17hmr vs 22mag - CLAY BLOCKS!!!

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@WHOTEEWHO 3 жыл бұрын

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@denzelwoods9492 3 жыл бұрын

Shaved mid video?

@WHOTEEWHO 3 жыл бұрын

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@Ezekiel903 3 жыл бұрын

you should use the 22 mag with 30 gr and 2100fps!!

@jerrywelch1370 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much don't matter which one you like, cuz if you got hit in the ass with either of them your hemorrhoid & constipation problems would be GONE...LOL...

@unitedstatesirie7431 3 жыл бұрын

@@WHOTEEWHO I want to buy a Taurus 942M double action .22 Magnum revolver. It is 8 shot cylinder with a 3" inch barrel. What velocity will this Taurus pistol get from it's 3" inch barrel length ?

@wlh227 2 жыл бұрын

You should have only shot each block one time for a fair test. The first shot of the 22 mag had massive expansion and opened up a massive hole. The shots that followed with the 22 mag did not have enough material left in terms of thickness to cause expansion. It takes a few inches or more of material before expansion begins so just a few small holes was the result with no expansion. .

@laughton57 2 жыл бұрын

This - and the two holes that he called exits were both caused by splatter from the last shot. They both appeared at the same instance, The 17 did better than i though it would - but after seeing this, I'll just keep my Marlin 22mag with a 3x9 Leupold. .

@jmonk77 2 жыл бұрын

The 17 HMR was impressive, but WLH is correct, WTW was hitting a bunch of air in the 22 mag subsequent shots. So hard to really draw a conclusion from this test.

@MrLwr4444 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly couldn't really see the effects of one round each that would have been way better

@personanongrata9289 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly right. The first hmr round didn’t seem to exit. The large exit hole was from subsequent rounds, through much thinner material. The first 22mag exited with a large exit “wound” and subsequent rounds went through the same holes for much of their path.

@scenicdriveways6708 Жыл бұрын

I agree. Shoot each block one time and then compare them.

@highplainsdrifter9631 2 жыл бұрын

I've had both and I prefer the 22 Magnum by a landslide. I sold my 17 HMR ten years ago. Still have a couple of 22 Magnum guns, however. This video shows precisely why the 22 Magnum has more power which translates into better lethality. You also have a much better bullet weight selection with a 22 Mag; 30, 34, 40, 45, and 50 grain bullets are available. A 17 HMR has 17 and 20 grainers. Penetration is what I like and the 22 Magnum delivers for the rimfires. The first shot from each cartridge speaks volumes.

@texaspatriot9159 7 ай бұрын

15.5 is another weight for the 17hmr

@Ringele5574 2 жыл бұрын

I had this same question yesterday so I did a little research. What I found was that the 22 mag will transfer more energy to the target throughout its effective range than the 17 hmr. The hmr is going a lot faster, but it just can't make up for the shear mass of the 22 mag.

@diowk 2 жыл бұрын

The sheer mass of the 40 grain .22 projectile? 😂

@rameynoodles152 2 жыл бұрын

@@diowk Well, 17gr vs 40gr... yeah, that's a big difference.

@highplainsdrifter9631 2 жыл бұрын

@@diowk you can even get a 50 grain hollow point from Federal for the 22 WMR. Yes, the 22 WMR with heavy bullets has a lot more mass than a 17 cal 17 grain bullet.

@BenMJay Жыл бұрын

Wouldnt a regular .22 basically do the same thing?

@Ringele5574 Жыл бұрын

@@BenMJay a .22LR is going slower. If you look at ballistic charts you can see that a lighter but faster projectile can transfer more energy as speed increases.

@dannyshep1756 Жыл бұрын

The 17HMR looked like more damage, but it took two shots to pass through the clay. The .22 mag passed through the first shot and created such a large cavity most the follow up shots never touched the clay block. Great video

@JoseCarlos-xz3bz Жыл бұрын

Your observation is correct. The first shot of 22 was very blunt. In the first shot, he removed the entire barrier of resistance from the clay, already leaving the place with little resistance to impact.

@BB-1990 Жыл бұрын

@@marktheo1563 Yeah, that was a chunk of clay flying off the front genius, same video.

