190cc 5 Speed Yard Kart Killer is almost RACE READY!! Shifter, Panhard Bar, Fuel Tank + More!

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2 жыл бұрын

The Zongshen 190cc shifter kart is almost race ready! This full suspension yard kart killer should dominate the CarsandCameras Grand Prix, with an 18 horsepower pit bike motor, full diy go kart suspension, and a 5 speed transmission. In today's episode, we build out the gas, brake, and clutch pedals and linkage, the shift linkage, add a rear rack to hold our fuel tank, and install a lanyard bar!
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@jimciancio9005
@jimciancio9005 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, not to rain on anyone's parade, but those master cylinders for handle bars, aren't going to work too well facing vertical, the holes for the fluid to the plunger inside those are at the bottom mounted horizontally, mounting it in a vertical position, you may have fluid at the moment in the plunger, but it's definitely going to pick up some air out in the real world of bumping around and splashing. Your brake fluid pickups need to be at the lowest point to prevent air cavitation in the cylinder. So a proper horizontal mount master cylinder is going to be required at some point soon otherwise it could get dangerous losing your brakes out on a run! Just some helpful criticism, not knocking y'all. Awesome build otherwise guy's and congrats Charles! It's exciting and scary all at the same time having a kid! Wishing you all the very best guy's.
@m0azr1
@m0azr1 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. The habdle will lose pressure and wont hold up. Plus how can you refill it? 😂
@DktheWelder
@DktheWelder 2 жыл бұрын
I tried a brake master cylinder vertical like that on my buggy and i couldn’t get it to work , you are correct it has to be horizontal 👍
@georgewiley1055
@georgewiley1055 2 жыл бұрын
I've used a car door lock actuator for the shifter on my cart. That is if you have 12 v⚡ 's lock & unlock on 1 button on steering wheel. Just a thought. Great job guys.
@malachiudd317
@malachiudd317 2 жыл бұрын
From my experience, toe out tends to make it want to wander, because they are working against each other. Toe in I feel like is more for accurate steering and over-steer because when you steer that outside tire grabs and really pulls it around the corner. I might also recommend adjusting your camber for better grip and less stress on components around corners. You want the tires leaning in a little bit
@nicholaskennedy8173
@nicholaskennedy8173 2 жыл бұрын
Mount the clutch lever to the shifter handle. Jockey shift style
@SportbikerNZ
@SportbikerNZ 2 жыл бұрын
That's the worst way to mount it. A foot clutch is far superior. It keeps hands free to hold the wheel during launches and popping clutch mid-rip. It's bizarre people don't think about the basics.
@nicholaskennedy8173
@nicholaskennedy8173 2 жыл бұрын
@@SportbikerNZ it's bizarre that you think this is some crazy race car with big power that you'll need both hands to control. Calm down, baby girl..... You'll only need the clutch to start, downshift, and come to a stop anyhow.
@SportbikerNZ
@SportbikerNZ 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicholaskennedy8173 Imagine how awkward it is launching while squeezing a clutch on a shifter that want's to bobble around as you bounce over every bump. The lack of noggin use is comical.
@nicholaskennedy8173
@nicholaskennedy8173 2 жыл бұрын
@@SportbikerNZ imagine how insecure you must be to insult people in the comment section of a video..... People have been using jokey shift for years. It's an awesome and practical way to mount a clutch. Come back to the comment section when you've got practical experience and not just speculating.
@SportbikerNZ
@SportbikerNZ 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicholaskennedy8173 Farout. I know some people are allergic to even the mildest of constructive criticism, but this is rich. Poor quality of character is failing to admit being wrong. Telling. Think a couple of steps ahead next time. To do a simple clutch kick while bouncing all over the place you're forced to faff around. Reaching one hand to a clutch on a lever that's annoyingly doubling as a gear shift which you have to be careful you don't accidentally knock it up or down a gear as you jostle around while steering with one hand... vs the alternative of simply stabbing a clutch with your foot. Let alone the ease and practicality of launching with a foot clutch over hand. Every designer since forever has put the clutch on the floor and it's not hard to think why. Hand clutches - only recommended by inexperienced people thinking it's trendy.
