuring. :)
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
mate there is no more detail needed - just make a few and link them up in series - bingo. And there was no need for test or measure I just copied what was in the research - if you want ore detail - have a read at google scholar
@MrFmiller
@MrFmiller Жыл бұрын
Ahh, back to batteries, my original passion.
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
awesome
@suatkaleli5075
@suatkaleli5075 Жыл бұрын
hi in the car batteries i think there are pb plates so negative an positive poles both have the pb core but cover materials over the pb plates are different if this hypothesis is correct what material are being used as a coverage material on positive and negative plates for the car batteries
@bamspay
@bamspay Жыл бұрын
You say super easy to make but I didn't see you explain the conductive plastic. Is it needed? Where do we it from?
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
All good questions... To which he already made videos on. Did you see those other videos?
@WileHeCoyote
@WileHeCoyote Жыл бұрын
Very cool! If an emptied out 12v battery case was rebuild with this chemistry, is the energy density close to lead acid by relative volume? It's obviously going to be much lighter than lead wich is neat!
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 Жыл бұрын
Zink has a strong tendency to form dendrites that are easilly disturbed and may break off. So if you charge it and the dendrites break off. The energy put into playing the zink that falls off is lost and unavailable to you. You might like to watch a few youtube channels on zink iodide. electrolysis.
@JJFX-
@JJFX- Жыл бұрын
@@kreynolds1123 You seem to have some knowledge about this but the long term dendrite issue isn't really answering the questions you're replying to. Or perhaps it is and you care to elaborate?
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 Жыл бұрын
@@JJFX- during charging, it takes energy to plate the zink. If the fragile zing dendrites breaks it's no longer conducts electricity and the energy stored in the plated zink that's no longer part of the circuit becomes unavailable. It will eventually mix with the iodine again which could be replated, so the battery could be recharged many times. But I doubt the usefulness of trying to replace automotive lead acid batteries given the fragility. Maybe a gell electrolyte might work better.
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 Жыл бұрын
@@JJFX- for example, an all liquid molten salt battery. Its made with liquid metal sodium and zink electrodes and a molten salt electrolyte. The electrodes being molten dont suffer dendrites.
@JJFX-
@JJFX- Жыл бұрын
@@kreynolds1123 That makes sense, thanks for the explanation. I think there's simply a misinterpretation of the original question asking about energy density differences, not the feasibility of replacing lead-acid technology with this. To put it simply... assuming optimum performance is achieved and degradation isn't a factor, would this chemistry even be a potential benefit over lead-acid (aside from weight) in the same package?
@stephendelaney5766
@stephendelaney5766 4 ай бұрын
If you filled a domestic oil tank up with this fluid and modified accordingly, using solar panels on the top of the tank for recharging, what would be the end result of this? power a house?
@alexford3523
@alexford3523 Жыл бұрын
can i use stranded copper wire(hammered falt?) out of a cable rather than mesh? i have to make this out of trash. an i have that on hand
@manwithsomeplans
@manwithsomeplans 4 ай бұрын
👏 iron flow chemistry next pleeeease sir 🧐📝
@jasonking3629
@jasonking3629 Жыл бұрын
Does the container have to be glass? Is the reaction exothermic?
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 Жыл бұрын
1st no, 2nd yes.
@malcolmwright7440
@malcolmwright7440 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you could use a copper pipe, with a zinc rod inside it ? you can get 300mm zinc rods on ebay quite cheap. ps, also some plumbers purchase bulk large magnesium sacrificial anodes for the larger water tanks and just cut the lower portion off to fit them in smaller tanks, so you might find these lower section of sacrificial anodes (minus the screw holder) available as scrap at a low cost. I also wander if you made a screw thread lifting/extracting mechanism; via an Arduino, to halt the reaction and/or reduce the current and controlling the charging by partially removing the zinc rods to produce only a specific current that you are needing, e.g feeding another battery or super capacitor bank to run power
@rl3898
@rl3898 Жыл бұрын
@@malcolmwright7440 Magnesium isn't zinc !