@917johnnyv Жыл бұрын

You did t see fist size hole in back one.17

@ultradiabetic Жыл бұрын

You don’t want a round passing through and through, u want it to do max damage internally plus then it can’t exit and hit something ur not meant too 😉

@ronhux1742 Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I saw

@kst357 3 жыл бұрын

It looked like the 22 mag blew the core out of the top of the block on the first shot so there was less mass for the next few rounds to pass through. I think the 22 won this one.

@christopherwinter6911 3 жыл бұрын

DITTO THAT! As was said Above, I would like to have this done again. take 1 shot at a time on each and then go check the blocks. when you shot the 22win, you hit the same place 3x.

@demagescod9657 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, 22 mag absolutely did more damage on first round

@williamray5467 2 жыл бұрын

More penetration damage on the 22 mag but more outer explosion damage with the 17 hmr appeared to me.

@sportsboyjon 2 жыл бұрын

@@williamray5467 thats the point dude. It took TWO shots to get that hole on the 17hmr. The first shot made a dent. And left just enough that the 2nd ine would really blow up. But the 22mag punched through on the first AND blew out the top. Effectively making the remaining 4 hit almost nothing

@williamray5467 2 жыл бұрын

No I didn't miss any point, I would rather sink a 17 hmr ballistic tip.I'm a big chest within 100 yards but a .22mag beyond 100 yards. I know for a fact what 17 hmr will do in that distance.

@benjaminburger7214 3 жыл бұрын

Looking at the slow mo the 22 Mag penetrated the block of clay on the first shot. Most of the subsequent shots went through that same hole that the first shot had created. I'm giving it to the 22 Mag. Accuracy and penetration. I would suggest to do another similar test on two blocks of clay and firing a single shot each with each of the two caliber. Thank for a cool video though

@Rafe0522 2 жыл бұрын

Yes 👍

@rob6850 2 жыл бұрын

Yeaaah that 22 mag was awesome.

@Magnum_Express 2 жыл бұрын

as an admittedly biased 17hmr fan, im mixed on the results. for their intended purposes, i think the 17hmr won...hear me out...they are both made for shooting rabbits and squirrels groundhogs and maybe coyotes.. so with that in mind, how much penetration do you need on a target thats not even as wide as your palm? the 17 just dumps its energy so amazingly..That said, in the case of something bigger like a coyote or bobcat, i could see the 22 mags appeal of being able to penetrate ribs and the thickness of 10 inches of a coyote chest. but if you were bumping up into using these for wild hogs or in worst case scenerio, an emergency that required you to put down a livestock like a cow or sheep, id take the 22 mag all day. thats coming from a guy who sold all his 22 rifles after buying a 17hmr.

@Zircon10 Жыл бұрын

.22WMR won that hands down. First shot penetrated all the way. 17 HMR couldn’t muster full penetration on the first shot. When you’re shooting varmints, it’s only that first shot that matters as it is highly unlikely that you’ll get a second shot.

@psyekl Жыл бұрын

The comments seem to agree with what I saw: The .22 mag won by doing the most damage on the first round with a full pass-through. The velocity of the .17HMR is nice, but it lacks the hitting power.

@OdinX316 10 ай бұрын

AND it lifted a mass from the center vertically as well, 22 mag won!

@psyekl 10 ай бұрын

@@OdinX316 I recently came into possession of a .17HMR. I definitely see its value for those long-range precision shots, but for "oomph" and takedown of anything larger than the smaller of varmints the .22LR definitely looks to be the winner.

@mikehobbs7421 Жыл бұрын

I liked the slow mo shots from behind! Cheers from Canada eh 🍻🇨🇦🤘

@albertollorca5249 2 жыл бұрын

The 22 mag won hands down. Next time take a single shot with each and compare, had you done that you'd seen the .17 failed to penetrate while the .22 mag went clean through leaving a large cavity behind.

@humblehunk9022 2 жыл бұрын

But thats the point of the 17hmr... its a frangilble round - it's not meant to pass through soft targets. It dumps everything into what it hits. The 22mag made a nice sized hole for sure, but it passed through meaning less efficient energy transfer.

@t3265 2 жыл бұрын

Yea we nees a re do on this video

@rameynoodles152 2 жыл бұрын

@@humblehunk9022 I think efficiency of energy transfer depends more on what type of bullet you use, and less on the round type itself. FMJ, JSP, JHP all have vastly different energy transfer and penetration within the same cartridge category type. And then, on top of that, a smaller/slower bullet may give a more efficient energy transfer, and still transfer less total energy than a faster/larger bullet with less efficient transfer.