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras 2 жыл бұрын
Ike predicted the future when he said the tail fins are dangerous... totally worth it though.
@seb2208
@seb2208 2 жыл бұрын
Hey
@davidjessee7701
@davidjessee7701 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact! Yard Darts were banned in 1988.. so how old was ike in 1988? So 33 years ago... so your probably not older than 33 I was a kid when yard darts came out and were banned.. im 55 years old... your not old so I call BS
@carbide1968
@carbide1968 2 жыл бұрын
Can you not use paddle shifters? Having to take your hands off the wheel is soooo 1980's
@filipniemkiewicz1026
@filipniemkiewicz1026 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Semi-Pro Go-kart racer here. On our karts we run toe out most of the time because it gives the kart a little bit more turn in, on the initial turn. We rarely ever run no toe, and never run toe in. We also run some negative camber due to the way the karts are designed. But generally more negative camber will give the rear of the car more grip in the middle of the corner. Not sure what Positive camber does since we never run it. For caster, we run with a bunch of positive camber. This get the inside rear wheel of the kart to lift easier. Its tuned this way because of solid rear axle., and it allows the kart to turn, and corner, because the kart would push very badly if the the rear stayed planted all the time. And sadly your original 360lb weight goal with rider is very optimistic lol, as we run 355 with rider on our karts with no suspension with a 125cc motor with no gears. Very cool build though!
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidjessee7701 Didn't someone get killed as it went through his skull or something? How did they not see that coming? They're like mortars with spikes on them when they come down. My dad said all toys were dangerous back then but people weren't so soft and they survived.
@sugashizane
@sugashizane 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats Charles!! I appreciate how you guys (John Ike Charles) included his registry, and allow us to "help a brotha out". Kids our the future let's raise them right.
@dirtbikemike2956
@dirtbikemike2956 8 ай бұрын
amen bro
@Todd_G_FPV
@Todd_G_FPV 2 жыл бұрын
The camber on those front wheels are driving me crazy! Lol
@brianpiper3188
@brianpiper3188 2 жыл бұрын
On the 16 Polaris Sportsman 570 I had, the front was toed out at full shock extension. Because of the steering geometry and McPherson strut setup, at full compression the wheels were parallel. Toe out causes the wheels to pull away, which is great for quick response. Toe in is great for going straight. Neither is really good on tire wear.
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 2 жыл бұрын
The negative camber actually bothered me more than the tow. I think you want the tire vertical (wheel still a bit positive) on hard cornering, but might be wrong. This may be less important with a rounded knobby, but still I expect you want maximum tire patch under those conditions. And as for the wear part, have you ever noticed front wheel drive is typically toed out, rear wheel drive front wheels towed in. I expect this is to accommodate the suspension bend under typical steady state drive loading, say for somewhere approaching sustained highway speeds.
@chrisv6008
@chrisv6008 2 жыл бұрын
You know you had a great childhood when you got the original lawn darts for Birthday or Christmas
@huave4
@huave4 2 жыл бұрын
I would flip those rear shocks also. The rod side should always be down. This way the rod seals stay lubricated internally. Also may give you more clearance. I also 2nd the statement of moving the clutch lever to hand operated.
@SportbikerNZ
@SportbikerNZ 2 жыл бұрын
Hand operated clutch levers are a distant (very distant) second to foot operated in anything not on two wheels.
@nicholaskennedy8173
@nicholaskennedy8173 2 жыл бұрын
Not totally true. Lots of shocks come rod side up from the factory. The internal pressure will always keep the seals lubed no matter the position. I'd still look out for debris settling on the top of the seal and destroying it.
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 2 жыл бұрын
@@SportbikerNZ Not sure why two wheels is the issue. I would think this application is much more suited to a hand clutch. Now if you had more than 180 degrees steering wheel rotation, where you had to change hand positions in a hard turn, I would definitely agree.