@malcolmwright7440
@malcolmwright7440 Жыл бұрын
@@rl3898 Yes, thanks you are correct, I edited my original post where I muxed ip boat and hot water sacrificial anodes. I left the reference to hot water magnesium anodes in case someone found it a useful source of magnesium. Zinc rods are cheaply avail on eBay etc.
@jesusistheopendoor
@jesusistheopendoor 2 ай бұрын
tell us about the plastic sheath? what is it's purpose and what kind of plastic?
@randomhuman1965
@randomhuman1965 Жыл бұрын
There's a great tictac box supercap vid on YT
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
yes there is
@Xero1of1
@Xero1of1 Жыл бұрын
What if you created a number of 'spines' of zinc facing downwards into a fish tank, a bunch of copper 'spines' coming up off of the bottom of the tank, fill it with water, iodine and potassium iodide, and then made it so the zinc spines could be raised and lowered into the tank? Would you get higher voltage and more amps or would the voltage stay the same just with increased amperage? Is it 1.2V per piece of zinc? Maybe use solid wires for the spines? Make 'em easy to replace as they corrode out?
@mememan2344
@mememan2344 Жыл бұрын
I believe the voltage is always going to be 1.2 per cell, as the voltage difference is directly related to the metals fixed position relative to each other on the galvanic table.
@simona625
@simona625 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Don't know if anyone has already asked, but why the cover over the copper ?
@austinjohnson4890
@austinjohnson4890 Жыл бұрын
HOLY SMOKES
@TatyanaValdaBelindaHill
@TatyanaValdaBelindaHill Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the videos.🙂I had a look at your books via the lnk in your description. Before I buy... are they meant as the step-by-step guide for the projects in your videos like this one?... In pretty much all of your videos you go too fast for me to understand certain points of how/what you are doing - as an ordinary (yet fairly handy) person. Don't mind paying for information(s) just unclear what is offered.
@ChandaBwalya-iz9mj
@ChandaBwalya-iz9mj Жыл бұрын
Can I use sulphuric acid instead of iodine and zinc
@gingernutpreacher
@gingernutpreacher Жыл бұрын
Can you do a vid on making batteries out of drink cans steel and aluminium I know they have paint and lacker on the in side which needs to be removed
@magnuswootton6181
@magnuswootton6181 5 ай бұрын
so, given a short a battery only puts out a limited current, a capacitor puts out all of its current, so it needs a resistor.
@maryhinge128
@maryhinge128 Жыл бұрын
Zinc-tastic!
@dav1dbone
@dav1dbone Жыл бұрын
Might be crazy simple, where do we get a bottle of iodine from though? Not being a killjoy, positively the opposite, but the last time I saw a bottle was in high school chemistry, and seriously, just looked on ebay, nothing...... Rob, any help?
@rockjockchick
@rockjockchick Жыл бұрын
You can buy little ones at Smith’s and stuff, but the gov is making it really hard to get in any decent quantities because people are using it to make the street drug meth.
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
Iodine containing salt would do just as well for an electrolyte mix... Iodine salt is still EVERYWHERE... Can't get salt in your area? No problem. Iodine grows on sea weed. Get enough seaweed and you can refine it to pure iodine by burning away the seaweed portion.
@michaelcorbidge7914
@michaelcorbidge7914 Жыл бұрын
Depends where you reside on the planet . Primenon specialist supplies for "chemicals" are pottery/ceramics craft suppliies, then pool and fertiliser suppliers next . For stuff you can't get via this route , then specialist supplies might have to be the option but never cheap . Some of us may have souvenired samples from our school n university days . Off course you'll know that you gotta check ebay and others regularly till stuff comes up .
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelcorbidge7914 did you know you can harvest you own iodide from seaweed?
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelcorbidge7914 did you also know Pennies and other bottom of the barrel marks of currency are already mixed with copper and zinc? Just need to expose the surfaces of these.