@humblehunk9022 2 жыл бұрын

@@rameynoodles152 I 100% agree with you. However, the 17hmr is only available as a hollow point (some have polymer tips to aid with expansion) and is exclusively a frangible bullet. 22MAG has some variety, but none of the expand quite like the 17hmr. With larger calibers, I agree, there are definitely more factors that influence energy transfer.

@SinnerSince1962 Жыл бұрын

@@humblehunk9022 I agree with you.

@aphillips229 3 жыл бұрын

This is confirmation that I never want to get shot with ANY caliber.

@WHOTEEWHO 3 жыл бұрын

Yup

@elijahaitaok8624 3 жыл бұрын

I think we all know someone who says .22lr isn’t powerful enough to kill someone, one of the first things my dad told me was that it can kill a caribou

@watchingmaybecomment2664 3 жыл бұрын

@@elijahaitaok8624 You can also kill a deer I was told I don’t know how are used his legs and you can use in Ohio for a long time. But now you can use a pistol 38 special is the lowest caliber you can use and a rifle as well but it’s got to be a pistol caliber round a straight casing

@Dirtyharry70585 3 жыл бұрын

@@watchingmaybecomment2664 The 'straight' casing, I use a 45LC out of a level action, brother in law uses a 44 mag, and my buddy uses a 45/70, for Ohio deer. Muzzle time its a 50 cal with 3 perex pellets.

@rocksandoil2241 3 жыл бұрын

I can promise you that a .22 LR hurts...I was shot in the hand (my own stupidity) and it do make you said, "Gee, I wish I hadn't done that." a sort of loose translation

@kj7ym 8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this demo. This shows the incredible value of your slow mo cameras for post review. Anyone could have been misled by the initial walk up. Your videos are just invaluable ,thank you and keep up the good work!😂

@WHOTEEWHO 8 ай бұрын

Appreciate you watching

@ihatenewyork Жыл бұрын

Just picked up a RAR in 22mag and I love it. Super accurate and that 22mag shoots like a dream

@scottg9208 3 жыл бұрын

The only valid shot for comparison purposes was the first one from each rifle. The following 4 shots from each rifle do not tell anything about penetration or performance because the clay is already shot and compromised. The 22 Mag clearly had more penetration on the first shot as compared to the 17 HMR. I have shot a 22 Mag for many years using the Winchester 40 gr HP and would take it every time over the 17 HMR. Good job on the video, especially showing the back of the clay block where the true penetration results on that first shot could clearly be seen!

@Ed.T 2 жыл бұрын

... but we have no idea what the first-shot inside of the HMR looked like. As a one-time hunter with the HMR, I can tell you that it turns a lot of meat into pulp.

@judgestacker9472 2 жыл бұрын

@@Ed.T and that's great for small game. But it wouldn't hit the organs of larger game. The 17 dumped all of its energy very quickly in the first couple inches. The 22 actually had penitration but a narrower wound cavity. Guess it all comes down to what you are hunting.

@hossman8499 2 жыл бұрын

He's shooting polymer tip 17hmr and hollow point 22. Those polymer tips literally explode inside the target. I had to stop using them on squirrels because i was literally blowing their heads clean off. A 22 mag will never do that.

@chrispor926 2 жыл бұрын

Lol We know what the first 17 shot looks like... it was the exit wound that was the size of his fist. TNT 20 grain was a good weight.

@traog 2 жыл бұрын

@@chrispor926 the first shot didn't have an exit wound, it was the 2nd shot that went through.

@slickdazzler7330 3 жыл бұрын

I like them both. 22 mag is my favorite though.

@leovang3425 3 жыл бұрын

New cartridge, .17 magnum

@calvinborer6572 Жыл бұрын

As many have stated .22 mag seemed to win this one, I feel you should do this test again, 1 at 50 yards and 1 at a hundred and only shoot a single round rather than a whole magazine. Thanks for the videos though we enjoy them!

@davidwhite5858 2 жыл бұрын

Great video WHO-TEE. Greetings from Lincoln, NE. HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

@WHOTEEWHO 2 жыл бұрын

GO BIG RED

@davidwhite5858 2 жыл бұрын

👍

@cjsteadman6217 3 жыл бұрын

It took all five rounds of the 17 HMR to do the damage to the first block. The 22WMR blew out the back of the 2nd block on the first round, and there wasn't anything left for the next three rounds to hit. Further damage was achieved on the fifth round because you stopped shooting through the first hole. 22WMR for the win as most effective. 17HMR for the most explody bits.