@SportbikerNZ
@SportbikerNZ 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrJdsenior Hand clutch on motorcycles works well because 1. It's not doubling as a gear shift, your foot does that. 2. Your handle bars have very limited range of movement so you maintain both hands on the controls while manipulating the clutch. Removing a hand from the wheel during launches while bumping around, or trying to do a clutch kick while bumping around, is poor with a hand clutch. A simple clutch kick means wrestling the wheel with one hand while using the other to manipulate the clutch while trying not to bump the shifter up and down a gear while you jostle around.
@aaronsimpson7182
@aaronsimpson7182 2 жыл бұрын
The reason it didn’t go into gear is that the gears in the trans didn’t line up. When you have the motor running it allows the gears to mesh together, which is why you were then able to put it into 2nd
@billbry
@billbry 2 жыл бұрын
manually rotating the crank or countershaft sprocket will allow gear selection.
@aaronsimpson7182
@aaronsimpson7182 2 жыл бұрын
@@billbry Yes rocking the go kart or rotating the output shaft will do the trick too
@Boostedlifestyle
@Boostedlifestyle 2 жыл бұрын
Dang That thing is going to be cool
@dbchevy
@dbchevy 2 жыл бұрын
Your Drag Mower came out dope af too man props!
@Grimm-Gaming
@Grimm-Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you here Kyle! You closet America-nadian
@craigpearson9063
@craigpearson9063 2 жыл бұрын
Hurry up and get yours done
@reddog543211
@reddog543211 2 жыл бұрын
Great job guys.....Charles is a outstanding asset to C & C !!!!... treat him right !!
@eddyd.105
@eddyd.105 2 жыл бұрын
Toe in is good for straight line speed and stability but will increase understeer toe out is good for turn in speed at a cost of straight line stability.
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and toe out does that the same way a modern fighter jet achieves quick direction changes, by being more unstable, to whatever degree you choose. Their choice is an aircraft that literally breaks up in the air at high speed with loss of electronic control intervention, as happened once in an air show with an F117. Also happened with a prototype aircraft in competition that my company, at the time, was providing one of the system's sensor systems (FLIR). The air frame lost, but the sensor got moved to the winning aircraft, even though that was contrary to the competition win format, as it was hands down a vastly superior system. My father was systems manager on a missile interceptor called SPRINT (same company, different name) way back. They actually designed that missile to be unstable at launch to allow VERY quick pitchover just out of the gas assisted launch tube. It became stable right after that due to propellant burnoff in the first stage. Everything was designed to get on target as quickly as possible as they had only seconds to intercept a nuclear warhead coming in at about mach 10+. Look it up on YT if you are interested, and yes, first stage is about a second and a half burn so those are either real time or SLOWED down videos. Zero to mach 10 in about five seconds, burned incandescent white in the atmosphere just seconds into flight. Some serious tech for the 60s, and nothing out there remotely like it today, as far as I know. But since I am no longer in the industry, I could be wrong there. Lots of very knowledgeable people in this comment section...cool to see in a YT, and rare. Wow, that too got off topic. Sorry.
@aydanangus
@aydanangus 2 жыл бұрын
I would suggest putting the clutch on a bike lever that on the shifter
@Grimm-Gaming
@Grimm-Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely the logical choice. Alot of Motorcycle swapped cars already do that.
@Cee64E
@Cee64E 2 жыл бұрын
I concur. I'd make the shifter a little shorter, too, for shorter throw.
@gmfb33024
@gmfb33024 2 жыл бұрын
Bem watching u guys for years u have really inspired me to start building my own things about to get a welder
@digiprez77
@digiprez77 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I got one and built a two seater cart for my son and I... The welding was way easier than I thought it would be. My best advice is to get a decent metal cutting saw. That was really the hard part because I only had shoddy stuff to do it with.
@larrydavidson3402
@larrydavidson3402 2 жыл бұрын
Coming along very nicely, Love the tail fins and Charles is doing very well at his fabricating, he has been a great addition to this channel.