@offgridwanabe
@offgridwanabe Жыл бұрын
easier than the concrete battery
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
Different battery. This one is meant for when you are stuck in a survival situation... Concrete battery? That's for when the danger has passed
@yousaftehseen2503
@yousaftehseen2503 10 ай бұрын
Can we use iodine salt water?
@TrashcanScienceStuff
@TrashcanScienceStuff 6 ай бұрын
would salt and water or sodium hydroxide work better ?
@jasonking3629
@jasonking3629 Жыл бұрын
Why do put the plastic on the copper mesh electrode?
@hommerdalor6301
@hommerdalor6301 Жыл бұрын
Hello. It’s not just plastic, it’s conductive plastic, wich provides a big area, the copper is good conductor of electricity, Rob showed in previous videos how to make it, I suggest you watch his 1600 previous videos, you will know everything. :-)
@Patrick-jj5nh
@Patrick-jj5nh 5 ай бұрын
How would one go about calculating this battery's watt hours, theoretically?
@clivefrancis3546
@clivefrancis3546 Жыл бұрын
What about a silicate salt battery tutorial?
@sjhall2009
@sjhall2009 Жыл бұрын
Who has these materials laying around?
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
I do and you do too
@kevinroberts781
@kevinroberts781 Жыл бұрын
How about a 55 gallon drum?
@TinyGiantLifeStyle
@TinyGiantLifeStyle Жыл бұрын
Amp hours per square meter of surface?
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
just look at google scholar!
@paranoidgenius9164
@paranoidgenius9164 Жыл бұрын
Measure how much electric output with a multimeter, then use a battery voltage regulator (i.e. salvage from a lithium battery by snipping the nickel connections)so you don't fry the circuitry of the device you are powering or charging. Can anyone tell me a reading of the raw lithium battery capacity when fully charged? Take a reading after removing the battery power limiter circuitry.
@philchurch927
@philchurch927 Жыл бұрын
what is conductive plastic?
@jett0237
@jett0237 Жыл бұрын
what about battery mde from stuff we actually have. dirt ,a bucket ,rusty nail, a nickel,and a blatter of piss lol
@user-zi8lm9km3g
@user-zi8lm9km3g 6 ай бұрын
Rob,Hope you are well. I need you to get in touch with me. I’ve made perpetual motion
@ralphsammis7330
@ralphsammis7330 Жыл бұрын
That’s a new one “conductive plastic”?
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
oh ok
@PACstove
@PACstove Жыл бұрын
So, lets scale this up to a 50 gal plastic barrel, or a swimming pool.
@garygranato9164
@garygranato9164 Жыл бұрын
isnt it more of a generator considering you didnt have to charge it up. ?
@rockjockchick
@rockjockchick Жыл бұрын
Yes like the D or AA batteries you buy at the store.
@ricodegallo3060
@ricodegallo3060 Жыл бұрын
👍🏽
@kennethjessop6073
@kennethjessop6073 Жыл бұрын
What is the purpose of the plastic layer?
@j.m.hughes1810
@j.m.hughes1810 Жыл бұрын
I would like to know what type of plastic it is, and also what purpose it serves.
@toml.8210
@toml.8210 Жыл бұрын
After 30 minutes, the water is safe to drink! Because of the iodine. Ha ha... ;)
@stanTrX
@stanTrX Жыл бұрын
What is iodine?
@Juze81
@Juze81 Жыл бұрын
Copper mesh with plastic fabric wrapped around it. You add water and zinc and iodine? It would be great if you would always add to the comment thread what you use and in what ratio. British English is not always open to everyone. Really hard to read what is meant sometimes. With all due respect, different substances can have a similar name. If you tell what and how, many home chemists will be saved from bad consequences. This is just my five cents of thoughts.
@captainnemo6655
@captainnemo6655 Жыл бұрын
I will refund you 3 of those cents... He has already done so in other videos... Did you see those?
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 16 күн бұрын
sizes? numbers, volts, amps..?
@TheCrakkle
@TheCrakkle Жыл бұрын
What current ?
@ThinkingandTinkering
@ThinkingandTinkering Жыл бұрын
you are just being shown an understood chemistry - have read at google scholar
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