@ravenshield7823 3 жыл бұрын

The 22 WMR blew the roof off too in the first shot. Should have weighed the blocks after one shot. Not telling you what to do, just would have been an interesting stat.

@jimblanchard3971 Жыл бұрын

The second shot of the 17 HMR was cool. Love your videos!

@WHOTEEWHO Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Jim

@ForFucksSake57591 Жыл бұрын

Damn! I’m impressed with the 22 mag. I just bought an a17… hopefully I dont regret it

@1crazynordlander 2 жыл бұрын

I think you need to make your decision based on the first shot for each caliber in your slo-mo camera angle. The 22 mag has complete penetration on the first shot where the 17 doesn't. The 17 second shot opened the clay block up opposed to the 22 mag didn't have much to penetrate on the second shot because it had been opened up by the first shot. I was impressed by the 22 mag.

@gwane1uno 3 жыл бұрын

The 22mag took more mass off the clay block, on its first try.

@silverslinger4504 Жыл бұрын

I love these clay block shooting videos!!!!

@gscop1683 2 жыл бұрын

I think the 22 mag was the better based on slo-mo first shots. Both are great varmit rounds ! Thanks !

@notsosilentmajority1 3 жыл бұрын

The .22 mag hit harder and went through the block on the first shot, the 17 HMR did not go through on the first shot. The thing was that you shot too well and put most of the .22 mag rounds sort of through the initial hole. We didn't get an opportunity to see what kind of damage the .22 mag would have done if it had different parts of the block, the way the 17 HMR did.

@markhoyt8643 3 жыл бұрын

The 17 shot all over the place. 22 mag. Took and pulled out the center .so I agree with you.

@notsosilentmajority1 3 жыл бұрын

@@markhoyt8643 👍🏼

@kearneydillon4803 3 жыл бұрын

I dont need to type anything. You said all I was going to!!

@notsosilentmajority1 3 жыл бұрын

@@kearneydillon4803 🙏🏼

@ShelliesMan 3 жыл бұрын

You are absolutely correct. I had the very same observations.

@Clawson_customs 3 жыл бұрын

The 22mag went thru in one shot the 17 took two shots to get thru im not a fan of them two calibers but I would say 22 mag won he should have done a single shot test

@EstorilEm 3 жыл бұрын

Eh out on a farm the 17 is basically a laser beam, flat as hell and perfect for anything you’d shoot a Rimfire at.

@bobmcconnell4640 3 жыл бұрын

@@EstorilEm ll

@lnk3503 3 жыл бұрын

I've had both, prefer the 22mag. It's also cheaper.

@FluxAscender 3 жыл бұрын

The .17 blew a hole straight through on the first shot, and the second round opened out what was left of hte top. The .22 blew a big hole through, also, but it also lifted the top clean off on the first round. .22WMR did a HELL of a lot bigger damage on the first round.

@plnbdy 3 жыл бұрын

Light and fast is always going to show strong in clay too... penetration test I bet would go to the 22. 17 is going to be great too though on anything up to big ground hog size...

@jamesmoore768 Жыл бұрын

I personally am partial to the 22magnum! They are very deadly rounds hunting! Even in taking deer size game with proper shot placement!

@JontyBlue67 Жыл бұрын

From my view of each first shot, the 22mag won hands down. From a practical view, it depends on conditions such as wind, distance, the velocity that the target is moving at. Longer distance with wind on a fox, I would go 17hmr; closer distance with calm conditions and a slightly larger animal, I would go 22mag; if the animal was something like a rabbit and I wanted to be able to eat it, I would go 22LR. Thanks for the video!

@zeppafloyd 3 жыл бұрын

The slow mo of the 2nd 17HMR round looked like the bullet holes in the T1000 from Terminator 2. Fantastic!

@freezinweasle1 3 жыл бұрын

I was really impressed with them both. The 22mag actually did more than I thought it would.

@kevinkent6184 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant shooting cheers mate

@RiverSmallmouthAdventures Жыл бұрын

.17HMR is impressive! Thanks for the comparison video!