@kendradugas1572
@kendradugas1572 2 жыл бұрын
since your running a trailing arm setup and the trailing arms are cross braced, why the panhard bar? the bar is going to load up when the suspension cycles. anyway keep it up, great channel.
@sheldonhall4572
@sheldonhall4572 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like something to consider in future builds is a way to make the seat position adjustable for different size riders. You could probably cut some pieces of square bar drill out your adjustable holes and mount it to the gokart then make another bracket that has a single hole on 2 tabs that fit on either side of the square bar to a seat bracket. Mount the seat to the bracket and it makes the seat slide on the rail. You can use cotter pins to fix the seat to any mounting hole position. One awesome build so far. Its been awesome having Charles around helping advance your fabrication and build designs. You all make an awesome team.
@Tannerlsx
@Tannerlsx 2 жыл бұрын
You guys should look into the line level lasers. I use them at work all the time for plumbing. They’d make your alignments a breeze.
@Americaslostcars
@Americaslostcars 2 жыл бұрын
Buy/build a new welding table. Then you could use it as a frame jig/go-cart lift
@anthonypiligno7618
@anthonypiligno7618 2 жыл бұрын
Charles you're an awesome addition to cars and cameras love all you guys keep up the good biking.....JJ...
@danielbates4137
@danielbates4137 2 жыл бұрын
Charles is a great addition to the channel. He could be ikes little brother lol. Great job crew yall are doing great. Congratulations Charles on fatherhood
@jerryfassett2201
@jerryfassett2201 2 жыл бұрын
Why not attach tubing the shifter with a clutch handle mounted to it, hand shifter and clutch in one.
@HootiusMaximus
@HootiusMaximus 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same, would be pretty easy to set the pedals up too.
@tkskagen
@tkskagen 2 жыл бұрын
Fuel Tank "Shelf" needs some Diagonal Bracing from the Seat Uprights. That Panhard Bar will rip/tear the Welds without... Looks AWESOME guys!
@RTDragonCommando
@RTDragonCommando 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a panhard rod is still going to be pretty hard on the bearings at the front, especially with the length of your trailing links. It's a bit more complex, but perhaps you should look into a Watts-link setup? It keeps the rear end perfectly centered through the full travel of the suspension, which will be much nicer on the pivot bearings.
@tinoanderson3912
@tinoanderson3912 2 жыл бұрын
Watts is the way to go
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 2 жыл бұрын
I said this in another comment before reading this, and agree. I think they might have to turn the rotating portion sideways, though, on that application, for ground clearance. I don't know that for sure, as I don't know all the suspension parameters, but it was a thought. My RX7 had a watts link in the rear is one of the reasons I am familiar. Always struck me as a better solution, geometrically, than the panhard. Of course, it is a good bit more complex to implement, from scratch.
@tinoanderson3912
@tinoanderson3912 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrJdsenior true the only reason I suggest it is because I had it on my bagged truck and no matter what you did you weren't moving that axle
@adambriscoe02
@adambriscoe02 Жыл бұрын
Guys, the raw design and development is fantastic and you're a treasure for building, testing and improving
@52JMD
@52JMD 2 жыл бұрын
You guys inspire me so much! This build is very cool, if nobody has mentioned it yet the best backyard toe set for anything (25 years alignment specialist) is to jack the tire up and use a marker that you can see and use a block to set the marker on and rotate the tire slowly to make a center mark around the tire (you might need to wrap a couple layers of wide tape around the center, over the lugs). The seam will not be straight on the tread, don't use. Now 2 thin boards or dowels or angle metal, put a pointer on each end, screw threw, nail, etc. Now do your forward and back roll and clamp together the boards with a pointer on each rear line at the axle height, then move to the front at axle height and compare. Zero toe will be on the line, for toe in adjust until lines are inside the pointers to the amount you want, toe out is just the opposite. Do them equally and your steering wheel will be centered also. Thanks to all the ideas I have seen from you I just finished our seventh project; front engine, jackshaft, tractor seat, handlebars, rear exhaust and an early 30's facsimile grill and hood top over the stage one 212. My grandkids think you guys' rock too!! They get to rip them all too!
@arlenstutzman9525
@arlenstutzman9525 2 жыл бұрын
Cars and cameras is so much better with Charles definitely upgraded the show
@briancrum1524
@briancrum1524 2 жыл бұрын
Holy cow I didn't realize how early to this video I am. Great content👍🏻
@1998dodgeram318
@1998dodgeram318 2 жыл бұрын
Move lower spring mounts closer to trailing arm pivot for softer ride. This also will give more suspension travel. Toe, - or + is for component stretch from wheel load. Breaking, + toe needed. Driving, - toe needed. Niether load, 0 toe for best handling, rolling resistance and tire wear. Negetive camber gives wider stance for cornering but at the expence of uneven tire wear. Posative camber has same effect on tire contact patch and can help the inside wheel on cornering but also at the expence of uneven tire wear. Caster is the effect of upper & lower spindle mounts in relation to the center of the spindle. Really enjoy watching what you guys do!
@pookysdad4884
@pookysdad4884 2 жыл бұрын
17:55 "Might be ok" does not sound as confident as "It'll Be Fine". 😂
@460Tang
@460Tang 2 жыл бұрын
From what I see in the front view at timestamp 26:01, if you can add spacers to the end of your tie rods to make them parallel to the control arms, you should be able to reduce or eliminate bump steer depending on the rest of the steering and suspension geometry.
@ancientfilm
@ancientfilm 2 жыл бұрын
It's so good to see Ike back! Love ya, buddy!!
@robertosborne5987
@robertosborne5987 2 жыл бұрын
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@joshvandruff1790
@joshvandruff1790 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome build y’all! Can’t wait to see this rip!
@demiproductions9902
@demiproductions9902 2 жыл бұрын
Would be pretty cool if it had a roll cage and it was white, still it's a great successor for the cross kart!
@njrmodelling
@njrmodelling 2 жыл бұрын
Clutch and brake on the left foot?? that will be interesting when trying to stop in a panic
@chopshopminibikes170
@chopshopminibikes170 2 жыл бұрын
Love this build cant wait to see it finished guys 👍
@gmfb33024
@gmfb33024 2 жыл бұрын
Idk what ide do without u guys man u made me wanma buy thing and fix them
@jakeds84
@jakeds84 2 жыл бұрын
Love the channel I'm so proud of you guys for crossing 1 MILLION subscribers! I've been a fan since day 12 of C&C keep up the awesome work, And great videos!
@devivoman
@devivoman 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome name, love it! Little doubt that it will own the track time for quite some time! Can't wait to see that Tillotson yard cart too!
@bashr52
@bashr52 2 жыл бұрын
This thing should be a blast! I still want to see the 100hp 2 stroke cart take a rip as well.
@oakwaterjimmy
@oakwaterjimmy 2 жыл бұрын
I 2nd that a home made go-cart lift would be good project
@cliftonlong6735
@cliftonlong6735 2 жыл бұрын
Twist grip on the shifter makes a good clutch!! SAVE ROOM!!!!!!!!!!
@anthonypiligno7618
@anthonypiligno7618 2 жыл бұрын
That is a good idea....JJ...
@steventaylor5260
@steventaylor5260 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching you guys off and on for years, and I really can't tell if your getting any better at building or not, but it's interesting.
@jimmylarge1148
@jimmylarge1148 2 жыл бұрын
I been watching your thumbnail on and off for 10 seconds now and I can’t tell if your getting better at paint schemes or not but it’s ugly and not very interesting.
@steventaylor5260
@steventaylor5260 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmylarge1148 I can't say much about there painting, I'v never seen them paint
@WyFoster
@WyFoster 2 жыл бұрын
I need to get you guys a digital level for Christmas 😂
@jonbaggarly6969
@jonbaggarly6969 2 жыл бұрын
Hurry up guys I'm excited to see that dart fly
@josteincarlsen2905
@josteincarlsen2905 2 жыл бұрын
Love the build!! But you need a 37-40 rear sprocket ⚙️ your is way to small for that engine and those rear tires. I had 22” tiers and a 12 front sprocket and a 37 rear sprocket. Little bit to high for a 140. Probably perfect for your engine.