@jeffbenfer3717 2 жыл бұрын

I would've liked to see the comparison with the 30 grain polymer tip bullets the 22 mag is offered in. The velocity of the 22 mag polymer is only 350 fps slower than the 2550 fps of the 17 hmr. Based on my own experience, when saw how well the 30 grain polymer shot out of both of my 22 mag rifles, and how devastating they were on varmints. I ended gifting my 17 hmr rifle to my son.

@MrJoyTime 3 жыл бұрын

The 22 .magnum won, it did the most damage on the first shot and more accurate, the next 4 shot's was going more through the first shot, the 22 mag was the bad boy.

@williamray5467 2 жыл бұрын

The 22 mag surely appeared to do more damage on the first shots of both but if a camera would have been able to be setup to actually inside carnage at that distance the 17 hmr won I bet. But the 22 mag no doubt has better penetration while 17 hmr caused more mass damage. Further distance on larger game or clay blocks the 22 mag is the way.

@brenttate9299 2 жыл бұрын

And maybe the 22 mag was more accurate only because it had a laser

@williamray5467 2 жыл бұрын

Doubt it, both are likely tack drivers so it's more likely the 17h Mr is not broke in properly or the shooter just wasnt.putting any effort in his shooting. My 17h Mr can hit small eggs at 100 yards but only after proper barrel care, I stopped cleaning the thing just pull a tight dry cloth through it when needed.

@jamessirman6622 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to see you found your razor.

@300mag83 2 жыл бұрын

This was a really fun video!!

@daymonmac6185 3 жыл бұрын

Bang, that 22mag is serious business!

@WHOTEEWHO 3 жыл бұрын

💪💪

@grancito2 3 жыл бұрын

I dropped 2 deer at 100 and 120 yards with a 22 mag, nice to fire, not like the 7.62/51, noise and recoil is not nice.

@Gee-Wizz 3 жыл бұрын

@@grancito2 Yep, got one myself in the past. Not my first choice, but was all i had in my pocket at the time and got the job done no problem.

@raytheguyinthechair2791 3 жыл бұрын

You should see what a 22-250 does. Thing runs at mach 4!

@WHOTEEWHO 3 жыл бұрын

Already filmed 22-250

@scottysowell5565 3 жыл бұрын

Even better the 2nd time around. 22 mag went through the hole a couple of times touching nothing. Pretty accurate.

@WHOTEEWHO 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Scotty

@fredlance2538 2 жыл бұрын

making my comment before I watch , I am thinking the 17 will do more damage, cant wait to see . keep the videos coming I love them .

@John-rw2zf 6 ай бұрын

Very interesting. Fairly equal for most practical purposes. I would take either one of them. They are both nice rifles.

@DavidEKells 3 жыл бұрын

22Mag went threw on the first round, 17 took two reounds to get threw.

@dangookin527 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like the 22 mag has more penetration than the 17. The big crater on the back of the 17 HMR appeared to be created by a first bullet exploding in and not going through the block. The second shot hit the back of the first hole and made an exit crater. The .22 mag made a full length hole which at least two other .22 mag shots went through and made less damage. Bottom line is whats the purpose in what you want. The 17 HMR is a great varmint round & will explode small varmints. the .22 mag definitely has more penetration for bigger varmints. Toss a coin!

@JusticeForSome 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah...☝️ what he said.

@buckfutter99 3 жыл бұрын

I hunt dove to coyote with the fmj 17hmr. My favorite round of all time. Bought it in bulk when I could. Run it through a savage with a can.

@Clawson_customs 3 жыл бұрын

He should have done a single shot test

@chrislacosse2560 3 жыл бұрын

@@buckfutter99 I love my 917V also

@joecitizen6046 3 жыл бұрын

What I like most about the 17hmr is its accuracy past about 125 to 150 yards. I can smack milk jugs, rock chucks, and coyote at 200 all day long. My old 22mags petered out after about 125.

@anthonyharper8161 6 ай бұрын

Both dangerous. I wouldn't like to get hit with any of them. Great video. Appreciate it.

@afroliciouspresents3603 2 жыл бұрын

The first shot for each calibre was the only one of importance, in terms of potential effect on game. Both calibres did a great job, would be used on the same species of animal and which one to use will partially depend on the type of ground hunted. If you have large, open ground, with sufficient backstop, the .22WMR going straight through won't be a problem. The 17HMR is a bit safer, as all of its energy went into the target. Of course, backstop is essential, regardless of calibre used. Anyone can miss 🤪

@Gerald-do9yg 5 ай бұрын

All Very good points friend!!