@bryanteel3046
@bryanteel3046 2 жыл бұрын
They did the gearing from the engine to the jackshaft from the jackshaft to the rear end it's 1:1 so a small gear coming from the transmission shaft to a larger gear on the jackshaft and then 1:1 from the Jack shaft to the rear end
@billjohnston5495
@billjohnston5495 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see it ripping definitely a awesome build 👏
@layneausmus7962
@layneausmus7962 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I had this machine lol I’m in need of help with a mower trying to put a chain drive and a motor in it i lol like y’all did with y’all’s but can’t figure it out y’all have amazing skill with this stuff I’m 13 so have to do it my self lol
@Lukeschroeder42
@Lukeschroeder42 2 жыл бұрын
Hehe layne
@jordanshallenberger3163
@jordanshallenberger3163 2 жыл бұрын
Great video so far!!!!
@RCDisiac
@RCDisiac 2 жыл бұрын
Think of the rear swing arm as leverage so the more swing arm behind the lower mounts the softer the shocks will be then adjust the top to get ur damper just right
@JohnHill-jm7tm
@JohnHill-jm7tm 2 жыл бұрын
This Old Man watched the video yesterday and didn't have time to complete. Like all your videos I love them. Going to one fast cart. Looking forward to seeing y'all having fun with it. 🛵🧔💝💝💝
@james.d.8044
@james.d.8044 2 жыл бұрын
My cbr clutch does the exact same thing sometimes I can't cycle gears without starting it up first ,I think it helps when the clutch plates start moving and the gear teeth line up
@gavincline209
@gavincline209 2 жыл бұрын
alot of motorcycles are like that also with the gear selection. when not running it will only do 1st or neautral, engine has to be turning to get the dog bones to engage the next gear, there syncronized transmissions. also, stand the shock straight up and put the lower end closer to the seat for better springage. it would kinda follow the tube of the seat bucket down at that angle.
@seansysig
@seansysig 2 жыл бұрын
Guys you crack me up. Charles congrats.
@justinkohn2616
@justinkohn2616 2 жыл бұрын
There are three things to keep in mind when it comes to suspension. Bound, rebound, and ride height. In this application, adjusting ride height also preloads the rear spring resulting in a softer ride. The bottom collars should adjust the amount of preload on the shocks.
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 2 жыл бұрын
Or harder, depending on which direction you adjust it.
@glenncrockett4451
@glenncrockett4451 2 жыл бұрын
Building a few shifter cart things when I was younger I would mount a Motorcycle clutch lever on the shifter handle which worked good. Had a cart with a CB360 engine and used the handle bars with all the controls for a steering wheel, had the throttle, tach and clutch on it, the gas pedal became the brake and the brake pedal became the shifter, it was a blast to ride but the front end seemed to get lighter the faster you went which was a little scary at 60mph lol.
@BPayne
@BPayne 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that moving the lower rear shock mounts away from the axle/towards the front of the cart and moving the upper shock mount higher/rearward will give you more travel and make the rear suspension softer.
@angelojohntoledo1680
@angelojohntoledo1680 2 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing build!!!! Im a fan from PH🇵🇭
@MrVein5.0
@MrVein5.0 2 жыл бұрын
love this build its really cool, cant wait to see it rip. but, and i dont like to be picky, but having a panhard on a rigid rear like that is not how its supposed to be, it may work, depending on how flexible the rear carriage is, but it will cause stress in ways that arent good. to try and see if this is the case, you can remove the shocks and test moving it up and down, if it moves freely without a problem then its fine. but chances are it might be a problem.
@mixonmachines
@mixonmachines 2 жыл бұрын
Lovin this build !!!
@dylanplank1841
@dylanplank1841 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel!!!
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv 2 жыл бұрын
This crazy little x-cart is going to beak the internet! Let's go!
@72mardy
@72mardy 2 жыл бұрын
Pfft, no it's not
@bobmanzi7712
@bobmanzi7712 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff guys
@Thewatson77
@Thewatson77 2 жыл бұрын
I’m actually really diggin this build 👍🏼
@tngtacticalmiata1219
@tngtacticalmiata1219 2 жыл бұрын
Charles is perfect, guys!
@just-in-time6069
@just-in-time6069 2 жыл бұрын
Just thought u ever think of hanging the pedal from top of a bar maybe not this one but other seen u do and u need to invest in some thiner wall tube for when u need less structure area help save weight and probably save some money.keep up great work and everyone have wonderful day
@alandoesstuff.1254
@alandoesstuff.1254 2 жыл бұрын
I always go for near zero toe. Which usually means dialing a slight of static toe in. I do this because the resistance of the wheels and such tend to take the slack in bushing, bearing and such out leaving the car straight up when moving straight. After that you play with a tiny bit of in or out to assist in turn in. It does have an impact on the ackerman, out tends to increase, in tends to decrease.
@johnstaley2573
@johnstaley2573 2 жыл бұрын
Since the transmission is sequential shouldn't the clutch only be needed to start from a dead stop? Once in motion you should be able to shift merely by letting up on the throttle.
@boardnoone0734
@boardnoone0734 2 жыл бұрын
No since its not actually sequential but they made it look like it but with a clutch like on a bike but took the shifter and made it to a stick
@redoak614
@redoak614 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think either of you understand transmissions
@comethiburs2326
@comethiburs2326 2 жыл бұрын
because these chinese gear selectors *-hate-* clutchless shifting. i messed one of my 1n234 135fma engines doing that. bike was already a pain to get in neutral, now that engine would just try to drop in second when idling. with a very scary rattle to boot. i guess it would've eventually been able to do so if i didnt blow the head gasket and put it on a shelf.
@mitchlec8916
@mitchlec8916 2 жыл бұрын
A sequential transmission is the motion of just going up or down to change gears. You still need to depress the clutch to change gears like a regular manual transmission.
@geeksgamesandgears2369
@geeksgamesandgears2369 2 жыл бұрын
The zs190 is notorious for transmission issues. Clutchless shifts are know for causing it to fail/lockup. If it was a different platform you’d be right though.
@craigjones2015
@craigjones2015 2 жыл бұрын
Chamber link would do good. You have serious toe out at the top of the tire
@stevecox2530
@stevecox2530 2 жыл бұрын
You need to brace the rack down to the base of the seat, especially as you have used it to mount one end of the Panhard bar. Also, I'm not sure that front brake master cylinder will work in the upright position - you'll need to rethink that when you reposition to the proper side. Apart from that, it's great :-)
@caseymoore9737
@caseymoore9737 2 жыл бұрын
i am building something similar to this and weight has been my biggest concern. i had it welded up in the front with single A arms, like yours. i was having trouble finding measurements online and looked over at my R/C truck. it uses a single A arm with a tie rod above where you would normally put the upper A arm to keep the front tires aligned. Definitely saves weight but you get the same outcome as if you had upper A arms
@lawrencetaylor5481
@lawrencetaylor5481 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@billbong156
@billbong156 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how you was gonna use clutch and brake. Good call Ike. Love the build guys!
@RearEngineShop
@RearEngineShop 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, this thing is going to be awesome!!! Let’s go boys!