@garywhelansr5602 3 жыл бұрын

I love my 22mag marlin micro groove barrel has always done the job for me. Looks like your going thru the same hole.. Old school always 🇺🇸👍

@joelmcmahan7386 3 жыл бұрын

Like all WTW stuff I can’t wait to see this. Thanks again WTW. God bless you and your family. 👍🇺🇸

@meganstedman9457 2 жыл бұрын

i just gotta say love the smiley face in the clay block

@shihanjulio 2 жыл бұрын

Which bench rest are you using? Awesome video !!!

@russellkeeling9712 2 жыл бұрын

The .17 only passed through the clay on the second shot once the first shot penetrated half way. To me the .22 mag. is much better as a hunting rifle. It would be cool to see a test of wind deflection for both of these.

@daymonmac6185 3 жыл бұрын

Love the clay vids!! My favorites!

@WHOTEEWHO 3 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@deanhoward4128 9 ай бұрын

Awesome video!

@alaskajohn5695 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent demonstration, Personally, I Love the 22-mag, with the hornedy 32-grain plastic tip bullet. Insane accuracy up to 200-yards, flat flat shooting, killed hundreds of ground squirrels with that round, deadly accurate …. Thank You, appreciate your channel…

@TommyboyGTP 3 жыл бұрын

17 had a VMAX bullet which is for varmints. it's designed to rapid expand and blow up as soon as it hits. The 22 with the hollow point is designed to hold together to penetrate.

@chrisanthony7552 3 жыл бұрын

You stoled my answer lol.

@billwhiteathome2080 3 жыл бұрын

I thought hollow points were designed to expand upon impact and NOT over penetrate.

@TommyboyGTP 3 жыл бұрын

@@billwhiteathome2080 Designs can vary. More expansion, less penetration. If expansion is minimal, it goes farther.

@joshrandall3632 3 жыл бұрын

@@billwhiteathome2080 They do start to expand on impact, but they don't expand quite as fast as the V-Max bullets do. So its basically a more controlled expansion, balanced with slightly more penetration, but not nearly as much penetration as a fmj would give.

@tbauer2521 3 жыл бұрын

That's why all the professional hunters in Africa use hollow points......wow

@PittsburghFan4Life13 3 жыл бұрын

would like to have this done again. take 1 shot at a time on each and then go check the blocks. when you shot the 22win, you hit the same place 3x. if diff places was hit on each one the block would have been destroyed alot more. keep up the crazy work bud.

@kitejkoch 3 жыл бұрын

Yes...just shooting the hell out of a block of clay doesn't demonstrate much of anything.

@visamedic 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. One shot per. The mag will win.

@chrislacosse2560 3 жыл бұрын

@@visamedic they are both magnums

@m4qnus 3 жыл бұрын

@@chrislacosse2560 the 22 is a magnum the 17 hmr is not

@chrislacosse2560 3 жыл бұрын

@@m4qnus then why is it called HORNADAY MAGNUM RImfire" HMR"

@dwightemery5694 2 жыл бұрын

Zeroed in a 17 HMR today with a neighbor that has one for him... nice rifle...like your videos... hope you had a good Thanksgiving.

@daviddavid5880 Жыл бұрын

Nice. I'm really torn between 22mag and 17hmr. I'm drooling over the accuracy of the 17, but also *really* like the option of super-quiet subsonic 22. (Yes there is subsonic 22mag) Decisions decisions...

@steveboyd3377 3 жыл бұрын

Both rounds are impressive. I honestly didn't expect to see so much damage from either.

@tpliscon4662 Жыл бұрын

I'm a fan of the .22 mag, always have been. I'm thinking of picking up a .17 HMR just to have one. Thanks for your vid.

@yourdrummer2034 2 жыл бұрын

That Savage .22 is a tack driver! Also the polymer tip and extreme speed of the .17 seem to be the devastation combo..

@tomsikes9064 3 жыл бұрын

So the 17 did lot of energy dump first round. It was the second that punched through. The 22wm punched straight through, first shot. Then the follow ups were all muscle memory of the shooter. I agree, do it again, 1 shot only each caliber.