@jasonlawrence6209
@jasonlawrence6209 2 жыл бұрын
I made one of these yard carts when I was around 15. I ended up using handlebar steering so I could use hand clutch and thumb throttle? Made it way easier in the end
@ParrishCubed
@ParrishCubed 2 жыл бұрын
“I hit trees” is perfect mercy material
@ronnyfurst5511
@ronnyfurst5511 2 жыл бұрын
hey guys you are all cool! See your vids is like havin a good time with old friends... thats, how should i say.... thats really cool because not any youtube channel can bring this feeling to the fans. dudes you made my day
@EJ-74
@EJ-74 2 жыл бұрын
Cool build guys 👍✌️
@rickyrodriguez1788
@rickyrodriguez1788 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that's a bad ass Go Cart!! 👍👍❤❤ you guys really did an amazing build !😎❤❤👍👍👍
@wayne1959
@wayne1959 2 жыл бұрын
nice work guys. She is nearly ready to dart around the yard.
@ik04
@ik04 2 жыл бұрын
A Panhard bar will bind up your rigid rear suspension. What you need is a Watts link.
@surfrostgaming1193
@surfrostgaming1193 2 жыл бұрын
To use the E start on most Chinese atv/ mx the brakes need to be applied. In your case check to see if the mastercylinder is equipped with a brake switch
@ksan351
@ksan351 2 жыл бұрын
John, find some RC car related tuning adjustments they should be pretty informative and easy to understand. Things like camber, caster, toe and kick angle should really help the handling of anything you build. 👍🏻
@MasonAK.1
@MasonAK.1 2 жыл бұрын
True. They could actually get a fancy R/C car or truck that has the ability to align it and they could practice different alignment setups on that just to make it easier when working on karts
@docink6175
@docink6175 2 жыл бұрын
on the dirt stock roundy rounder we set the toe to zero then toed the left about 10° with a negative camber and the right with a positive camber but we also ran different size tires on each side. More or less stock 14" on the left and a 15" with a 20"wide hoosier on the front right, the rears were also different size hoosier ballons.. it went left EASY
@texaschevys1229
@texaschevys1229 2 жыл бұрын
For your brake .. when I had a Murray go-kart I cut a 3 wheeler handle bar in half and welded it on the steering hoop so I just mounted the handle to that and used my hand instead of my foot
@200mmonster4
@200mmonster4 2 жыл бұрын
I feel this is going to be way under powered . But certainly a cool build
@daperturedan3454
@daperturedan3454 2 жыл бұрын
Toe in increases understeer but adds stability, toe out increases turn in and is less stable in a front line, zero toe is actually still pretty aggressive for a street application but is still a good middle for perfomance applications. Negative camber drastically increases cornering grip but slightly reduces straight line braking grip. On an off road application, a few degrees of front negative Camber is ideal
@coxandsonmachine2128
@coxandsonmachine2128 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet build
@jerryzapletal5796
@jerryzapletal5796 2 жыл бұрын
Sure like to see some more of that yard dirt go kart I know you guys are busy
@chumblago
@chumblago 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy legs from soccer says you’re doing great and your channel is phenomenal!
@kennethdispain1807
@kennethdispain1807 2 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah brother yard dart is perfect my friend
@rocckstar187
@rocckstar187 2 жыл бұрын
If yall dont come out with a "i hit trees" shirt or sticker or somethin ima be sad 🤣😂 thats pure gold!! Charles is my spirit animal love that dude sucha good addition to the team!!🤣😂🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ And congrats on the baby man!!! Just had a chance to catch up on the last three vids!!! Better see some burnouts in the c10 to celebrate the birth!!! I just had to sell my bagged 66c10 to fund my new project
@mcjok88
@mcjok88 2 жыл бұрын
Good God....Charles is the perfect addition to the entertainment.
@H3110NU
@H3110NU 2 жыл бұрын
Only setup Knowledge I have is from running RC cars over the years And lately it’s been for RC dirt oval so that’s a bit different only turning left
@Country.southside
@Country.southside 2 жыл бұрын
I like the daily uploads keep it up
@MannequinSmiles
@MannequinSmiles 2 жыл бұрын
i had a weird fever dream last night where jon and isaac left me and charles to finish a build
@ryanbollerud8792
@ryanbollerud8792 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, the ornaments are sold out already ugh I wanted to scoop one. Great Video y'all
@MrForeman550
@MrForeman550 2 жыл бұрын
I put my clutch handle on my shift lever works great without issues
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