@billbrasky7540 2 жыл бұрын

I had a similar laser guided training round from a different company in 40 Smith and Wesson for my SWSD40 that also used a cell phone to act as a digital target, but it didn't work (the training round that is), but the idea behind it is really neat, so maybe I'll try to buy another one down the road. Also, the way I learned how to practice trigger squeeze and consistent form with no lasers or anything didn't cost a dime-well, okay, maybe just one dime-when I was in basic training back in the early 2000s right after we invaded Iraq, our drills taught us a pretty neat way to practice by dry fire in the bay by resting in the prone position while balancing a flat laying dime at the end of the barrel, and all you do is dry fire until you can do so without the dime falling off (sounds easier said than done lol). The point was to teach you how to make nice, slow, steady, consistent trigger squeezes, and come range day me and the guys that practiced this in our bay ended up zeroing and qualifying faster and scoring better than those who did not :) I'm certain this is nothing new, and has been something that has been done since the beginning of modern firearms training, but it's a goodin'!

@darrylkoehn9667 2 жыл бұрын

Love them both! I've shot a lot prairie dogs with the.17 HMR out to 256 yards.

@joewhitney4097 Жыл бұрын

Interesting results. Thanks for sharing.

@timcoleman2371 3 жыл бұрын

The first 22 mag blew the top off of that block. There wasn’t that much to hit after that. 17 HMR took two hits to penetrate but made a really cool bugle shaped exit hole. Would’ve been cool to stop and take a look after each of the first two shots on each block

@Shaggy_Campbell 3 жыл бұрын

22 mag went through on the first shot, so I say 22 mag LOL

@jeremystrickland919 Жыл бұрын

Going to a gun show tomorrow this review helped me make my choice

@WHOTEEWHO Жыл бұрын

👍👍💥💥💥

@jayecurry1369 Жыл бұрын

I think they both did well. I think you'd have gotten a better comparison with just one round each. At least a couple of your .22 Mag when through your first hole as I could see little pieces-part flying with each shot. But that .17 HMR did make an impressive crater.

@mlsknnr 3 жыл бұрын

.22 Mag was more consistent shooting to the same spot, while the .17 looked to be all over the place, thus more damage to the block. That is what I saw from the rear camera during the test. It would be great to be able to purchase the laser bullets in other calibers, not everyone shoots a 9mm.

@dhoffman1517 3 жыл бұрын

I started using Hornady 30gr vmax in my 22wmr and I love it. The Vmax would have been a better comparison with the 17 Hmr. 👍👍

@PeterWolfVT 3 жыл бұрын

I second this!!! RERUN WITH 22MAG VMAX speed will be closer and much better comparison!!!

@diegodog20270 3 жыл бұрын

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@brianjanusek4356 Жыл бұрын

I feel they both did very well, just different ways. I’d stick with mag for cost and availability.

@A-zoneJack 2 жыл бұрын

Both are very cool. I'm going to get a 22wmr rifle for sure now. Just more fun than my 22lr's for bench shooting. I want that Savage accuracy.

@jorgen-ingmarcastell2864 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, for second time. I agree with many others, if only compare the first shots, the 22 mag made a bigger hole.

@tintshopnc5552 2 жыл бұрын

22 mag is always my favorite but the crazy thing is how impressive the rimfire are. I didn't think it would do the damage it did

@OnTheRiver66 10 ай бұрын

This is a great video!

@WHOTEEWHO 10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@canonballdookie 2 жыл бұрын

big fan of the .17HMR super accurate and great small game round

@michaellane1661 3 жыл бұрын

That was cool! That 17hmr surprised me bro! Got a lot of boogie on that one! Great video WTW!🤘🏽

@WHOTEEWHO 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Michael!

@mrpibb7781 3 жыл бұрын

I just bought a Savage 93R17 and fell in love with it. Love the 17 HMR.

@magnummesiona72 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info 😍😍😍 looks like the 17 HMR is a lot DEADLIER than the 22 Magnum WMR

@timschutte6924 6 ай бұрын

These are absolutely the 2 best small caliber round made. I have found that the 17 HMR to be used at 2 to 3 hundred meters. It's an extreamly flat shooting round. Beware of sideways WIND though. The 22 Mag is the 22 Mag. No matter which way you go with it. I like them both. But my heart goes out to 22LR & 22 MAG. It's what I grew up on and if your an avid shooter then you will be fine. I want to see some different types of poly stocks and furniture for the 17 HMR. You know, like Bulpup, t6 but stock. Ect. I have a really nice stock for my Ruger 10/22. I'm waiting to buy a Tinny trigger and a much better scope to get my site picture closer. I'm 60 now and my eye site is going south a little. I'm also saving for a nice Surpressor. That I can switch from gun to gun.

@rossevans1774 3 жыл бұрын

The 17 pill seemed to explode on contact(complete fragmentation) expending all its energy in the clay, even contact with the smallest pieces of clay the 17 exploded. The 22 seemed to retain its shape and carry its weight and energy through the block and out the back.

@kodystaley773 Жыл бұрын

That’s what the 17 v-max is supposed to do it’s supposed to hit and blow up but the 22 is a hollow point but they really just go straight through

@goinhot9133 3 жыл бұрын

.17hmr ruger American rifle @ 100yrds. Stacked 4 shots within the diameter of my wedding band. Very accurate gun and cartridge!

@robinbankz507 2 жыл бұрын

.17 mag was excellent. Man, that’s 1st shot .22 mag knocked the roof of the clay. Awesome slo mo 🔥

@johanwhhs1045 2 жыл бұрын

Like the beard man!

@WHOTEEWHO 2 жыл бұрын

Wife does not 😆

@dangustafson2450 3 жыл бұрын

3 of your 22 magnum shot went thru big hole from 1st shot. 22 mag is too accurate. Lol. I enjoy your videos. I love my 22 mag Henry Golden Boy.

@tccurtis2932 3 жыл бұрын

I will take the .22 mag. It went through on the 1st. shot and most of the others went through the same hole.

@LameWolff 2 жыл бұрын

The 17 in one block. Now if you were to put two blocks up, one behind the other, I think you would see more overall damage in the two blocks from the 22mag.

@shadowhawktalks7814 2 жыл бұрын

The second shot of 17hmr really punched a hole!!

@minionkevin6623 3 жыл бұрын

Here in Wyoming I use 17 HMR for coyote hunting. It does a great job entering and destroying everything inside but leaving the fur intact. Great round if you are selling the skin's. Great Video!

@joecitizen6046 3 жыл бұрын

Here in Idaho I take coyote and rock chuck with the 17 HMR. Past about 150 yards, the 17 outshines the 22mag in accuracy, hands down. Each has their place, but I sold off my 22mags once I saw what the 17 could do.

@minionkevin6623 3 жыл бұрын

@@wonderingweirdo7476 What part? I live in Big Horn County.

@RevGunn-jq3cq 3 жыл бұрын

Splody Bits, you just increased my vocabulary. That 17HMR is no joke

@WHOTEEWHO 3 жыл бұрын

Hey rev gunn!

@stevewells5493 3 жыл бұрын

The first one did not go through but the 22 mag blew his head apart! 😁

@baggerbenn 2 жыл бұрын

that .17 slo mo is great!

@Lolololo-zc4mm Жыл бұрын

Merci pour ce test extrêmement intéressant et très instructif 😎👍👏👏👏

@mikewells9988 3 жыл бұрын

“Splody bits” that my kind of technical speak

@tacocin 3 жыл бұрын

These are closely related to jiggly bits.

@billyrippy9204 3 жыл бұрын

@pramagli 3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting video. I'd like to see you do that same experiment with a .22 WMR with a polymer tip like the 30 gr CCI V Max, instead of a jacketed hollow point.

@WHOTEEWHO 3 жыл бұрын

Good idea

@mattrickard3716 2 жыл бұрын

I'd say that this test showed the difference in penetration vs energy transference between the two calibres. It would be good to see how a ballistic tip .22mag would compare to see if that is the variable that is making so much difference.

@raymondharper9935 Жыл бұрын

Ok, I'll buy a 17 ... for the impact. But I'm still lovin' my scoped Marlin 22 mag. Your videos still ROCK ( AIRBORNE )

@Lucidfilth 2 жыл бұрын

A heavier yet slower projectile can carry more energy than a light and fast projectile. Not always the case, but think of it like this. A 40 grain projectile moving at 900 feet per second with give you about 71 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle. And a 10 grain projectile at a 1000 feet per second will give you around 22 ft lbs at the muzzle. Speed isn't always everything.

@brucecoleman7412 3 жыл бұрын

Still good the second time around!

@WHOTEEWHO 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bruce

@jakewall5450 Жыл бұрын

I rlly liked this video, I've been trying to decide between a .22 or a hmr 17. It's a hard decision, but I think I'll go with the 17 hmr leveraction. It's more accurate and it's for further distances. All round both great guns. Thanks for the video!!